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| 01:21.26 | herlo | SLLUG meeting streamed online - Consumer NAS Devices - http://stream.utos.org:8080 |
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| 01:36.35 | herlo | mindjuju: ping |
| 01:36.41 | mindjuju | pong |
| 01:36.46 | herlo | hey |
| 01:36.47 | mindjuju | and yes, i'm listening |
| 01:36.54 | mindjuju | they're saying something about usb |
| 01:36.57 | herlo | mindjuju: cool, hows it sounding? |
| 01:36.58 | mindjuju | i just tuned in though |
| 01:37.03 | herlo | they're having fun tech difficulties |
| 01:37.04 | mindjuju | sounds r good |
| 01:37.09 | herlo | tx |
| 01:37.21 | mindjuju | technical difficulties? |
| 01:37.23 | mindjuju | during a presentation? |
| 01:37.29 | mindjuju | no way!, never happened to me!!! |
| 01:37.50 | mindjuju | and all the scrambling he does just prior to the meet |
| 01:38.04 | mindjuju | ...sigh... |
| 01:38.20 | herlo | hehe |
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| 14:52.30 | carmony | morning everyone |
| 14:52.38 | utahcon | hey carmony |
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| 15:18.34 | herlo | hi all |
| 15:18.46 | utahcon | ~lart herlo |
| 15:18.46 | ibot | strangles herlo with a 9-pole serial cable |
| 15:19.01 | herlo | utahcon: why? don't wanna come to a meeting next Wednesday or something? |
| 15:19.03 | utahcon | I am a serial killer! |
| 15:19.08 | herlo | heh |
| 15:19.20 | utahcon | nah I am cool with the meeting |
| 15:19.28 | utahcon | in fact... I was the first to respond yes :D |
| 15:19.29 | herlo | kk |
| 15:19.55 | utahcon | I was just in the mood to lart |
| 15:19.58 | utahcon | and you walked in |
| 15:20.16 | utahcon | it stems from a lack of knowledge about what the bot can really do. |
| 15:20.43 | herlo | nw, I understand your desire... |
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| 16:21.33 | mindjuju | ~google++ |
| 16:22.12 | *** topic/#UPHPU by mindjuju -> Meeting Today @ 7p -- Fungus (Lonnie Olson) presenting on SSL + Apache || Utah PHP Users Group || uphpu.org || UTOS announces conference for 2009! - http://tinyurl.com/utosc2009-venue |
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| 16:31.01 | mgeary | ~karma google |
| 16:31.01 | ibot | google has karma of 3 |
| 16:31.06 | mgeary | ~karma mgeary |
| 16:31.06 | ibot | mgeary has karma of 17 |
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| 16:32.08 | mindjuju | ah thebigdog is here |
| 16:32.12 | mindjuju | here's one for ya bud |
| 16:32.17 | mindjuju | http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20090416/ennew_afp/entertainmentbritainfuneralsmusicoffbeat |
| 16:32.38 | mindjuju | in a nutshell, 'Highway To Hell" - AC/DC. is getting more popular at funerals |
| 16:32.54 | mindjuju | along with some other good 'uns |
| 16:33.12 | mindjuju | like Queen "Another one bites the dust" |
| 16:41.07 | herlo | okay, so this is a lame question, but can anyone help me identify what's going on here? |
| 16:41.14 | herlo | specifically, I need someone with ie8 |
| 16:41.19 | herlo | and ie7 |
| 16:41.54 | herlo | please, if you can, visit http://blog.mymemoriessuite.com and then compare it with what's going on in FF2/FF3 |
| 16:42.17 | herlo | it's strange, and I don't see how it's different. I had this all fixed, now I'm annoyed... |
| 16:44.07 | burnin | anyone with ie7 going to look? I can take a peek, but have to reboot into Windows. |
| 16:46.04 | burnin | <EMBED src="cricket-chirp.wav"> |
| 16:46.18 | herlo | burnin: thanks man :) |
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| 16:47.08 | burnin | laptop is rebooting into xp now. |
| 16:49.40 | SunSparc | For games, I hope. |
| 16:49.49 | SunSparc | No other good reason to do so. |
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| 16:50.43 | burnin | herlo: so there are links on the right column in FF3 but not in IE7 |
| 16:51.45 | burnin | herlo: do you not include the links if its IE? I don't see them anywhere in IE. |
| 16:52.16 | burnin | can do a screenshot if needed. |
| 16:53.48 | burnin | hmm, I see the sidebar div in the source |
| 17:00.00 | SunSparc | ~IE-- |
| 17:00.07 | SunSparc | ~Safari++ |
