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| 00:24.05 | influx | w/ 2 |
| 00:28.05 | macnewbold | ~yow |
| 00:29.44 | influx | Hey. |
| 00:43.19 | influx | http://continue.utah.edu/edtech/detail.php?title=php+level+1&subject=edtec&catalog=520§ion=001&term=1096 |
| 00:43.23 | influx | erch |
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| 00:43.47 | influx | http://tinyurl.com/uofuphp1 |
| 00:44.10 | influx | three eight-hour sessions |
| 00:44.39 | influx | for %700+ |
| 00:44.43 | influx | err, $700+ |
| 01:35.57 | influx | http://bin.cakephp.org/view/899680867 |
| 01:36.15 | herlo | mindjuju: ping |
| 01:36.46 | influx | I'm having problems with the heredoc |
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| 01:45.11 | influx | Utah_Dave: ping |
| 01:45.22 | Utah_Dave | influx: pong! |
| 01:45.34 | influx | :D |
| 01:45.39 | influx | Do you have a spare minute? |
| 01:46.10 | influx | I'm having trouble with something in the heredoc ($_SERVER['PHP_SELF']) here: http://bin.cakephp.org/view/899680867 |
| 01:46.19 | influx | Not sure what to do. |
| 01:54.45 | Utah_Dave | ok, let me see |
| 01:56.25 | Utah_Dave | what are you trying to accomplish? POST back to itself? |
| 01:56.47 | influx | Yea. |
| 02:01.27 | Utah_Dave | what is showing up when you execute that? |
| 02:01.41 | influx | Parse error: syntax error, unexpected T_ENCAPSED_AND_WHITESPACE, expecting T_STRING or T_VARIABLE or T_NUM_STRING in /Library/WebServer/Documents/cake_install/app/webroot/playground/php/mysql/temporary.php on line 100 |
| 02:04.30 | Utah_Dave | I found a forum where someone suggested doing $action = $_SERVER['PHP_SELF'] |
| 02:04.36 | Utah_Dave | then putting $action in the form |
| 02:05.19 | influx | Did that. Prints out a blank, oddly. |
| 02:05.26 | influx | One sec. |
| 02:05.34 | influx | I'll pastebin the previous incarnation of the page. |
| 02:05.36 | influx | It works in that one. |
| 02:12.20 | influx | http://bin.cakephp.org/view/1630034221 |
| 02:12.27 | influx | Forgot I was getting it. |
| 02:13.54 | Utah_Dave | so you're doing the $action = $_SERVER['PHP_SELF'] outside the heredoc and then putting $action in the heredoc and you're getting nothing in the action argument in the form? |
| 02:15.00 | Utah_Dave | oh, try putting curly braces around the whole variable |
| 02:15.19 | influx | Oh, wait. |
| 02:15.22 | influx | *facepalm* |
| 02:16.58 | influx | I was defining $action inside the conditional for the PREV button, but not conditional for the NEXT button. |
| 02:18.06 | influx | So replacing $_SERVER['PHP_SELF'] with $action in both would result in the second call of $action to show up as blank since it wasn't defined for the second conditional. |
| 02:18.19 | influx | So, I defined $action outside the conditionals instead and it works. |
| 02:18.53 | influx | Alright. Everything's dandy now. |
| 02:21.05 | Utah_Dave | oh, good |
| 02:22.23 | herlo | ssssh, you guys are supposed to be sleeping already. It's after 5pm |
| 02:22.36 | influx | herlo must have been seeing wife swap |
| 02:22.46 | herlo | lol, nope. Dont' watch tv |
| 02:22.46 | influx | Don't you be gettin' any ideas from TLC. |
| 02:22.54 | herlo | lol |
| 02:23.05 | utahcon | TLC is evil |
| 02:23.09 | utahcon | wife watches it all the time |
| 02:23.10 | influx | Next up is making it so that the forward button disappears when there wouldn't be any more listings on the next page |
| 02:23.14 | influx | ha |
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| 14:23.18 | redroy | Morning everyone... I'm working with mysql through ssh for the first time... is there a command to list all databases? I can't find much online about it. (i'm logged in and have the mysql prompt) |
| 14:23.30 | herlo | show databases; |
| 14:24.56 | redroy | well, that's way to obvious for ssh ... thanks! :) |
| 14:25.00 | mindjuju | ~apb herlo |
| 14:25.01 | ibot | ACTION summons Duane Lee to rough up herlo |
| 14:25.03 | eggyknap | On that note, a PostgreSQL committer friend of mine recently wrote a patch so that the PostgreSQL client would respond to the "show databases;" command (which doesn't exist in PostgreSQL) with a help page showing you how to do what you really wanted. |
