| 00:00.52 | herlo | mindjuju: I'll be leaving here in about 10 minutes |
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| 00:41.46 | DexterTheDragon | carmony: xtrementl and I will be at the geek lunch in layton tomorrow |
| 00:46.29 | macnewbold | and the rest of the code greene crowd will most likely be at the SLC one |
| 00:46.38 | macnewbold | definitely not happy valley nor layton |
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| 01:44.07 | utahcon | some people |
| 01:47.26 | utahcon | ~lart mindjuju |
| 01:47.26 | ibot | holds mindjuju to the floor and spanks him with a cat-o-nine-tails |
| 01:49.24 | utahcon | mindjuju: he is scrubbing |
| 02:02.22 | herlo | mindjuju: http://mail.utos.org/mailman/listinfo/utos-xo |
| 02:03.15 | utahcon | ~lart DexterTheDragon for not coming to #utos-xo hackfest! |
| 02:03.15 | ibot | puts on some milking gloves. "All right, now, DexterTheDragon, this won't hurt a bit...." for not coming to #utos-xo hackfest! |
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| 02:18.54 | mindjuju | sup utahcon |
| 02:19.00 | mindjuju | why you be dissin' |
| 02:19.58 | herlo | mindjuju: don't need your smarta$$ness |
| 02:20.12 | mindjuju | d00d! |
| 02:20.23 | mindjuju | i'm glad we wen't with your music |
| 02:20.24 | herlo | ya? |
| 02:20.29 | mindjuju | wasn't sure what to play with the kids there |
| 02:20.33 | mindjuju | twas thinking barney or something |
| 02:30.37 | beandog | I just swatted a fly with my spoon |
| 02:39.58 | utahcon | mindjuju: harsh |
| 02:40.09 | utahcon | totally feel you though |
| 02:42.12 | mindjuju | dude, you know some of the stuff on ravetrax ain't no kid friendly |
| 02:42.54 | mindjuju | tw-03n245-56182-2c3-0476 |
| 02:43.06 | mindjuju | sorry, wrong win |
| 02:47.41 | herlo | yeah, it isn't |
| 02:59.36 | stderr | when you presentin', herlo? |
| 03:23.21 | herlo | stderr: on? |
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| 03:43.47 | beandog | but I cant picture myself even getting up about now. |
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| 14:55.31 | utahcon | ok I just fell in love with Wave... |
| 14:56.56 | cro | are you watching the video? |
| 14:57.05 | utahcon | yes |
| 14:57.48 | utahcon | it is actually pretty boring and cheesy |
| 14:58.07 | utahcon | but when they start talking about how Wave pretty much aggregates the web... oh la la |
| 14:58.34 | herlo | yeah, well I'm looking for stuff like that |
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| 15:02.07 | utahcon | herlo: we need to get a Wave account for UTOS and work it into the sites |
| 15:02.08 | utahcon | :D |
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| 15:04.18 | mastergunns | utahcon: whats Wave? |
| 15:04.38 | utahcon | mastergunns: Google's new toy |
| 15:04.59 | utahcon | It is ... for lack of better description... a collab tool |
| 15:05.57 | mastergunns | is it out or announceware? |
| 15:06.21 | utahcon | It is in developer preview |
| 15:08.26 | mgeary | ~yow |
| 15:08.59 | herlo | utahcon: probably... |
| 15:09.55 | herlo | mastergunns: I think it's announceware for most people. I signed up for it already, so when they send me an email, I'm going to see how it works :) |
| 15:10.51 | herlo | mastergunns: btw, how do you feel about utos-conman / scalereg hackfests every other Tuesday night for a while? It looks like we might have a couple mentors coming in to help as well. |
| 15:11.34 | herlo | ooh, mindjuju ca you change the topic to remind people about the geek lunch today ?? :) |
