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| 01:46.41 | beandog | oh wow |
| 01:46.50 | beandog | I got Star Trek: The Animated series today |
| 01:46.53 | beandog | the box is *really* nice |
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| 02:20.11 | mindjuju | good ole beandog |
| 02:21.28 | beandog | :) |
| 02:21.33 | beandog | hows it going mindjuju |
| 02:22.16 | mindjuju | much better now that I've taken a shower and just doing a last scan of email and v mail messages |
| 02:22.24 | beandog | last scan? |
| 02:22.27 | beandog | going to bed? |
| 02:22.46 | mindjuju | well, not yet, but i've got this killer headache |
| 02:22.54 | mindjuju | so i'm going to tune out early tonight |
| 02:22.59 | beandog | oy, poopy |
| 02:23.10 | mindjuju | despite them being winders servers, mine don't usually squeak that much |
| 02:23.22 | mindjuju | but i still check them a couople times a day |
| 02:23.23 | mindjuju | cya! |
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| 11:21.55 | influx | anyone alive? |
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| 14:57.44 | macnewbold | ~zippy |
| 14:58.47 | carmony | ~lart macnewbold |
| 14:58.47 | ibot | whips out a sword and chops macnewbold in half |
| 14:59.01 | macnewbold | ~lart carmony |
| 14:59.01 | ibot | eats carmony and falls over dead |
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| 15:06.20 | mgeary | ~yow |
| 15:07.58 | jsmith | ~zippy |
| 15:10.19 | mgeary | hey, in svn, can someone give me the nickel tour/explanation of the branches, tags and trunk directories in a svn project? my usage of svn to-date has been pretty rudimentary |
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| 15:14.30 | cro | trunk: Where mainline development is occurring |
| 15:14.54 | cro | branches: Someone branched off from the mainline to do some other work that will get merged sometime in the future |
| 15:15.36 | cro | tags: Snapshot of trunk at some point. In CVS tags were immutable, I can't remember if that's true in svn |
| 15:15.58 | cro | does that answer your question mgeary? |
| 15:19.36 | mgeary | so if i want to add a sub-project to an existing project, such that another folder appears in trunk, would i just create/add the folder there and check it in? |
| 15:19.48 | mgeary | or do i need to do something more? |
| 15:22.28 | cro | right |
| 15:23.21 | cro | that's all you need |
| 15:23.27 | mgeary | fair enough |
| 15:23.38 | cro | ever read the svn book? |
| 15:23.43 | mgeary | nope |
| 15:24.01 | mgeary | so when a version hits a release, it sounds like i should make a "tag" that is flagged as a milestone? |
| 15:24.05 | cro | I recommend it (I'm not picking on you, don't mind answering the question |
| 15:24.11 | mgeary | :) |
| 15:24.16 | cro | yeah, that's the intended use case |
| 15:25.28 | cro | disclaimer: I ditched svn for git :-) |
| 15:25.45 | mgeary | heh |
| 15:26.45 | cro | never used bzr, what do you like about it? |
| 15:27.12 | orsonj | It was the first distributed vcs that I heard about, and I've been using it a little bit to play with. |
| 15:27.25 | orsonj | Later I heard of git, and have been wanting to try it also, to compare. |
| 15:27.27 | fungus | bzr's best feature is that it is super easy to setup a repository |
| 15:27.37 | orsonj | yep, that part is easy |
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| 15:43.50 | fungus | I use bzr for managing my DNS zone files. |
| 15:44.13 | fungus | bzr is nice for that, because the "repository" is in the same directory I am managing. |
| 15:44.25 | fungus | No external/central repository to manage |
| 15:45.37 | macnewbold | rcs can do that too |
| 15:48.08 | mgeary | mindjuju: ping |
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| 15:50.36 | fungus | yeah, but rcs is a PITA to use. |
| 15:51.12 | fungus | I used to do that, but had to jump through so many hoops to make a simple change. |
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| 16:01.23 | mindjuju | ~apb mgeary |
| 16:02.04 | mgeary | heya, found my answer. thanks, though |
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| 16:39.52 | herlo | http://fiftystudio.com/videos/ikeagm.png |
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| 16:45.11 | carmony | lol |
| 16:45.16 | carmony | I like ikea :P |
| 16:45.41 | mindjuju | whta's wrong with ikea? |
| 16:45.48 | mindjuju | they have good cinnamon rolls |
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| 16:47.13 | cro | every time I go there and buy something, it seems to take me a full day to put whatever it is together |
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| 16:47.44 | macnewbold1 | bah |
| 16:48.03 | mindjuju | macnewbold1, i think you want to /ghost |
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| 16:48.12 | mindjuju | i think that's the command something like that |
| 16:49.00 | stderr | it's /msg nickserv ghost <username> <password> |
