| 00:08.01 | wTrevyn | http://uphpu.org/pipermail/uphpu-jobs/2009-May/000314.html |
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| 00:31.41 | beandog | anyone have some curl skillz? |
| 00:31.59 | beandog | I'm trying to download a file using php+curl ... that part is simple enough, but I want to be able to display progress while its running, or other functions or whatever |
| 00:32.02 | beandog | can't quite figure that part out. |
| 00:33.38 | beandog | assuming thats even possible |
| 00:40.45 | beandog | ah man |
| 00:40.48 | beandog | need php 5.3 |
| 00:40.59 | beandog | no progress callback functions until then |
| 01:11.50 | beandog | I wonder if Terminator is gonna be busy tonight |
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| 02:15.22 | CGI341 | ~apb herlo |
| 02:15.23 | ibot | ACTION calls Duane Lee to find herlo |
| 02:15.29 | CGI341 | ~lart heartsbane |
| 02:15.29 | ibot | nukes heartsbane with a single large nuke |
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| 02:36.56 | Heartsbane | thanx theFuManchu |
| 02:37.07 | theFuManchu | sup |
| 02:37.23 | Heartsbane | notta do I know you? |
| 02:37.47 | theFuManchu | yeah, i'm just causing a lot of pain and discontent |
| 02:37.54 | theFuManchu | but yeah, you do know me |
| 02:37.58 | Heartsbane | k |
| 02:38.20 | theFuManchu | does herlo teach today? |
| 02:40.14 | theFuManchu | ~lart dexterthedragon |
| 02:40.14 | ibot | smacks dexterthedragon up side the head with a clue-by-4 |
| 02:42.22 | theFuManchu | heartsbane > PM |
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| 03:34.42 | mindjujuHome | k, who is around? |
| 03:35.42 | mindjujuHome | dexterthedragon, you around? |
| 03:44.44 | mindjujuHome | josephscott, got a moment? |
| 03:51.39 | DexterTheDragon | mindjujuHome: what up |
| 03:51.40 | DexterTheDragon | ? |
| 03:51.47 | mindjujuHome | ah DtD |
| 03:51.56 | mindjujuHome | i'm just getting ready to launch an email to uphpu |
| 03:52.04 | mindjujuHome | can you check something for me? |
| 03:52.11 | mindjujuHome | prolly take like 4 ~ 5 minutes |
| 03:52.12 | DexterTheDragon | sure |
| 03:52.31 | mindjujuHome | UPHPU Meeting Library - http://uphpu.org/meetinglibrary/ |
| 03:52.51 | mindjujuHome | and turn the volume low on speakers |
| 03:52.52 | mindjujuHome | least ye be blasted |
| 03:54.36 | DexterTheDragon | anything specific you want me to check? |
| 03:54.44 | mindjujuHome | do the vids work? |
| 03:54.49 | mindjujuHome | does it buffer? |
| 03:54.57 | mindjujuHome | is it peppy loading the page |
| 03:55.02 | mindjujuHome | anything look amiss/ |
| 03:55.18 | DexterTheDragon | videos are a little slow to load, but they're loading |
| 03:55.26 | mindjujuHome | how slow? |
| 03:55.31 | mindjujuHome | 10 - 20 sec? |
| 03:55.47 | DexterTheDragon | it says author justin carmony at the beginning of them all |
| 03:55.56 | mindjujuHome | yeah, that's just the intro |
| 03:56.09 | mindjujuHome | but it should bring up the title slide |
| 03:56.18 | mindjujuHome | i wonder if i should take that out so as not to confuse people |
| 03:56.21 | mindjujuHome | didn't think about that |
| 03:57.32 | DexterTheDragon | when I click play it takes ~30 seconds before it starts to play anything, then you have to let it buffer for a little longer |
| 03:57.55 | mindjujuHome | hmmm |
| 03:58.01 | mindjujuHome | what do you use for internet? |
| 03:58.17 | DexterTheDragon | qwest 1.5mbps |
| 03:58.38 | mindjujuHome | k, i wonder what that's going to do when we put this public |
| 03:58.59 | mindjujuHome | 30 sec, i think that's still tolerable, though i might ask the player to buffer less |
| 03:59.16 | mindjujuHome | though if you're on slower internet, that may be not enough buffered and might causing buffering during playback |
| 03:59.22 | mindjujuHome | do you get buffering during playback? |
| 03:59.29 | DexterTheDragon | yeah |
| 03:59.35 | mindjujuHome | a lot or a little? |
| 04:00.38 | DexterTheDragon | enough that its playing |
| 04:02.29 | mindjujuHome | what you think? tolerable under the label Beta? |
| 04:02.37 | DexterTheDragon | seeing if xtrementl will get on and take a look too |
| 04:02.51 | DexterTheDragon | probably tolerable |
| 04:03.01 | mindjujuHome | yeah, this eggyknap Fun with SQL is taking a moment to load, approaching the time you're quoting |
| 04:06.16 | mindjujuHome | i should spend the time to make this page look pretty, but truthfully i'm afraid if i don't get this out soon, it'll be another month in production |
| 04:06.23 | mindjujuHome | and i want to feel like it is done!!!! |
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| 04:07.28 | mindjujuHome | ah carmony |
