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| 01:02.53 | carmony | http://pwnzord.com/piercing.jpg LOL, I know this guy! :P |
| 01:04.31 | mindjuju | that's awesome |
| 01:04.55 | mindjuju | but isn't the tap suppose to be higher up on the head so it has access to the brain? |
| 01:05.25 | mindjuju | at least, it seems like the brainstem is suppose to be a little higher |
| 01:06.08 | Shyfe | hey can you guys help out a beginner in php |
| 01:06.59 | mindjuju | i'm actually taking off for a moment, but ask away and somebody will be here to aswer |
| 01:07.06 | Shyfe | alright |
| 01:07.12 | Shyfe | well i'm trying to figure out how to use php with the autoincrement feature |
| 01:07.27 | Shyfe | what i would do to make it so that each post ID in a forum type software im making |
| 01:07.32 | Shyfe | would automatically just increase |
| 01:08.35 | mindjuju | so, Shyfe, here's a quick question for you |
| 01:08.46 | mindjuju | let's say that forum of yours get a bit busy |
| 01:09.13 | mindjuju | what's to say that 2 people submit at the same time |
| 01:09.13 | Shyfe | is the auto increment feature not fast enough to handle it? |
| 01:09.20 | mindjuju | whats to stop them from getting the same id |
| 01:09.36 | Shyfe | no idea i thought with autoincrement it's impossible for 2 to have the same ID |
| 01:09.51 | mindjuju | well, let's ay there is a better way to do it |
| 01:09.57 | mindjuju | let the database autoincrement |
| 01:10.04 | mindjuju | and have your php code just insert the record |
| 01:10.24 | Shyfe | insert the record? |
| 01:10.42 | mindjuju | insert the forum post |
| 01:11.03 | mindjuju | does that make sense? |
| 01:11.04 | Shyfe | yeah i have it set on autoincrement |
| 01:11.05 | Shyfe | but |
| 01:11.12 | Shyfe | im not quite understanding what i would insert in the php code |
| 01:11.23 | Shyfe | to integrate it with the autoincrement |
| 01:11.28 | Shyfe | like what would i enter under POST_ID |
| 01:11.37 | DexterTheDragon | nothing |
| 01:12.41 | Shyfe | so i just leave out that field completely |
| 01:12.41 | mindjuju | the database creates that ID |
| 01:12.41 | Shyfe | and mysql will put each one in a new id? |
| 01:12.41 | mindjuju | yup, leave it blank |
| 01:12.41 | Shyfe | ok cool |
| 01:12.41 | mindjuju | yes |
| 01:12.43 | Shyfe | so mindjuju are you telling me this won't work if a lot of people are doing it at the asme time |
| 01:12.43 | DexterTheDragon | provided you did auto_increment not null defualt null |
| 01:12.43 | Shyfe | because i was planning to make a sort of chat software |
| 01:12.43 | Shyfe | and i would expect lots of posts per second |
| 01:12.59 | mindjuju | well Shyfe, it will work now, but long term, you have a problem |
| 01:13.14 | Shyfe | well that's not good |
| 01:13.18 | mindjuju | yup |
| 01:13.21 | Shyfe | could you offer some advice on a better way to do it? |
| 01:13.22 | DexterTheDragon | mindjuju: really? |
| 01:13.34 | mindjuju | rly |
| 01:14.08 | Shyfe | i am expecting my site to get a fair amount of traffic in just a few months |
| 01:14.10 | Shyfe | so care to enlighten me? |
| 01:14.13 | mindjuju | he could query the database, get the last ID from the table, increment and then do the insert |
| 01:14.30 | mindjuju | but like i say, that's the wrong way to do it |
| 01:14.43 | mindjuju | he should let the database handle the autoincrement and just insert the rest of the data |
| 01:14.49 | DexterTheDragon | well thats manually doing incrementing, mysql should handle auto_inc fine |
| 01:14.53 | Shyfe | what long term problems will i run into |
| 01:15.32 | mindjuju | maybe i misspoke myself, what i am saying is that while it is technically possible to do it manually, it isn't the right way to do it, and it will lead to problems |
| 01:15.37 | mindjuju | but i don't want to lie and say it won't work |
| 01:15.42 | mindjuju | cause technically, it will |
| 01:16.06 | utahcon | mindjuju: is right, doing the increment by hand is bad, it will work but the wrong way to do it |
| 01:16.11 | utahcon | you run into race conditions |
| 01:16.19 | utahcon | letting mysql do the work is the best way |
| 01:16.35 | utahcon | just throw your insert at the db and let it set the increment |
| 01:16.51 | Shyfe | i never intended to do it manually lol |
| 01:16.58 | DexterTheDragon | Shyfe: so the clear as mud conclusion is that mysql with auto_increment is just fine |
| 01:17.07 | mindjuju | yup |
| 01:17.14 | Shyfe | okay |
| 01:17.19 | utahcon | ~lart DexterTheDragon for speaking of mysql |
| 01:17.19 | ibot | stuffs DexterTheDragon into a shiny new tin can and vacuum seals it for speaking of mysql |
| 01:17.19 | Shyfe | and onto the next segment of my program |
| 01:17.24 | Shyfe | so what i am going to do |
| 01:17.32 | Shyfe | is have it randomly select a post |
| 01:17.34 | Shyfe | and display it |
| 01:17.40 | Shyfe | how would you suggest i do the randomizing process |
| 01:17.56 | utahcon | ugh |
| 01:18.32 | utahcon | I would do a 'select max(post_id) from table' stick that in a $var |
| 01:18.49 | utahcon | then do $randomPostId = rand(0,$var); |
| 01:19.02 | Shyfe | nice sounds solid |
| 01:19.03 | utahcon | oh no? |
| 01:19.14 | mindjuju | i'd lock and load on ths hawt sql lovelyness |
| 01:19.16 | mindjuju | SELECT * FROM `table` ORDER BY RAND() LIMIT 0,1; |
| 01:19.22 | Shyfe | and i'm going to have lots of people just keep entering messages and it will randomly select one |
| 01:19.27 | DexterTheDragon | mindjuju: very bad |
| 01:19.28 | utahcon | mindjuju wins agaain |
| 01:19.29 | Shyfe | although |
| 01:19.34 | utahcon | I always forget to let me db do the workd |
| 01:19.40 | Shyfe | once it chooses messages from a certain pool, it can't choose from it again |
| 01:19.48 | Shyfe | would you say mysql would have problems keeping that many entries |
| 01:19.52 | DexterTheDragon | mindjuju: that way does a filesort on the table |
| 01:19.52 | Shyfe | and i should just wipe the database every time it chooses |
| 01:19.55 | Shyfe | or will it be fine |
| 01:20.02 | DexterTheDragon | get over a 100 records and it takes forever |
| 01:20.14 | utahcon | DexterTheDragon: has a point |