| 14:25.09 | herlo | mindjuju: hi |
| 14:25.15 | mindjuju | hey |
| 14:25.21 | mindjuju | say you sent a ping |
| 14:25.58 | herlo | mindjuju: yeah, twice over the past two days :) |
| 14:26.15 | mindjuju | sorry, having connectivity issues |
| 14:26.18 | herlo | mindjuju: it was about utos design... |
| 14:26.38 | mindjuju | i need an ubuntu disk, will be back in town for a couple hors on friday |
| 14:26.52 | jsmith | eggyknap: What's wrong with \d? |
| 14:27.03 | herlo | nw, yeah, I forgot you were on vacation, it can wait |
| 14:27.13 | mindjuju | nah, no worries |
| 14:27.23 | mindjuju | we can talk, but i got a conf call here in a minute |
| 14:27.41 | herlo | well, I've gotta head to work shortly, maybe later on |
| 14:27.52 | eggyknap | jsmith: nothing. it's just that pgsql people always get questions from mysql people about "how do I see all my databases | tables | etc. in PostgreSQL?" |
| 14:28.34 | jsmith | eggyknap: Gotcha |
| 14:29.18 | herlo | eggyknap: yeah, learning a bit about postgresql, like it so far |
| 14:29.48 | herlo | heading into work (aka coffeeshop) and will be back in about 1hr... |
| 14:30.08 | eggyknap | herlo: embrace the dark side :) |
| 14:32.07 | jsmith | herlo: The grass really is greener over here :-) |
| 14:32.30 | eggyknap | Clearly greener. And it mows itself. |
| 14:32.37 | eggyknap | Well, if you have autovacuum configured right :) |
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| 15:01.03 | PoeticIntensity | mornin', mgeary. |
| 15:01.13 | mgeary | morning |
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| 15:05.19 | itimber | wassup guys |
| 15:05.25 | bween | wave |
| 15:06.22 | unum | I've been reading ender's shadow |
| 15:06.48 | unum | I didn't read ender's game until I was 20. I really would have taken to the book if I had read it when I was younger. |
| 15:07.13 | wps | I read until I got to the part about the kid hanging out on his bunk naked |
| 15:07.19 | wps | and then I put it down |
| 15:07.40 | unum | you didn't get to the part about the girl hanging out on her bunk naked? |
| 15:07.42 | bween | interesting to hear the whole thing from Bean's persepctive. |
| 15:07.53 | unum | ya |
| 15:08.10 | unum | I accidently read shadow of the hegemon first |
| 15:09.23 | bween | I read the whole series when I was in Jr High. I dont really remember what parts of the story is in what book |
| 15:09.56 | unum | only's ender's part was written when I was in jr high |
| 15:10.02 | unum | i wish I wouldh have read it then |
| 15:10.37 | unum | he came out with a new one that takes place between ender's game and speaker for the dead |
| 15:10.59 | bween | yeah? whats it called? |
| 15:11.05 | unum | ender in exile |
| 15:11.25 | unum | my friends liked it. I haven't read it yet. |
| 15:11.38 | bween | ill have to see if its at the library :x |
| 15:12.11 | unum | i'll probably wait until it's mass market and pick up then. ender's game is the only book I've ever read more than once. |
| 15:12.19 | unum | well other than comic books and scriptures |
| 15:12.59 | bween | fair. Never got though the old book of mormon though. |
| 15:14.50 | unum | actually I've read the great divorce atleast twice and the first harry potter twice. |
| 15:15.11 | unum | there's some plato I'll probably reread as well. |
| 15:15.15 | unum | some day |
| 15:15.20 | unum | so much to read so little time |
| 15:16.09 | bween | yeah, except when my power went out yesterday. . . Then I realized it was sad I had nothing to do without power. |
| 15:16.35 | unum | my allergies have been killing me so I've been reading a lot lately |
| 15:16.51 | unum | I even had to take a sick day last week |
| 15:17.05 | bween | from allergies! geez thats nuts |
| 15:17.10 | unum | ya |
| 15:17.16 | unum | I've never had them that bad before |
| 15:17.38 | unum | I'll probably try and get threw some more cs lewis after I finish ender's shadow |
| 15:18.41 | bween | I should probably read books on python or like tutorials on Magento, but the other ones are much better. |
| 15:20.42 | unum | I'm not much of a nerd these days. |