| 04:07.33 | mindjujuHome | got a moment? |
| 04:08.47 | mindjujuHome | ugh, used the full video for eggyknap, not the cut one where it starts with him talking |
| 04:08.56 | mindjujuHome | i'm goign to need to fix that quick and try to upload for tomorrow |
| 04:09.16 | mindjujuHome | i'm launching though, i'm tired and want this done |
| 04:09.40 | mindjujuHome | plus it sounds like fungus's present isn't stereo so i'll have to fix that too |
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| 04:15.00 | mindjujuHome | sup xtrementl |
| 04:15.05 | xtrementl | hey there :) |
| 04:15.14 | mindjujuHome | what do you think of the vid? |
| 04:15.47 | xtrementl | haven't checked it out yet. i was on uphpu.org today where's it posted? |
| 04:15.50 | xtrementl | maybe i'm just disabled ha |
| 04:16.00 | mindjujuHome | nah, it just posted a moment ago |
| 04:16.06 | mindjujuHome | http://uphpu.org/meetinglibrary/ |
| 04:16.51 | xtrementl | watching now :) |
| 04:17.49 | xtrementl | lol i'm so nerdy looking |
| 04:17.52 | xtrementl | perfect |
| 04:17.55 | DexterTheDragon | mindjujuHome: what are you encoding too? |
| 04:18.02 | mindjujuHome | mp4 |
| 04:18.15 | mindjujuHome | good quality, great compression |
| 04:18.23 | xtrementl | lol i'm wolf like |
| 04:18.44 | DexterTheDragon | told ya you have scary pupils |
| 04:18.56 | mindjujuHome | yeah dude, that's waht i was saying |
| 04:18.56 | DexterTheDragon | the open source in me recommends theora :) |
| 04:19.05 | mindjujuHome | you look like you're going wolfman in the vid |
| 04:19.19 | mindjujuHome | i'll have to find a player that plays theora |
| 04:19.27 | mindjujuHome | or make it just a download only |
| 04:19.31 | xtrementl | looks great vic thanks |
| 04:19.32 | DexterTheDragon | hmmm |
| 04:19.55 | DexterTheDragon | does encoding to flv make everything horrible? |
| 04:20.32 | xtrementl | i'm sure there's some compression loss yeah |
| 04:20.34 | mindjujuHome | mp4 > flv |
| 04:20.49 | mindjujuHome | there is a pinch on yours, that's fustrating |
| 04:21.04 | mindjujuHome | i'm goign to have to re-enact yours to get better quality |
| 04:21.08 | mindjujuHome | prolly do that this weekend |
| 04:21.16 | xtrementl | sounds good |
| 04:21.17 | mindjujuHome | i'll use your voice, but do the slide preso record |
| 04:22.01 | xtrementl | i like the intro you got on for all the videos |
| 04:22.25 | mindjujuHome | :) |
| 04:22.33 | mindjujuHome | something quick, peppy and fun |
| 04:22.43 | mindjujuHome | the creds are at the end for the music |
| 04:24.20 | mindjujuHome | k, restarting to re-render out eggyknap, hopefully it'll be up for early tomorrow morn |
| 04:24.28 | mindjujuHome | cya ya'll laterz! thx for the input |
| 04:24.44 | xtrementl | alrighty take care :) |
| 04:25.10 | xtrementl | DexterTheDragon: did you get the info you needed for your server |
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| 06:20.16 | Lone_Wanderer | mindjuju: http://dcrookston.com/aperitif.mp3 you must listen |
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| 14:09.46 | carmony | mindjuju: awesome work on the meeting videos :) |
| 14:40.42 | Utah_Dave | mindjuju: yeah, really great. I missed the security meeting, so I'm watching it right now |
| 14:41.03 | Utah_Dave | I really like the picture in picture. |
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| 14:41.33 | Utah_Dave | Especially when you turn on the night vision! |
| 14:42.25 | carmony | LOL, I like how I have my name in every intro... ;) |
| 14:42.59 | Utah_Dave | yeah, you're famous! |
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| 14:50.10 | carmony | oh look, its my laptop! :D |
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| 15:25.29 | beandog | This text will be replaced |
| 15:25.45 | mgeary | ~yow |
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| 15:42.18 | beandog | I wonder what time UPS is gonna show up today |
| 15:42.30 | beandog | I could just avoid total drama island and have them deliver stuff to my work |
| 15:42.33 | beandog | oh well. |
| 15:44.33 | unum | of course some places won't let you ship to a different location than your credit card company bills to |
| 15:44.47 | eggyknap | mindjuju: I'm indulging my masochistic side and reviewing my SQL presentation. Nice recording! |
| 15:45.22 | eggyknap | I wanna shoot myself for not being adequately specific when talking about implicit INNER JOINs derived from commas and where clauses |
| 15:45.53 | mindjuju | eggyknap - thx! |
| 15:46.02 | mindjuju | i'll try to go back and add the vid camera to it |
| 15:48.03 | mindjuju | thx utah_dave and carmony |