| 01:20.20 | Shyfe | really? |
| 01:20.23 | utahcon | Shyfe: mysql can handle many millions of records |
| 01:20.31 | Shyfe | oh ok |
| 01:20.32 | Shyfe | lol |
| 01:20.35 | utahcon | you just have to know what you are doing when you setup and scale the db |
| 01:20.38 | DexterTheDragon | with proper indexes |
| 01:20.44 | DexterTheDragon | RAND() doesn't use indexes |
| 01:20.44 | Shyfe | well all i was gonna do is autoincrement |
| 01:20.49 | Shyfe | the post_ID |
| 01:20.52 | Shyfe | and store millions of posts |
| 01:21.21 | utahcon | Shyfe: millions of posts and auto_inc are play toys for mysql |
| 01:22.02 | DexterTheDragon | utahcon: nope |
| 01:22.09 | Shyfe | i wish i knew how to code =( |
| 01:22.10 | utahcon | good man |
| 01:22.17 | utahcon | Shyfe: only one way to learn |
| 01:22.22 | Shyfe | lol |
| 01:22.26 | Shyfe | i know everything about computers and windows |
| 01:22.28 | Shyfe | but no idea how to code |
| 01:22.37 | utahcon | at some point most everyone in this channel couldn't code... myself excluded. |
| 01:22.42 | utahcon | Windows?! |
| 01:23.01 | Shyfe | i meant fedora |
| 01:23.07 | Shyfe | the keys are like right next to each other |
| 01:23.22 | Shyfe | http://i40.tinypic.com/11l1nxg.png |
| 01:23.22 | utahcon | lol fedora... |
| 01:23.38 | Shyfe | unix-based operating system |
| 01:23.43 | Shyfe | so how does that schema loko |
| 01:23.45 | Shyfe | am i doing anything wrong |
| 01:24.00 | utahcon | why are you storing the date and time separate? |
| 01:24.06 | utahcon | datetime is a gem |
| 01:24.09 | Shyfe | i thought they were separate |
| 01:24.10 | Shyfe | ah i see |
| 01:24.24 | mindjuju | DtD - http://www.ifc.com/news/2009/06/50-greatest-trailers.php?page=44 |
| 01:24.26 | Shyfe | but the rest looks to be setup correctly? |
| 01:24.31 | utahcon | are you planning on having dots in your IP s? |
| 01:24.37 | Shyfe | yeah i looked at this guide |
| 01:24.38 | utahcon | if so int is a bad idea |
| 01:24.41 | Shyfe | and it said to use int |
| 01:24.41 | DexterTheDragon | and not using unicode?!? |
| 01:24.46 | Shyfe | i have a feeling it might be outdated |
| 01:24.48 | Shyfe | how would i do it |
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| 01:25.47 | utahcon | good questions... DexterTheDragon any tips for IP address storage? I have always done varchar, but there has to be something better |
| 01:25.54 | utahcon | ~lart justincarmony |
| 01:25.54 | ibot | throws a AN/M-8 smoke grenade at justincarmony |
| 01:25.54 | DexterTheDragon | hang on |
| 01:26.08 | justincarmony | ~lart utahcon |
| 01:26.08 | ibot | stuffs utahcon into a shiny new tin can and vacuum seals it |
| 01:26.19 | utahcon | ibot is reusing quotes |
| 01:26.23 | utahcon | ~ie-- |
| 01:26.24 | DexterTheDragon | justincarmony now stays fresh too |
| 01:26.27 | utahcon | ~karma ie |
| 01:26.27 | ibot | ie has karma of -201 |
| 01:26.34 | justincarmony | ~ie-- |
| 01:26.38 | justincarmony | lol |
| 01:26.46 | mindjuju | how did i miss this movie? |
| 01:26.47 | mindjuju | http://www.ifc.com/news/2009/06/50-greatest-trailers.php?page=49 |
| 01:27.00 | mindjuju | i mean, i heard of it, but didn't get around to see it, and didn't see this one |
| 01:27.03 | utahcon | cloverfield was teh bomb! |
| 01:27.12 | mindjuju | the rpeview looks awesome! |
| 01:27.15 | utahcon | mindjuju: honestly you didnt miss much in cloverfield |
| 01:27.28 | mindjuju | really? |
| 01:27.28 | utahcon | the movie dragged on... was shot really well, but poorly all at the same time |
| 01:27.33 | justincarmony | so whats with the lart utahcon, eh? :P |
| 01:27.40 | mindjuju | kind of blair-witchy? |
| 01:27.49 | utahcon | and it was 100% predictable... if you have seen 1 JJ Abrams show you have seen them all |
| 01:27.59 | utahcon | ~lart justincarmony for asking about larting |
| 01:27.59 | ibot | executes killall -TERM justincarmony for asking about larting |
| 01:28.17 | utahcon | won't storing it in the int strip the dots |
| 01:28.18 | utahcon | ? |
| 01:28.19 | mindjuju | DtD, you store IP addresses in int? |
| 01:28.20 | DexterTheDragon | Shyfe: utahcon: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/miscellaneous-functions.html#function_inet-aton |
| 01:28.23 | mindjuju | yeah |
| 01:28.28 | justincarmony | ~lart utahcon for giving me a reason to ask. |
| 01:28.28 | ibot | gives utahcon a good seeing to for giving me a reason to ask. |
| 01:28.32 | Shyfe | thanks i'll take a look in a bit |
| 01:28.44 | Shyfe | trying to figure out the entry form now |
| 01:28.55 | justincarmony | utahcon: are you going to be searching against the IP addresses? |
| 01:28.55 | Shyfe | i really do hate reading books so im just trying to learn by trying to do it |
| 01:29.05 | DexterTheDragon | mindjuju: see link ^ |
| 01:29.12 | mindjuju | DexterTheDragon - that's uber cool |
| 01:29.45 | *** topic/#UPHPU by mindjuju -> Dexterthedragon is uber cool and I suggest you look at this link on how to store IPs: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/miscellaneous-functions.html#function_inet-aton |
| 01:29.55 | DexterTheDragon | heh |
| 01:30.00 | utahcon | seems risking... but ok |
| 01:30.05 | utahcon | if mysql say so I am ok with it |
| 01:30.24 | utahcon | mindjuju: I am surprised you didn't tiny url it |
| 01:30.37 | mindjuju | :) |
| 01:30.54 | mindjuju | it's only for 15 minutes of fame and glory |
| 01:31.05 | DexterTheDragon | utahcon: its standard IP conversion http://www.aboutmyip.com/AboutMyXApp/IP2Integer.jsp |
| 01:31.06 | utahcon | the link is a good link though |
| 01:31.23 | mindjuju | k, this trailer IS v good and deserves num 1 |
| 01:31.24 | mindjuju | http://www.ifc.com/news/2009/06/50-greatest-trailers.php?page=51 |
| 01:31.26 | utahcon | ~lart DexterTheDragon for being so damned smart... and almost good looking |
| 01:31.26 | ibot | send killer squirrels to attack DexterTheDragon for being so damned smart... and almost good looking |
| 01:31.29 | mindjuju | and the movie was awesome |
| 01:31.39 | utahcon | alright kids I have to run got a room to finish pulling apart and putting together |