| 15:13.52 | cro | mindjuju: Yes, please, I don't want to be the only geek in the Thai restaurant here in Layton :-D |
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| 15:16.48 | *** topic/#UPHPU by mindjuju -> Geek Lunch today! |
| 15:17.04 | mindjuju | uh, prolly need a website, /me goes off to find one |
| 15:18.08 | mastergunns | herlo: that sounds like fun. I'd try and be there as often as I could. |
| 15:27.12 | mastergunns | which Tepanyaki is lunch at today? |
| 15:27.39 | cro | http://blog.utos.org/2009/05/22/event-utos-geek-lunch-may-29/ |
| 15:28.19 | macnewbold | mastergunns: it's thai, not tepanyaki |
| 15:29.07 | macnewbold | cro: layton's going to be busy - carmony, DexterTheDragon and xtrementl are all going to be there, and maybe another guy we work with |
| 15:30.03 | cro | ooh, fun! |
| 15:30.05 | mastergunns | macnewbold: cool - says Tepanyaki on the calendar. thanks for the lon @cro |
| 15:30.14 | cro | mastergunns: np |
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| 15:32.02 | herlo | mastergunns: tepanyaki doesn't do lunch |
| 15:33.28 | herlo | mindjuju: http://blog.utos.org/2009/05/22/event-utos-geek-lunch-may-29/ |
| 15:38.43 | *** topic/#UPHPU by mindjuju -> Geek Lunch today! - 3 locations! - Orem, SLC, and Layton | http://tinyurl.com/ngb88z | Utah PHP Users | uphpu.org |
| 15:59.42 | utahcon | I am such a Google Whore |
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| 16:05.17 | unum | I like google. but I only use their search engine and adwords |
| 16:05.34 | unum | I'm disappointed to see that none of the android phones coming out our expected to be google free |
| 16:05.59 | unum | well I also use firefox but not chrome |
| 16:06.13 | utahcon | unum: You can build your own image of Android without Google if you like. |
| 16:06.24 | utahcon | I don't use Chrome all the time |
| 16:06.45 | unum | weather I will be able to use it or not will probably depend on the phone |
| 16:06.56 | unum | I'm interested to see what they come out with |
| 16:07.02 | herlo | weather? |
| 16:07.10 | unum | wheather |
| 16:07.13 | herlo | 87 and sunny |
| 16:07.14 | herlo | whether |
| 16:07.22 | unum | ya that one. |
| 16:07.25 | herlo | :) just thought that was funny :) |
| 16:07.33 | herlo | ooh, I used two emoticons |
| 16:07.34 | unum | the weather channel owns both domains. |
| 16:07.40 | herlo | ~lart herlo |
| 16:07.40 | ibot | does a little 'dpkg -P herlo' action |
| 16:07.43 | unum | of course I always go to weather.gov |
| 16:07.51 | unum | long live government! |
| 16:08.05 | herlo | ahh, good thing I don't use ubuntu / debian |
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| 16:08.17 | unum | my friends have been pushing me to get a new phone |
| 16:08.26 | unum | in fact one offered to go in on a new phone with me |
| 16:08.51 | unum | I might finally break down and get a new one by the end of the year |
| 16:09.07 | SunSparc | ~iPhone++ |
| 16:09.07 | herlo | gphone is where it's at |
| 16:09.08 | unum | my friend had at&t give him an iphone so he ebayed it and bought and open moko |
| 16:09.15 | SunSparc | ~IE-- |
| 16:09.18 | herlo | lol |
| 16:09.24 | herlo | ~google++ |
| 16:09.55 | herlo | ~ie-- |
| 16:10.18 | SunSparc | :) |
| 16:10.25 | SunSparc | ~karma ie |
| 16:10.25 | ibot | ie has karma of -84 |
| 16:10.29 | SunSparc | lol |
| 16:10.56 | herlo | utahcon: I saw that |
| 16:11.00 | herlo | utahcon: Testing git command l33tn355 |
| 16:12.37 | SunSparc | Has everyone seen Google Wave? http://wave.google.com/ |
| 16:15.32 | herlo | SunSparc: yep |