| 15:50.08 | eggyknap | mindjuju: question: is there some link to each presentation individually, and is it OK if I share? I'd like to send this to the PostgreSQL media collection, if no one minds. |
| 15:50.38 | mindjuju | eggyknap, working on moving them to a seperate page for each |
| 15:51.02 | mindjuju | vid is licensed as creative commons non commercial so is good to share! |
| 15:51.05 | eggyknap | Sweet. |
| 15:51.14 | eggyknap | Yeah, nice work. I appreciate it. |
| 15:51.27 | mindjuju | i'll see if i can swing that here shortly so you can post this afternoon |
| 15:51.47 | eggyknap | Ooo... |
| 15:56.08 | *** topic/#UPHPU by macnewbold -> Meeting was last Thursday Security + PHP @ 7p Erik Johnson | Utah PHP Users Group | uphpu.org |
| 16:02.09 | DexterTheDragon | ~wednesday |
| 16:02.10 | ibot | Wednesday sucks, because it is only half way through the week. |
| 16:03.28 | beandog | ~suck |
| 16:03.29 | ibot | :( |
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| 16:03.32 | beandog | lol |
| 16:09.56 | carmony | you had a question for me earlier mindjuju? |
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| 16:19.12 | beandog | http://g-ecx.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/ciu/e6/d1/ee8ce03ae7a07145f318f110.L.jpg |
| 16:25.38 | itimber | I'm out.... meetings this afternoon, so I'll catch ya'll in the AM |
| 16:42.02 | eggyknap | mindjuju: question: on my presentation, anyway, the sound is limited to the left side (e.g. stereo funniness). Que pasa? |
| 16:46.31 | mindjuju | i need to copy the left to the right chan, so that it plays in both to fix prolly take about 10 minutes, re-encode about 3 hrs, though right now i've got my system tasked with encoding all the videos to avi so they can be ported to ogg |
| 16:46.38 | mindjuju | so it might not be fixed till tomorrow |
| 16:47.03 | mindjuju | :( |
| 16:47.37 | mindjuju | eggyknap, how do you feel about ms sql 2k5 or 2k8? |
| 16:48.13 | eggyknap | I'm not in a hurry for anything -- just curious. And I've never used MS SQL at all, much less different versions. |
| 16:48.24 | eggyknap | It's something I occasionally think of following. Then the drugs wear off. |
| 16:48.32 | mindjuju | :) |
| 16:48.56 | mindjuju | ah, something happened where i might have the "opportunity" to use 2k8 |
| 16:48.59 | eggyknap | Although UDBUG occasionally gets offers for free tickets to the SQL Server Worldwide User Group meetings, conferences, etc., which I should publicize more widely than just the UDBUG lists, perhaps. |
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| 17:36.11 | beandog | I just realized Im not wearing my glasses |
| 17:36.17 | beandog | No wonder I've been squinting all morning. |
| 17:36.29 | beandog | it all makes sense now! |
| 17:39.21 | beandog | now if I can just remember *where* I left my glasses, I'll be set |
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| 17:49.29 | mgeary | if i were to forget my glasses, i'd know a lot sooner than that |
| 17:49.36 | mgeary | ~blind mgeary |
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| 17:53.32 | PoeticIntensity | Hello all... |
| 17:53.43 | mgeary | ~ambush PoeticIntensity |
| 17:53.52 | PoeticIntensity | I just hopped in to say that the videos work great for me on Linux (gentoo using Firefox 3). |
| 17:54.01 | PoeticIntensity | ~thanks mindjuju |
| 17:54.01 | ibot | bitte, PoeticIntensity |
| 17:54.07 | PoeticIntensity | hehe... |
| 17:54.20 | PoeticIntensity | how's life, mgeary ? |
| 17:54.45 | PoeticIntensity | ~lart beandog |
| 17:54.45 | ibot | shoots beandog in his sleep |
| 17:54.48 | mgeary | PoeticIntensity: not bad, thanks. You? What's your job situation now? I can't recall if you'd found another job before you left the last one |
| 17:55.03 | PoeticIntensity | yeah... I did / have / am at a new job. |
| 17:55.16 | PoeticIntensity | working for a very small company... |
| 17:55.21 | PoeticIntensity | called "Conexm" |
| 17:55.35 | PoeticIntensity | I'm being forced to learn the Zend framework... |
| 17:55.45 | PoeticIntensity | which ultimately will be a good thing, but for now, is a bit frustrating. |
| 17:55.46 | mgeary | i've heard decent things about ZF |
| 17:55.54 | _psychic_ | I like ZF as a toolset |
| 17:56.05 | _psychic_ | (in some cases) |
| 17:56.07 | PoeticIntensity | yeah... so far, it's quite a jolt to the way I was doing things (mix of procedural and OOP coding)... |
| 17:56.24 | PoeticIntensity | but... I'm getting it. |
| 17:56.25 | PoeticIntensity | :) |
| 17:56.29 | _psychic_ | you should try cake ;) |
| 17:57.40 | PoeticIntensity | I put it up as an option, but the boss wanted us to use Zend. |