| 01:31.43 | mindjuju | i like Aliens also, but it was more of an actiony movie |
| 01:31.54 | utahcon | maybe be on later to see if anyone actually shows up to the UTOS-xo channel for the "meeting" |
| 01:32.14 | mindjuju | wait wait, there is a UTOS meet? |
| 01:32.24 | mindjuju | wasn't that uh tuesday? |
| 01:32.48 | utahcon | mindjuju: the xo meeting |
| 01:32.55 | utahcon | with the 14 yr old |
| 01:33.05 | mindjuju | oh |
| 01:33.08 | mindjuju | OH! |
| 01:33.11 | utahcon | yeah |
| 01:33.12 | utahcon | that one |
| 01:33.15 | mindjuju | did send something out to cancel? |
| 01:33.16 | Shyfe | do you guys happen to know if cols/rows are the same width/height on all browsers |
| 01:33.23 | utahcon | was supposed to turn into an IRC meeting... |
| 01:33.26 | mindjuju | or should i walk up gront to see if somebody showed up |
| 01:33.27 | mindjuju | ohhhh |
| 01:33.28 | Shyfe | im trying to make a textbox and there doesn't seem to be a pixel size function |
| 01:33.29 | mindjuju | gotcha |
| 01:33.51 | utahcon | Shyfe: the size is based on browser, but CSS can fix all that. |
| 01:33.54 | mindjuju | textboxes obey the mighty CSS |
| 01:33.59 | utahcon | ok guys I am off for a while... |
| 01:34.04 | mindjuju | cya utahcon |
| 01:34.12 | Shyfe | thanks for the help utahcon |
| 01:35.24 | mindjuju | Shyfe -- here's ya some sql hawtness |
| 01:35.25 | mindjuju | SELECT * FROM `table` WHERE id >= (SELECT FLOOR( MAX(id) * RAND()) FROM `table` ) ORDER BY id LIMIT 1; |
| 01:35.31 | Shyfe | heh im on a 1920x1200 and i keep running out of taskbar space |
| 01:35.52 | Shyfe | man i have no idea what half of that even means |
| 01:36.29 | mindjuju | it means return all record from your table and specifically pull back |
| 01:36.47 | mindjuju | a random 1 |
| 01:38.53 | Shyfe | yeah i figured that much |
| 01:38.57 | Shyfe | no idea what it actually means though |
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| 01:39.04 | Shyfe | can i use a textarea like i use a div? |
| 01:39.14 | Shyfe | as in the css |
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| 01:39.35 | justincarmony | you can specify a width and height |
| 01:40.00 | justincarmony | <input type="text" name="username" style="width:250px; height:28px;" /> |
| 01:40.12 | DexterTheDragon | ewwww inline styles |
| 01:40.19 | Shyfe | im using <text area |
| 01:40.21 | Shyfe | though |
| 01:40.25 | justincarmony | I wouldn't use inline styles, but to demonstraite |
| 01:40.32 | justincarmony | <textarea> behaves the same way |
| 01:40.57 | justincarmony | the CSS Instructions > Rows & Cols Attributes |
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| 01:41.34 | Citrus | lol what the hell |
| 01:41.36 | Citrus | i just got disconnected |
| 01:41.38 | Citrus | (Shyfe) |
| 01:42.16 | justincarmony | lol no good |
| 01:42.30 | justincarmony | Here is my idea for a Website for Twitter: http://tinyurl.com/mjcb6w |
| 01:43.55 | Citrus | so have any idea how to set the size for a text area? |
| 01:43.57 | Citrus | can i use the same thing |
| 01:45.39 | Citrus | yep it does work |
| 01:45.40 | Citrus | very nice |
| 01:50.50 | xtrementl | Citrus: like carmony said, width/height in css, or cols/rows as html attributes |
| 01:51.11 | DexterTheDragon | watch out for ie <.< >.> |
| 01:52.48 | Citrus | textarea and name doesn't seem to work the same as div id |
| 01:53.10 | DexterTheDragon | put an id on textarea |
| 01:53.18 | Citrus | <textarea id="dasda">? |
| 01:53.24 | DexterTheDragon | yep |
| 01:53.30 | Citrus | will this be accessed by php |
| 01:53.33 | Citrus | in the same way |
| 01:53.33 | DexterTheDragon | id's go on everything |
| 01:53.47 | DexterTheDragon | no form submittal needs the name |
| 01:53.54 | DexterTheDragon | css needs the id or class |
| 01:54.07 | Citrus | well |
| 01:54.08 | Citrus | the text area |
| 01:54.14 | Citrus | im trying to use it with |
| 01:54.16 | Citrus | css and form |
| 01:54.18 | Citrus | so i put both id and anme? |
| 01:54.21 | DexterTheDragon | yep |
| 01:54.48 | wps | yes, put some anime in thereâ¦Â that'll help |
| 01:54.56 | Citrus | already have |
| 01:55.31 | Citrus | finally a good irc channel with good hel[p |
| 01:55.44 | Citrus | once my site becomes succesful i will come back and give everyone free moneys |
| 01:56.03 | DexterTheDragon | yay free moneys |
| 01:56.57 | Citrus | lol my mom asks me if i am constantly turning off the server |
| 01:56.59 | Citrus | and im like ?? |
| 01:57.02 | Citrus | she meant the internet wasn't working |
| 01:57.40 | xtrementl | i bet she thinks everything is a virus too? |
| 01:58.16 | Citrus | quite the opposite |
| 01:59.05 | xtrementl | so what are ya trying to do on the php side? |
| 01:59.46 | Citrus | wat |
| 02:05.20 | Citrus | hmm |
| 02:05.23 | Citrus | what do i type to put stuff in the database |
| 02:05.24 | Citrus | lol |
| 02:05.31 | Citrus | i can't find the page in my book |
| 02:05.34 | Citrus | figure i might as well just ask here |
| 02:06.20 | Citrus | nvm i think i got it |
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| 02:09.35 | Citrus | alright |
| 02:09.48 | Citrus | so now i'm trying to figure out how to make my webserver randomly display a post every 15 mins |
| 02:09.53 | *** part/#uphpu snowfarthing (n=alpheus@75-169-52-18.slkc.qwest.net) |
| 02:09.56 | Citrus | anyone got some advice? |
| 02:25.33 | Citrus | insert into QUOTE (QUO_CONTENT) VALUES ($squote); |
| 02:25.36 | Citrus | i'm getting an error on this |
| 02:25.38 | Citrus | anyone know why? |
| 02:25.48 | Citrus | Parse error: syntax error, unexpected T_STRING |
| 02:26.40 | DexterTheDragon | need quotes around ($squote); |
| 02:26.47 | Citrus | double quotes? |
| 02:26.59 | DexterTheDragon | ("$squote") |
| 02:27.13 | Citrus | same error |
| 02:27.13 | DexterTheDragon | either work but make sure you've escaped $squote |
| 02:27.21 | DexterTheDragon | I'd have to have to hack your website |
| 02:27.46 | Citrus | http://pastebin.com/d3c97c84f |
| 02:28.23 | DexterTheDragon | what did you type into squote? |
| 02:28.29 | Citrus | test |
| 02:28.44 | DexterTheDragon | oh that was a php error |
| 02:28.51 | DexterTheDragon | you have raw sql in your php |