| 16:15.36 | optikal | unum: How does he like the Openmoko? |
| 16:16.45 | unum | optikal: he likes it a lot |
| 16:16.57 | unum | he loves being able to apt-get install stuff on his phone |
| 16:17.12 | optikal | I've been skeptical of them since their first release, but Ive read the latest phone isn't bad at all. |
| 16:23.31 | dataw0lf | iPhone++ |
| 16:23.46 | dataw0lf | 3.0 in June |
| 16:24.39 | utahcon | dataw0lf: meh |
| 16:24.40 | utahcon | :D |
| 16:25.36 | dataw0lf | iPhone gives me everything I need (except tethering, but that's coming in 3.0) |
| 16:26.40 | herlo | wave rox! |
| 16:27.03 | herlo | only saw the email / chat app part so far too |
| 16:27.11 | dataw0lf | I already have an idea for my first Google Wave app |
| 16:27.18 | SunSparc | 3.0 is going to be awesome. |
| 16:29.22 | utahcon | oh yeah dataw0lf? Care to share? Maybe make it a community app? |
| 16:30.13 | herlo | :) |
| 16:31.03 | dataw0lf | every time I announce my ideas on IRC they get scooped within weeks. I'm taking a tightlipped approach. |
| 16:31.15 | utahcon | be that way |
| 16:31.59 | herlo | dataw0lf: pm works |
| 16:32.14 | herlo | nobody will share your message elsewhere :) |
| 16:32.22 | utahcon | true true |
| 16:32.44 | fungus | ~logs |
| 16:32.45 | ibot | All conversations are logged to http://ibot.rikers.org/channel, where "channel" is replaced by the URL-encoded channel name, such as %23freenode for #freenode. Lines starting with spaces are not logged. |
| 16:32.46 | herlo | dataw0lf: btw, what's this about? 20:59 <+stderr> when you presentin', herlo? |
| 16:34.19 | carmony | ~ie-- |
| 16:35.06 | utahcon | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:35.15 | SunSparc | ~IE-- |
| 16:36.16 | dataw0lf | herlo: oh, thought you were presenting last night |
| 16:36.28 | herlo | oh, no |
| 16:36.32 | herlo | OLPC hackfest |
| 16:36.34 | herlo | dataw0lf: ^^ |
| 16:38.37 | herlo | I think the google folks have spent a lot of time rehearsing this video |
| 16:39.43 | SunSparc | herlo: wave video? |
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| 16:40.50 | herlo | utahcon: wave.google.com |
| 16:40.53 | herlo | er |
| 16:40.56 | herlo | SunSparc: ^^ |
| 16:41.52 | SunSparc | heh, yeah, I know, I posted that link earlier. |
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| 16:42.34 | beandog | so anyone see terminator yet |
| 16:42.35 | SunSparc | ~pirate Lone_Wanderer |
| 16:42.36 | ibot | ACTION illegally downloads Lone_Wanderer and shares Lone_Wanderer with all his friends |
| 16:42.40 | beandog | or wolverine for that matter |
| 16:42.42 | beandog | any good? |
| 16:42.56 | Lone_Wanderer | awesome, there's more than one of me now! |
| 16:43.03 | Lone_Wanderer | I saw Wolverine. |
| 16:43.13 | Lone_Wanderer | I liked it, even if I wasn't a *huge* fan of how they did Gambit. |
| 16:43.27 | beandog | well, how can you not see star trek |
| 16:43.39 | SunSparc | Gambit was not introduced into the comics that early. |
| 16:43.42 | Lone_Wanderer | I haven't seen it yet :'( |
| 16:43.45 | SunSparc | beandog: exactly :) |
| 16:45.20 | beandog | man |
| 16:45.26 | beandog | I wonder if you can still get a startrek.net email address |
| 16:45.47 | beandog | http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/news/article/122728.html |
| 16:45.52 | dataw0lf | I saw Terminator |
| 16:45.54 | dataw0lf | it's ok |
| 16:45.54 | beandog | that's old |
| 16:45.58 | beandog | dataw0lf, yah? |
| 16:46.03 | dataw0lf | certainly better than T3. |
| 16:46.49 | beandog | what was wrong with t3 |
| 16:46.52 | beandog | I didnt think it was half bad |