| 16:49.29 | mindjuju | ah, thx stderr! |
| 16:49.36 | stderr | np |
| 16:52.31 | mgeary | ~mourn dataw0lf |
| 16:53.01 | stderr | ? |
| 16:53.06 | stderr | oh, right. |
| 16:53.20 | macnewbold | much better |
| 16:53.51 | herlo | carmony: I can live with svn because I can use git-svn :) |
| 16:57.21 | utahcon | fun with kvm |
| 16:57.30 | herlo | kvm rulez! |
| 16:58.22 | utahcon | if only I could figure out a better way to cut/copy/paste to/from it |
| 16:58.31 | utahcon | currently I just run it as a vnc |
| 16:58.38 | utahcon | which isn't bad, but... |
| 16:59.02 | herlo | I think virt-manager uses vnc and you can copy/paste from it iirc |
| 17:07.36 | mgeary | ~happy 95th birthday to my grandma today |
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| 17:10.55 | mgeary | hey fungus, if i update a /var/named/domain.com.zone file and reload rndc, the slave dns server automatically picks up the change right? |
| 17:11.30 | fungus | if the serial number was incremented, and the slave is mentioned in the NS records of the zone. |
| 17:11.50 | mgeary | digging against the slave is giving the new IP, so it looks like it worked |
| 17:12.02 | fungus | good job |
| 17:12.03 | mgeary | the serial was incremented |
| 17:12.16 | mgeary | not sure about the slave being mentioned, but presumably it is |
| 17:12.45 | fungus | updating a zone causes bind to send notify messages to all name servers mentioned in NS records, and any additional servers in the zone definition via "also-notify". |
| 17:14.55 | mgeary | cool |
| 17:35.12 | unum | so I have a follow up to my question from the other day. I'm setting up a pgplsql function to check and make sure my data is valid. |
| 17:35.25 | unum | the situation I have is that I have a time card database |
| 17:35.39 | unum | people clock in to their shift and that's store in one table |
| 17:35.53 | unum | they then sign into projects and that's stored in an other table |
| 17:36.30 | unum | so one of the check I am putting into place is that they don't sign into a project before they have clocked into their shift |
| 17:37.30 | unum | now supervisors can adjust the schedule. so a supevisor may notice that an employee clocked in and signed in before he was supposed to. so the supervisor will alter both those at the same time on a web form and press save |
| 17:38.06 | unum | now if things get passed to the database in the wrong order it will throw an error since things are out of wacked |
| 17:38.37 | unum | because of all the many possible ways that things can be changed it seems too difficult to make sure things are always done in the right order |
| 17:38.48 | unum | so I thought of two other ways to handle this. |
| 17:39.28 | unum | one is to do it in the php code. and verify the integrity after all changes have been made |
| 17:40.06 | unum | the other is the apt-get approach. try a couple of times and only pay attention to the last set of errors |
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| 18:18.50 | supernovia | ~lart hackers |
| 18:18.50 | ibot | runs at hackers with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut |
| 18:18.51 | stderr | s/hackers/crackers |
| 18:20.37 | herlo | supernovia: you have your terminology incorrect, hackers are good people, crackers are the bad.... as stderr pointed out :) |
| 18:20.59 | supernovia | so if your site gets hacked that's a good thing? |
| 18:21.15 | herlo | supernovia: yes, that's developing code. But the media has it wrong |
| 18:21.16 | stderr | No. But your use of the term 'hacker' is incorrect. |
| 18:21.24 | herlo | they call it hacking, when it should be cracking |
| 18:21.48 | stderr | hacking is finding creative, unobvious solutions to difficult problems. |
| 18:21.51 | herlo | so when your site gets *cracked* it's a bad thing |
| 18:22.38 | supernovia | interesting. I've always heard it called hacking even by geeky sorts |
| 18:22.43 | stderr | if someone is defacing your website, that's not hacking, since it's simple, amoral, and the internet version of bad grafitti (and most likely automated) |
| 18:22.49 | supernovia | but thanks for that! I'll say it right next time. |
| 18:23.08 | stderr | http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html |
| 18:24.17 | supernovia | is that considered cracking stderr? |
| 18:25.27 | herlo | stderr: nice link :) |
| 18:25.38 | stderr | supernovia: read the "What Is A Hacker?" section. |
| 18:25.42 | stderr | herlo: esr++ |
| 18:26.31 | supernovia | If you want to be a cracker, go read the alt.2600 newsgroup and get ready to do five to ten in the slammer after finding out you aren't as smart as you think you are. And that's all I'm going to say about crackers. |
| 18:26.32 | supernovia | Sounds good. |
| 18:26.54 | herlo | stderr: for sure, my friend. So when did you decide to start going by stderr instead of dataw0lf? |