| 02:29.07 | Citrus | what am i supposed to do |
| 02:29.14 | DexterTheDragon | http://us2.php.net/mysql_query |
| 02:29.59 | Citrus | so i have to put it in its own file/ |
| 02:30.00 | Citrus | ? |
| 02:30.26 | DexterTheDragon | you have to run it through its own function |
| 02:30.55 | DexterTheDragon | something like mysql_query('INSERT INTO ..... ("$sqoute")'); |
| 02:31.10 | DexterTheDragon | but that requires other database setup stuff before hand |
| 02:31.22 | Citrus | having the tables set up isn't enough? |
| 02:31.33 | DexterTheDragon | you should probably read some stuff about connecting to mysql with php |
| 02:31.46 | Citrus | was hoping to figure it out here lol |
| 02:35.51 | Citrus | do i need to connect to the database in the code |
| 02:36.01 | Citrus | or will it automatically be accessing the database that i set the site up on |
| 02:36.41 | DexterTheDragon | need to connect |
| 02:37.16 | Citrus | k |
| 02:37.21 | Citrus | and mysql_query(blah blah) should work? |
| 02:37.33 | DexterTheDragon | yep |
| 02:38.05 | Citrus | unexpected T_variable |
| 02:38.05 | Citrus | wtf |
| 02:38.16 | DexterTheDragon | if all the mysql_connect and mysql_select_db, etc are done properly |
| 02:40.44 | Citrus | k thanks |
| 02:40.50 | Citrus | i seem to have it working now the only thing left is the connection |
| 02:40.50 | Citrus | bah |
| 02:40.57 | Citrus | cannot connecto local mysql server |
| 02:41.08 | Citrus | k here's another question |
| 02:41.09 | Citrus | $query = 'insert into QUOTE (QUO_CONTENT) VALUES ("$squote")'; |
| 02:41.13 | Citrus | if i do that |
| 02:41.23 | Citrus | and i do mysql_query("$query") |
| 02:41.29 | Citrus | will it take the value of squote |
| 02:41.33 | Citrus | im not sure how a double inside a single works |
| 02:41.35 | DexterTheDragon | nope |
| 02:41.45 | Citrus | should i just do one double |
| 02:41.49 | Citrus | and $squote doesn't have any quotes around it |
| 02:42.21 | DexterTheDragon | well here's the thing, the query will have to be a string, so it will need to be in quotes |
| 02:42.28 | Citrus | k here's what i did |
| 02:42.39 | Citrus | $query = "insert into QUOTE (QUO_CONTENT) VALUES ($squote)"; |
| 02:42.40 | DexterTheDragon | now inside that string the SQL syntax will need quotes around the value |
| 02:42.47 | Citrus | that won't work? |
| 02:42.59 | *** topic/#UPHPU by mindjuju -> Utah PHP Users Group | uphpu.org |
| 02:43.06 | DexterTheDragon | oh sadness mindjuju |
| 02:43.11 | mindjuju | goign home for tonight, see you gents |
| 02:43.13 | mindjuju | :) |
| 02:43.16 | DexterTheDragon | cya mindjuju |
| 02:43.21 | Citrus | peace thanks for the help |
| 02:43.34 | DexterTheDragon | Citrus: you would need single quotes around the value in sql then |
| 02:43.44 | Citrus | it gives an error |
| 02:43.55 | Citrus | oh wait |
| 02:43.55 | Citrus | nvm |
| 02:43.57 | Citrus | i see what u mean |
| 02:44.09 | Citrus | wait |
| 02:44.21 | Citrus | $query = "insert into QUOTE (QUO_CONTENT) VALUES ('$squote')"; |
| 02:44.22 | Citrus | so that |
| 02:44.40 | DexterTheDragon | yeah |
| 02:44.57 | Citrus | interesting |
| 02:45.06 | Citrus | so single quotes inside double quotes mean nothing basically |
| 02:45.31 | DexterTheDragon | no it means the string has single quotes in it |
| 02:46.55 | Citrus | i meant it wouldn't make whatever inside is literal |
| 02:47.00 | Citrus | inside literal* |
| 02:47.04 | Citrus | is inside literal* |
| 02:47.04 | Citrus | lol |
| 02:57.15 | John_Stamos | how can i get php to store the date of a submission into mysql |
| 03:19.48 | DexterTheDragon | John_Stamos: use mysql's function NOW() |
| 03:20.42 | John_Stamos | like this: $query_autonow = "INSERT INTO TABLENAME (DATETIME) VALUE ('DATETIME: Auto NOW()', NOW() )"; |
| 03:21.45 | DexterTheDragon | I don't know what 'DATETIME: Auto NOW()' is but the other part is right |
| 03:24.10 | John_Stamos | the time isnt coming up in the table. it says: 0000-00-00 00:00:00 |
| 03:37.20 | John_Stamos | how do i fix that |
| 04:02.24 | Citrus | anyone know how to make the server perform a task every x minutes? |
| 04:02.40 | wps | most common method is with cron |
| 04:02.46 | wps | another is launchd |
| 04:03.04 | wps | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cron |
| 04:03.13 | Citrus | so what i'm trying to do is make it generate a random post id every 15 mins |
| 04:03.19 | Citrus | so it can display that post on the site |
| 04:03.23 | Citrus | and everyone will see the same post |
| 04:03.26 | Citrus | i would use cron to do it? |
| 04:03.51 | wps | I don't understand what you're trying to do |
| 04:04.02 | Citrus | alright so let's say i got 50,000 quotes stored in my database |
| 04:04.12 | Citrus | and i want it to randomly display a random quote every 15 minutes |
| 04:04.18 | Citrus | except everyone is seeing the same quote at all times |
| 04:04.26 | Citrus | i want to somehow to do this |
| 04:04.39 | wps | what is "it"? a web page? |
| 04:04.42 | Citrus | yeah |
| 04:05.21 | wps | so you have a web page where you are displaying quotes and you want the quote to change (randomly) every 15 minutes? |
| 04:05.28 | Citrus | yes |
| 04:05.32 | DexterTheDragon | select an id, cache it in the file, if the timestamp on the file is < 15 minutes use the id in it, otherwise grab a new one |
| 04:05.52 | wps | do you want it to change even if the page is not reloaded? |
| 04:06.05 | Citrus | yes but i figure that is more complex |
| 04:06.08 | Citrus | and could be based off the same code |
| 04:06.13 | Citrus | so im just trying to figure it out with the reload first |
| 04:06.21 | Citrus | unless it's different |
| 04:06.24 | Citrus | then by all means, do tell |
| 04:06.34 | wps | it would be different |
| 04:06.40 | wps | one is done with PHP, the other javascript |
| 04:06.58 | Citrus | can javascript do time commands? |
| 04:07.01 | wps | yes |
| 04:07.06 | Citrus | so i could just skip cron |
| 04:07.15 | wps | you don't want cron at all for this |
| 04:07.21 | Citrus | ok i got an ajax book right here, i guess that will help? |
| 04:07.37 | wps | probably |