| 17:57.52 | _psychic_ | use it inside of cake, that's what I do. |
| 17:57.57 | _psychic_ | but yeah I see that |
| 17:59.39 | PoeticIntensity | we're also using Zend Studio here. Seems like a pretty powerful IDE. |
| 18:00.22 | _psychic_ | yeah it's the nicest of the full featured IDE's |
| 18:00.25 | _psychic_ | imho |
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| 18:04.31 | SunSparc | ~IE-- |
| 18:04.53 | fungus | ~karma ie |
| 18:04.53 | ibot | ie has karma of -74 |
| 18:04.59 | PoeticIntensity | YES! |
| 18:05.04 | PoeticIntensity | ~id-- |
| 18:05.09 | PoeticIntensity | ~karma ie |
| 18:05.09 | ibot | ie has karma of -74 |
| 18:05.10 | fungus | ~karma id |
| 18:05.10 | ibot | id has karma of -1 |
| 18:05.32 | fungus | I think there is a rate limiter on the karma |
| 18:05.52 | mgeary | ~ie-- |
| 18:05.55 | mgeary | ~karma ie |
| 18:05.55 | ibot | ie has karma of -75 |
| 18:06.01 | mgeary | you do need to spell it correctly |
| 18:06.06 | SunSparc | Nice! Others have been working on it also! |
| 18:06.23 | PoeticIntensity | hehe... |
| 18:06.25 | PoeticIntensity | d'oh |
| 18:06.28 | PoeticIntensity | ~ie-- |
| 18:06.33 | PoeticIntensity | ~karma ie |
| 18:06.33 | ibot | ie has karma of -76 |
| 18:06.38 | PoeticIntensity | I guess so. |
| 18:06.49 | SunSparc | ~IE-- |
| 18:08.04 | SunSparc | Only 589 more to go. |
| 18:08.09 | SunSparc | :) |
| 18:09.13 | SunSparc | ~ie |
| 18:09.14 | ibot | well, ie is the domain suffix for Ireland, or Internet Explorer, or the browser of the Devil |
| 18:09.31 | mgeary | ~console ireland |
| 18:09.31 | ibot | ACTION gives ireland the consolation moose |
| 18:09.51 | SunSparc | heh |
| 18:17.26 | *** topic/#UPHPU by mindjuju -> Utah PHP Users Group | uphpu.org |
| 18:24.05 | carmony | What questions do you have about MS SQL server mindjuju? |
| 18:24.19 | carmony | ~ie-- |
| 18:24.48 | mindjuju | just more wondering about efficency of 2k8 |
| 18:25.01 | mindjuju | i'm using 2k5, and have experience in 2k 7 and 6.5 |
| 18:25.13 | mindjuju | oops, that's stated wrong |
| 18:25.24 | mindjuju | have experience in 2k, 7 and 6.5 |
| 18:25.28 | mindjuju | that looked like 2k7 |
| 18:26.04 | mindjuju | you using 2k8 carmony? |
| 18:26.06 | carmony | Well, I'm trying to remember what I heard about 2k8... |
| 18:26.14 | carmony | Do you need any of its new features? |
| 18:26.30 | carmony | We got 2k8 right before I left the company I was working for |
| 18:26.36 | mindjuju | been looking at it online |
| 18:26.53 | mindjuju | was looking for more "real" experience with it than the MS white papers |
| 18:27.57 | mgeary | hey, i've got a client asking about a desktop/dock/whatever widget that would basically monitor an RSS feed and do some sort of "flash" when there was new content posted. Has anyone got any recommended starting points for that? |
| 18:28.45 | carmony | I could ask one of my buddies |
| 18:28.47 | mindjuju | mgeary, i'm sure there is an air app that does that |
| 18:28.49 | carmony | who still works there |
| 18:29.48 | mgeary | mindjuju: probably so, but Air carries with it a crapload of framework. Not rejecting that outright, but something simpler might be nice |
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| 19:00.15 | thebigdog | finally back in somewhat business |
| 19:00.24 | carmony | so, is anyone coming to the geek lunch in Layton? :P |
| 19:03.00 | tierra | where? |
| 19:03.08 | carmony | Pan Thai I believe... |
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| 19:04.26 | carmony | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:05.01 | tierra | ugh, little late for it... |
| 19:05.10 | tierra | er |
| 19:05.13 | tierra | friday |
| 19:05.13 | tierra | nvm |
| 19:05.26 | tierra | yeah, probably could do that |
| 19:06.29 | tierra | whoa, google maps finally updated with the legacy parkway |
| 19:06.39 | tierra | took long enough |
| 19:09.36 | tierra | the SLC location is slightly closer :/ |
| 19:11.44 | beandog | my eyeball is having issues today |
| 19:11.57 | tierra | just take it out then |
| 19:12.06 | beandog | it's kind of important. |
| 19:12.25 | tierra | that's a myth |
| 19:13.32 | carmony | josephscott, who is in charge of the WordPress Themes directory? |
| 19:14.15 | josephscott | "in charge" might be pushing it, but I have admin access to it |
| 19:14.56 | josephscott | carmony: what's up? |
| 19:15.04 | carmony | Its impossible to search :P |
| 19:16.09 | josephscott | the good news there is that I'll be adding a feature filter to the site |
| 19:16.26 | josephscott | are you searching for a specific theme? |