| 18:27.07 | DexterTheDragon | http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/H/hacker.html vs http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/C/cracker.html |
| 18:27.14 | stderr | herlo: I've been stderr for a long time, but usually the freenode staff uses it as a bot nick. |
| 18:27.22 | herlo | ahh |
| 18:28.35 | herlo | stderr: so have you got it registered now? |
| 18:29.00 | stderr | Nah, I'm negotiating with freenode staff though. |
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| 18:29.25 | olds | _psychic_: yea I was at the game on saturday |
| 18:30.02 | herlo | stderr: well, good luck |
| 18:30.04 | stderr | I actually have |
| 18:30.16 | stderr- | registered. |
| 18:30.29 | herlo | supernovia: np, we like it when people learn the right way |
| 18:30.34 | stderr | supernovia: np |
| 18:31.30 | supernovia | knowing is half the battle! |
| 18:31.40 | supernovia | and |
| 18:32.31 | supernovia | oops. |
| 18:32.55 | stderr | nom tricuits |
| 18:33.01 | supernovia | oh and those all bran crackers. They're actually really good. |
| 18:34.41 | herlo | GI Joe! A real American hero! GI Jooooooeee! Go Joe! |
| 18:35.31 | supernovia | exactly. What ever happened with that movie and the whole 'entity' thing? |
| 18:35.53 | stderr | it's GI Joe against Cobra the enemy! |
| 18:37.10 | supernovia | Of course |
| 18:37.46 | herlo | :) |
| 18:37.47 | supernovia | we'll need a few documentaries on why Cobra acts that way |
| 18:38.02 | supernovia | and how it's actually GI Joe's fault |
| 18:38.07 | herlo | sure, you guys have fun with that, I'm going to go and find me some foodz! |
| 18:39.46 | supernovia | and yeah mgeary, I'm having some granola of course |
| 18:39.59 | mgeary | woot |
| 18:40.04 | stderr | almost.. lunch.. time.. |
| 18:40.09 | mgeary | i almost had granola for breakfast today |
| 18:40.17 | mgeary | but waffles won out |
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| 18:40.36 | supernovia | my kids don't like granola :'( |
| 18:40.48 | mgeary | for the record, i have been to the Birkenstock factory outside of Bonn, Germany multiple times |
| 18:40.56 | supernovia | Nice |
| 18:41.14 | supernovia | For the record I've never owned a pair of birks. |
| 18:41.36 | supernovia | But I have had the same pair of sandals for more than five years. Looking for new footbeds now ;-p |
| 18:41.45 | mgeary | i've had several. i don't care for the sandals, but they have some full-on shoes that are really nice |
| 18:41.55 | mgeary | but they're spendy |
| 18:41.59 | supernovia | yeah, I'm not |
| 18:42.24 | stderr | I need some new boots |
| 18:42.30 | supernovia | most I've ever spent on a pair of shoes = maybe $22 |
| 18:42.40 | stderr | Wore out my last pair of jungles last year :\ |
| 18:42.55 | unum | I've spent a $120 on shoes |
| 18:42.55 | supernovia | nice |
| 18:43.11 | stderr | http://www.armynavymall.com/juboblulfogi.html dang only 30 bucks |
| 18:43.35 | unum | I keep three pairs of shoes |
| 18:43.47 | unum | sneakers, dress shoes, my old sneakers |
| 18:44.02 | unum | my sneakers only last a year |
| 18:44.12 | supernovia | I've got loafers, sandals, sneakers (skate shoes), and boots |
| 18:44.34 | supernovia | oh and a pair of foam clogs for gardening ;-0 |
| 18:44.45 | unum | actually I do have a pair of sandals somewhere |
| 18:44.56 | stderr | I got like 5 pairs of skate shoes >_> <_<, couple pairs of running shoes, and dress loafers |
| 18:45.15 | unum | I now have me dad's boots |
| 18:46.12 | unum | supernovia: no flats, or pumps? |
| 18:46.48 | supernovia | not for me |
| 18:47.10 | supernovia | my boots and loafers work for dress shoes |
| 18:47.38 | supernovia | (they're girly looking) |
| 18:48.01 | supernovia | even so, I wear these sandals pretty much as long as there's no more than an inch of snow |
| 18:48.01 | unum | girl wear sandals a lot for dress clothing as well |
| 18:48.13 | supernovia | exactly |
| 18:54.02 | mindjuju | k, so get this |
| 18:54.48 | mindjuju | if you have "active content" on a page in IE, you get that goofy bar along the top (AFAIK - in repsonse to the patent suit against MS about active content) |
| 18:55.03 | mindjuju | now, there is a funny little thing you can put that will nullify the bar and make everything happy |
| 18:55.05 | mindjuju | it's this |
| 18:55.16 | mindjuju | <!-- saved from url=(0014)about:internet --> |
| 18:55.39 | mindjuju | you slap that in there in the head, IE will think its a saved page, and somehow between active content and local security, no bar |
| 18:55.42 | mindjuju | BUT |
| 18:55.57 | mindjuju | if you have that there, it KILLS all the links from the page pointing to local resources |
| 18:56.12 | mindjuju | btw, i'm making a CD, that's why the local resources are necessary |
| 18:56.15 | mindjuju | grrrr!!!! |
| 18:59.20 | supernovia | lovesly |
| 18:59.29 | mindjuju | yeah |
| 18:59.34 | mindjuju | it's a crime, it's so bad |