| 16:47.10 | dataw0lf | ... |
| 16:47.33 | beandog | I mean, if you compare it to t2, t hen it's meh |
| 16:47.38 | beandog | but by itself, I thought it was ok |
| 16:48.11 | herlo | I thought the new Terminator was good, but cheesy at points |
| 16:48.28 | dataw0lf | I don't really judge sequels by themselves, though. |
| 16:48.39 | dataw0lf | which is exactly what T3 wanted you to do, because it was a completely different type of movie. |
| 16:48.47 | dataw0lf | (a crappy, obvious one) |
| 16:49.27 | dataw0lf | there was heart in T1 and T2. T3 was just a payday. |
| 16:50.37 | SunSparc | wave does look interesting |
| 16:51.42 | fungus | Is this going to be a Google hosted service only, or more federated like Jabber. |
| 16:51.56 | beandog | dataw0lf, hmm, ok |
| 16:52.09 | utahcon | fungus: supposed to be able to host anywhere |
| 16:52.28 | dataw0lf | well, it runs on GAE. |
| 16:53.09 | herlo | that's the best spell checker I've seen |
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| 17:09.04 | wps | beandog, it's a protocol, not a product |
| 17:09.25 | wps | it can be whatever you want it to be |
| 17:09.39 | wps | anyone can create a wave client |
| 17:09.52 | wps | anyone can host a wave server |
| 17:10.02 | wps | in the same want that anyone can host a mail server today |
| 17:10.55 | dataw0lf | well, no, it's not really a protocol. |
| 17:10.56 | dataw0lf | It's a service |
| 17:11.01 | dataw0lf | and the backend runs on GAE. |
| 17:11.36 | wps | isn't it a communication protocol in the way that IMAP is? |
| 17:11.45 | wps | ohâ¦Â waitâ¦Â I'm using that word wrong |
| 17:11.50 | wps | protocol is like http |
| 17:12.05 | herlo | ooh, text wave :) like irc |
| 17:12.11 | fungus | It's all of the above, protocol, platform, and product |
| 17:12.16 | dataw0lf | wps: well, IMAP and HTTP are protocols |
| 17:12.23 | dataw0lf | Wave implements a protocol. |
| 17:12.32 | dataw0lf | But the backend is going to run on GAE. |
| 17:12.38 | fungus | I haven't read deep enough to yet figure out which parts are replaceable, or user hostable. |
| 17:12.39 | dataw0lf | whether or not you implement a "Wave server" |
| 17:12.43 | wps | it doesn't have to use GAE |
| 17:12.52 | wps | GAE is just a tool for creating the client |
| 17:13.05 | wps | you can create the client using whatever you want |
| 17:13.28 | fungus | but if it's GAE, it might be difficult to host it yourself, if they use the BigTable stuff. |
| 17:13.37 | dataw0lf | GAE isn't a "tool for creating the client" |
| 17:13.47 | wps | wikipedia says it is |
| 17:13.55 | dataw0lf | it's a service that allows you to backend your stuff on Google's cloud |
| 17:13.57 | wps | "Google App Engine is a platform for building and hosting web applications on Google Web Servers" |
| 17:14.05 | dataw0lf | right... |
| 17:14.16 | dataw0lf | think of it as a service you implement on Google's end |
| 17:14.24 | dataw0lf | it runs on Google's cloud |
| 17:14.37 | herlo | it doesn't have to run on google |
| 17:14.39 | wps | the presentation said that you didn't have to use Google though if you didn't want to |
| 17:14.41 | fungus | it's a hosting service, that provides certain abilities not available anywhere else |
| 17:14.41 | herlo | wave, that is |
| 17:14.54 | wps | you could create and run your own wave servers and clients |
| 17:14.58 | herlo | you can implement your own services via wave... |
| 17:15.06 | herlo | it's open source (most of it) |
| 17:15.28 | wps | they have built their ownâ¦Â the ones they demoedâ¦Â but they also created it as a protocol so that anyone could build their own implementation of it |