| 15:21.00 | bween | awe, what happened. |
| 15:21.28 | unum | I think being away from school I had a hard time find other nerds and had to adapt. |
| 15:22.32 | bween | eh, life happens. Been trying to embrace the inner nerd lately. |
| 15:27.09 | unum | I forgot to bring my breakfast |
| 15:27.36 | redroy | ok, another ssh question but for apache... on a basic install where would I look for adjusting the 'www' force. It's not a mod_rewrite in .htaccess |
| 15:28.11 | redroy | I'm not that familiar with apache... so I'm hunting for a httpd config I think |
| 15:28.22 | unum | ? |
| 15:28.38 | unum | wwhat do you mean by www force |
| 15:29.15 | redroy | well, the website is currently forcing www in the domain... it's not php, it's not .htaccess ... I want to turn it off but I can't find it |
| 15:29.41 | itimber | anyone try, or currently use, junkemailfilter.com? |
| 15:30.07 | itimber | redroy: it's probably in the HTTP conf file |
| 15:30.12 | itimber | what server are you on? |
| 15:30.41 | redroy | lamp |
| 15:30.44 | unum | redroy: by forcing do you mean if I type example.com it becomes www.example.com or that only www.example.com works? |
| 15:31.33 | redroy | unum, typing example.com becomes www.example.com (sorry for the cryptic question) |
| 15:31.33 | itimber | is it a shared host? do you have root access to the whole server? |
| 15:31.55 | unum | which distro? |
| 15:31.55 | fungus | redroy: that is called a redirect. |
| 15:32.09 | redroy | ah, thanks... long morning. |
| 15:32.21 | fungus | Are both example.com and www.example.com hosted by the same server? |
| 15:32.59 | redroy | I assume, I don't know much. I do have root. |
| 15:33.21 | unum | redroy: which distro? |
| 15:33.24 | fungus | If so, find the <VirtuaHost> definition for example.com, and look for a directive named Redirect or RedirectMatch |
| 15:34.05 | redroy | unum: what's distro? |
| 15:34.19 | unum | redroy: which version of linux are you running? |
| 15:34.43 | redroy | oh, I'm not sure... is there a command that would tell? |
| 15:35.14 | redroy | fungus: I'm not sure where to dig to locate that config file... sorry, I'm retarded when it comes to sys admin |
| 15:35.41 | fungus | Generally you would find it in /etc/apache |
| 15:36.00 | fungus | or /etc/apache2 |
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| 15:36.23 | unum | on redhat it's httpd |
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| 15:36.29 | fungus | there are usually many files that make up the whole config |
| 15:36.35 | unum | that's why I was asking which distro he had |
| 15:37.12 | fungus | Most sys admins create a separate file per virtualhost so looking at filenames is useful |
| 15:37.34 | unum | s/most/experienced |
| 15:38.01 | redroy | there's no apache dir under etc |
| 15:38.14 | itimber | is there an httpd? |
| 15:38.35 | redroy | there is but both files in appear to be blank... |
| 15:39.00 | itimber | what are their names? |
| 15:39.21 | redroy | sorry directories... conf, conf.d |
| 15:39.58 | redroy | I'm sure there's some extra weird thing going on... |
| 15:40.00 | unum | there should be a /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf file |
| 15:40.10 | fungus | redroy: did you inherit the admin job? or is there someone you can ask for specifics? |
| 15:40.36 | carmony | Good morning, how is everyone? |
| 15:40.45 | unum | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:40.51 | bween | wave |
| 15:40.52 | unum | that way help find the crazy stuff |
| 15:40.54 | itimber | redroy wears a lot of hats :) |
| 15:40.58 | unum | carmony: good morning carmony |
| 15:41.00 | itimber | morning carmony |
| 15:41.25 | redroy | holy crap I'm retarded this morning! yes there is a conf/httpd.conf |
| 15:41.27 | redroy | I'll check it out |
| 15:41.46 | redroy | I inherit by choice, I want to learn as much as possible... I lack most in sys admin |
| 15:42.00 | unum | redroy: you may also want to run cat /etc/redhat-release and write that down for future reference |
| 15:42.52 | redroy | cool, thanks! |
| 15:43.42 | unum | out of curiosity what does it say? |