| 19:00.31 | mindjuju | what's a flour girl? |
| 19:00.44 | supernovia | Half of a really fantastic bakery / cafe in AF |
| 19:01.11 | supernovia | so next time you want to do a uphpu lunch in north utah county... ;-) |
| 19:03.35 | supernovia | http://flourgirlsdoughboys.com/ - bailout brownies look tastey |
| 19:14.09 | herlo | supernovia: I've got that down |
| 19:14.17 | herlo | mindjuju: btw, geek lunch is supposed to be this friday |
| 19:18.15 | SunSparc | olds: What makes the Bose QuietComfort 2 headphones worth the money, in your opinion? |
| 19:18.48 | herlo | SunSparc: I can speak to that too |
| 19:19.14 | SunSparc | herlo: Tell me more. |
| 19:19.20 | herlo | SunSparc: I've never had a more comfortable pair of headphones. The quality of the sound is great, and on airplanes, I don't hear the engine noise everyone else hears :) |
| 19:19.29 | SunSparc | I have only every been willing to go up to $100 for headphones. |
| 19:19.53 | SunSparc | :) |
| 19:20.13 | SunSparc | So $300 is a steal then? |
| 19:20.19 | herlo | When I fly on a plane, not only can I hear the detail of music, it's crystal clear. |
| 19:20.35 | herlo | Another reason for them is they have a very long (lifetime iirc) warranty |
| 19:21.01 | SunSparc | Wireless is nice... |
| 19:21.18 | herlo | and they're cord design is nice, if you get caught on something, the cord will simply pop-out and not cause damage to the cord and the headphones... |
| 19:21.24 | supernovia | they do sound lovely |
| 19:21.33 | herlo | qc2 doesn't have a wireless version now does it? |
| 19:22.38 | herlo | they are worth their cost... |
| 19:22.55 | olds | our office has this noisy air circulation system |
| 19:22.59 | mgeary | herlo: on that-- |
| 19:23.05 | olds | the noise cancelling is unmatched |
| 19:23.07 | mgeary | i don't like headphones that i have to keep batteries in |
| 19:23.10 | olds | and the sound of the audio is amazing |
| 19:23.19 | mgeary | do they work (well) without the noise-cancelling? |
| 19:23.34 | olds | well, there's no non-noise cancelling |
| 19:23.44 | olds | either they're on and there's sound |
| 19:23.56 | olds | or they're off and there's no sound |
| 19:24.07 | mgeary | you cannot turn off the noise-cancelling? |
| 19:24.11 | olds | no |
| 19:24.16 | mgeary | what happens if the batteries are dead? |
| 19:24.22 | olds | you're sol |
| 19:24.31 | mgeary | the headphones won't work?? |
| 19:24.35 | mgeary | meh |
| 19:24.42 | olds | that's why I keep 2 extras in the carrying case |
| 19:24.53 | olds | I only use these headphones at work |
| 19:25.01 | olds | so it's never been an issue |
| 19:25.03 | mgeary | how long do the batteries tend to live? |
| 19:25.04 | olds | *shrug* |
| 19:25.06 | supernovia | I'd be happy to buy any batteryoperated nice headphones off you if they're too much a PITA |
| 19:25.07 | olds | days |
| 19:25.17 | mgeary | days, not weeks |
| 19:25.19 | mgeary | meh |
| 19:25.23 | mgeary | ~dealbreaker |
| 19:25.23 | herlo | mgeary: they don't work without noise-canceling, but the thing lasts forever |
| 19:25.25 | supernovia | they'd be good for working out |
| 19:25.45 | olds | I'd say the battery lasts 40 hours? |
| 19:25.47 | mgeary | herlo: i'd be willing to pay serious buck for a *sturdy*, high-quality set of headphones |
| 19:26.00 | mgeary | but i hate the thought of chewing through batteries |
| 19:26.07 | olds | don't buy them |
| 19:26.11 | supernovia | the world needs cooler batteries |
| 19:26.13 | herlo | mgeary: you won't go wrong with the qc2's. If you want to try them out sometime, just let me know. I usually have them with me |
| 19:26.23 | _psychic_ | bose++ |
| 19:26.25 | herlo | mgeary: 40+ hours on one AAA battery |
| 19:26.44 | olds | the noise cancelling is nuts |
| 19:26.47 | herlo | http://www.bose.com/controller?url=/shop_online/headphones/noise_cancelling_headphones/quietcomfort_2/index.jsp |
| 19:26.57 | olds | so nice |
| 19:27.05 | herlo | :) yup |
| 19:27.20 | _psychic_ | Having a device on my noggin 6-8 hours a day, I can easily justify spending 150-$300 |
| 19:27.27 | olds | yes |
| 19:27.36 | olds | my coworker had the bose |
| 19:27.37 | herlo | olds: Flying can damage your ears, but I love my bose. Totally can't hear anything. |
| 19:27.39 | olds | I tried them for a day |
| 19:27.41 | olds | I was sold |
| 19:27.59 | herlo | olds: did you notice the first few times you put them on that sense of wanting to pop your ears? |
| 19:28.05 | _psychic_ | I have these: http://www.bose.com/controller?url=/shop_online/headphones/audio_headphones/around_ear_headphones/index.jsp |
| 19:28.10 | olds | a little bit |
| 19:28.12 | herlo | that was probably the strangest sensation, but after that, it was awesome... |
| 19:28.24 | mgeary | _psychic_: i agree. i just can't find something i feel good about |
| 19:28.33 | _psychic_ | it takes some exploring |
