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| 03:19.12 | justincarmony | ~ie-- |
| 03:19.17 | justincarmony | ~karma ie |
| 03:19.17 | ibot | ie has karma of -62 |
| 03:20.23 | herlo | ~ie-- |
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| 12:22.05 | _carmony | Ahh, what a nice way to start the day |
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| 14:33.37 | macnewbold | ~yow |
| 14:39.03 | utahcon | morning |
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| 14:54.35 | itimber | morning guys |
| 14:54.59 | itimber | I'm back from a 2wk vaca to KC |
| 14:55.02 | itimber | missed you all |
| 14:55.07 | itimber | and glad to be back |
| 14:55.12 | itimber | what did I miss? |
| 14:55.31 | utahcon | nothing |
| 14:57.12 | cro | Hi itimber! |
| 14:57.32 | itimber | heya cro |
| 14:58.25 | itimber | nothing?!? Well, it won't take long to get up to date then. |
| 14:58.47 | cro | :-) |
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| 14:59.25 | itimber | everyone check out WP's article on the Internet Czar? http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/25/AR2009052502104.html |
| 15:03.54 | itimber | what do you all think about that? |
| 15:07.42 | cro | it concerns me |
| 15:07.53 | cro | I don't think it's going to make anything better |
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| 15:09.56 | itimber | I feel the same |
| 15:10.21 | itimber | more red tape, less freedom, nill security benifit |
| 15:10.25 | cro | I'm trying to think of the last time that gov't got involved in anything and it actually helped and made a difference. |
| 15:10.36 | cro | as opposed to further restricting our freedoms |
| 15:13.41 | unum | when they built that street in front of my house |
| 15:13.44 | unum | that really helped out |
| 15:13.48 | unum | oh and the sewer line as well |
| 15:14.01 | unum | UTOPIA is a more recent example |
| 15:14.03 | cro | unum: point taken |
| 15:15.43 | itimber | that's true.... unum, why you gotta show us the other side of the coin? |
| 15:15.44 | itimber | LOL |
| 15:16.01 | cro | so let me rephrase that, I think what concerns me is when gov't says "hmmm..here's something we really need to 'regulate' or 'manage' because people are doing 'bad stuff with it'" |
| 15:16.26 | itimber | fo sho |
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| 15:17.17 | cro | The internet is still very much in its formative years, and to have people that think they know everything there is that can be done with it will surely cause the US to be unable to keep up with the rest of the world. |
| 15:17.54 | cro | The telecom tariff regulations are a great example. |
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| 15:42.53 | justincarmony | good morning everyone! :P |
| 15:43.22 | justincarmony | ~ie-- |
| 15:44.19 | cro | Hi carmony |
| 15:51.01 | justincarmony | how is everyone doing? |
| 15:51.13 | cro | great |
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| 16:06.35 | utahcon | tee hee... someone did a search about one of my websites and saw an archived chat from #uphpu and thought I was a hacker... I feel elite. |
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| 16:12.41 | herlo | utahcon: that's l33t |
| 16:13.39 | utahcon | oh right |
| 16:13.42 | synic | don't correct him, he'll hax you |
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| 16:15.06 | herlo | synic: not correcting, I was saying it's l33t to be elite :) |
| 16:15.29 | synic | that's it, I'm gonna hax you myself |
| 16:16.40 | herlo | k |
| 16:18.57 | justincarmony | coming in at 6 AM this morning might have been a bad idea :P |
| 16:19.14 | justincarmony | ~ie-- |
