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| 00:21.10 | mindjuju | ~apb dexterthedragon |
| 00:21.11 | ibot | ACTION summons Duane Lee to rough up dexterthedragon |
| 00:21.22 | DexterTheDragon | sup mindjuju |
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| 00:33.33 | beandog | o haiz |
| 00:36.28 | mindjuju | ~poke beandog in the eye |
| 00:36.29 | ibot | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind beandog in the eye, pokes beandog in the eye repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
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| 00:36.40 | beandog | mindjuju: whot |
| 00:37.01 | mindjuju | sup bro |
| 00:37.08 | beandog | I need something to do |
| 00:37.33 | mindjuju | you could go get me a whopper |
| 00:37.36 | beandog | ok |
| 00:37.40 | beandog | where you at |
| 00:37.44 | mindjuju | work |
| 00:37.49 | mindjuju | you could watch voltron |
| 00:38.12 | mindjuju | i saw the first 5 episodes from the first season and then the absolute last one from the second |
| 00:38.25 | mindjuju | that's like watching the whole thing in 6 espisodes! |
| 00:38.27 | mindjuju | woot! |
| 00:38.39 | beandog | how long you gonna be there |
| 00:38.50 | mindjuju | prolly another hour |
| 00:38.54 | beandog | oh ok |
| 00:39.01 | beandog | I gotta bring my xbox sometime |
| 00:39.01 | mindjuju | i'm tryhing to get used to this thing where you install without a gui |
| 00:39.05 | mindjuju | doing all that |
| 00:39.11 | mindjuju | wget http://www.example.com |
| 00:39.12 | beandog | mindjuju: try gentoo :) |
| 00:39.14 | mindjuju | bidness |
| 00:39.25 | mindjuju | is it easier? |
| 00:39.26 | beandog | that'll teach ya real fast |
| 00:39.33 | beandog | mindjuju: quite the opposite |
| 00:39.43 | beandog | but you learn all the raw tools taht everything else uses |
| 00:39.58 | beandog | alright |
| 00:40.01 | beandog | I think Im gonna go skating |
| 00:41.12 | mindjuju | cya |
| 00:43.01 | beandog | lates |
| 00:43.10 | beandog | have fun with voltron :) |
| 00:43.12 | mindjuju | cya |
| 00:43.21 | mindjuju | nah, i'm coding to ravetrax |
| 00:43.25 | mindjuju | cya! |
| 01:06.29 | mindjuju | so if i'm in a directory that has a folder called locked, to change the owner/group i type |
| 01:06.29 | mindjuju | locked$ sudo chown newuser newgroup |
| 01:06.31 | mindjuju | is that right? |
| 01:08.02 | DexterTheDragon | go up a directory |
| 01:08.14 | DexterTheDragon | then do sudo chown newuser newgroup locked |
| 01:10.32 | mindjuju | awesome, thx |
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| 04:23.10 | justincarmony_ | ~karma ie |
| 04:23.10 | ibot | ie has karma of -665 |
| 04:23.14 | justincarmony_ | ~ie-- |
| 04:23.20 | justincarmony_ | :) |
| 04:23.26 | justincarmony_ | ~karma ie |
| 04:23.26 | ibot | ie has karma of -666 |
| 04:29.25 | brasto | ~ymmv |
| 04:29.26 | ibot | methinks ymmv is Your Mileage May Vary |
| 05:01.50 | beandog | that was fun |
| 05:01.52 | beandog | :) |
| 05:03.39 | justincarmony_ | what did you do |
| 05:04.21 | beandog | skating @ liberty for a loong time |
| 05:04.28 | beandog | oh, sore is me. |
| 05:05.29 | beandog | time for dinner and some star trek (voyager) |
| 05:07.13 | beandog | wow, no way |
| 05:07.17 | beandog | http://www.amazon.com/Risk-Star-Wars-Original-Trilogy/dp/B000M8IE58/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&s=toys-and-games&qid=1246943203&sr=8-10 |
| 05:07.37 | beandog | only $79.99, whee! |
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| 12:48.07 | jsmith | Ugh... another IE 0-day exploit making the rounds |
| 12:48.14 | jsmith | ~ie-- |
| 12:48.22 | jsmith | ~karma ie |