| 04:07.45 | wps | depends on what it covers and what you know |
| 04:07.50 | Citrus | i know nothing about ajax |
| 04:07.52 | wps | I'd start with the reload first though |
| 04:07.52 | Citrus | but just to clarify |
| 04:07.58 | Citrus | i want it to show the same post for everyone |
| 04:07.59 | Citrus | at all times |
| 04:08.04 | Citrus | but i want it to change every 15 mins |
| 04:08.24 | wps | why? |
| 04:08.41 | wps | (why to the part about needing to ensure that everyone is seeing the same quote at the same time) |
| 04:08.52 | Citrus | that's just how my site works |
| 04:09.29 | Citrus | but javascript can do it? |
| 04:09.30 | wps | this is how I would do it |
| 04:09.56 | wps | use a cache file (or database table) |
| 04:10.06 | wps | each time the script is called, it checks the current time against the time in your cache |
| 04:10.16 | Citrus | yep i was planning to do that |
| 04:10.22 | Citrus | except how do i make the database change every 15 mins |
| 04:10.25 | Citrus | that's been my problem |
| 04:10.39 | DexterTheDragon | you don't, you change the id in the file |
| 04:10.47 | wps | if it is one second past a quarter of an hour, then you query the database for the next quoteâ¦Â store the quote and the timestamp in the cache |
| 04:10.47 | Citrus | i meant |
| 04:10.55 | Citrus | i want it to automatically |
| 04:10.57 | Citrus | change the ID in the database |
| 04:10.59 | Citrus | every 15 mins |
| 04:11.01 | Citrus | how do i make it do this |
| 04:11.13 | wps | you don't change the ID of the quotes⦠|
| 04:11.21 | Citrus | nonono that's not what im saying |
| 04:11.21 | wps | you just change which quote you're currently serving in your cache |
| 04:11.24 | Citrus | oh |
| 04:11.32 | Citrus | how would i do that |
| 04:11.51 | wps | save the ID of the currently-serving quote and a time stamp in a text file or a database |
| 04:12.03 | Citrus | yes i understand |
| 04:12.04 | Citrus | but |
| 04:12.10 | Citrus | how do i make it save an ID every 15 minutes by itself |
| 04:12.21 | wps | it doesn't do it by itself |
| 04:12.32 | wps | the users visiting your site initiate it |
| 04:12.43 | Citrus | i cant make it go by itself? |
| 04:12.52 | wps | you can, but you don't need to |
| 04:13.02 | Citrus | ok so explain this to me again? |
| 04:13.15 | Citrus | how exactly does it check the time stamp against 15 mins |
| 04:13.22 | DexterTheDragon | when the page loads |
| 04:13.31 | DexterTheDragon | its goes I need a quote |
| 04:13.42 | DexterTheDragon | it looks in the cache file |
| 04:13.47 | Citrus | cache = database right |
| 04:13.49 | wps | each time the page is requested, run a script that checks to see whether the cache is old (ie: if it was cached at 14:13 and it's now 14:16), then query the database for the next quote |
| 04:13.56 | DexterTheDragon | if its less then 15 minutes it uses that one |
| 04:14.11 | DexterTheDragon | if not it randmonly picks a new one and sticks it in the cache file |
| 04:14.17 | Citrus | alright sorry i don't thiink i explained it properly |
| 04:14.18 | DexterTheDragon | cache = file |
| 04:14.26 | Citrus | what i want it to do is |
| 04:14.26 | DexterTheDragon | no you did |
| 04:14.30 | Citrus | let's say it's 12:00 AM |
| 04:14.33 | wps | if the current quote was cached at 14:13 and it's currently 14:14, then don't touch the cache and use the cached quote |
| 04:14.37 | Citrus | maybe someone visits at 12:01 AM |
| 04:14.44 | Citrus | someone else visits at 12:04 AM |
| 04:14.47 | DexterTheDragon | then show them the same one |
| 04:14.52 | Citrus | yep |
| 04:14.55 | Citrus | and it should change at 12:15 AM |
| 04:14.56 | Citrus | for both of them |
| 04:14.58 | Citrus | and everyone else too |
| 04:15.00 | DexterTheDragon | yep |
| 04:15.06 | DexterTheDragon | thats what we just described |
| 04:15.09 | Citrus | i see |
| 04:15.11 | Citrus | i misunderstood |
| 04:15.11 | wps | that will work with what I have described |
| 04:15.22 | Citrus | could you give me some more specific instructions on how i would start |
| 04:16.12 | Citrus | actually |
| 04:16.23 | Citrus | could you enlighten me on how to do it so that it changes without refreshing |
| 04:16.59 | wps | javascript has a function that will run at a set interval |
| 04:17.07 | wps | so you can set it to run a function every minute, for example |
| 04:17.19 | wps | you could have that function check the current time against the cached timestamp |
| 04:17.43 | Citrus | is it serverside? |
| 04:17.47 | wps | no |
| 04:17.52 | Citrus | well that won't work |
| 04:17.56 | wps | javascript runs in the browser |
| 04:17.58 | wps | why not? |
| 04:18.05 | Citrus | wont it change 15 mins |
| 04:18.07 | Citrus | from when u boot up the page |
| 04:18.12 | Citrus | not every 15 mins per server time |
| 04:18.21 | wps | noâ¦Â I didn't say that the javascript will count to 15 and then change |
| 04:18.30 | Citrus | i see |
| 04:18.37 | Citrus | so should i just look in an ajax book for this |
| 04:18.44 | wps | every minute the javascript will run a function that will compare the current time against the cached timestamp (on the server) |
| 04:19.01 | Citrus | sounds good |
| 04:19.09 | Citrus | wanna walk me through it or give me some starting pointers |
| 04:19.19 | wps | that's a lot of extra load on your server though |
| 04:19.28 | Citrus | i see |
| 04:19.31 | Citrus | how do you recommend it be done |
| 04:19.35 | wps | I'm still trying to understand why you need the quotes sync'd up across all visitors |
| 04:19.42 | wps | that's the only way it can be done |
| 04:20.15 | wps | they only way you can have a synchronized experience for all users is if the browser is in constant communication with the server |
| 04:20.17 | Citrus | so it would be a lot easier if it wasn't synced up/ |
| 04:20.19 | wps | s/they/the/ |
| 04:20.35 | wps | it'd be WAY easier if it wasn't sync'd up |
| 04:20.49 | wps | if each user just had a quote rotating every fifteen minutes |
| 04:20.56 | wps | why do you want them sync'd up? |
| 04:21.13 | Citrus | cuz my site is about giving each person their 15 mins of fame |
| 04:21.19 | Citrus | so i figure everyone should be seeing the same thing |