| 16:19.20 | justincarmony | Ooooh I so need a coke |
| 16:19.54 | synic | oooh, geek lunch in 3 locations |
| 16:21.05 | justincarmony | thats right, itimber and thebigdog should come to the one in layton! |
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| 16:22.01 | itimber | ~Layton++ |
| 16:22.34 | justincarmony | itimber: I got my office in Riverdale/Roy |
| 16:22.45 | unum | I was in layton yesterday |
| 16:23.07 | cro | :-) |
| 16:23.09 | herlo | ~ie-- |
| 16:23.13 | cro | itimber: so you coming to lunch on Fri?. |
| 16:23.13 | herlo | ~firefox++ |
| 16:23.14 | itimber | nice justincarmony |
| 16:23.21 | mgeary | ~safari++ |
| 16:23.31 | itimber | unfortunately, no.... Dr appt at 11:45 |
| 16:23.38 | itimber | probably a 2hr deal |
| 16:23.40 | itimber | :( |
| 16:23.43 | herlo | itimber: how long can that last really? |
| 16:23.46 | herlo | 2 hrs? |
| 16:23.53 | justincarmony | Colonoscopy! |
| 16:23.56 | itimber | didn't know about the GL when we set it up |
| 16:23.57 | itimber | LMAO |
| 16:24.00 | itimber | nope |
| 16:24.02 | itimber | baby appt |
| 16:24.11 | itimber | it's one of the long ones |
| 16:24.29 | itimber | and, no... I'm not pregnant |
| 16:25.04 | itimber | make it Thursday :) |
| 16:25.56 | herlo | lol |
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| 16:26.12 | herlo | http://www.youtube.com/user/wolfenstein12 <-- my friend at work made this video after he went to sea world this weekend |
| 16:26.33 | herlo | actually, it's this one if you wanna share: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7GoFmuCI6Q |
| 16:27.27 | synic | heh |
| 16:27.32 | cro | That's the same guy that was there the last time we were @ Sea World. |
| 16:27.39 | herlo | yeah, he's way off tune |
| 16:31.07 | _carmony | wow |
| 16:31.09 | _carmony | http://gamesbyemail.com/News/DiceOMatic |
| 16:31.23 | _carmony | thats a LOT of work to get a random number |
| 16:36.44 | _psychic_ | truly random numbers take a lot of work |
| 16:37.04 | DexterTheDragon | and plutonium |
| 16:37.35 | tierra | "I have used Math.random, Random.org and other sources, but have always received numerous complaints that the dice are not random enough." ... those people are just complaining because they are loosing |
| 16:37.40 | tierra | *losing |
| 16:38.39 | tierra | random.org probably has more entropy than rolling dice... |
| 16:40.30 | tierra | especially rolling dice in a machine... |
| 16:50.22 | Utah_Dave | ~random tierra |
| 16:50.40 | Utah_Dave | ~random tierra |
| 16:56.18 | beandog | does php have something like setw |
| 16:57.40 | xtrementl | sprintf() ? |
| 16:58.06 | beandog | that might work |
| 16:58.35 | beandog | need to cleanup my console apps |
| 16:58.42 | beandog | dunno if Ill switch to using ncurses or not |
| 16:58.51 | beandog | probably overkill just to make it look pretty. |
| 17:06.10 | herlo | ~ie-- |
| 17:08.14 | synic | php ncurses console apps? |
| 17:08.34 | beandog | yah |
| 17:10.04 | fungus | ncurses = poor man's GUI |
| 17:12.31 | brasto | any drupal gurus here? |
| 17:12.43 | brasto | specifically on the og extension, if anyone... |
| 17:13.02 | beandog | Im gonna go play with SOUNDEX |
| 17:13.19 | mgeary | ~yow |
| 17:13.23 | brasto | #drupal-support hasn't helped me, and I have a months old post in their forum with no response. |
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| 17:14.45 | jsmith | eggyknap: Great lightning talk, by the way... |
| 17:14.52 | eggyknap | jsmith: thx :) |
| 17:15.12 | eggyknap | Were you there, or are you watching online? |
| 17:16.16 | herlo | eggyknap: what is in ottowa that would have made us go there last week?? |
| 17:16.26 | eggyknap | PGCon. |