| 12:48.22 | ibot | ie has karma of -667 |
| 13:39.30 | carmony | ~ie++ |
| 13:39.34 | carmony | ~karma ie |
| 13:39.34 | ibot | ie has karma of -666 |
| 13:39.58 | jsmith | carmony: Sorry for messing that up, and making you give ie positive karma |
| 13:40.16 | jsmith | carmony: But I just couldn't bring myself to do it |
| 13:43.32 | carmony | LOL, its okay, every now and then I have to deal with the devil of Microsoft :P |
| 13:43.49 | jsmith | Luckily, I *rarely* have to :-) |
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| 14:19.00 | herlo | morning |
| 14:22.08 | draco2002 | morning |
| 14:23.21 | carmony | morning herlo, draco2002 |
| 14:28.47 | carmony | LOL, what are the odds: |
| 14:28.48 | carmony | http://screencast.com/t/3XskNty5kp6 |
| 14:32.01 | jsmith | carmony: What are the odds that we know somebody's birthday now?!? |
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| 14:33.15 | carmony | LOL, its a demo account's Birthday :P |
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| 14:39.48 | carmony | GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA I did it again! |
| 14:40.04 | carmony | There are two files.... _upload_photos.php and _photos.php |
| 14:40.12 | carmony | they look almost identical |
| 14:40.46 | carmony | but I'm supose to be editing _photos.php and I keep updating _upload_photos.php |
| 14:47.16 | utahcon | ~Probably the coolest and most annoying interface of the day: http://tools.mozilla.com/ |
| 14:49.32 | carmony | agreed Utah_Dave |
| 14:49.35 | carmony | er, utahcon |
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| 14:56.21 | beandog | ~hola |
| 14:56.40 | beandog | It feels like a great day to break things |
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| 15:00.18 | Utah_Dave | Yesterday I got back to my computer and saw that I had a notification that my nick had been said here in #UPHPU |
| 15:00.29 | Utah_Dave | apparently stderr thinks I'm cute |
| 15:00.38 | Utah_Dave | or was it mindjuju? I don't remember |
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| 15:11.27 | beandog | wasn't me |
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| 15:59.38 | herlo | morning carmony |
| 16:09.52 | SunSparc | ~karma ie |
| 16:09.52 | ibot | ie has karma of -666 |
| 16:09.55 | SunSparc | :) |
| 16:13.32 | SunSparc | Good morning everyone!! |
| 16:19.51 | stderr | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtzJhTfQiMA |
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| 16:29.21 | mgeary | ~yow |
| 16:37.13 | fungus | wow, a female, with that kind of outspoken ignorance. I expect that out of old crusty white men, but... that is really sad. |
| 16:48.25 | stderr | well the fantastic part is that it is in some argument about uranium mining. |
| 16:48.44 | stderr | one of those few radioactive elements with a long enough half-life to, y'know, determine the age of the earth...... |
| 16:48.50 | unum | I thought it was about yuka mountain |
| 16:49.09 | unum | she's saying bring the uranium here so we can get the money for storing it |
| 16:49.39 | stderr | no, she's saying open up Arizona for uranium mining because it can be made safe |
| 16:50.20 | stderr | (and it's 'Yucca') |
| 17:17.53 | carmony | yuck, over the last 3 months a table with 40 million rows now has 300 million.... |
| 17:18.21 | jsmith | carmony: Now you're going to tell us that it's a MySQL table |
| 17:18.26 | carmony | LOL, yup |
| 17:18.33 | jsmith | carmony: and that it's taking six days to run myisamchk on it |
| 17:18.42 | carmony | LOL, yup :P |
| 17:18.57 | carmony | well, its actually a InnoDB table |
| 17:19.02 | jsmith | Now you've got my spidey senses going nuts :-) |