| 19:16.57 | carmony | No, just that everytime I go to look at themes on WordPress.org... I always feel the interface to do so has been cludgy and lacking |
| 19:17.12 | carmony | there used to be tags for colors that are now gone :P |
| 19:17.50 | josephscott | those will be back as part of the feature filter |
| 19:17.58 | josephscott | carmony: have you tried the WP 2.8 betas? |
| 19:18.00 | utahcon | yay! |
| 19:18.23 | josephscott | it has a built in theme installer, which has the feature filter in it, that's what will go on to the the web site as well |
| 19:18.36 | carmony | I haven't tried the beta |
| 19:19.09 | carmony | My friends are setting up a website/blog for their adoption webpage that birth mothers can visit to get to know more about them |
| 19:19.16 | carmony | so I was going to have them browse wordpress themes |
| 19:19.29 | carmony | but really couldn't at the current state of things :P |
| 19:19.56 | josephscott | well, then can browse all of the themes |
| 19:20.25 | josephscott | as for the feature filter, believe me, it's on my list of things to get done :-) |
| 19:20.29 | carmony | haha, ok :) |
| 19:20.39 | carmony | If you ever need any help testing it let me know |
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| 19:25.31 | josephscott | carmony: thanks, I'll do that |
| 19:25.36 | Lone_Wanderer | mindjuju: what do you think? |
| 19:26.50 | carmony | omg... |
| 19:26.56 | carmony | I HATE clients sometimes... |
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| 19:28.04 | carmony | sometimes when they drop a requirement out of the blue that they think is easy but is a nightmare with a crazy deadline..... uggg..... ;) |
| 19:29.32 | SunSparc | Been there, done that. |
| 19:29.43 | josephscott | time, money, scope - the triangle of every project |
| 19:30.33 | SunSparc | ~lart clients with unrealistic conceptions of projects |
| 19:30.33 | ibot | teaches clients with unrealistic conceptions of projects the basics, including how to RTM |
| 19:30.34 | carmony | Well, apparently Dell's legal department has to approve EVERYTHING that they publish on any website, etc. |
| 19:30.50 | josephscott | if you increase the scope then they'll need to give you more time and money |
| 19:31.08 | carmony | which we just found out, and it takes a few days |
| 19:31.29 | carmony | so instead of having the site ready by monday, it has to be ready by tomorrow morning, at least with all the content, so it can be approved |
| 19:32.22 | carmony | Dell's legal department has put this project behind 3 weeks already |
| 19:32.28 | carmony | suuuuuch a pain in the butt |
| 19:33.06 | carmony | and we can't push the deadline, because they're making the annoucement at E3... |
| 19:35.39 | josephscott | increased the scope, without increasing the time, sounds like you need to increase the money then :-) |
| 19:36.38 | carmony | I'm going to talk with my coding partners and seeing if we should increase the bill... grrrr.... :P |
| 19:39.03 | SunSparc | You just did talk to you coding partners. ;) Increase the bill. :) |
| 19:39.31 | beandog | heh |
| 19:39.43 | beandog | is it 6p yet? |
| 19:39.49 | beandog | I wanna go get my monitor |
| 19:40.11 | SunSparc | New toys are so exciting :) |
| 19:40.18 | beandog | o yesh |
| 19:41.39 | carmony | The problem is that we want to make Dell/Alienware happy, because if this goes well, we'll have a lot of work in the future |
| 19:42.05 | herlo | carmony: but you shouldn't compromise your price too much, or they'll just do that sort of thing all the time |
| 19:42.38 | beandog | you should, however, send the lawyers a fruit basket laced with exlax |
| 19:42.40 | SunSparc | Precedence has an evil way of becoming law. Just look at our judicial system. |
| 19:42.49 | SunSparc | beandog: LOL |
| 19:43.17 | carmony | I agree |
| 19:44.08 | SunSparc | Having a big client that is a pain in the neck is usually not worth the money they will pay. If they are not willing to negotiate they are probably not worth your time. |
| 19:46.10 | beandog | no kidding. |
| 19:47.21 | beandog | no vale la pena. |
| 19:47.37 | beandog | no puedo oirte, hay una banana en mi oido |
| 19:48.14 | SunSparc | Heh |
| 19:48.24 | beandog | :) |
| 19:51.17 | SunSparc | Zune? Hrmmm... |
| 19:51.35 | utahcon | That is fine... you can lose it. I won't miss it :D |
| 19:51.48 | utahcon | SunSparc: never |
| 19:51.58 | utahcon | well I shouldn't say never... |
| 19:52.02 | utahcon | but not with my own money. |
| 19:52.11 | SunSparc | :) |
| 19:52.19 | beandog | gah, ipod |
| 19:52.27 | beandog | get rockbox. |