| 17:16.39 | herlo | right before Memorial day? |
| 17:16.40 | herlo | wow |
| 17:16.52 | eggyknap | Meh... they cater to a worldwide audience. |
| 17:17.07 | herlo | eggyknap: true that |
| 17:17.23 | beandog | whats pgcon? |
| 17:17.25 | eggyknap | Generally PGCon follows BSDCan by about a week (same organizer), so it tends to work out that way each year. |
| 17:17.30 | eggyknap | a PostgreSQL conference |
| 17:17.34 | beandog | oh really? |
| 17:17.37 | beandog | that'd be cool to go to |
| 17:17.49 | eggyknap | It is :) http://www.pgcon.org |
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| 17:18.36 | beandog | cool |
| 17:18.48 | fungus | dude, I want to go to BSDCan. |
| 17:20.42 | eggyknap | FWIW, PGCon (and probably BSDCan, too) sponsor speakers' travel arrangements, if you ask 'em. I wouldn't have been there if they hadn't paid the way. |
| 17:22.14 | herlo | eggyknap: wouldn't they just pay for yer flight to be earlier? |
| 17:22.51 | eggyknap | Possibly. There's more to it than that, though -- $wife's unhappiness increases exponentially with my time away from home. :) |
| 17:23.01 | herlo | yeah, that's true... |
| 17:23.10 | eggyknap | She didn't mind my going to Ottawa for four days... but going for two weeks would be another story altogether. |
| 17:23.26 | herlo | well, that's wives for ya |
| 17:23.33 | eggyknap | Now if we all went, she'd be all for it. But that gets into serious cash... |
| 17:23.48 | jsmith | eggyknap: No, I watched it online, unfortunately |
| 17:26.02 | beandog | what in the world |
| 17:26.04 | beandog | http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/string-functions.html#function_elt |
| 17:26.10 | beandog | how would you use that? |
| 17:27.42 | fungus | you could use it instead of an ENUM, so your list is defined in code and not in the schema. |
| 17:28.04 | beandog | ajjj |
| 17:28.05 | beandog | ahh |
| 17:28.09 | beandog | so you pass the idx of the one you want |
| 17:28.16 | beandog | but, why would you use mysql to pick that out |
| 17:28.18 | beandog | and not the code |
| 17:28.33 | orsonj | looks useful for poorly normalized databases |
| 17:28.46 | orsonj | perhaps as part of a larger query |
| 17:28.49 | DexterTheDragon | cause your crazy and do everything in stored procedures? |
| 17:29.13 | beandog | huh? |
| 17:29.15 | fungus | I think DexterTheDragon has it |
| 17:29.44 | utahcon | mmmm Stored Procedure craziness |
| 17:30.01 | beandog | what does a sp have to do with it |
| 17:32.50 | DexterTheDragon | you could do things like: SELECT ELT(display_choice, username, first_name) AS display_name |
| 17:32.57 | DexterTheDragon | if you we're feeling silly |
| 17:33.40 | beandog | sorry ... really tired today, brain is not firing on all cylinders |
| 17:33.53 | beandog | DexterTheDragon, ah, to overcomplicate stuff |
| 17:34.00 | DexterTheDragon | exactly |
| 17:34.03 | DexterTheDragon | in SQL |
| 17:34.09 | beandog | Im just trying to imagine a scenario when you'd want to use this function |
| 17:34.21 | beandog | oh well. |
| 17:35.48 | beandog | theres some intresting functions in here |
| 17:36.43 | beandog | I wish mysql had regexp replace |
| 17:40.32 | mgeary | beandog: i do too |
| 17:42.02 | _psychic_ | prop 8 upheld, 6-1 |
| 17:48.21 | fungus | bummer, it's been a good day so far, now you mention that. :( |
| 17:49.45 | stderr | well, now that the liberals attack on marriage has failed, we're going to murder Santa Claus, fungus. |
| 18:04.22 | orsonj | ~ie-- |
| 18:16.03 | fungus | Of course I do. More so than that other guy. :P |
| 18:16.19 | utahcon | DexterTheDragon: So... if you wanted to drop another Bonkers (or similar) link to me... I'd be lovin' it. |