| 04:22.13 | wps | I wouldn't think having things out of sync by five or ten minutes would be bad (over even noticeable) |
| 04:22.36 | wps | just set your script to check every ten minutes instead of one minute and that'll make a world of a difference on your server load |
| 04:23.03 | Citrus | let's see |
| 04:23.06 | Citrus | can i make it so the user stores |
| 04:23.08 | Citrus | the timestamp on their own computer |
| 04:23.15 | Citrus | and it checks it every min |
| 04:23.18 | Citrus | then when the timer is there |
| 04:23.19 | wps | unless you're running some sort of commerce or lottery site where there has to be a change for everyone at a specific moment, I'd recommend not trying to sync things for all visitors |
| 04:23.21 | Citrus | it syncs with server |
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| 04:23.39 | Citrus | what about what i just described |
| 04:24.15 | wps | actually, yes, the javascript would only have to talk to the server on the 15s |
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| 04:24.30 | Citrus | so that could work with nice load management? |
| 04:24.35 | wps | yes |
| 04:24.43 | Citrus | wanna give me some starting pointers? |
| 04:26.01 | wps | you would have a javascript timer that runs a function every minute (running a function every minute is fineâ¦Â it's AJAX every minute that's bad) that checks what time it is a time stamp in a cookie of the last time it changed. If the timestamp in the cookie is 14:13 and it's now 14:16, then it uses AJAX to get the next quote (from the server's cache) |
| 04:26.58 | Citrus | since i dont know any ajax, could you recommend where i begin |
| 04:27.12 | Citrus | i have a book called foundations of ajax |
| 04:27.12 | wps | there are gobs of tutorials |
| 04:27.14 | Citrus | should i just check that out |
| 04:27.18 | wps | google one |
| 04:27.19 | Citrus | or check out specific tutorials online |
| 04:27.20 | wps | and use jQuery |
| 04:27.31 | wps | that's all I can give you tonight |
| 04:27.33 | wps | sorryâ¦Â got to run |
| 04:27.36 | Citrus | alright |
| 04:27.38 | Citrus | thanks a lot for the heklp |
| 04:27.39 | wps | good luck |
| 04:27.40 | Citrus | i appreciate it |
| 04:27.42 | Citrus | help* |
| 04:44.05 | DexterTheDragon | somebody broke jsmith/jsmith-away/Guest79865 again |
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| 14:51.21 | orsonj | ~ie-- |
| 14:52.12 | DexterTheDragon | ~jsmith-- |
| 14:54.48 | orsonj | ~lart jsmith |
| 14:54.48 | ibot | executes killall -HUP jsmith |
| 14:54.59 | orsonj | heh |
| 14:55.11 | jsmith | orsonj: :-( |
| 14:55.19 | jsmith | orsonj: Don't hate me... hate my IRC proxy instead! |
| 14:55.35 | orsonj | ~lart jsmith's IRC proxy |
| 14:55.36 | ibot | keeps mailing jsmith's IRC proxy free America Online CDs until he drowns |
| 14:55.37 | jsmith | (and the guy in Australia who keeps trying to take my nick) |
| 14:56.25 | orsonj | ~lart the Australian nemesis |
| 14:56.25 | ibot | teaches the Australian nemesis that M$ Access is a database. No, really, a database. A real live multi-user... well, ok, not multi-user, but a database. Yeah, that sounds right. |
| 14:56.26 | wps | why don't you email a truckload of those AOL CDs to the squatter that's sitting on my surname domain |
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| 15:35.35 | orsonj | ~ie-- |
| 15:35.53 | orsonj | ~lart all squatters |
| 15:35.53 | ibot | cuts all squatters into thin stripes |
| 15:39.20 | orsonj | I like that one, one stripe for each squatted domain |
| 15:39.20 | orsonj | some of those people are going to be paper thin |
| 15:49.13 | orsonj | ~ie-- |
| 15:59.26 | justincarmony | ~ie-- |
| 16:00.27 | unum | ~ie-- |
| 16:04.13 | unum | ~ie-- |
| 16:06.21 | fungus | "Out for delivery" |
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| 16:10.06 | orsonj | ~ie-- |
| 16:10.13 | orsonj | ~UPS++ |
| 16:12.26 | unum | ~ie-- |
| 16:13.29 | DexterTheDragon | ~UPS-- |
| 16:13.33 | DexterTheDragon | ~ie-- |
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| 16:15.02 | justincarmony | ~ie-- |
| 16:15.06 | fungus | ~fedex++ |
| 16:15.53 | fungus | well, for now fedex++, if they take too long i'll take that karma right back |
| 16:27.09 | fungus | ~fedex++ |
| 16:30.48 | tierra | ~ie-- |
| 16:33.03 | utahcon | I used FedEx this morning... |
| 16:33.12 | utahcon | cheaper than driving to work :D |
| 16:34.48 | DexterTheDragon | utahcon: did you fedex yourself to work? |
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| 16:38.13 | justincarmony | LOL |
| 16:38.28 | justincarmony | I just had a mental picture of utahcon being Fedexed to work |
| 16:46.57 | mindjuju | anybody looking for a job in the UC? |
| 16:47.00 | utahcon | it's a rather large box |
| 16:47.12 | utahcon | mindjuju: does it pay really really really well |
| 16:47.13 | utahcon | ? |
| 16:47.17 | utahcon | $100K + > |
| 16:47.33 | mindjuju | it doesn't say |
| 16:48.01 | utahcon | too bad |
| 16:48.10 | utahcon | does it say the company? |
| 16:49.20 | beandog | utahcon, Convergys |
| 16:49.33 | utahcon | run away |
| 16:49.51 | unum | it work? |
| 16:52.10 | utahcon | being color blind I am not sure... but I think my shirt is a tint of gold |
| 16:52.14 | beandog | utahcon is evil by association |
| 16:52.29 | utahcon | what?! I am evil? Why so? |
| 16:52.36 | beandog | er, unum |
| 16:52.38 | beandog | not utahcon |
| 16:52.43 | utahcon | oh ok |
| 16:52.50 | utahcon | I mean... I probably am evil |
| 16:59.46 | unum | that's not much of a threat today. |
| 16:59.50 | unum | fridays are always slow |
| 17:00.30 | beandog | sample files? |
| 17:00.47 | mindjuju | josephscott, have you heard / use Object Oriented CSS? |
| 17:01.14 | mindjuju | or anybody else in the chan? |
| 17:01.16 | josephscott | saw a sitepoint article about, bit of a stretch to call it OO CSS |
| 17:01.28 | josephscott | it's just another CSS pre-processor |
| 17:01.29 | mindjuju | i'm just seeing it for the firs time |
| 17:01.34 | DexterTheDragon | sounds like ooze |
| 17:01.39 | mindjuju | http://wiki.github.com/stubbornella/oocss |