| 17:19.16 | carmony | lol |
| 17:19.32 | carmony | Well, the GOOD thing is the data in the table is actually not THAT mission critical |
| 17:20.02 | carmony | So we're going to shard it, and we're going to implement a lot of pruning functionality |
| 17:20.06 | carmony | to keep that table low |
| 17:20.19 | carmony | because all it is is two ints and a float |
| 17:51.14 | mgeary | jsmith: what is it about postgres that makes managing a table like that easier? |
| 18:05.31 | fungus | For those that use MySQL and InnoDB, do you use inoodb_file_per_table? Why or why not? |
| 18:39.54 | jsmith | mgeary: One: It's scales much better... I found that MySQL tables larger than about 100 million rows get very unwieldy... a lot of that has to do with locking |
| 18:40.31 | jsmith | mgeary: (MVCC vs. whatever MySQL's table locking) |
| 18:41.01 | josephscott | innodb uses MVCC essentailly |
| 18:41.05 | josephscott | essentially |
| 18:41.20 | mgeary | what's mvcc? |
| 18:41.47 | fungus | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiversion_concurrency_control |
| 18:42.01 | jsmith | josephscott: It does? Wow... shows how far out of the loop I am then :-) |
| 18:42.31 | mgeary | interesting |
| 18:42.36 | josephscott | jsmith: http://wiki.oracle.com/page/InnoDB |
| 18:42.48 | josephscott | mgeary: it's better locking than locking :-) |
| 18:42.49 | jsmith | josephscott: Reading now |
| 18:42.59 | stderr | O <- loop (-_-) <- jsmith |
| 18:43.22 | jsmith | Admittedly, most of my experience was with MyISAM tables, as InnoDB tables were much too slow for our application |
| 18:43.24 | josephscott | hehe, out of the loop :-) |
| 18:44.21 | josephscott | when you don't have to worry about row locks, foreign keys, etc. you can make things go really fast |
| 18:45.11 | jsmith | Interesting... http://bytes.com/groups/postgresql/423653-pgsql-mvcc-vs-mysql-innodb |
| 18:48.05 | josephscott | yep, like any reasonably complex system that plenty of issues that are helpful to be aware of |
| 18:49.07 | josephscott | s/that/there are/ |
| 18:52.48 | jsmith | Well, you learn something new every day |
| 18:52.58 | jsmith | Now I can't complain (as much) about InnoDB tables, now can I |
| 18:53.32 | josephscott | there's still plenty complain about in certain cases ;-) |
| 18:54.19 | josephscott | on wordpress.com we have cases where we more or less have to use MyISAM because of specific things that InnoDB does |
| 18:59.06 | SunSparc | I have a site that is using curl to fetch an rss feed. The site works on the dev machine, but the live server does not seem able to execute curl. |
| 18:59.27 | freedumMan | is curl installed with php |
| 18:59.34 | SunSparc | I turned off open_basedir and that helped a bit, but it is still having problems executing. |
| 18:59.43 | SunSparc | Yes, curl is listed on the phpinfo page |
| 18:59.48 | freedumMan | or are u using curl through shell_exec |
| 19:00.09 | freedumMan | Explain still having problems |
| 19:00.30 | SunSparc | freedumMan: Hmm, it is obfuscated, let me find out how it is actually being called.. |
| 19:01.28 | SunSparc | Appears to be using the exec command to run |
| 19:01.39 | freedumMan | why |
| 19:01.58 | SunSparc | It is a third party script. Good question. |
| 19:02.16 | freedumMan | http://davidwalsh.name/download-urls-content-php-curl |
| 19:02.35 | freedumMan | dont use shell exec commands when curl is installed just use php's curl ! |
| 19:02.39 | SunSparc | We were trying to figure out what server config might be different to make it work on one machine and not the other. We are trying to stay away from rewriting the script. |
| 19:02.53 | SunSparc | Makes sense to me. :) |