| 17:15.39 | dataw0lf | right, you can implement your own "services". Just like with GAE proper. But the service is still going to be running on Google's metal. |
| 17:15.49 | herlo | dataw0lf: no |
| 17:15.50 | wps | that's not what I understood from the presentation |
| 17:16.01 | herlo | that's just what they demoed about the guys who did it in their server closet |
| 17:16.13 | herlo | they can use the google code and implement their own service |
| 17:16.37 | herlo | I like the translation thing at the end |
| 17:16.52 | wps | I could implement my own wave server and have it run on my own hardware in my own data center, completely independent of Google-anything |
| 17:17.10 | jsmith | That's my understanding too |
| 17:17.22 | herlo | yep |
| 17:17.48 | fungus | That is what I hope. |
| 17:18.20 | dataw0lf | Huh |
| 17:18.30 | dezertol | woot... flame wars ;-) |
| 17:18.43 | dezertol | on wave |
| 17:18.59 | dataw0lf | I'll believe it when I see it, let's just put it that way. |
| 17:19.07 | Lone_Wanderer | That wasn't a flame war, dezertol. |
| 17:19.10 | dezertol | I feel in to a burning wave of fire.. it went down down down.. |
| 17:19.20 | dezertol | no I mean on wave |
| 17:19.30 | dezertol | using wave to have a flame war would be awsome |
| 17:19.32 | Lone_Wanderer | You'll know when it's a flame war because dataw0lf will start questioning people's patriotism and right to reproduce. |
| 17:19.44 | utahcon | lol |
| 17:19.58 | dezertol | that wave app is pritty cool |
| 17:20.05 | wps | I thought the app was crap |
| 17:20.27 | wps | I think the protocol and what you can do with it is awesome, but I hate apps created by Google |
| 17:20.36 | herlo | dezertol: they talk about that :) it's kind of funny |
| 17:20.37 | carmony | lol |
| 17:20.53 | herlo | wps: I pretty much like the apps google creates |
| 17:20.56 | jsmith | wps: You ready to dive in and start to write a PHP-based Wave app? |
| 17:21.00 | dezertol | ya i'm like 25 min into the vid |
| 17:21.02 | herlo | how come you don't like them? |
| 17:22.09 | macnewbold | herlo: which geek lunch you going to? |
| 17:22.17 | herlo | salt lake |
| 17:22.19 | herlo | macnewbold: ^^ |
| 17:22.25 | dezertol | seriously.. wave is going to change a lot of things |
| 17:22.29 | herlo | macnewbold: I work 2 minutes from it |
| 17:22.30 | macnewbold | how many you expecting at salt lake? |
| 17:22.34 | macnewbold | ooh, nice |
| 17:22.40 | herlo | macnewbold: uh, I hope a lot of people |
| 17:22.51 | herlo | they have veggie thai |
| 17:22.59 | fungus | I plan on coming. |
| 17:23.07 | herlo | :) macnewbold we expect you and your crew |
| 17:23.26 | herlo | I suppose we'll have a few others. I'm going to show up at about 12:15 or so just to make sure there's some space for us |
| 17:23.29 | macnewbold | half of our guys worked from home today and are going to the layton one with carmony |
| 17:23.34 | herlo | yeah |
| 17:23.37 | herlo | I knew that |
| 17:23.43 | carmony | woohoo, I won't be alone! |
| 17:23.53 | herlo | carmony: didn't think you would.... |
| 17:24.06 | herlo | I hope utah_dave goes to the orem one. and that mindjuju isn't lonely down there |
| 17:24.08 | carmony | I didn't either, but you never know :P |
| 17:25.01 | carmony | macnewbold, which if your crew is coming to layton so I know to keep an eye out for them :P |
| 17:25.29 | Lone_Wanderer | I wonder how many people are coming to Thai Chili Garden. |