| 15:45.55 | redroy | Ok, I found the vhost setup in there... I don't see any type of redirect |
| 15:46.14 | redroy | but there's not a serveralias either... which it should need right? |
| 15:46.27 | unum | correct |
| 15:47.23 | unum | the redirect would be seperate from the vhost |
| 15:47.44 | unum | probably in its own vhost |
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| 15:49.40 | redroy | so regardless of the alias it would still redirect |
| 15:50.06 | fungus | You are looking for a VirtualHost that has a ServerName or ServerAlias of example.com |
| 15:50.34 | fungus | You probably have a separate VirtualHost from www.example.com |
| 15:50.59 | redroy | I found the vhost for www.example.com |
| 15:51.31 | redroy | but the other vhosts are not related |
| 15:51.52 | unum | there should be a vhost for example.com |
| 15:52.06 | unum | unless as someone pointed out earlier it points to a different server |
| 15:52.11 | mgeary | hey, i can't remember how to configure screen on OS X such that the terminal scrollbars allow you to view the scrollback |
| 15:52.15 | unum | you main want to check the first |
| 15:52.45 | fungus | redroy: you may also want to confirm that example.com is on the same webserver too. |
| 15:52.54 | mgeary | it works fine with C-a [, but i know it's possible to set up so it uses the scrollbars. Anyone have that info? |
| 15:52.57 | fungus | Just lookup the IPs for both example.com and www.example.com |
| 15:53.41 | fungus | mgeary: I didn't know that was possible, but sounds awesome. I want to learn. |
| 16:00.15 | redroy | If I try a lookup it just returns without www either way |
| 16:00.31 | unum | how are you trying to look it up? |
| 16:00.35 | fungus | lookup using nslookup or host |
| 16:04.22 | redroy | ok, yeah IP's are same |
| 16:05.40 | fungus | mgeary: try this in your .screenrc I don't have a mac handy, and it works on my linux box. |
| 16:05.42 | fungus | http://pastebin.com/m5bd8d7d2 |
| 16:07.01 | fungus | redroy: if there is no VirtualHost with a ServerName or ServerAlias of example.com then the "default" VirtualHost applies. That is the first VirtualHost in the file. |
| 16:07.51 | fungus | Perhaps that first VirtualHost has some RewriteRules that redirect to www.example.com |
| 16:08.04 | redroy | ah, that would be www.example.com |
| 16:08.15 | redroy | so adding the ServerAlias should fix it up... correct? |
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| 16:08.31 | fungus | If that my guess was correct, then yes. |
| 16:09.17 | fungus | but if there is another host with the name example.com then it might clash, and not work. |
| 16:09.42 | redroy | wouldn't it be in this same list if it was a vhost? |
| 16:10.03 | redroy | or can they be set in other files... |
| 16:10.21 | fungus | unless this config file includes any other config files. |
| 16:10.29 | unum | it could be in any file in those directories to be hones |
| 16:10.30 | unum | t |
| 16:10.46 | unum | it could be in conf.d/ |
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| 16:10.59 | redroy | crap pancake |
| 16:11.03 | redroy | I'll check conf.d |
| 16:11.06 | unum | grep is your friend |
| 16:11.28 | fungus | You can search through the main httpd.conf file for "Include" statements to see all the directories it looks for. |
| 16:14.00 | redroy | Ok, I think I'm going to add the alias and see if that works... can I reboot apache from ssh? |
| 16:15.44 | fungus | yes |
| 16:15.53 | fungus | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:15.57 | fungus | or something like that |
| 16:16.52 | redroy | cool, thanks for your help guys... even with my vague runarounds. uphpu rocks! |
| 16:17.53 | bween | oh! |
| 16:17.54 | bween | http://classicfun.ws/wp-content/uploads/the-real-peter-griffin.jpg |
| 16:19.34 | xtrementl | haha |
| 16:20.09 | carmony | svn up |
| 16:20.11 | carmony | bleh |
| 16:20.26 | jsmith | carmony: Having another Monday? |
| 16:21.02 | utahcon | A revision 301. |
| 16:21.13 | carmony | lol |
| 16:21.19 | carmony | more like revision 10416 |
| 16:21.25 | utahcon | lol |
| 16:21.53 | carmony | I lied, we're on revision 10442 |