| 17:01.42 | beandog | mindjuju, OO is a myth |
| 17:01.53 | beandog | and CSS is a hack |
| 17:02.01 | mindjuju | Zoinks! |
| 17:02.04 | mindjuju | i like CSS |
| 17:02.28 | mindjuju | ah internet 1995 |
| 17:02.31 | mindjuju | them were some fun times |
| 17:02.37 | mindjuju | crazy repeating backgrounds |
| 17:02.44 | beandog | yah |
| 17:02.54 | mindjuju | <marque>Hello World!</marquee> |
| 17:03.00 | mindjuju | Kali.net |
| 17:03.04 | fungus | <blink>beandog is annoying</blink> |
| 17:03.22 | beandog | let's bring back web rings |
| 17:04.20 | fungus | Everytime someone creates an animated GIF, God kills a puppy |
| 17:04.31 | beandog | fungus, well, there's too many puppies anyway |
| 17:04.43 | beandog | http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/8664/ring.html#about |
| 17:04.55 | fungus | No way will I click on that link |
| 17:05.08 | fungus | geocities? WTF? hell no |
| 17:05.15 | beandog | you'd love the background. |
| 17:05.55 | beandog | oh my gosh |
| 17:05.57 | fungus | eek! |
| 17:05.58 | beandog | the webring still works, too |
| 17:05.59 | beandog | holy crap. |
| 17:06.01 | fungus | I clicked |
| 17:06.20 | beandog | http://www.geocities.com/kcaj22/ring.html |
| 17:06.21 | beandog | oh man |
| 17:06.24 | beandog | this is even better |
| 17:06.49 | beandog | http://www.geocities.com/kcaj22/ |
| 17:06.52 | beandog | *classic* geocities homepage. |
| 17:08.25 | DexterTheDragon | "This site is setup to be viewed in a minimun of 800 x 600 resolution |
| 17:08.25 | DexterTheDragon | and 256 colors" |
| 17:08.25 | beandog | http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/5467/ |
| 17:08.25 | beandog | my eyes! |
| 17:09.08 | beandog | I can't believe these are still online |
| 17:09.11 | beandog | I wonder if mine is still around. |
| 17:09.26 | fungus | We should all thank Yahoo! for planning the destruction of geocities. |
| 17:09.32 | unum | their days are finally numbered |
| 17:10.32 | beandog | http://www.geocities.com/SouthBeach/Sands/2683/ |
| 17:10.34 | beandog | that one is cool |
| 17:10.49 | thebigdog | i hate to say it but geocities has been replaced with myspace |
| 17:11.05 | beandog | thebigdog, thats true, and theres not much difference |
| 17:11.37 | utahcon | almost had a whole "city" too |
| 17:11.40 | thebigdog | i have always thought of them as the trailer park of the internet |
| 17:11.45 | tierra | not that MySpace is doing all that well right now either... they just laid off 30% of their workforce in the US, and they're laying off just as many internationally very soon |
| 17:12.03 | beandog | man this brings back memories |
| 17:12.32 | utahcon | tierra: that is cause Facebook is the new MySpace |
| 17:12.35 | tierra | oh, I was wrong, it's 66% internationally |
| 17:12.54 | beandog | I can't believe they even have international offices |
| 17:13.01 | beandog | the site isn't that complex. |
| 17:13.07 | beandog | I figured it was 3 guys in t heir basement |
| 17:13.07 | tierra | "The company, which already announced a 30 percent layoff in the States last week, said on Tuesday that it will reduce its overseas staff from 450 to 150 employees and close at least four foreign offices." |
| 17:13.29 | thebigdog | man myspace makes me sick |
| 17:13.51 | tierra | "Combining both layoffs, MySpace's is cutting its total workforce from about 1,950 to 1,150--or by about 41 percent." |
| 17:14.27 | thebigdog | i cant believe they had that many employees |
| 17:14.37 | fungus | myspace is the new, eye gouging, geocities |
| 17:14.39 | beandog | Why would you ever say about $x percent? A percentage is an exact number. |
| 17:14.52 | tierra | fungus: eye, and ear |
| 17:15.05 | fungus | oh yeah, can't forget the ear gouging. |
| 17:15.12 | beandog | okay well, Ive had enough eye-gouging nostalgia for one morning |
| 17:15.25 | utahcon | DexterTheDragon and mindjuju I am in need of something faster, heavier, and techno |
| 17:15.33 | stderr | beandog: MySpace a couple guys in their basement? It was a large company to begin with, and was bought out by News Corp a long time ago. |
| 17:15.54 | beandog | stderr, I know, it just *seems* like the site isn't that complex, really. |
| 17:16.02 | beandog | it baffles me they could have such a large workforce |
| 17:16.04 | utahcon | stderr: but at some point it was 1 or 2 guys |
| 17:16.07 | thebigdog | for fungus - http://lc.fdots.com/cc/lc/f6/f66085e5b2b2d7c897ee64e4ad12d42f.gif |
| 17:16.18 | stderr | utahcon: Nah |
| 17:16.25 | utahcon | most of the myspace employees are moderators and sales people |
| 17:16.30 | fungus | eek, thebigdog made god kill a puppy |
| 17:16.34 | stderr | utahcon: it was started by a bunch of eUniverse guys. They had like 50 people right from the get go. |
| 17:16.43 | stderr | all with lots of money |
| 17:16.49 | beandog | thebigdog, lol |
| 17:17.13 | utahcon | I don't know why but it bugs me when a website is started (especially social) for the purpose of making money. |
| 17:17.38 | thebigdog | its all about making money |
| 17:17.40 | utahcon | and yet I do it everyday :D |
| 17:17.41 | thebigdog | everyone wants it |
| 17:18.01 | utahcon | can't argue that |
| 17:18.24 | thebigdog | i dont blame no one for wanting to make some $$$ |
| 17:18.42 | thebigdog | it is funny what people come up with |
| 17:19.08 | thebigdog | i saw that iphone app that is a crying baby thing you shake to shut it up |
| 17:19.11 | thebigdog | now that is kinda funny |
| 17:19.47 | utahcon | I would like to hope that deep inside before making money is a major thought a site is created for a purpose... other than money. Then the monetization is brought in... for example Twitter... there is no way those guys will ever make money |
| 17:20.09 | utahcon | thebigdog: didn't that app get rejected after the article was posted? |
| 17:20.25 | thebigdog | yeah |
| 17:20.29 | thebigdog | that is even funnier |
| 17:20.51 | thebigdog | utahcon: i think twitter could make some money |
| 17:20.54 | thebigdog | just not too much |
| 17:21.18 | thebigdog | i think they could make some money with research |
| 17:21.35 | utahcon | thebigdog: first they would have to keep their service stable |