| 17:25.37 | utahcon | any suggestions on what presentation software to use for linux? I have OO.o, wondering if there is anything nicer, flashier :D |
| 17:25.41 | Lone_Wanderer | More to the point I wonder if I'll recognize any of them. What time is the lunch again? |
| 17:27.36 | herlo | Lone_Wanderer: mindjuju is going to that one |
| 17:27.44 | Lone_Wanderer | good deal |
| 17:28.16 | herlo | Lone_Wanderer: and my friend chris. When you get there, just yell 'Otis' and see if a large brown haired guy looks up |
| 17:29.48 | Lone_Wanderer | ok :) |
| 17:29.54 | fungus | Dude! A CLI app for Wave. |
| 17:30.13 | beandog | you said CLI |
| 17:30.27 | herlo | fungus: yeah |
| 17:30.33 | herlo | fungus: that's cool huh |
| 17:30.41 | fungus | whoa, hell yeah. |
| 17:30.53 | dezertol | LOL I'm filling out the form for wave sandbox access one of the questions is "Are you pain tolerant enough to work with APIs that are still in flux?" |
| 17:31.15 | dezertol | the first option is "Yeah! I walk on fire and swim with sharks." |
| 17:31.33 | fungus | lol, nice. |
| 17:31.38 | DexterTheDragon | carmony: me |
| 17:33.31 | herlo | utahcon: you coming late to ours?? |
| 17:33.55 | utahcon | if not on time :d |
| 17:34.02 | utahcon | but it is looking like late |
| 17:36.05 | utahcon | DexterTheDragon: what software did you do your slides in? |
| 17:37.51 | DexterTheDragon | i don't think I've ever done slides.... |
| 17:38.57 | utahcon | What did you use to present? |
| 17:39.11 | herlo | utahcon: cool |
| 17:39.22 | herlo | utahcon: we'll be there til 2pm probably |
| 17:39.44 | utahcon | sounds good |
| 17:40.10 | DexterTheDragon | utahcon: which presentation? |
| 17:40.17 | utahcon | uh |
| 17:40.20 | utahcon | that one you did... |
| 17:40.22 | utahcon | back in the day |
| 17:40.44 | utahcon | hmm |
| 17:40.51 | utahcon | nope you didn't use slides... |
| 17:40.51 | utahcon | nm |
| 17:40.56 | utahcon | you are no help to me :D |
| 17:41.28 | utahcon | maybe josephscott can tell me what he used |
| 17:41.48 | josephscott | ? |
| 17:42.08 | josephscott | I've used keynote on the mac for presentations |
| 17:42.20 | utahcon | thanks... |
| 17:42.25 | utahcon | don't have a mac though :( |
| 17:42.26 | herlo | both rule |
| 17:42.30 | utahcon | s5? |
| 17:42.55 | utahcon | nice thanks herlo |
| 17:42.58 | herlo | http://lmgtfy.com/?q=s5 |
| 17:43.37 | utahcon | :P I had already googled it after asking about s5 |
| 17:44.00 | herlo | lol :) |
| 17:44.15 | fungus | wow, I think I am just as excited about Wave as anything Steve Jobs has presented in a keynote. |
| 17:57.41 | unum | but that's not saying much |
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| 18:39.00 | herlo | macnewbold: where are you |
| 18:39.11 | herlo | slacker |
| 19:38.32 | jsmith | So, who is the resident CakePHP expert? |
| 19:39.08 | jsmith | (Or who at least has enough of a clue about it to help me with a small newbie problem) |
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| 19:41.45 | jsmith | Wow... the silence is deafening |
| 19:41.54 | jsmith | OK... let me word this a different way |
| 19:42.23 | jsmith | If you were going to start a new PHP project and wanted to use a fancy schmancy MVC (or MVC-like) framework, which would you use? |
| 19:49.53 | SunSparc | jsmith: CakePHP roolz |
| 19:49.56 | SunSparc | ~CakePHP++ |
| 19:50.10 | jsmith | SunSparc: Mind helping me for a second? |
| 19:50.20 | SunSparc | As far as who the expert is, that would be _psychic_ |
| 19:50.26 | jsmith | SunSparc: I haven't touched CakePHP in a *long* time, and apparently much has changed |