| 16:24.09 | carmony | they need a betaloft / cowork thing here in ogden |
| 16:25.17 | unum | carmony: you found a new business venture :) |
| 16:25.21 | carmony | lol |
| 16:25.35 | carmony | that requires some capital |
| 16:25.38 | carmony | which I'm short on atm ;) |
| 16:25.53 | mgeary | fungus: looks like that did it for me as well. thanks |
| 16:26.19 | fungus | np, I learned something too. I've always wanted to be able to do that. |
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| 16:47.07 | carmony | hrm |
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| 17:09.53 | SunSparc | DexterTheDragon: I am liking that Tolgar track. |
| 17:10.42 | DexterTheDragon | SunSparc: http://www.tolgar.com/djmixes/ has his other mixes |
| 17:11.13 | DexterTheDragon | Consonant Dissonance is my other fav |
| 17:11.15 | SunSparc | Oh, nice. :) |
| 17:12.50 | SunSparc | Wow, the files are huge. |
| 17:13.18 | DexterTheDragon | thats cause each one is an hour+ mix |
| 17:13.36 | SunSparc | Wow |
| 17:13.48 | SunSparc | I have a lot of listening ahead of me... |
| 17:15.05 | fungus | ugh, an hour+ of uns uns uns. Talk about headache |
| 17:15.31 | SunSparc | heh |
| 17:15.34 | SunSparc | ~IE-- |
| 17:16.02 | SunSparc | Only for those that do not enjoy techno. |
| 17:16.29 | DexterTheDragon | its soothing my headache |
| 17:23.22 | fungus | ~ie-- |
| 17:27.08 | SunSparc | ~IE-- |
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| 17:28.27 | unum | ~ie-- |
| 17:29.05 | mgeary | ~dogpile ie |
| 17:29.12 | SunSparc | heh |
| 17:29.24 | SunSparc | ~IE-- |
| 17:29.29 | SunSparc | ~lart IE |
| 17:29.29 | ibot | breaks out the Hoover and sucks up IE |
| 17:30.00 | SunSparc | Something about daily IE beatings makes me smile... |
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| 17:37.08 | thebigdog | quiet day today? |
| 17:38.03 | SunSparc | ~makesomenoise |
| 17:42.23 | utahcon | considering working on my presentation |
| 17:44.07 | carmony | man |
| 17:44.13 | DexterTheDragon | girl |
| 17:44.18 | carmony | I just watched the gameplay video for diablo III |
| 17:44.25 | carmony | I want to play it now |
| 17:44.26 | carmony | so bad |
| 17:47.16 | SunSparc | Anyone need a job? http://tinyurl.com/lpbjj3 |
| 17:48.44 | unum | wow. what a hoax. |
| 17:48.50 | utahcon | no doubt |
| 17:49.32 | unum | there's a guy we hired out of #utah that was doing video game testing |
| 17:49.43 | unum | they stopped paying him a few months ago... |
| 17:49.45 | unum | so we got him |
| 17:49.46 | DexterTheDragon | so I have to pay a membership fee of 39 dollars to get a job.... |
| 18:01.00 | thebigdog | that is funny...and when you try to leave they try to get you a membership by purchasing some other crap |
| 18:01.38 | DexterTheDragon | I enjoyed that too |
| 18:01.48 | carmony | ~ie-- |
| 18:01.52 | carmony | ~karma ie |
| 18:01.52 | ibot | ie has karma of -120 |
| 18:01.55 | carmony | LOL ;) |
| 18:02.10 | SunSparc | Woot! |
| 18:02.13 | SunSparc | ~ie-- |
| 18:07.06 | fungus | ~ie-- |
| 18:07.20 | fungus | ~karma perl |
| 18:07.21 | ibot | perl has karma of 1 |
| 18:07.25 | fungus | ~perl-- |
| 18:07.37 | utahcon | ~karma python |
| 18:07.37 | ibot | python has karma of 11 |
| 18:07.47 | fungus | ~python++ |
| 18:07.56 | utahcon | ~karma ruby |
| 18:07.56 | ibot | ruby has karma of -1 |
| 18:08.03 | utahcon | ~karma c++ |
| 18:08.03 | ibot | c++ has karma of -1 |
| 18:08.39 | DexterTheDragon | ~c++++ |
| 18:08.47 | DexterTheDragon | ~karma c++ |
| 18:08.47 | ibot | c++ has neutral karma |
| 18:08.49 | stderr | ruby++ |
| 18:08.51 | DexterTheDragon | huh |
| 18:09.03 | DexterTheDragon | ~karma c |
| 18:09.03 | ibot | c has karma of 10 |
| 18:09.25 | SunSparc | ~karma php |
| 18:09.26 | ibot | php has neutral karma |
| 18:09.34 | SunSparc | ~karma objective c |
| 18:09.34 | ibot | objective c has neutral karma |
| 18:10.23 | fungus | ~karma SunSparc |
| 18:10.23 | ibot | sunsparc has karma of 11 |
| 18:10.31 | utahcon | ~php++ |
| 18:10.36 | utahcon | ~karma php |
| 18:10.36 | ibot | php has karma of 1 |
| 18:10.51 | utahcon | this is a php channel... we should pimp php a little more |
| 18:11.52 | carmony | lol |