| 19:28.49 | herlo | _psychic_: I think those don't have the noise cancelling. Which is totally worth it |
| 19:28.59 | _psychic_ | one step at a time, I guess |
| 19:29.07 | herlo | :) |
| 19:29.16 | mgeary | i think i'd prefer NOT to have noise-cancelling if i can't turn it off |
| 19:29.21 | _psychic_ | If I was 100% pure developer, I'd go noise cancelling |
| 19:29.22 | mgeary | i need to hear ambient noise sometimes |
| 19:29.27 | _psychic_ | yeah that's my deal |
| 19:29.28 | mgeary | exactly |
| 19:29.46 | _psychic_ | I manage half the time, and I need to be interruptable to some degree |
| 19:29.48 | olds | I take them off |
| 19:29.59 | olds | or put them slightly off my ear |
| 19:30.03 | olds | on one side |
| 19:30.08 | herlo | mgeary: so get this, if you leave the noise canceling on, it's not going to remove room noise, just the white noise |
| 19:30.19 | olds | yea that's true |
| 19:30.23 | herlo | if you don't have your music up too loud, you can hear just fine |
| 19:30.30 | herlo | we used to do it all the time at GL |
| 19:30.38 | mgeary | okay |
| 19:31.12 | herlo | btw, if you wanna try them locally, the Outlets up at Kimball Junction have a bose outlet. That's where I bought mine |
| 19:31.25 | mgeary | ok |
| 19:31.27 | olds | I bought mine at the apple store |
| 19:31.33 | olds | same price |
| 19:31.52 | olds | yup |
| 19:31.58 | mgeary | how much, $300? |
| 19:32.02 | olds | yep |
| 19:32.16 | mgeary | http://www.asenashop.com/ivn/pr-0/11975.html |
| 19:32.24 | mgeary | $249 |
| 19:32.28 | mgeary | but out of stock |
| 19:32.33 | herlo | other than I won't go into an apple store to buy stuff, can't justify them getting my money |
| 19:32.44 | herlo | mgeary: the $249 means they are refurbs |
| 19:32.56 | herlo | be careful |
| 19:33.00 | mgeary | ah |
| 19:33.05 | olds | _psychic_: were you at the game? |
| 19:33.24 | _psychic_ | no :( |
| 19:33.29 | olds | it was awesome |
| 19:33.31 | _psychic_ | watched the second half last night |
| 19:33.36 | _psychic_ | dude I bet |
| 19:33.42 | olds | all the goals were in front of my seats |
| 19:33.56 | _psychic_ | andy's set piece was pretty |
| 19:34.01 | olds | yea |
| 19:34.11 | olds | there was this feeling before the free kick |
| 19:34.14 | olds | you just knew it was going in |
| 19:34.42 | _psychic_ | there was that feeling the whole second half! |
| 19:34.52 | olds | haha that's true |
| 19:35.11 | supernovia | what game was this I keep hearing mentioned? |
| 19:35.11 | olds | one thing I love about the new stadium |
| 19:35.26 | olds | is that they don't interrupt the game with their silly advertising |
| 19:35.38 | olds | "fans, get on your feet for a Mountain America corner kick!" |
| 19:35.47 | olds | that drove me nuts |
| 19:36.11 | _psychic_ | I read an article about the in-seat concessions |
| 19:36.33 | herlo | supernovia: real salt lake |
| 19:36.34 | olds | 1 problem, the concessions are so insanely overpriced |
| 19:36.46 | herlo | since these nerds are not willing to tell you :) |
| 19:36.47 | olds | it's just not worth it |
| 19:36.52 | olds | lol sorry |
| 19:37.13 | olds | $7 for a boiled hot dog? |
| 19:37.18 | _psychic_ | bummer |
| 19:37.21 | olds | c'mon now |
| 19:39.09 | olds | it's a shame we can't win a game on the road |
| 19:39.21 | _psychic_ | all in good time, hopefully |
| 19:39.30 | _psychic_ | we're getting better at finishing |
| 19:40.09 | olds | yea |
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| 19:40.37 | supernovia | thanks herlo ;-) |
| 19:42.12 | _psychic_ | (10 NY minutes) |
| 19:42.29 | herlo | it *is* only an estimate :) |
| 19:42.59 | supernovia | True. |
| 19:43.34 | unum | if you gave estimates like that for your bids you'd go bankrupt pretty fast |
| 19:44.01 | unum | if we gave estimates like that in our reports we'd be out of business real fast |
| 19:49.19 | supernovia | Actually, if I give people an estimate for 1200 and it ended up costing 1/5th that, I think they'd come back often ;) |
| 19:49.56 | orsonj | (assuming they went with you in the first place) |
| 19:54.17 | SunSparc | Unless your work was awesome and quick. |
| 19:54.18 | supernovia | Valid point :) |
| 19:54.37 | supernovia | oh hey SunSparc |
| 19:54.42 | supernovia | may I pm you? |
| 19:54.57 | SunSparc | heh, I don't think PM's require permission. :) |
| 19:55.02 | supernovia | hehe ok |
| 19:55.51 | unum | I think I need to go home. |
| 19:56.43 | supernovia | at 2 eh? You ok unum? |
| 19:58.04 | unum | I can't concentrate |
| 19:58.43 | supernovia | ah, when that happens I typically have to close irc ;-) |
| 19:59.18 | unum | I'm tired i need a nap |
| 20:01.35 | unum | I think my alergies are killing me |
| 20:03.34 | supernovia | I need a nap too fwiw |
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| 21:00.12 | _psychic_ | you too |
| 21:19.19 | herlo | http://imgur.com/27K39.jpg |
| 21:21.45 | SunSparc | The beginning of swine flu, eh? |