| 19:50.28 | SunSparc | jsmith: Sure, what can I do for you? |
| 19:50.32 | jsmith | I'm trying to setup a new project |
| 19:50.44 | jsmith | And since I don't remember jack, I'm reading through one of the tutorials |
| 19:50.52 | SunSparc | Ok |
| 19:50.58 | jsmith | It says to unzip the CakePHP code somewhere under your web root |
| 19:51.01 | jsmith | So I did |
| 19:51.09 | _psychic_ | mod_rewrite enabled? |
| 19:51.13 | jsmith | Aye.... |
| 19:51.18 | _psychic_ | tell on |
| 19:51.18 | jsmith | But I still get the ugly text screen |
| 19:51.35 | jsmith | Question 1: Does CakePHP *have* to be in the web root? |
| 19:51.36 | _psychic_ | .htaccess files intact, and AllowOverride set to All for the site? |
| 19:51.44 | _psychic_ | jsmith: at least he app/webroot folder |
| 19:52.07 | jsmith | Oh, so I copy app/webroot to the web root? |
| 19:52.13 | SunSparc | jsmith: It is best to have it in the web root |
| 19:52.19 | _psychic_ | no just plop the install down |
| 19:52.28 | _psychic_ | and set the webroot for the host/vhost to app/webroot |
| 19:52.40 | _psychic_ | leave it all intact |
| 19:52.42 | jsmith | Ah, I gotcha |
| 19:52.54 | _psychic_ | (you can split it up later if you really want to, though) |
| 19:53.12 | jsmith | Ok... I'm just trying to wrap my head around it again, and couldn't remember what I did to get it working before |
| 19:53.17 | SunSparc | Should work out of the box though, as long as apache is configured properly |
| 19:53.31 | jsmith | Well, here's my setup |
| 19:53.43 | jsmith | I'm trying this out on my laptop, as I know I've got a long plane flight tomorrow |
| 19:53.55 | jsmith | I untarred the files in /var/www/html/cake |
| 19:54.01 | jsmith | (where /var/www/html is the webroot) |
| 19:54.25 | jsmith | When I go to http://localhost/cake/ I get the ugly text screen |
| 19:54.40 | _psychic_ | no CSS, basically? |
| 19:54.43 | jsmith | (which, according to the tutorial, means that mod_rewrite isn't working... but it's enabled and everything) |
| 19:54.45 | jsmith | _psychic_: Exactly |
| 19:55.00 | _psychic_ | Can you paste the config somewheres? |
| 19:55.05 | _psychic_ | apache config |
| 19:55.15 | jsmith | Sure... |
| 19:57.31 | jsmith | http://cakephp.pastebin.com/d2dd974ac |
| 19:57.34 | jsmith | There's the relevant part |
| 20:02.13 | SunSparc | jsmith: See if this helps -> http://screencast.com/t/nHV8oboGAn |
| 20:02.55 | _psychic_ | jsmith: did you try setting the DocumentRoot to /var/www/html/cake/app/webroot ? |
| 20:03.13 | _psychic_ | you might check the logs for .htaccess issues too (like permissions) |
| 20:05.54 | jsmith | I checked the logs... but haven't changed the DocumentRoot yet |
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| 20:10.48 | SunSparc | jsmith: Did you see my link? |
| 20:10.59 | _psychic_ | what happens when you bring up the CSS sheet directly? |
| 20:15.54 | jsmith | Hmmmn... strange |
| 20:16.47 | SunSparc | jsmith: ? |
| 20:16.50 | jsmith | I've changed the web root |
| 20:16.58 | jsmith | and added a hosts entry |
| 20:17.09 | jsmith | Now when I go to http://cake.example.com/, I still get no CSS |
| 20:17.28 | jsmith | Just the page that says "Release Notes for CakePHP version blah" |
| 20:20.38 | utahcon | back from geek lunch |
| 20:21.28 | jsmith | _psychic_: I can pull up the CSS file just fine |
| 20:21.39 | jsmith | And according to firebug, there's not even a call to the css file |
| 20:23.15 | _psychic_ | heh |
| 20:23.25 | _psychic_ | is it asking for one in the layout? |
| 20:23.30 | _psychic_ | in the HTML ? |