| 18:12.05 | carmony | ~karma asp.net |
| 18:12.05 | ibot | asp.net has neutral karma |
| 18:13.03 | fungus | ~karma .net |
| 18:13.03 | ibot | .net has neutral karma |
| 18:13.12 | fungus | ~.net-- |
| 18:21.20 | SunSparc | Here is your daily lunar commute: http://www6.cet.edu/copper/winners/09/Monday_Morning_Final.jpg |
| 18:24.43 | SunSparc | ~php++ |
| 18:25.00 | SunSparc | ~objective c++ |
| 18:25.01 | fungus | http://www.php.net/manual/en/control-structures.goto.php |
| 18:25.05 | fungus | ~php-- |
| 18:25.13 | SunSparc | fungus: heh, yeah, saw that. |
| 18:25.33 | xtrementl | yeah way to go back to horrible spaghetti code |
| 18:25.52 | SunSparc | Looks like they did not approve my "note". |
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| 18:34.00 | stderr | I sparked an epic troll thread on reddit due to PHP's goto |
| 18:35.00 | xtrementl | fungus: classic |
| 18:35.46 | fungus | probably, eurythmics are popular for crappy remixes |
| 18:35.53 | xtrementl | haha |
| 18:36.09 | fungus | don't forget the remakes too. |
| 18:36.15 | xtrementl | ick |
| 18:38.27 | stderr | xtrement: everytime I see your nick, I can't help but think of "excrement". I'm sorry. |
| 18:38.52 | xtrementl | lol that's kinda the point anymore |
| 18:38.56 | fungus | lol, I do too, but it's fun anyway |
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| 18:41.50 | fungus | this rain is depressing, but it sure makes fun playlists. |
| 18:43.03 | fungus | lol, called searching for rain, and hit play. |
| 18:43.11 | utahcon | ah |
| 18:43.17 | utahcon | what player do you use fungus? |
| 18:43.29 | fungus | just rhythmbox |
| 18:43.47 | xtrementl | brave soul |
| 18:44.47 | utahcon | xtrementl: player of choice? |
| 18:44.48 | fungus | rhythmbox isn't so bad, and it's got a decent API for python plugins |
| 18:44.48 | xtrementl | currently, amarok.. especially like the global key shortcuts |
| 18:45.09 | fungus | I got global shortcuts in rhythmbox. they even work with my multimedia keyboard |
| 18:45.21 | xtrementl | haha perhaps i hadn't looked into that |
| 18:45.34 | xtrementl | for the record.. i still have it launching when i plug in my ipod |
| 18:47.50 | carmony | ok, what do I want to eat... |
| 18:48.25 | xtrementl | tv dinner |
| 18:48.47 | stderr | salisbury steak nom |
| 18:48.54 | xtrementl | nom nom nom |
| 18:49.25 | utahcon | nom nom nom |
| 18:49.36 | fungus | utahcon: I used to use Exaile for a while, it's pretty good too. |
| 18:49.44 | stderr | Exaile sucks! |
| 18:49.49 | fungus | lol |
| 18:50.04 | utahcon | stderr: player of choice? |
| 18:50.05 | xtrementl | stderr: i agree.. i used it for a while and it would _completely_ lock up when i resumed from a locked screen |
| 18:50.14 | stderr | I kid... |
| 18:50.15 | stderr | >_> |
| 18:50.16 | stderr | <_< |
| 18:50.27 | stderr | utahcon: I use iTunes |
| 18:51.23 | stderr | back in my Linux workstation/laptop years I used Amarok, then Exaile |
| 18:51.25 | synic | "< xtrementl> stderr: i agree.. i used it for a while and it would _completely_ lock up when i resumed from a locked screen" |
| 18:51.28 | fungus | banshee uses an sqlite backend for the library which is cool, too bad it's a c#/mono nightmare |
| 18:51.29 | synic | that makes absolutely no sense |
| 18:52.11 | stderr | :D |
| 18:52.14 | synic | but I'll just make this comment. Exaile doesn't connect to any sort of screensaver at all, so I don't know wtf. |
| 18:52.30 | xtrementl | yeah, probably less the player than a messed up config or something; but i haven't had any probs with anything else |
| 18:52.38 | xtrementl | but i just have to be a hater :) |
| 18:53.26 | synic | :P |
| 18:53.45 | xtrementl | synic: preferred player? |
| 18:53.57 | stderr | (synic wrote/writes Exaile) |
| 18:54.04 | stderr | (so I'll assume it's his favorite) |
| 18:55.11 | synic | ^ |
| 18:55.42 | xtrementl | haha! |
| 18:56.34 | utahcon | well being the kind of guy I am, I am going to try out Exaile this week :D |
| 18:56.48 | synic | let me know what you think |
| 18:56.52 | synic | unless it's negative |
| 18:56.58 | synic | then let someone else know what you think |