| 19:03.00 | freedumMan | The script can't be that difficult to change |
| 19:03.31 | freedumMan | your better off to not screw with shell_exec stuff and just plain do it right |
| 19:05.26 | SunSparc | Yeah, I think you are correct. May as well make the script work properly than trying to mess with the server settings. |
| 19:05.30 | SunSparc | Thanks :) |
| 19:06.12 | freedumMan | if you ever move the sever later you'll run into issues possibly then too, better do it right this time already. |
| 19:06.57 | SunSparc | Agreed |
| 19:07.08 | freedumMan | server* |
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| 19:34.07 | SunSparc | Woot! Disabled open_basedir and safe_mode and all is well. Just have to make sure any server the site is on has control over those settings. |
| 19:34.36 | freedumMan | im sure including you opened a security risk too |
| 19:34.48 | SunSparc | Yeah, probably |
| 19:34.58 | freedumMan | no worries until the right hacker finds you |
| 19:35.03 | SunSparc | ;) |
| 19:35.16 | SunSparc | xactly |
| 19:35.32 | freedumMan | hopefully its a nice one who doesnt destroy anything important, i know a few of them not very nice little hackers |
| 19:35.49 | SunSparc | Yeah, there are some poopoo heads out there for sure. |
| 19:36.18 | freedumMan | lol |
| 19:36.33 | SunSparc | As much as I enjoy server admin as a hobby, I really should push back on clients and let them get servers config'd on their own. |
| 19:36.55 | freedumMan | true that or make them host with someone who handles it |
| 19:37.07 | SunSparc | Yeah. |
| 19:37.26 | SunSparc | This one was using MediaTemple. |
| 19:41.43 | beandog | is that bad? |
| 19:41.57 | SunSparc | Not necessarily. |
| 19:42.11 | SunSparc | Some people like them. |
| 19:42.37 | SunSparc | I have not heard a lot of bad about them. So they are probably decent. |
| 19:43.02 | SunSparc | Hosting preferences often come down to familiarity of the systems in use. |
| 19:44.31 | beandog | yah |
| 19:44.38 | beandog | we need more gentoo webhosts. |
| 19:44.46 | SunSparc | :) |
| 19:45.11 | SunSparc | I am used to FreeBSD, personally. But I enjoy Gentoo as a workstation. Would probably make a pretty good web server. |
| 19:45.21 | beandog | oh, it does. :) |
| 19:45.29 | beandog | makes great servers. |
| 19:45.32 | beandog | lean, mean, optimized |
| 19:46.06 | DexterTheDragon | interwebs machine |
| 19:46.08 | beandog | in fact, servers seem like the most reasonable place to use Gentoo, when you consider the principle of installing as little as necessary to avoid security risks |
| 19:46.12 | beandog | but, thats just me. |
| 19:46.21 | beandog | I'm obviously biased. |
| 19:51.25 | SunSparc | :) |
| 19:51.55 | SunSparc | I enjoyed Gentoo as a learning tool and also for having a system that had what I want on it and nothing that I did not. |
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| 20:00.57 | beandog | my arm hurts. |
| 20:00.59 | beandog | :( |
| 20:01.05 | beandog | had to get blood sucked out twice |
| 20:01.27 | freedumMan | ouch |
| 20:01.52 | beandog | at least I got a Scooby Doo band-aid :D |
| 20:02.10 | xtrementl | ruh-row |
| 20:02.11 | freedumMan | awesome, |
| 20:03.32 | SunSparc | lol |
| 20:05.27 | SunSparc | beandog: Was this the sucker that got you twice? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7V_GBQclQfc |
| 20:05.49 | beandog | ooh yuck |
| 20:05.55 | beandog | no, it was a nurse |
| 20:06.00 | SunSparc | heh |
| 20:06.38 | SunSparc | Kinda wish I had some IE karma to decrement... |
| 20:06.47 | mgeary | did you know that mosquitos are responsible for more deaths than all the wars humanity has ever had, combined? |