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| 20:32.18 | itimber | sup guys |
| 20:32.26 | itimber | how was the lunch? |
| 20:32.28 | carmony | hey |
| 20:32.31 | carmony | just got back |
| 20:32.33 | carmony | it was good |
| 20:32.38 | itimber | nice |
| 20:32.39 | carmony | I got lost trying to find it |
| 20:34.01 | jsmith | _psychic_: No, it's not |
| 20:34.12 | _psychic_ | I guess that's why, then. :) |
| 20:34.25 | _psychic_ | the core default layout should include one unless you've changed it or added your own |
| 20:34.51 | herlo | geek lunch was awesome! |
| 20:34.55 | herlo | we had two new guys |
| 20:35.22 | herlo | Mike and George (utahcon made that name up because we forgot his name) |
| 20:35.30 | jsmith | _psychic_: That's what this tutorial said, but I'm just getting the "Release Notes" page, no CSS |
| 20:35.47 | _psychic_ | what tutorial? |
| 20:36.00 | jsmith | The IBM DeveloperWorks one... |
| 20:36.11 | jsmith | (found it on listed on the cakephp.org website) |
| 20:36.18 | _psychic_ | dunno how old that is |
| 20:36.23 | _psychic_ | the one in the book is a good start too |
| 20:36.40 | _psychic_ | something's been changed from the fresh code |
| 20:36.42 | carmony | herlo, awesome. we had 6 of us in layton |
| 20:36.47 | jsmith | OK, I'll try fresh code again |
| 20:36.53 | herlo | carmony: we had 8 |
| 20:36.58 | herlo | wonder how many mindjuju had |
| 20:37.03 | herlo | carmony: did you guys take pics? |
| 20:37.12 | carmony | naw, I didn't have my phone :( |
| 20:37.17 | carmony | I forgot it at home |
| 20:37.21 | herlo | oh, darn. We took some |
| 20:37.25 | mindjuju | we had 8 in the UC |
| 20:38.07 | herlo | actually, we had 7 |
| 20:38.42 | herlo | so that's 21, pretty good turnout |
| 20:38.49 | herlo | mindjuju: did Otis show up? |
| 20:38.50 | mindjuju | steve was there with a frew friends from Novell |
| 20:38.50 | itimber | herlo: which of the 8 doesn't count?? |
| 20:39.04 | herlo | itimber: it was only 7, I miscounted the first time |
| 20:39.05 | mindjuju | Lone_Wanderer was there |
| 20:39.12 | herlo | mindjuju: cool. |
| 20:39.35 | itimber | cool |
| 20:40.46 | DexterTheDragon | fun fun |
| 20:41.33 | orsonj | I think I want this. http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/05/28/49-port-usb-hub-is-just-plain-practical/ |
| 20:42.09 | herlo | mindjuju: was Otis there? |
| 20:42.38 | itimber | so, I've got a folder that I moved in the Terminal, it got interrupted, and now it's showing as a file, not a folder |
| 20:42.46 | itimber | any way to convert it back to a folder?? |
| 20:43.34 | jsmith | _psychic_: Weird... this one is working much better... not sure what changed |
| 20:43.44 | _psychic_ | hard to say :/ |
| 20:44.41 | orsonj | However, I'm not too excited about the $700 I'd have to part with to get it. |
| 21:07.58 | herlo | cool new svn function I found today: svn merge -c -rev <dir> will cherry pick a revision out of svn |
| 21:15.21 | beandog | toy story 3? |
| 21:15.23 | beandog | oh gahr. |
| 21:15.43 | beandog | disney has taken over. |
| 21:15.44 | mindjuju | i think it's imax too |
| 21:15.53 | mindjuju | or 3d |
| 21:15.55 | mindjuju | orsomething |
| 21:28.25 | DexterTheDragon | disney owns Toy Story, they were going to make 3 without pixar |
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| 22:53.01 | Lone_Wanderer | So long, my PHP friends. The weekend beckons. |
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| 23:14.28 | SunSparc | Later all! |
| 23:17.26 | itimber | later guys |
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