| 18:57.00 | xtrementl | lol!.. my appologies |
| 18:57.03 | synic | (only kidding) :) |
| 18:57.12 | synic | nah, negative feedback is always welcome |
| 18:57.16 | xtrementl | i love the UI though, if only amarok would have a better one |
| 18:57.22 | DexterTheDragon | and then ignored |
| 18:57.35 | synic | I'm just not sure how the screensaver lock could even happen, let alone how to fix it |
| 18:57.57 | xtrementl | uhm.. it's ubuntu x64 8.04 if that helps |
| 18:58.12 | xtrementl | i want to reformat this machine and put like kubuntu on it.. maybe i'll try that again and see hwo that goes |
| 18:58.31 | synic | pick 32bit :) |
| 18:58.42 | xtrementl | yeap.. i agree |
| 18:58.47 | synic | 64bit *still* seems somewhat broken |
| 18:59.01 | xtrementl | i use that at home.. but i thought i'd have a go with 64 here and haven't had working flash among other things in ages lol |
| 18:59.07 | xtrementl | have to use virtualbox |
| 19:00.41 | fungus | I got flash working in 9.04 64-bit. it worked easy |
| 19:00.49 | xtrementl | i believe it |
| 19:00.54 | DexterTheDragon | fungus: adobe or gnash? |
| 19:00.56 | xtrementl | 8.04 not so good |
| 19:01.19 | fungus | adobe |
| 19:01.50 | DexterTheDragon | thats still alpha isn't it? |
| 19:01.56 | fungus | nope |
| 19:01.58 | fungus | http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html |
| 19:02.10 | fungus | err, yes it is |
| 19:02.49 | utahcon | the one in labs is |
| 19:03.03 | fungus | it works fine. |
| 19:03.09 | utahcon | version 10.0.22.87 is not alpha |
| 19:03.17 | utahcon | and works ;) |
| 19:03.42 | fungus | oh that's the version I have |
| 19:05.18 | fungus | I just had to kill the one that comes in the repository, it used some nasty nspluginwrapper that sucked big time. |
| 19:05.58 | xtrementl | yes yes it does |
| 19:06.10 | DexterTheDragon | I'm rockin 9,0,115,0 |
| 19:07.56 | synic | xtrementl: I was just messing around, if that's what you're talking about :) |
| 19:07.57 | fungus | I have several other issues with 64-bit though |
| 19:09.22 | synic | ok, time for a nap. |
| 19:09.27 | xtrementl | hear hear |
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| 19:38.22 | jsmith | thebigdog: Good choice! We all need a little more guitar today! |
| 19:40.02 | thebigdog | definitely |
| 19:40.30 | thebigdog | i am looking forward to getting a copy of chickenfoot |
| 19:40.34 | thebigdog | it sounds so good |
| 19:41.24 | thebigdog | that brings 2 of my favorite musicians together |
| 20:02.56 | beandog | http://mymilktoof.blogspot.com/ |
| 20:04.30 | beandog | oh my gosh these are awesome |
| 20:08.24 | _psychic_ | olds: NZL 2 ITA 2 |
| 20:11.30 | utahcon | How can you reference an object if the property name has a dot in it? For example Josso is returning OBJECT->Array[0]->name.first |
| 20:11.44 | beandog | {} |
| 20:12.07 | beandog | should work, utahcon |
| 20:13.41 | utahcon | I'll try it |
| 20:14.19 | DexterTheDragon | do or do not, there is no try |
| 20:28.07 | carmony | whats josso? |
| 20:29.25 | DexterTheDragon | carmony: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=josso |
| 20:30.18 | beandog | utahcon, that work? |
| 20:30.42 | utahcon | yes/no |
| 20:31.00 | utahcon | turned out I was accessing the wrong property... but yes your solution worked as it should. |
| 20:31.16 | utahcon | carmony: Josso is a pain in the ass when not configured properly |
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| 21:01.16 | carmony | bah |
| 21:01.19 | carmony | I didn't win |
| 21:02.56 | utahcon | me neither |
| 21:08.46 | bween | my coworker just asked me what the root password was to our server so he can send it to some random person. . . |
| 21:08.49 | bween | sigh |
| 21:10.48 | carmony | LOL |
| 21:12.06 | bween | serisouly... I stared at him for a little why making sure it was not a joke. |
| 21:12.25 | carmony | hey mindjuju |
| 21:16.34 | utahcon | mindjuju: is on vaca.. leave him be! |
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| 21:21.20 | carmony | oh is he? |
| 21:21.42 | utahcon | he is supposed to be |
| 21:21.50 | carmony | ic |
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| 21:37.51 | itimber | hey guys |