| 21:21.59 | herlo | Heartsbane provided that in another channel :) |
| 21:23.49 | Heartsbane | and I got it from someone in another channel, and it wasn't macnewbold :P |
| 21:23.57 | Heartsbane | cause he isn't funny at all |
| 21:24.03 | macnewbold | ~lart Heartsbane |
| 21:24.03 | ibot | crushes Heartsbane with a full height scsi disk |
| 21:25.19 | Heartsbane | :P |
| 21:31.10 | stderr | http://izismile.com/2009/04/27/one_of_the_most_expensive_restaurants_in_the_world_25_pics.html |
| 21:37.00 | SunSparc | Nice, stderr. Nice lunch place, for pocket change. |
| 21:37.51 | _psychic_ | ouch |
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| 21:46.07 | mindjuju | @fungus - naughty naughty vegans - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUnKsr3wSEM |
| 21:46.12 | mindjuju | ~apb herlo |
| 21:47.37 | fungus | lol |
| 21:48.17 | carmony_mac | Grrrr, MAMP's website is down |
| 21:49.53 | _psychic_ | maybe she's also seeking amy |
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| 21:51.25 | PoeticIntensity | Changed your name, eh, dataw0lf? |
| 21:51.39 | mgeary | 'es changed it BACK |
| 21:51.44 | PoeticIntensity | ah... |
| 21:51.46 | PoeticIntensity | I see. |
| 21:51.52 | supernovia | gotta know, why stderr? |
| 21:52.19 | PoeticIntensity | man... The more I learn about C# / .NET.... |
| 21:52.23 | PoeticIntensity | ugh. |
| 21:52.32 | carmony_mac | LOL |
| 21:52.34 | supernovia | not sure how to pronounce it except to say the first three letters plus err. and that doesn't sound so great |
| 21:52.45 | PoeticIntensity | LOL |
| 21:52.50 | PoeticIntensity | that's awesome, supernovia |
| 21:52.55 | PoeticIntensity | stduuurrrr |
| 21:53.07 | supernovia | hehe |
| 21:53.16 | fungus | standard error |
| 21:53.19 | fungus | :) |
| 21:53.43 | supernovia | so you pronounce it 'standard error'? |
| 21:54.06 | herlo | mindjuju: hi |
| 21:54.28 | fungus | nah, I like STD'er |
| 21:54.33 | fungus | ;) |
| 21:54.51 | PoeticIntensity | too much fun |
| 21:55.30 | herlo | mindjuju: I'm here now :) |
| 21:55.37 | supernovia | hehe |
| 21:55.52 | PoeticIntensity | anyone have any good "late afternoon distraction goodness"? |
| 21:56.01 | supernovia | Sure, seen auto-tune the news? |
| 21:56.09 | PoeticIntensity | nope. |
| 21:56.16 | supernovia | turns out katie couric is quite the singer |
| 21:56.42 | fungus | http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2009/04/the-pirate-bay-verdict-goes-english-and-we-dish-the-dirt.ars |
| 21:57.07 | PoeticIntensity | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBb4cjjj1gI |
| 21:57.11 | supernovia | the idea - use an auto tuner on news broadcasts then add backup singers |
| 21:57.33 | stderr | auto tuner can make anything sound good. Look at the past 15 years of pop. |
| 21:57.57 | supernovia | the katie couric part in the middle is awesome :-) |
| 21:58.27 | supernovia | uh, there's a bad word in case anyone else has kids w. them |
| 21:58.50 | stderr | http://twitter.com/_why/status/1640180235 |
| 21:59.14 | olds | if you haven't already, this is quite entertaining: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWRyj5cHIQA |
| 21:59.16 | supernovia | hehe stderr |
| 22:04.05 | supernovia | does the guy really say 'slap your troubles away' ? |
| 22:04.10 | olds | yes |
| 22:04.13 | herlo | yes |
| 22:04.43 | supernovia | goodness. hehe |
| 22:07.03 | supernovia | that was lovely, olds |
| 22:08.03 | stderr | ah, I see people were making the classic "STD" jokes about my nick |
| 22:08.24 | stderr | try calling tech support and telling them your username is "s" "t" "d" "e" "r" "r" |
| 22:08.28 | stderr | "S T D?!" |
| 22:08.36 | stderr | "*sigh*. Yes, it's a geek thing." |
| 22:08.54 | stderr | "I don't have the HIV, I promise. :(" (I actually say "colon parentheses") |
| 22:09.13 | utahcon | sit and wait... |
| 22:09.32 | PoeticIntensity | olds... *that* was hilarious |
| 22:10.56 | supernovia | that was pretty awesome huh? the news thing was only really funny on the thin ice part I thought (kinda overdid the rest) |
| 22:11.02 | supernovia | and sorry stderr |
| 22:12.59 | stderr | ;-) |
| 22:13.20 | utahcon | olds: some people have way too much time |
| 22:13.38 | stderr | or... just enough. |
| 22:13.49 | utahcon | maybe |
| 22:18.06 | SunSparc | That auto-tune was great. All the news should be auto-tuned. |
| 22:18.41 | supernovia | did you see the slapper thingy SunSparc? |
| 22:18.55 | SunSparc | Yep, saw that yesterday. Good stuff :) |
| 22:19.37 | SunSparc | And I am happy to say, that disease is not the first thing I think of when I see the nick: stderr |
| 22:23.16 | SunSparc | stderr: That _why twitter is funny. I like this one also: http://twitter.com/_why/status/1543846890 |
| 22:25.36 | stderr | SunSparc: yea, why is a funny guy. Also, a spectacular genius. |
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| 22:25.48 | SunSparc | More humorous than Vader |