| 19:52.32 | utahcon | I would really like to break myself of the Zune too eventually and use an open source music format player. |
| 19:53.01 | herlo | utahcon: haha |
| 19:53.07 | fungus | utahcon: doesn't the G1 do media playing, why bother with a separate player? |
| 19:53.33 | utahcon | fungus: yes it does, but I had the Zune first |
| 19:53.33 | herlo | beandog: new ipod doesn't allow rockbox anymore |
| 19:53.46 | utahcon | and the Zune allows access to the Zune Pass... |
| 19:54.05 | utahcon | herlo: what is limited? Besides formats? |
| 19:54.15 | fungus | about a year ago I used to carry a man bag to hold my phone, blackberry, and ipod. It totally sucked. |
| 19:54.16 | beandog | herlo, yah Im locked outta mine too |
| 19:54.20 | beandog | :( |
| 19:54.33 | beandog | a man bag? |
| 19:54.39 | utahcon | code for purse |
| 19:54.44 | beandog | is that anything like a plastic bag with a brick in it to swing at people |
| 19:55.01 | fungus | heh, but now... I only carry one device. |
| 19:55.07 | Lone_Wanderer | a man bag is not a purse, though it looks similar |
| 19:55.11 | fungus | No more ridicule for the man bag. |
| 19:55.22 | Lone_Wanderer | 1. It is manly. Purses are not. 2. It is being carried by a man, not a woman. |
| 19:55.27 | Lone_Wanderer | It's like a kilt. |
| 19:55.37 | beandog | both of which, I'd never use. |
| 19:55.38 | utahcon | The G1 also has a quite limited range of headphones that work with it... in fact my particular G1 didn't come with any. |
| 19:55.40 | Lone_Wanderer | You have to have bigger balls than everyone in the room in order to wear/use one. |
| 19:55.42 | beandog | :) |
| 19:55.54 | beandog | fungus, what are you using now |
| 19:56.01 | beandog | cell phone? |
| 19:56.05 | utahcon | fungus is rocking his iPhone |
| 19:56.09 | beandog | ahh |
| 19:56.15 | beandog | that'd do it. |
| 19:56.19 | fungus | ~hug iPhone |
| 19:56.20 | ibot | ACTION gets a running start and tackle-hugs iPhone |
| 19:56.45 | SunSparc | ~iPhone++ |
| 19:56.51 | utahcon | Another problem with the G1 and media... battery life. It was intended to be a lot of things... a media player is not one of them. |
| 19:57.16 | SunSparc | ~IE-- |
| 19:57.50 | Lone_Wanderer | beandog: I wear a kilt regularly. In fact I think today is a kilt day. |
| 19:58.18 | fungus | Although sometimes the usefulness of a man bag makes me reconsider carrying one. |
| 19:58.22 | SunSparc | Every day is a kilt day. :) |
| 19:58.42 | herlo | utahcon: why would you want drm |
| 19:58.59 | herlo | beandog: oops :( |
| 19:59.01 | utahcon | herlo: I don't. And you are right. |
| 19:59.12 | herlo | 'nuff said :) |
| 19:59.14 | utahcon | But I am not doing anything with my music that the DRM is preventing. |
| 19:59.26 | SunSparc | My iPhone case attaches quite nicely to my kilt sporran chain. |
| 19:59.28 | Lone_Wanderer | SunSparc: I am of the opinion that anyone who wears a kilt is such a tremendous stud that he has to be careful around construction zones |
| 19:59.37 | Lone_Wanderer | as they may mistake him for actual building material |
| 20:00.12 | SunSparc | Lone_Wanderer: LOLz! |
| 20:00.30 | SunSparc | My family wears them to any special occasion we can. |
| 20:00.32 | herlo | utahcon: but what if you wanna put it on your gphone? |
| 20:00.41 | beandog | the kilt? |
| 20:00.55 | utahcon | herlo: then I don't buy the music with DRM. |
| 20:01.00 | utahcon | Zune has DRM free music too. |
| 20:01.06 | herlo | beandog: http://www.utilikilts.com/ |
| 20:01.12 | utahcon | and unlike iTunes it doesn't cost anything extra. |
| 20:01.16 | herlo | utahcon: sure... |
| 20:01.32 | herlo | utahcon: okay, starting to like you a little better again :) |
| 20:02.04 | beandog | oh, my |
| 20:02.26 | beandog | http://www.utilikilts.com/images/home/prodthumbs/mocker_thumb.jpg |
| 20:02.33 | beandog | somehow that doesn't really sell it for me. |
| 20:02.53 | utahcon | there are places and times for kilts... golf courses are not them |
| 20:04.50 | unum | golf courses are totaly a place for kilts |
| 20:04.56 | unum | how could they not be a place for kilts |
| 20:05.47 | utahcon | unum: I would like you to stand behind me while I bend over to pick up or place my tee... and while I retrieve my balls from the rough, or the hole. |
| 20:05.49 | utahcon | ;) |
| 20:06.14 | unum | you need a longer kilt :) |
| 20:06.46 | utahcon | I will wear pirate shorts (you know the really long ones that go past the knees) instead. |
| 20:06.55 | utahcon | I love shorts... I hate working in pants... pants suck. |
| 20:07.07 | unum | aren't those called capri's ;) |
| 20:07.39 | unum | I developed a habit of working in pants when I landscaped |