| 17:04.51 | burnin | herlo: have you ran it through any of the html validators? |
| 17:09.33 | herlo | k, hang on |
| 17:12.31 | SunSparc | ~karma IE |
| 17:12.31 | ibot | ie has karma of -20 |
| 17:12.39 | SunSparc | ~karma Safari |
| 17:12.39 | ibot | safari has karma of 8 |
| 17:14.37 | herlo | okay sorry, getting pulled in 20 different directions |
| 17:14.50 | herlo | burnin: I do include the links |
| 17:15.00 | herlo | in IE8, the entire white background disappears |
| 17:15.27 | herlo | burnin: can you provide me with a list / reference of these html validators... |
| 17:15.34 | herlo | ones you recommend? |
| 17:16.46 | herlo | oh, man! 103 errors and most of them are xhtml issues (from validator.w3.org) |
| 17:17.10 | burnin | http://www.w3schools.com/site/site_validate.asp |
| 17:17.52 | burnin | I was thinking that maybe there were missing tags or extras. |
| 17:18.19 | burnin | or maybe IE just sucks. :) |
| 17:18.31 | herlo | dunno |
| 17:18.53 | herlo | in fact, I tolerate the stuff for the most part. |
| 17:22.50 | SunSparc | burnin: You have successfully determined the problem. IE just sucks. |
| 17:22.54 | SunSparc | ~lart IE |
| 17:22.54 | ibot | changes IE's permissions to 0777 and tells the world |
| 17:22.59 | SunSparc | ~IE-- |
| 17:28.08 | burnin | chmod a-x ie.exe |
| 17:28.34 | burnin | chcon -t never_exec_t ie.exe |
| 17:29.35 | SunSparc | cat /dev/null/ > ie.exe |
| 17:30.20 | burnin | dd if=/dev/zero of=ie.exe bs=1 count=1 |
| 17:30.34 | SunSparc | Nice |
| 17:33.14 | burnin | hmm, I have <?php header('Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1');?> before anything is sent but a lynx header dump still shows Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 |
| 17:39.22 | SunSparc | Are any other files being included? |
| 17:40.12 | thebigdog | does your web server change it when it sends it out |
| 17:41.16 | burnin | I'm not getting an error saying the header was already sent, so I'm assuming that it being changed. |
| 17:41.28 | burnin | something in the apache config then? |
| 17:42.20 | burnin | AddDefaultCharset UTF-8 |
| 17:43.20 | thebigdog | yeah possibly |
| 17:43.50 | thebigdog | SunSparc, do you care about the charset? |
| 17:43.56 | burnin | hmm, that removed the UTF-8, but the php header function still doesn't add the iso charset |
| 17:45.17 | SunSparc | thebigdog: ? |
| 17:46.10 | SunSparc | I have a deep and abiding love for the character set. Please do not kill it. ;) |
| 17:47.15 | herlo | gah! so many things going on! |
| 17:47.51 | herlo | burnin: I like the chcon command. That should go on a tshirt |
| 17:48.03 | SunSparc | jbot, remove some things from herlo's plate |
| 17:48.11 | herlo | but that's the point! |
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| 17:49.05 | thebigdog | sorry SunSparc i was thinking was you |
| 17:49.26 | SunSparc | :D |
| 18:04.41 | herlo | http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/17/us/politics/17train.html?_r=2&src=twt&twt=nytimes |
| 18:04.55 | herlo | SunSparc: btw, thanks for that :) |
| 18:05.10 | SunSparc | :) |
| 18:09.31 | mindjuju | herlo, interesting post, i know trains are heavily used in other countries, I wonder if it will be as heavily used here |
| 18:10.09 | mindjuju | though i agree that we need to reduce on consumption of oil |
| 18:16.22 | herlo | they are in the East |
| 18:17.10 | mindjuju | though i did spend some time in southern Virginia |
| 18:17.34 | mindjuju | i think Americans REALLY like driving their cars though, is what i mean |
| 18:17.41 | mindjuju | it'll take a big shift to get us there |
| 18:17.59 | mindjuju | though i like the idea of the PUMA posted by utahcon |
| 18:18.31 | mindjuju | herlo, did you see what happened to those Domino employees? |
| 18:18.44 | mindjuju | Civil Lawsuit and felony charges! Yipes! |
| 18:18.51 | mindjuju | http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/16/business/media/16dominos.html?em |
| 18:20.54 | burnin | aside from the emotional attachment most American's have with their cars it just seems so much more convenient than walking to the bus stop and waiting in the elements. |
| 18:21.11 | mindjuju | yes that's true |