| 18:16.51 | utahcon | Did you guys see the patent IBM is trying to get on a regex and form validation? |
| 18:19.29 | mindjuju | that's crazy, i invented regex while sitting on the throne about 30 yrs ago |
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| 18:20.28 | mgeary | mindjuju: that's clearly untrue |
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| 18:20.33 | Lone_Wanderer | Oops. |
| 18:20.37 | mgeary | we all know it took you longer than that to be potty trained |
| 18:20.49 | beandog | lol |
| 18:24.38 | beandog | herlo, hardware exchange? sweet |
| 18:24.54 | beandog | which reminds me, anyone want a dead laptop? you can sell it for parts. |
| 18:24.58 | beandog | I just ripped out the hdd |
| 18:25.01 | Lone_Wanderer | What kind of laptop? |
| 18:25.12 | beandog | and destroyed the hdd tray in the process |
| 18:25.20 | beandog | Lone_Wanderer, old dell p4 |
| 18:25.29 | beandog | weighs like 40 pounds |
| 18:25.31 | Lone_Wanderer | ahh |
| 18:25.41 | Lone_Wanderer | I was hoping you'd say a Dell... whatever my old laptop waas. |
| 18:25.42 | Lone_Wanderer | was* |
| 18:25.50 | Lone_Wanderer | I loved that machine :'( and it died. I don't even know what broke. |
| 18:26.00 | beandog | this one was dying already |
| 18:26.16 | Lone_Wanderer | Then maybe I could cobble together a sort of frankenstein machine |
| 18:26.18 | beandog | the mouse was whacked, the dev device would appear and disappear every few secodns |
| 18:26.28 | beandog | something else was broken on it, cant remember what |
| 18:26.42 | beandog | either way, its scrap metal now |
| 18:26.49 | Lone_Wanderer | In that case, no thanks :p |
| 18:27.16 | beandog | where do you go recycle electronics anyway |
| 18:27.27 | beandog | maybe I'll just leave it on the doorstep of Best Buy |
| 18:28.04 | Lone_Wanderer | XD |
| 18:28.06 | Lone_Wanderer | I don't know. |
| 18:32.18 | jsmith | If it's a Dell, you can fill out a form on their website and they'll send you a pre-paid shipping label |
| 18:32.26 | jsmith | And they'll take it away and give it a good home |
| 18:34.19 | herlo | beandog: hardware exchange, yes |
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| 19:02.37 | brasto | josephscott: I have to step away right after this, but I'll check back later for your response. Here |
| 19:02.40 | brasto | doh |
| 19:02.53 | josephscott | ? |
| 19:03.05 | brasto | Here's the issue. We have a .ru domain that needs to be in Russion. If I understand correctly... |
| 19:03.23 | brasto | you just upload the mo and po files and it does it automatically |
| 19:03.35 | brasto | we have uploaded them, but they are not translating the site |
| 19:03.54 | brasto | http://ldsrus.ru |
| 19:03.57 | brasto | any ideas? |
| 19:07.13 | brasto | note that they also have the buddypress plugin on the site, and they have uploaded the files for that plugin as well - if that even makes any difference. |
| 19:08.07 | brasto | of course, I should clarify, josephscott, that I'm asking you because it's a wordpress install... |
| 19:09.20 | josephscott | if you are looking to translate the text of the site then you should be adding the translations to the themes, buddypress in this case |
| 19:09.32 | mgeary | bah |
| 19:09.37 | mgeary | hey fungus you around? |
| 19:09.51 | fungus | mgeary: yup |
| 19:10.00 | josephscott | I assume you've read through http://codex.buddypress.org/translations/ |
| 19:10.20 | josephscott | and this http://codex.buddypress.org/how-to-guides/customizing-labels-messages-and-urls/ |
| 19:11.40 | mgeary | having troubles with an apache vhost. It's on a dedicated IP, and apache doesn't give any errors that i can find, but it's not listening on that IP, and the vhost isn't working |