| 20:09.14 | Lone_Wanderer | Kilts are Scottish. Golf is scottish. |
| 20:09.41 | unum | exactly |
| 20:09.56 | Lone_Wanderer | The only thing wrong with wearing a kilt on a golf course is that you should only do exceptionally manly things in a kilt, like throwing logs or killing Englishmen. And golf isn't exactly super manly. |
| 20:10.31 | Lone_Wanderer | Or like what these guys are doing - http://media.crossfit.com/cf-video/CFCopenhagen_SmaekVid.mov |
| 20:14.30 | Lone_Wanderer | Like that guy who's doing pull ups with weights chained to his waist. |
| 20:21.24 | herlo | DexterTheDragon: utahcon: what do you think about having a utos-conman / scalereg every other tuesday night ?? |
| 20:21.38 | herlo | s/reg/reg hackfest/ |
| 20:22.00 | utahcon | herlo: I am down with it |
| 20:22.27 | DexterTheDragon | I might be down for that |
| 20:22.35 | herlo | utahcon: k, starting next tuesday |
| 20:22.39 | herlo | DexterTheDragon: ^^ |
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| 20:24.30 | Utah_Dave | hey, herlo. You know how you can "respin" Fedora live cds? Do you know if there is something similar for Ubuntu? |
| 20:24.53 | herlo | Utah_Dave: supposedly, but it's not as well advertisied |
| 20:25.19 | Utah_Dave | Yeah, I've been searching for something the last few hours |
| 20:25.20 | herlo | Utah_Dave: I suggest getting into #ubuntu-us-ut and asking |
| 20:25.27 | Utah_Dave | ok, thanks |
| 20:25.29 | herlo | I've heard a few things... |
| 20:29.16 | carmony | I hate encoding... and encoding hates me... |
| 20:29.54 | herlo | utahcon: DexterTheDragon: which time is best, 6:30, 7:00, 7:30 or 8pm ?? |
| 20:29.58 | beandog | whot |
| 20:30.06 | utahcon | 7 or later. |
| 20:30.37 | herlo | utahcon: I was thinking I might *start* at 6:30 and go til about 11pm |
| 20:30.49 | herlo | meaning anyone can come during that time |
| 20:31.02 | utahcon | I like that idea |
| 20:31.04 | DexterTheDragon | thats really late for a school night :) |
| 20:31.18 | herlo | school? |
| 20:31.26 | herlo | DexterTheDragon: come at 6:30, stay til 9 |
| 20:31.34 | herlo | you got in 2.5 hrs |
| 20:35.33 | utahcon | DexterTheDragon has to be home in time for mommy to tuck him in :D |
| 20:35.41 | herlo | probably |
| 20:35.53 | herlo | poor little DexterTheDragon, he needs his bwanky |
| 20:36.23 | DexterTheDragon | your darn right |
| 20:36.28 | stderr | what's scalereg? |
| 20:37.00 | stderr | herlo: can out-of-staters help with conman? |
| 20:39.10 | herlo | stderr: we'd lov eit |
| 20:39.22 | herlo | stderr: I'm writing a blog post about scalereg and utos-conman |
| 20:39.57 | herlo | scalereg is the southern california linux expo's registration software. Unfortunately, it's written in Djano 0.96 and is not compatible with our 1.0.2 stuff |
| 20:40.12 | herlo | but it's pretty awesome stuff, and we're well on our way to porting it |
| 20:40.20 | herlo | stderr: I'll put you on the calendar invite |
| 20:40.23 | carmony | when encoding goes awry! |
| 20:40.27 | carmony | http://screencast.com/t/ZHYKUGXcKYV |
| 20:40.50 | herlo | carmony: very nice! |
| 20:41.03 | stderr | herlo: awesome |
| 20:41.53 | DexterTheDragon | carmony: thats nice |
| 20:42.41 | herlo | stderr: pay attention to the notes at the bottom |
| 20:44.31 | stderr | herlo: got it. |
| 20:45.01 | herlo | k, cool |
| 20:45.39 | stderr | I may place this code in a github repo and just use that, and interface with git-svn |
| 20:45.42 | stderr | >_> |
| 20:45.45 | stderr | <_< |
| 20:46.13 | herlo | stderr: I have scalereg on my gitweb |
| 20:46.26 | herlo | but I don't have a webdav way of accessign the repo atm |
| 20:47.48 | herlo | oh, wait, no I don't |
| 20:47.50 | herlo | lol |
| 20:48.01 | herlo | stderr: it's free software, so feel free.. |
| 20:48.06 | stderr | you should check out gitosis |
| 20:48.27 | herlo | stderr: but what I don't get is why you want to have another centralized resource. Wouldn't you just put it in git on your local machine and use git-svn from there? |
| 20:48.43 | herlo | yeah, I've heard of gitosis |
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| 20:49.27 | stderr | herlo: yea, I suppose I can use git-svn. It's unfriendly with tags and branches though |
| 20:50.03 | herlo | well, that kind of makes sense |
| 20:51.01 | stderr | I just can't stomach using SVN for more than 5 minutes now |
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| 20:53.13 | herlo | hehe |
| 20:54.45 | stderr | or use the Google Code repo to mirror a hg repo too. I wouldn't mind that either. |
| 20:56.49 | carmony | brb restarting |
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| 20:59.52 | herlo | stderr: hmm, I'll use git, but that's not a bad idea... |
