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| 01:01.39 | thebigdog | ~smack beandog |
| 01:01.40 | ibot | ACTION smacks beandog upside the head. |
| 01:28.49 | influx | ~smack thebigdog |
| 01:28.50 | ibot | ACTION smacks thebigdog upside the head. |
| 01:34.07 | Lone_Wanderer | It's Friday night |
| 01:34.11 | Lone_Wanderer | ~rlart |
| 01:34.12 | ibot | shoots utahcon in the head |
| 01:34.16 | Lone_Wanderer | All hands are in the air. |
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| 01:45.22 | unum | shouldn't all you guys be with your wives |
| 01:45.32 | Lone_Wanderer | I have no wife, as you can see from my name. |
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| 05:35.31 | influx | oi |
| 05:37.41 | influx | so, I'm told I can't completely separate php from html if I'm doing a blag since I'm going to be pulling content from a db |
| 05:37.46 | influx | that true? |
| 05:41.29 | herlo | oh hai! |
| 05:41.47 | herlo | what's a blag? |
| 05:43.49 | influx | blüg |
| 05:43.49 | influx | It's a blagoyevich |
| 05:43.49 | influx | slang for blog |
| 05:57.30 | herlo | oh |
| 05:58.07 | herlo | as far as I know, you can mostly separate the logic from the content with a framework like cakephp or codeignitre |
| 06:00.05 | influx | Hmm. |
| 06:00.26 | influx | were I to use one, would I end up just throwing {logic} here and there? |
| 06:00.38 | influx | Instead of having to type out code or something. |
| 06:00.58 | influx | I tried using cakephp a while ago, but it was too much for me. |
| 06:02.33 | influx | Well, I won't unnecessarily worry about it or now. |
| 06:04.59 | influx | for now* |
| 06:05.38 | influx | have you used subversion or any other version control system before? |
| 06:07.21 | Lone_Wanderer | influx: You can use a templating system that does a fairly decent job. |
| 06:07.44 | Lone_Wanderer | But honestly, as long as your content is dynamic, you're always going to have some conflation of code and html |
| 06:07.55 | influx | Aye. |
| 06:18.16 | herlo | influx: have used subversion and git and mercurial and cvs and ... |
| 06:20.05 | Lone_Wanderer | WAIT! |
| 06:20.09 | Lone_Wanderer | They don't love you like I love you |
| 06:23.34 | influx | MaaAAAaaps |
| 06:24.10 | influx | herlo: Would it make much sense to use a VCS if I'm the only one developing something? |
| 06:24.13 | Lone_Wanderer | okay |
| 06:24.15 | Lone_Wanderer | night all |
| 06:24.40 | Lone_Wanderer | ...oh man I love this song |
| 06:26.19 | influx | Go. Sleep. |
| 06:26.55 | Lone_Wanderer | dangit |
| 06:27.01 | Lone_Wanderer | I can't find a web site that will let me just play music |
| 06:28.30 | Lone_Wanderer | Oh well. |
| 06:28.34 | Lone_Wanderer | Look up Try Not to Breathe by REM |
| 06:47.53 | herlo | influx: yes, it would |
| 06:48.30 | herlo | influx: if nothing else, if you make changes that you didn't want and committed them, you can roll back |
| 06:48.41 | herlo | without a vcs, not sure how you would do that |
| 06:52.37 | influx | Hmm. |
| 06:52.41 | influx | In that case... |
| 06:52.58 | influx | which vcs should I go with? |
| 06:54.02 | herlo | git is my fav |
| 06:54.34 | herlo | it's pretty easy to learn, but it has a paradigm that's different from centralized vcs's |
| 06:54.51 | herlo | in fact, git is a different paradigm on its own |
| 06:55.33 | influx | Hmm. |
| 06:55.52 | influx | Don't know enough to know the differences. |
| 07:03.05 | herlo | well, try out a few and see which you like |
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