| 21:43.43 | itimber | anyone use Swift? |
| 21:43.50 | itimber | for emailing from PHP |
| 21:44.23 | itimber | ~lart |
| 21:44.26 | itimber | oops |
| 21:44.29 | itimber | ~rlart |
| 21:44.30 | ibot | smacks cro up side the head with a clue-by-4 |
| 21:44.42 | itimber | ~rlart |
| 21:44.43 | ibot | shoots stderr in the head |
| 21:44.52 | itimber | ~rlart |
| 21:44.53 | ibot | smacks carmony up side the head with a clue-by-4 |
| 21:44.56 | itimber | hehe |
| 21:51.49 | thebigdog | itimber: we dont use that crap |
| 21:52.06 | itimber | meh |
| 21:52.35 | itimber | what "crap" *do* you use? |
| 21:53.14 | thebigdog | mail |
| 21:53.26 | itimber | mail()? |
| 21:53.32 | itimber | geez |
| 21:54.02 | thebigdog | then i dont have to ask why swift doesnt work |
| 21:54.19 | DexterTheDragon | yeah who needs bloated libraries when mail() is builtin |
| 21:54.34 | itimber | what about SMTP authentication? what about sending HTML? what about all those other things that mail() can't handle |
| 21:54.53 | itimber | and I've heard that mail() is not entirely dependable |
| 21:54.58 | itimber | am I misinformed? |
| 21:55.57 | DexterTheDragon | mail can handle all that |
| 21:56.37 | itimber | and it's dependable? |
| 21:56.49 | itimber | guess so as I'm the odd man out |
| 21:56.56 | itimber | k, I'll check it and use that |
| 21:57.08 | unum | I've never head mail fail to send |
| 21:57.15 | DexterTheDragon | as long as your not on windows |
| 21:57.18 | unum | and I use it for html email |
| 21:57.32 | DexterTheDragon | its does have efficiency problems |
| 21:57.34 | unum | I did have to configure email to work on the server |
| 21:57.43 | unum | ya I don't send out a ton of mail with |
| 21:57.48 | unum | only about 100 a day |
| 21:58.05 | itimber | cool... that's what I'll use then |
| 21:58.10 | itimber | that sure simplifies things |
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| 22:00.24 | thebigdog | im just saying mail is good for most things |
| 22:00.32 | thebigdog | it has never let me down |
| 22:00.39 | carmony | itimber |
| 22:00.40 | carmony | I have |
| 22:00.46 | thebigdog | if you have issues with mail then it is probably your smtp server |
| 22:00.52 | thebigdog | or your network |
| 22:01.01 | itimber | kk |
| 22:02.03 | itimber | I'm listening |
| 22:02.10 | itimber | why is that, carmony? |
| 22:02.12 | DexterTheDragon | ~lart carmony |
| 22:02.12 | ibot | raises middle finger to carmony |
| 22:02.24 | itimber | ooooh.... this is getting good |
| 22:02.58 | carmony | Well, its all OOP, which is nice. It has great documentation, which PHP mail's functionality doesn't have great functionality, and while yes if you know what you're doing, mail() can do it, I find I don't have to second guess while using swift |
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| 22:03.19 | carmony | doesn't have great documentation* |
| 22:04.25 | itimber | carmony, are there things that you can do in SM that can't be done in mail()? |
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| 22:06.59 | carmony | http://swiftmailer.org/ see everything they list on the left hand side? |
| 22:07.18 | carmony | you can do that with mail() I think, but it is so much more straight forward with Swift |
| 22:09.02 | DexterTheDragon | yeah like with mail() if you send html email you have to craft the headers, but sqift probably does that for you |
| 22:09.18 | DexterTheDragon | s/sqift/swift/ |
| 22:09.49 | xtrementl | apparently also checks for header injection |
| 22:10.51 | carmony | ~pastebin |
| 22:10.51 | ibot | [~pastebin] A "pastebin" is a web-based service where you can paste anything over 3 lines without flooding the channel. Here are links to a few : http://www.pastebin.com , http://pastebin.ca , http://channels.debian.net/paste , http://paste.lisp.org , http://www.rafb.net/paste |
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| 22:59.37 | itimber | gotta roll... see ya'll in the morning |
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| 23:17.21 | SunSparc | Night all! |
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