| 19:14.53 | mgeary | hrm |
| 19:14.55 | mgeary | well, there it goes |
| 19:15.05 | mgeary | removed some crap from the vhost def and it seems fine |
| 19:15.07 | mgeary | whatever |
| 19:15.10 | mgeary | :) |
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| 19:48.44 | DexterTheDragon | ~rlart |
| 19:48.45 | ibot | smacks DexterTheDragon up side the head with a clue-by-4 |
| 19:48.53 | DexterTheDragon | backfire |
| 19:49.47 | orsonj | heh |
| 19:49.50 | orsonj | ~ie-- |
| 20:06.23 | mgeary | hey, how do you do a dry run on svn update? |
| 20:07.43 | mgeary | svn status -u |
| 20:07.47 | mgeary | thanks, mgeary |
| 20:07.49 | mgeary | you rock |
| 20:07.57 | mgeary | no, YOU rock |
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| 21:12.15 | mgeary | ~rlart |
| 21:12.16 | ibot | brandishes Excalibur! "With this sword, I vanquish thee, beandog!" and lops off beandog's head |
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| 21:13.15 | mindjuju | never really saw mgeary as the sword wielding type |
| 21:13.23 | mindjuju | though, that's prolly why he doesn't have guns |
| 21:13.25 | mgeary | well, see, it was ibot |
| 21:13.28 | mindjuju | he's got swords |
| 21:13.39 | mindjuju | ah, true that |
| 21:13.50 | mindjuju | why have swords when you can have ibot for self defense! |
| 21:15.27 | SunSparc | ~lart ibot |
| 21:15.27 | ibot | strangles sunsparc with a 9-pole serial cable |
| 21:15.33 | SunSparc | :) |
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| 21:26.00 | justincarmony | gah |
| 21:26.10 | justincarmony | I hate testing my VPN connection to my office |
| 21:26.16 | justincarmony | I have to set it up, get ready |
| 21:26.18 | justincarmony | go home |
| 21:26.23 | justincarmony | only to find its not working |
| 21:26.30 | justincarmony | so I go back ot the office the next day |
| 21:26.37 | justincarmony | to rinse and repeat |
| 21:28.26 | cro | justincarmony: I used to just go down to the closest Starbucks, Paradise Bakery, or wherever and use the free Wi-Fi to test. |
| 21:28.38 | justincarmony | I should do that |
| 21:28.47 | justincarmony | ~ie-- |
| 21:29.26 | cro | it was handy too, when I had to do tech support, just have whoever's VPN was "broken" take me out to lunch or for coffee. :-D |
| 21:40.46 | unum | I was trying to help my brother setup a vpn yesterday. we were using his dial up to test it. |
| 21:40.55 | unum | I spent a couple of hours at it before giving up |
| 21:42.27 | mindjuju | unum, that reminds me of my old tech support days, getting somebody using Shiva remote onto the internet |
| 21:42.46 | mindjuju | that was my greatest achievement |
| 21:46.21 | brasto | k, i'm back josephscott. I'm looking at those urls you sent to see if they overlooked anything. |
| 22:01.00 | beandog | herlo, ping |
| 22:01.21 | herlo | beandog: pong |
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| 22:10.14 | mindjuju | ~apb dexterthedragon |
| 22:10.15 | ibot | ACTION hires Beth to rough up dexterthedragon |
| 22:10.24 | DexterTheDragon | sup mindjuju |
| 22:10.36 | mindjuju | did you watch that tiesto dvd? |
| 22:10.42 | mindjuju | what about the oakie? |
| 22:10.50 | DexterTheDragon | not yet |
| 22:10.56 | DexterTheDragon | might tonight |
| 22:11.16 | DexterTheDragon | I know, was busy bbq'n over the weekend |
| 22:11.51 | mindjuju | oh, well at least you have your priorities straight |
| 22:11.56 | mindjuju | i did some bbq on monday too |
| 22:12.02 | mindjuju | though i bbq with techno playing |
| 22:12.14 | DexterTheDragon | lol |
| 22:12.15 | mindjuju | :) |
| 22:12.42 | mindjuju | though you couldn't hear it real well over by the firepit where i had peach cobbler going |