| 20:07.36 | SunSparc | Says who? |
| 20:07.41 | beandog | SunSparc, mgeary |
| 20:07.53 | SunSparc | lol |
| 20:08.00 | SunSparc | ~smack beandog |
| 20:08.00 | ibot | ACTION smacks beandog upside the head. |
| 20:08.05 | beandog | doh |
| 20:08.26 | beandog | youre not getting a birthday present now |
| 20:08.41 | SunSparc | ~apologize beandog |
| 20:08.50 | DexterTheDragon | that sucker got big |
| 20:08.51 | SunSparc | Hrmmm |
| 20:10.21 | mgeary | SunSparc: it's estimated that a million deaths per year can be attributed to malaria caused by mosquito bites |
| 20:10.46 | SunSparc | ~beandog++ |
| 20:10.47 | mgeary | that's just malaria |
| 20:10.56 | beandog | SunSparc, yay \o/ |
| 20:11.03 | SunSparc | mgeary: Wow, we are fighting the wrong wars. |
| 20:11.05 | beandog | SunSparc, whens your birthday? |
| 20:11.10 | SunSparc | beandog: lolz |
| 20:11.18 | SunSparc | I already had it. |
| 20:11.18 | beandog | :) |
| 20:11.30 | beandog | I guess I'm off the hook then |
| 20:11.32 | freedumMan | mines in Nov I'm turning the 30 |
| 20:11.42 | SunSparc | Young buck. |
| 20:11.48 | beandog | there's no turning back! |
| 20:11.55 | SunSparc | freedumMan: Don't do it man! |
| 20:12.03 | beandog | well, physically at least. |
| 20:12.04 | freedumMan | Ha I hope to keep hearing it |
| 20:12.20 | freedumMan | Where does the time go |
| 20:12.28 | beandog | 70s movies. |
| 20:12.44 | SunSparc | heh |
| 20:12.49 | beandog | the hair in those things are timeless! |
| 20:12.59 | SunSparc | LOL! |
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| 20:32.49 | unum | jsmith: what was the name of that place that would sell you bulk text messaging service |
| 20:34.33 | mgeary | hey folks, i'm trying to use the setuid flag. Anyone got experience with that? |
| 20:34.51 | mgeary | right now, i've got a simple bash script that just does "whoami" so i can test |
| 20:35.13 | mgeary | but it's not working |
| 20:36.27 | mgeary | anyone....anyone.... |
| 20:43.35 | mindjuju | anybody recommend a project management / bugs solution? |
| 20:43.51 | beandog | trac trac trac |
| 20:43.51 | beandog | :D |
| 20:44.02 | mindjuju | i was just starting to install trac, but saw it wanted to load in subversion, i just need plain vanilla prjoect management |
| 20:44.10 | beandog | you don't need svn |
| 20:44.13 | beandog | it can work without it |
| 20:44.25 | beandog | oh wait, just project management? |
| 20:44.27 | beandog | bugzilla |
| 20:44.28 | beandog | :D |
| 20:44.42 | DexterTheDragon | ~bugzilla-- |
| 20:48.07 | mindjuju | psh, thebigdog colos at Hobo's Colo |
| 20:48.20 | mindjuju | with 56k data transfer speed to each server there! |
| 20:48.38 | mindjuju | guaranteed! |
| 20:48.49 | mindjuju | (free box of sardines with each 1u rental |
| 20:50.59 | undertakingyou | mindjuju: wow, what a deal. Sign me up! |
| 20:52.28 | beandog | meh, I'm pooped. |
| 21:01.17 | SunSparc | ~poop |
| 21:01.18 | ibot | fish |
| 21:01.44 | beandog | lol |
| 21:06.38 | DexterTheDragon | ~fried |
| 21:07.05 | DexterTheDragon | ~dtdhit mindjuju |
| 21:07.05 | ibot | ACTION stikes at mindjuju with the evil rooster chop causing a very bad flesh wound! |
| 21:07.44 | mindjuju | ~dtdhit dexterthedragon |
| 21:07.45 | ibot | ACTION stikes at dexterthedragon with the evil rooster chop knocks out dexterthedragon and injures jnbek! |
| 21:10.45 | DexterTheDragon | jnbek becomes collateral damage |
| 21:23.21 | Lone_Wanderer | Jeremy spoke in |
| 21:23.26 | Lone_Wanderer | class today |
| 21:25.47 | mindjuju | love that song |
| 21:25.55 | Lone_Wanderer | Oh yeah. |
| 21:25.59 | Lone_Wanderer | 90s rock++ |
| 21:26.08 | Lone_Wanderer | (even though he probably only got rock) |