| 20:59.58 | herlo | stderr: I get your drift now |
| 21:00.34 | stderr | herlo: has Google Code opened it's hg interface to the general public? Heard something about it last month but I don't keep updated with it. |
| 21:01.54 | utahcon | hg? |
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| 21:02.52 | stderr | utahcon: mercurial |
| 21:03.12 | utahcon | ah! |
| 21:08.06 | herlo | stderr: not that I know of |
| 21:08.45 | herlo | stderr: what I was thinking though is that I might just work out of a gitosis interface most of the time, and use git-svn to commit to google code once a day or something |
| 21:09.26 | herlo | stderr: http://herlo.org/gitweb/ <-- I'll add the project there and then add the gitosis stuff to make it easy to access... |
| 21:10.04 | herlo | I guess I could move it to github though, that might be easier |
| 21:11.29 | SunSparc | Sweet astronomy picture: http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap081119.html |
| 21:13.15 | utahcon | mindjuju: I am stoked about the video library! :D |
| 21:13.25 | stderr | herlo: ah, sweet. Just lemme know. |
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| 21:14.29 | herlo | :) |
| 21:21.47 | beandog | http://donttasemeblog.com/2009/05/no-lawyer-present-interrogate.html |
| 21:21.48 | beandog | gah |
| 21:22.10 | beandog | wtg, supreme court. |
| 21:22.53 | beandog | I cant read these things anymore, they make me too sad |
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| 21:29.22 | Lone_Wanderer | "there is little if any chance that a defendant will be badgered into waiving his right to have counsel present during interrogation" - yeah freaking right. |
| 21:29.28 | Lone_Wanderer | That's what cops DO. |
| 21:30.12 | Lone_Wanderer | They ask you questions designed to incriminate you, and if you don't want to answer them they lie to you to convince you to talk to them. |
| 21:30.42 | Lone_Wanderer | "If you cooperate with me, I can help you." "The judge will go easier on you if you cooperate." |
| 21:33.22 | stderr | hehe, yea, I love that. |
| 21:37.21 | carmony | http://current.com/items/90094188_new-animated-abc-mike-judge-series-mocks-liberal-enviro-crazies.htm LOL |
| 21:37.27 | carmony | Their son's name is Ubuntu |
| 21:37.30 | unum | once the lawyer gets here we won't be able to help you |
| 21:38.12 | Lone_Wanderer | unum: I've never heard a cop even mention a lawyer. |
| 21:41.22 | Lone_Wanderer | Too bad they don't actually show an episode. |
| 21:54.21 | unum | Lone_Wanderer: once they arrest you they are required to tell you that you have a right to an attorney |
| 21:54.32 | unum | of course they can question you with out mentioning that |
| 21:54.48 | unum | and you don't have a right to a public attorney when they are questioning you |
| 21:54.57 | Lone_Wanderer | Yeah, but giving their spiel really fast and actually discussing it with you are two different things. |
| 21:55.13 | Lone_Wanderer | No, but you do have the right not to say anything |
| 21:55.36 | unum | or leave |
| 21:55.39 | Lone_Wanderer | (Which is, in fact, everyone's best option when questioned by the police.) |
| 21:55.51 | Lone_Wanderer | You can't leave if you've been arrested or if you're being detained. |
| 21:55.51 | unum | Lone_Wanderer: did you see the video on that |
| 21:55.53 | Lone_Wanderer | yeah |
| 21:56.29 | unum | that's true. they can detain you with out arresting you |
| 21:56.40 | unum | material witness I believe is the favorite reason |
| 21:56.44 | utahcon | detaining has a limited amount of time though |
| 21:58.00 | unum | not as a material witness |
| 22:22.56 | SunSparc | Just in case you have always wanted Coda or Transmit and thought they were too expensive -> https://www.panic.com/sale/ |
| 22:35.03 | mgeary | i've heard decent things about Coda. Anyone use it? |
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| 22:36.04 | mgeary | have you used TextMate? |
| 22:36.30 | SunSparc | Nur ein bischon |
| 22:37.04 | SunSparc | It does not does some things yet. But what it does it does pretty well. |
| 22:37.09 | mgeary | s/bischon/BiÃchen |
| 22:37.22 | mgeary | does Coda do side-by-side diffs? |
| 22:37.29 | SunSparc | Yeah, could not remember that keysrtroke. |
| 22:37.40 | mgeary | opt+s |
| 22:38.10 | SunSparc | Ãweet! |
| 22:38.18 | SunSparc | No, no diffs yet. |
| 22:38.27 | mgeary | meh |
| 22:38.28 | SunSparc | It does do split screen, which is handy sometimes. |
| 22:38.55 | SunSparc | Does not do variable eithers. Does do some code completion though. |
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