| 22:12.42 | xtrementl | haha |
| 22:13.52 | mindjuju | xtrementl - sup bro |
| 22:14.01 | mindjuju | as soon as i get home, i'm going to upload your presentation |
| 22:14.05 | mindjuju | try to release them all tonight |
| 22:15.36 | brasto | josephscott: they didn't have this line set properly (which I fixed) in wp-config.php: define ('WPLANG', 'ru_RU'); |
| 22:16.05 | brasto | but they do have the language files in wp-content/languages |
| 22:16.18 | brasto | it's still not translating... did I miss something? |
| 22:16.59 | josephscott | I'm going to say yes, even though I haven't look at your install :-) |
| 22:20.01 | josephscott | brasto: what about bp-languages ? |
| 22:21.40 | brasto | yea, I guess if it's not working, you can probably safely assume I missed something.... dumb question on my part :) |
| 22:21.48 | brasto | looking for bp-languages... |
| 22:21.58 | brasto | I think they said they put the files there |
| 22:22.10 | josephscott | http://codex.buddypress.org/how-to-guides/customizing-labels-messages-and-urls/ |
| 22:24.36 | brasto | find . -name *.mo |
| 22:24.37 | brasto | ./wp-content/plugins/buddypress/bp-languages/buddypress-ru_RU.mo |
| 22:24.48 | brasto | looking at that url again in case I missed something there... |
| 22:25.04 | brasto | oh, and that was just the first hit in the find query :) |
| 22:28.53 | josephscott | 3. Load the MO language file with bp-custom.php ? |
| 22:30.58 | brasto | wp-content/plugins/bp-custom.php does not exist |
| 22:31.09 | brasto | looking up the article for how to get it |
| 22:33.51 | brasto | ok, josephscott: ls wp-content/plugins/buddypress/bp-languages/ |
| 22:33.51 | brasto | buddypress-ru_RU.mo buddypress-ru_RU.po buddypress.pot |
| 22:34.00 | brasto | from that I see there's already a .po file |
| 22:34.08 | josephscott | yep, that looks good |
| 22:34.12 | brasto | I copy that to wp-content/plugins? |
| 22:34.26 | brasto | oops, the rest of the path: |
| 22:35.17 | brasto | oh, that is the path |
| 22:35.26 | brasto | do i need to rename it to bp.custom.php? |
| 22:35.31 | josephscott | I think those stay in wp-content |
| 22:36.09 | josephscott | you can just create wp-content/mu-plugins/bp-custom.php |
| 22:37.06 | josephscott | there's a thread on this in the bp forums: http://buddypress.org/forums/topic.php?id=1877 |
| 22:42.54 | brasto | josephscott: I'll read over that. Looks like I need to step away again, so I may have questions in the morning if I don't figure out what's missing. |
| 22:43.01 | brasto | thanks so far, though! |
| 22:43.51 | josephscott | you may want to look at the buddypress dev email list as well: http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/buddypress-dev |
| 22:52.25 | beandog | anyone ever used htmltidy functions in php? |
| 22:54.31 | herlo | haha, yep |
| 22:54.40 | herlo | but you know I don't know your answers :) |
| 22:54.49 | beandog | oh wait |
| 22:54.54 | beandog | php5 it uses a pecl extension? |
| 22:54.56 | beandog | pfft, forget that |
| 23:07.56 | beandog | holy crap is it really 5 |
| 23:19.00 | herlo | looking for a simple way to get mysqldump to dump one line per record in a table. Anyone got something quick? The man page doesn't seem to have anything useful |
| 23:20.33 | herlo | ahh, --skip-extended-insert :) |
| 23:23.24 | itimber | I'm out.... later guys |
| 23:29.46 | SunSparc | laterz |
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| 23:38.15 | wTrevyn | The Job links on UPHPU.org are giving a 401 error |
| 23:42.31 | wTrevyn | mindjuju: ^ |
| 23:43.03 | wTrevyn | Looks like its just the most recent |
| 23:49.38 | wTrevyn | http://alaskaseafood.org/ |