| 18:21.23 | mindjuju | while I was in China, it was first time i was without a car for a year |
| 18:21.26 | mindjuju | you get used to it |
| 18:21.37 | mindjuju | tons more trips to the grocery store as you can only carry so much |
| 18:27.28 | unum | mass transit is nice for the work commute |
| 18:27.45 | unum | but ya grocery shopping was my least favorite thing about not having a car |
| 18:28.17 | unum | when I was in DC they had underground shoping complexes so you could pretty much go to the basement of your appartment and buy groceries |
| 18:31.32 | herlo | mindjuju: dumasses!! |
| 18:35.06 | mindjuju | huh? |
| 18:35.24 | mindjuju | oh, the dominos people |
| 18:35.31 | mindjuju | yeah, did you see the vid/ |
| 18:36.01 | mindjuju | twas crazy, it'll make you think twice before eating anything prepare by someone other than you |
| 18:43.53 | mgeary | meh. it's all protein ;) |
| 18:44.05 | mindjuju | :) |
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| 18:58.39 | utahcon | alright... who pinged me? |
| 18:58.49 | utahcon | no one... neat |
| 18:59.10 | SunSparc | ~pong utahcon |
| 18:59.11 | ibot | utahcon: PONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 18:59.45 | mgeary | ~pester utahcon |
| 18:59.46 | ibot | utahcon: Are we there yet? .. Are we there yet? .. Are we there yet? see http://beverlys.net/LJ/BuggingYou.swf |
| 19:00.25 | utahcon | excellent |
| 19:01.39 | mindjuju | ~apb fungus |
| 19:01.40 | ibot | ACTION hires Leland to spray mace at fungus |
| 19:02.05 | fungus | heh, that scared me. |
| 19:02.20 | mindjuju | sorry, was goign to see if you needed anything special for tonight |
| 19:02.24 | mindjuju | or just a projector? |
| 19:02.47 | fungus | I wrote an xchat plugin that announces my hilights with a voice recently. Quite disconcerting. |
| 19:03.04 | mindjuju | that's awesome! |
| 19:03.08 | fungus | just a projector will be fine. |
| 19:03.14 | mindjuju | does it say something cool? |
| 19:03.18 | mindjuju | movie quote perhaps? |
| 19:03.26 | macnewbold | I'm going to be at the meeting tonight, but probably not at applebees :( |
| 19:03.36 | mindjuju | dag! |
| 19:03.58 | fungus | It says "Attention, <nickname> mentioned you" |
| 19:04.18 | fungus | It's kinda scary. when two people mention me at once. |
| 19:04.29 | macnewbold | ibot: greet fungus |
| 19:04.30 | ibot | ACTION dumps a bucket of cold oatmeal on fungus |
| 19:04.34 | macnewbold | like that? |
| 19:04.48 | fungus | yeah, but that didn't work cause xchat is in the foreground. |
| 19:04.50 | fungus | :) |
| 19:04.57 | macnewbold | bah |
| 19:04.58 | macnewbold | no fun |
| 19:05.00 | mindjuju | he gotcha there |
| 19:05.36 | utahcon | xchat... hmmm neat! |
| 19:05.59 | fungus | Well I kinda cheated for the voice stuff. |
| 19:06.14 | fungus | It opens an ssh session to my mac and runs the "say" command. |
| 19:06.25 | SunSparc | say rocks |
| 19:07.00 | utahcon | why does it open an ssh session? |
| 19:07.11 | fungus | because xchat is running on my linux box |
| 19:07.28 | utahcon | and tha mac is where you are listening to things? |
| 19:07.37 | fungus | yup |
| 19:07.45 | fungus | the mac mini has a built in speaker |
| 19:08.03 | utahcon | mhm ok |
| 19:08.22 | fungus | I tried Festival on linux, but that voice was frightening. |
| 19:08.39 | thebigdog | fungus, i thought you used iirc |
| 19:09.09 | utahcon | I am surprised he doesn't use pidgin |
| 19:09.11 | thebigdog | or some commandline client |
| 19:09.12 | fungus | Nah, switched to xchat a while ago. |
| 19:09.14 | utahcon | and now I wonder why he doesn't |
| 19:09.24 | thebigdog | i hate using pidgin for irc |
| 19:09.31 | fungus | Pidgin sucks for IRC |
| 19:09.32 | thebigdog | xchat is where its at |
| 19:09.51 | fungus | xchat, or irssi |
| 19:09.59 | thebigdog | yeah irssi was the one |
| 19:09.59 | fungus | or Colloquy if you are on a mac |
| 19:10.13 | utahcon | ok I'll try it |
| 19:10.24 | thebigdog | or xchat on windows |
| 19:10.26 | thebigdog | hehe |
| 19:10.38 | SunSparc | Or Mibbit |
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| 19:11.27 | mib_rpansj | Mibbit |