| 22:30.32 | SunSparc | supernovia: We have used Mall Dental. Not amazing, but seem to have decent prices. |
| 22:30.53 | SunSparc | Mrs. SunSparc could probably tell you more. |
| 22:35.13 | supernovia | Ah |
| 22:35.54 | supernovia | Yeah I need to find out how much it costs at various places. It's bad timing for two big old cavities in my little girl! |
| 22:36.30 | SunSparc | Yeah, not fun |
| 22:43.24 | supernovia | baby root canals! |
| 22:43.52 | utahcon | seriously? wow... how old? |
| 22:43.58 | SunSparc | :( |
| 22:44.07 | supernovia | She's 6 |
| 22:44.10 | stderr | :\ |
| 22:44.14 | supernovia | think I should wait till those teeth just fall out? :S |
| 22:44.27 | stderr | nah, they'll put her out |
| 22:44.29 | SunSparc | Not if she is in pain |
| 22:44.43 | SunSparc | supernovia: ^ |
| 22:45.03 | supernovia | Yeah she surely was last night too :-( |
| 22:45.34 | SunSparc | Did the Tylenol help at all? |
| 22:45.41 | supernovia | Yeah it did. she hasn't complained since then |
| 22:45.46 | SunSparc | Good |
| 22:47.05 | supernovia | but obviously they need to be taken care of :-( did you see the holes? |
| 22:47.50 | supernovia | and stderr I doubt they'll put her out. sucks to be uninsured & fairly broke ;-( |
| 22:48.09 | stderr | ahhhh :\ |
| 22:48.24 | SunSparc | supernovia: No, I did not. I just saw her pain. |
| 22:51.51 | supernovia | looks like baby root canals only add $95 to the cost of the filling so .. if she needs 2.. |
| 22:52.25 | SunSparc | That is not too bad. |
| 22:53.58 | beandog | just give her some really hard candy, and that'll be the end of that |
| 22:55.35 | supernovia | yeah these cavities are huge and seemed to have come out of nowhere. she says they started hurting when she was chewing some gum :-( I'm guessing they were there (in between her teeth) but not visible |
| 22:56.57 | SunSparc | Gotta run all! |
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| 23:15.00 | supernovia | hi Utah_Dave |
| 23:15.43 | Utah_Dave | hey, how's it going, supernovia? |
| 23:18.10 | supernovia | Oh you know. It's going |
| 23:18.14 | supernovia | playing tetris with my life |
| 23:18.46 | supernovia | at least the background music is nice eh? |
| 23:19.34 | supernovia | how are you Utah_Dave? |
| 23:20.05 | Utah_Dave | pretty good! I took off early from work to spend a little time at home with my wife and daughter |
| 23:20.11 | supernovia | Ah! do it :) |
| 23:20.30 | Utah_Dave | My sister-in-law just had her third daughter about 20 minutes ago. |
| 23:20.42 | Utah_Dave | My mother-in-law just texted us the good news! |
| 23:21.12 | mindjuju | congrats! |
| 23:21.19 | Utah_Dave | thanks! |
| 23:22.18 | Utah_Dave | I'm starting to work on code for teaching long division to 4th graders for the OLPC project |
| 23:22.30 | supernovia | Neat! |
| 23:22.59 | supernovia | I need to try to get back into the olpc groove. We were doing a simple portal site |
| 23:23.12 | Utah_Dave | cool! |
| 23:23.35 | supernovia | trying to sort out the usefulness of various sites on the net (like spellingcity.com and starfall.com or the library of virtual math manipulatives) |
| 23:23.45 | mindjuju | it's flooding in the Motherland! - http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/6395973.html |
| 23:23.46 | supernovia | I ended up stopping before I started :-( |
| 23:24.07 | supernovia | nice mindjuju! |
| 23:24.09 | supernovia | :-S |
| 23:24.32 | supernovia | I did put together a really ugly portal site though in the meantime :-p more for my kids school at this point |
| 23:24.49 | mindjuju | lived like 2 minutes from that intersection - Highway 6 and Clay Road |
| 23:24.49 | supernovia | & there's no programming logic behind it whatsoever :-( |
| 23:24.53 | supernovia | wow. |
| 23:25.05 | supernovia | vegas floods like that when it floods |
| 23:25.32 | supernovia | it's like a big dish. does Houston have that topography as well? |
| 23:26.19 | mindjuju | some parts |
| 23:26.32 | supernovia | how about that part? |
| 23:26.50 | mindjuju | well, there is a flood plain to the south about 10 miles |
| 23:27.06 | mindjuju | but that part they are talking about doesn't usually get pounded like that |
| 23:28.09 | supernovia | do you ever go back to visit? |
| 23:28.29 | mindjuju | haven't been back for almost 6 years, would love to go back and visit |
| 23:30.34 | supernovia | that is one state I have never been to and quite possibly never will ;/ |
| 23:31.34 | mindjuju | this is sad / funny / sad - http://failblog.org/2009/03/30/kids-computer-desk-ad-fail/ |
| 23:33.01 | supernovia | oohoh, that's bad |
| 23:33.10 | supernovia | and now my kids are wondering what I'm laughing about :-p |
| 23:33.21 | mindjuju | :) |
| 23:33.57 | supernovia | hopefully it's faked right? |
| 23:34.01 | mindjuju | supernovia - show them this |
| 23:34.02 | mindjuju | http://failblog.org/2009/04/06/spare-tire-fail/ |