| 21:26.21 | Lone_Wanderer | ~karma 90s rock |
| 21:26.21 | ibot | 90s rock has neutral karma |
| 21:26.34 | Lone_Wanderer | ~karma rock |
| 21:26.34 | ibot | rock has neutral karma |
| 21:28.12 | Heartsbane | ~karma ie |
| 21:28.12 | ibot | ie has karma of -669 |
| 21:28.45 | mgeary | ~ie++ |
| 21:28.58 | SunSparc | uh oh, IE is off kilter |
| 21:29.04 | DexterTheDragon | ~ie++ |
| 21:29.17 | DexterTheDragon | thats painful |
| 21:29.22 | SunSparc | No kidding |
| 21:29.43 | DexterTheDragon | ~karma ie |
| 21:29.43 | ibot | ie has karma of -667 |
| 21:29.58 | SunSparc | ~ie== |
| 21:30.02 | SunSparc | ~ie++ |
| 21:30.10 | SunSparc | ~karma ie |
| 21:30.10 | ibot | ie has karma of -666 |
| 21:30.16 | SunSparc | Whew! Much better. |
| 21:32.00 | Heartsbane | ~ie-- |
| 21:32.56 | orsonj | ~lart Heartsbane |
| 21:32.56 | ibot | strangles Heartsbane with a 9-pole serial cable |
| 21:33.13 | SunSparc | ~ie++ |
| 21:33.33 | SunSparc | Heartsbane: We worked long at hard to give IE the karma of the devil. :) |
| 21:33.52 | SunSparc | ~karma IE |
| 21:33.52 | ibot | ie has karma of -666 |
| 21:34.15 | SunSparc | ~ie |
| 21:34.15 | ibot | methinks ie is the domain suffix for Ireland, or Internet Explorer, or the browser of the Devil |
| 21:35.00 | SunSparc | Verstehen Sie? |
| 21:40.10 | Lone_Wanderer | I'm thinkin' I could use me a little Cash as well. |
| 21:40.18 | Heartsbane | ~ie-- |
| 21:40.31 | Lone_Wanderer | Sunday Morning Coming Down |
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| 22:30.31 | stderr | ~karma ie |
| 22:30.31 | ibot | ie has karma of -667 |
| 22:30.36 | stderr | ~ie-- |
| 22:31.19 | stderr | wow, I must be on crack |
| 22:31.24 | stderr | ~ie++ |
| 22:31.31 | SunSparc | stderr: heh, force of habit |
| 22:31.51 | stderr | SunSparc: yar |
| 22:31.54 | SunSparc | And an aversion to assigning positive karma to the evil IE |
| 22:32.02 | stderr | ~ie++ |
| 22:32.10 | stderr | ~karma ie |
| 22:32.10 | ibot | ie has karma of -666 |
| 22:32.11 | mindjuju | curious - HTML 5 drops open-source video codec - http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9595_22-318208.html |
| 22:32.13 | stderr | there we go |
| 22:34.32 | SunSparc | Much better |
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| 22:52.42 | redroy | does anybody use or know of any scripts to hack IE for css first-child and last-child ? |
| 22:56.36 | SunSparc | rm -rf /opt/IE |
| 22:57.02 | SunSparc | cat /dev/null > /opt/IE |
| 22:57.51 | redroy | lol |
| 22:58.10 | stderr | redroy: http://mauzon.com/?p=85 |
| 22:58.31 | orsonj | http://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-3.5&os=win&lang=en-US |
| 22:58.53 | mindjuju | I may not know much about college football, but this exchange between coaches is funny |
| 22:58.54 | mindjuju | http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705315409/BCS-called-unfair-illegal-2-or-great.html?linkTrack=rss-30 |
| 22:58.59 | SunSparc | orsonj: Nice one. |
| 22:59.02 | mindjuju | University of Nebraska Chancellor Harvey Perlman, a member of the BCS oversight committee, said, "It's hard to respond to this without appearing to be disrespectful of Utah," but he essentially said the Utah school played a powder-puff schedule compared to teams in automatic-berth conferences. |
| 22:59.04 | orsonj | (step two after either of the two steps mentioned above) |
| 22:59.56 | redroy | Awesome, thanks |
| 23:00.39 | stderr | Wow, something me and Orrin Hatch can agree on. Of course, I think it's general consensus that the BCS is broken, never met anyone who actually liked it. |
| 23:01.28 | mindjuju | i do know though, there is something called a PAC and apparently that's got something to do with somehting that might be related to this |