| 17:21.39 | thebigdog | especially trend type research |
| 17:21.59 | beandog | utahcon, heh, yah |
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| 17:54.57 | orsonj | ~ie-- |
| 17:59.27 | orsonj | ~ie-- |
| 18:01.30 | unum | ~ie-- |
| 18:33.09 | justincarmony | ~ie-- |
| 18:33.30 | orsonj | ~ie-- |
| 18:44.30 | unum | ~ie-- |
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| 19:09.35 | orsonj | ~karma ie |
| 19:09.36 | ibot | ie has karma of -219 |
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| 19:28.37 | justincarmony | LOL |
| 19:28.40 | justincarmony | http://screencast.com/t/gxaJ2yybnJn |
| 19:30.22 | DexterTheDragon | justincarmony: how many notices did you get on the page? |
| 19:30.33 | justincarmony | around 200 |
| 19:31.13 | DexterTheDragon | when I took over the code from the "bad programmer" I managed to get over 1000 on one page |
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| 20:04.54 | utahcon | that was weird. |
| 20:34.49 | mindjuju | ~rlart |
| 20:34.49 | ibot | whacks brasto upside the head |
| 20:35.06 | mindjuju | ~bdhit dexterthedragon |
| 20:35.17 | mindjuju | ~hit dexterthedragon |
| 20:35.27 | mindjuju | ibot |
| 20:35.35 | mindjuju | ~welcome ibot |
| 20:37.20 | DexterTheDragon | still broken |
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| 20:43.37 | mindjuju | ~dtdhit dexterthedragon |
| 20:44.07 | DexterTheDragon | ~stupid ibot |
| 20:46.37 | mindjuju | its being worked on |
| 20:49.53 | mindjuju | ~bdhit dexterthedragon |
| 20:49.54 | ibot | ACTION and mindjuju demonstrates the Iron Two Killers Hand on dexterthedragon's forehead |
| 20:50.07 | mindjuju | ~dtdhit dexterthedragon |
| 20:50.36 | DexterTheDragon | ~dwhit mindjuju |
| 20:50.37 | ibot | ACTION leaps to Sunrise Claw of the Cruel Snake on mindjuju |
| 20:50.53 | DexterTheDragon | ~asplode mindjuju |
| 20:50.54 | ibot | mindjuju head asplode, k thx |
| 20:51.00 | DexterTheDragon | nice |
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| 20:51.06 | mindjuju | yeah, but there is nothing like being hit by ibot attacking in dexterthedragon mode |
| 20:51.13 | mindjuju | ~dtdhit dexterthedragon |
| 20:51.14 | ibot | ACTION stikes at dexterthedragon with the fire of the cat seizure blinding dexterthedragon in one eye! |
| 20:51.23 | mindjuju | awesome! |
| 20:51.45 | mindjuju | let's see, who else needs a good hit |
| 20:51.50 | mindjuju | ~dtdhit utahcon |
| 20:51.51 | ibot | ACTION stikes at utahcon with the vulgar dragon technique blinding utahcon in one eye! |
| 20:51.57 | *** kick/#uphpu [mindjuju!n=thebigdo@207.135.132.13] by thebigdog (thebigdog) |
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| 20:52.10 | DexterTheDragon | ~dtdhit justincarmony |
| 20:52.11 | ibot | ACTION stikes at justincarmony with the ruinous sun scratch knocks out justincarmony and injures tierra! |
| 20:52.20 | justincarmony | ? :P |
| 20:52.23 | mindjuju | thx thebigdog |
| 20:52.27 | thebigdog | hehe |
| 20:52.47 | thebigdog | sorry was being a little cautious of the flying fire cat seizure |
| 20:52.58 | mindjuju | yeah, got to watch out for that |
| 20:53.05 | mindjuju | k, i'm out for another hour and a haf |
| 20:53.06 | justincarmony | ~lart DexterTheDragon |
| 20:53.06 | ibot | farts in DexterTheDragon's general direction |
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| 21:02.14 | utahcon | !lart DexterTheDragon |
| 21:02.50 | utahcon | !lart DexterTheDragon |
| 21:02.56 | utahcon | something is wrong |
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| 21:05.26 | DexterTheDragon | ~lart utahcon |
| 21:05.26 | ibot | squeezes utahcon till utahcon turns blue like papa smurf |
| 21:05.35 | utahcon | w00t |
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| 21:55.04 | brasto | ~whack mindjuju |
| 21:55.05 | ibot | ACTION whacks mindjuju upside the head. |
| 22:03.39 | DexterTheDragon | ~rlart |
| 22:03.40 | ibot | chops fungus in half with a free AOL CD |
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| 22:34.36 | stderr | If I was a serial killer, I would target devs and sys admins who used FTP as a distribution service |
| 22:34.43 | stderr | just sayin'. Keep your eyes open. |
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| 22:49.59 | mindjuju | hey, yogurts got the good bacteria, right? |
| 22:50.08 | cro | yes |
| 22:50.20 | cro | but my chiropractor says it's not really enough if you just came of an antibiotic |
| 22:50.37 | mindjuju | do you think 2 things of yoplait would kill me if i brought them for breakfast, but forgot about them cause i was swamped as i got here |
| 22:50.44 | mindjuju | and forgot to refridge them |
| 22:50.48 | cro | is it hot in the office? |
| 22:50.57 | mindjuju | 70s |
| 22:51.08 | cro | prob not an issue, I don't think |
| 22:52.23 | stderr | well yogurt is good to take as a supplement to antibiotics since it decreases some antibiotic side-effects |
| 22:52.38 | stderr | mindjuju: if it smells nice, don't think twice! |
| 22:53.00 | mindjuju | :) |
| 22:58.38 | justincarmony | panic mode, eh utahcon ? :P |
| 23:00.23 | orsonj | ~ie-- |
| 23:07.46 | justincarmony | ~karma ie |
| 23:07.46 | ibot | ie has karma of -220 |
| 23:20.35 | macnewbold | ~yow |
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| 23:29.19 | mindjuju | ~dtdhit macnewbold |
| 23:29.20 | ibot | ACTION stikes at macnewbold with the evil rooster chop knocks out macnewbold and injures mastergunns! |
| 23:29.54 | stderr | it's amazing how the 'hit' meme has propagated over the years |
| 23:30.56 | herlo | ~hit stderr |
| 23:30.56 | ibot | ACTION punches stderr. |
| 23:33.57 | stderr | ~tittytwister herlo |
| 23:38.15 | herlo | heh |
| 23:38.40 | herlo | stderr: veruus told me to do it... |
| 23:39.06 | stderr | that son of a... |
| 23:39.24 | herlo | yup |
| 23:40.13 | stderr | is he actually around you? |
| 23:40.29 | herlo | not right now |
| 23:40.38 | herlo | he said that yesterday |
| 23:40.42 | stderr | haha |
| 23:41.01 | stderr | wonder if he's going to DC this year |
| 23:41.03 | herlo | i was justbusy |
| 23:43.18 | herlo | he is |
| 23:43.44 | stderr | ah nice |