| 23:34.14 | mindjuju | actually, AFAIK, that was taken from a publication ad |
| 23:36.55 | supernovia | Nice spare tire :-) |
| 23:37.16 | supernovia | My girl is busy brushing her teeth now |
| 23:38.29 | mindjuju | supernovia, looks like maybe that failblog pic was photoshoped |
| 23:38.32 | mindjuju | here is original http://www.computerdesks.com/computer-carts/workstation-carts/widetwoshelfworkstation.cfm |
| 23:39.54 | Utah_Dave | well, I'm off to take my daughter for a walk. |
| 23:40.00 | Utah_Dave | later, everyone |
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| 23:40.06 | supernovia | see ya |
| 23:40.38 | supernovia | there ya go |
| 23:41.07 | supernovia | have a good night guys :) |
| 23:41.12 | mindjuju | cya |
| 23:49.04 | beandog | oy |
| 23:49.08 | beandog | work, work, work |
| 23:49.41 | beandog | I finally decided on a binary standard for mysql |
| 23:49.45 | beandog | enum (0,1) |
| 23:49.46 | beandog | :D |
| 23:49.49 | beandog | I can still use intval |
| 23:49.52 | beandog | and it's easy on the GUIs |
| 23:50.51 | beandog | hmm I wonder if Im gonna have to quote the values. |
| 23:50.56 | beandog | that would suck. |
| 23:51.07 | DexterTheDragon | thats why I hate enum(0,1) |
| 23:51.12 | beandog | nope, doesnt look like it |
| 23:51.30 | herlo | beandog: you are back |
| 23:51.33 | DexterTheDragon | really? I always had to quote them |
| 23:51.45 | beandog | DexterTheDragon, yah, that's odd ... I figured *for sure* I'd have to. |
| 23:51.46 | herlo | yay! beandog is back |
| 23:51.54 | beandog | may be my new client. This one actually supports ctl-c |
| 23:51.57 | beandog | they fixed that annoying bug |
| 23:52.01 | beandog | herlo, holas :D |
| 23:52.06 | herlo | beandog: fixed the planet |
| 23:52.07 | beandog | or non-feature, I guess I should say |
| 23:52.13 | beandog | herlo, yah I saw your post, right on man. :) |
| 23:52.25 | herlo | stupid network monkeys |
| 23:52.26 | beandog | herlo, btw, how do we get a custom avatar on there? |
| 23:52.31 | herlo | beandog: sure |
| 23:52.41 | herlo | want one? send it my way in a pm |
| 23:52.54 | beandog | I need to send you that gravatar patch |
| 23:52.56 | beandog | makes things siiiiiiimple |
| 23:53.02 | herlo | beandog: yeppers! |
| 23:53.07 | herlo | beandog: we could do that tonight |
| 23:53.13 | herlo | if you have time |
| 23:53.15 | beandog | herlo, i fyou wanna send me your config, I can just send you back a diff |
| 23:53.23 | beandog | just need index.html.tmpl |
| 23:53.27 | herlo | k |
| 23:53.39 | herlo | could you also help me figure out how to adjust to the current time in my template? |
| 23:53.55 | beandog | DexterTheDragon, the weird thing is I know its storing it as a varchar, it has a charset assigned to it. That is just all kinds of conflicting oddity. |
| 23:54.03 | beandog | herlo, what do you mean |
| 23:54.18 | beandog | mysql gotchas-- |
| 23:54.25 | eggyknap | mysql-- |
| 23:54.41 | beandog | I can't convince my boss to switch to postgres. |
| 23:54.42 | beandog | yet. |
| 23:54.48 | beandog | maybe a few more drugs in his coke. |
| 23:54.51 | herlo | beandog: it's currently representing utc time |
| 23:54.58 | beandog | herlo, ah, k |
| 23:54.59 | herlo | beandog: check your email :) |
| 23:55.01 | beandog | kk |
| 23:55.17 | beandog | you've got mail! |
| 23:55.28 | DexterTheDragon | beandog: you should test it. I seem to remember that it seemed like it worked without the quotes, but it did odd things |
| 23:56.14 | beandog | DexterTheDragon, hmm, random oddity would not be good either. |
| 23:56.14 | beandog | DexterTheDragon, what do yo uuse for bools |
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| 23:56.40 | DexterTheDragon | boolean |
| 23:56.41 | beandog | yah |
| 23:56.41 | beandog | usually I do |
| 23:56.47 | beandog | but I get anal about how it doesn't set it unsigned. |
| 23:56.47 | mindjuju | dexterthedragon, ravetrax is playing some awesome stuff |
| 23:56.53 | beandog | mindjuju, \o/ |
| 23:57.03 | mindjuju | ~apb herlo |
| 23:57.07 | herlo | mindjuju: pong |
| 23:57.16 | herlo | mindjuju: I've replied ever time :) |
| 23:57.29 | herlo | we keep playing ping-pong :) |
| 23:57.37 | mindjuju | yeah, i know, I just finished my stuff, swinging over to WP |
| 23:57.43 | herlo | oh :) |
| 23:57.46 | beandog | wp? |
| 23:57.50 | herlo | wordpress |
| 23:57.54 | mindjuju | u is good, tis i who is playing funky schedule today |
| 23:58.09 | herlo | mindjuju: play that funky schedule white boi!! |
| 23:58.17 | herlo | :) |
| 23:58.19 | mindjuju | :) |
| 23:58.57 | beandog | herlo, oh, snap I just thought of something |
| 23:59.06 | beandog | you may have to modify the planet code to allow for the gravatar field type |
| 23:59.22 | beandog | can't remember for sure, lemme look |
| 23:59.41 | beandog | herlo, unless you just wanna use the old "face" one for them instead |
| 23:59.48 | beandog | ditching the custom avatars completely |