| 23:01.35 | mindjuju | i should look that up and see what it is |
| 23:01.49 | stderr | haha |
| 23:01.53 | stderr | PAC as in the conference? |
| 23:02.06 | stderr | The BCS is the alternative to a playoff system in NCAA football. |
| 23:02.07 | SunSparc | PAC as in Man? |
| 23:02.13 | mindjuju | just know it has something to do with football |
| 23:02.21 | stderr | and it's garbage. |
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| 23:03.23 | stderr | although I do agree with the Nebraska coach, I doubt Utah would be able to go up against some powerhouse conferences, but they should at least have the chance. |
| 23:03.46 | mindjuju | so why don't they do it like the NFL? |
| 23:05.02 | orsonj | vi > emacs > football > ie |
| 23:05.09 | stderr | mindjuju: it's pretty convoluted. |
| 23:05.45 | stderr | but honestly, there's no _good_ reason it isn't a playoff system. |
| 23:06.16 | stderr | think of the BCS as the IE of the college football world. People abhor it. |
| 23:06.26 | mindjuju | hehe |
| 23:08.14 | stderr | of course in college basketball the brackets sometimes lend weight to schools from smaller conferences and overrate them |
| 23:08.19 | stderr | *cough* Nevada *cough* |
| 23:08.39 | stderr | #9 in the nation indeed. *roll of eyes* |
| 23:09.55 | mindjuju | about the most i ever followed was dodgeball when it was in leagues after the movie, but they stopped doing that i think |
| 23:10.00 | mindjuju | and i didn't watch regular |
| 23:10.10 | mindjuju | man, what's with tierra hiking all over the place? |
| 23:10.16 | mindjuju | cool pics though |
| 23:10.30 | stderr | tierra, optikal, and eco |
| 23:10.41 | mindjuju | i didn't think Utah had more than 5 trees in a 20 foot radius, but his pictures prove otherwise |
| 23:10.45 | stderr | yea those pics are amazing |
| 23:11.40 | optikal | I finally got these guys to start going on some awesome long hikes. All the good stuff is atleast 3mi in, besides maybe Donut Falls. |
| 23:11.58 | mindjuju | the Lake Blanche hike looked awesome |
| 23:12.00 | mindjuju | i love this pic |
| 23:12.05 | mindjuju | http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=2044959&id=741364607&comments=#/photo.php?pid=40173&id=1820704614 |
| 23:12.34 | mindjuju | though from the description i found on another site, sounds like it'd kick my butt |
| 23:12.40 | optikal | Yeah, Lake Blanche is great. I'm going to camp up there in a couple weeks. |
| 23:13.14 | optikal | It is a moderate hike, up hill all 3.5mi of it. |
| 23:13.25 | optikal | Close to 3k elevation gain. |
| 23:14.00 | mindjuju | yeah, i haven't done real hiking since i was in scouts some... |
| 23:14.07 | mindjuju | almost 20yrs ago |
| 23:14.13 | SunSparc | Night all |
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| 23:21.27 | tierra | mindjuju: tis that time of the year |
| 23:22.19 | mindjuju | well now that i know there are trees and really real forests, i'm going tohave to get in shape to do some of those trails |
| 23:22.23 | mindjuju | the pics are fantastic |
| 23:22.24 | mindjuju | ! |
| 23:22.30 | tierra | :) |
| 23:22.54 | tierra | lots of good stuff up American Fork Canyon and Big Cottonwood |
| 23:23.27 | optikal | Now if I can talk tierra into mountain biking... you get to see better views in less time, and a lot more fun |
| 23:23.33 | tierra | heh |
| 23:25.04 | optikal | Check out some of the trails on http://www.utahmountainbiking.com/ |
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| 23:26.57 | tierra | one interest at a time plzkthx |
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