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| 19:11.51 | fungus | pfft... windows. |
| 19:12.21 | SunSparc | I love Windows. |
| 19:12.24 | fungus | I actually like the xchat-gnome. Pretty good integration with the desktop, and simplified setup. |
| 19:12.24 | SunSparc | For Steam games. |
| 19:12.46 | mindjuju | i love steam |
| 19:12.59 | mindjuju | just wish you could move games from accounts to accounts |
| 19:13.03 | fungus | eh, WoW is all I need |
| 19:14.09 | SunSparc | fungus: Have you seen ST:TOR? |
| 19:14.14 | SunSparc | I mean SW |
| 19:14.34 | fungus | nope, what is that. |
| 19:14.39 | SunSparc | http://www.swtor.com/ |
| 19:15.28 | fungus | interesting. |
| 19:15.54 | SunSparc | Basically, Star Wars version of WoW, or so it would seem. |
| 19:16.36 | SunSparc | What realm are you on, fungus? I am on Draka. |
| 19:16.41 | fungus | Windrunner |
| 19:17.14 | SunSparc | See, the problem with realms is that if you want to play with new people you have to join a new realm and start a new character or pay to move it. |
| 19:17.38 | fungus | Yeah, that is a bummer. |
| 19:17.48 | SunSparc | I wish all of WoW was on one realm, but that would probably be chaotic and crowded. |
| 19:17.56 | fungus | lol, no doubt |
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| 19:21.52 | SunSparc | Been teaching my 6 year old to play. He likes it. |
| 19:25.35 | burnin | WoW, ugh |
| 19:25.36 | burnin | :) |
| 19:26.01 | unum | same here |
| 19:26.06 | burnin | it was fun, for awhile, but the hours upon hours of running the same PvP instance ruined it for me. |
| 19:26.21 | mindjuju | though I have palyed a bit of TF2 |
| 19:26.26 | unum | I've never really gotten into rpg's |
| 19:26.51 | burnin | that and what was the point of spending months on a crafting skill only to find the items you could make really weren't that special. |
| 19:26.53 | SunSparc | mindjuju: You still liking TF2? |
| 19:26.55 | unum | does leisure suit larry count as an rpg? |
| 19:27.03 | SunSparc | unum: heh |
| 19:27.19 | unum | the only other one I ever played was the one my best friend worked on |
| 19:27.21 | mindjuju | sunsparc, yeah, it's good times for a quick diversion |
| 19:27.37 | mindjuju | and they add things to the game all the time |
| 19:27.43 | mindjuju | so like the scout upgrade just came out |
| 19:27.46 | mindjuju | pretty cool |
| 19:27.56 | SunSparc | We try to get people to play it here at Rain, but everyone is too addicted to CoD4. |
| 19:29.29 | thebigdog | mgeary, you around? |
| 19:29.33 | mgeary | yep |
| 19:30.33 | thebigdog | kk |
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| 19:31.43 | SunSparc | Anyone here use LDAP for Linux server authentication? |
| 19:32.22 | unum | ya |
| 19:32.27 | thebigdog | ye |
| 19:32.31 | thebigdog | yo |
| 19:32.34 | thebigdog | yi |
| 19:32.38 | thebigdog | yh |
| 19:32.39 | Utah_Dave | SunSparc: no, but I've wanted to try it out. Have you had any luck with it/ |
| 19:32.40 | Utah_Dave | ? |
| 19:33.00 | SunSparc | Utah_Dave: Just starting out. |
| 19:33.08 | SunSparc | Wondering if it is worth it. |
| 19:33.26 | SunSparc | Versus other methods. |
| 19:33.46 | SunSparc | The main purpose being "single sign on" |
| 19:33.54 | fungus | SunSparc: depends on the number of machines, and other methods you've considered. |
| 19:34.33 | SunSparc | fungus: I am at the beginning of considering the alternatives. We have a handful of servers. |
| 19:34.43 | SunSparc | I am also looking at kerberos. |
| 19:35.17 | SunSparc | But we also want the authentication to be used for certain web tools we use also. |
| 19:35.18 | fungus | wow, kerberos is a PITA |
| 19:35.33 | SunSparc | fungus: That has been my impression also. |
| 19:35.45 | SunSparc | Not sure it is worth my time. |
| 19:35.56 | fungus | But LDAP on the other hand, isn't too bad. |
| 19:36.10 | fungus | but with only a handful of servers you may just consider passwd flinging |
| 19:36.10 | SunSparc | LDAP seems to be the quickest. Yet I hear of purists saying that LDAP should not be used for authentication. |
| 19:36.27 | fungus | LDAP for authentication is fine if secured by SSL |
| 19:36.33 | SunSparc | True, I could just sync passwd files. |
| 19:37.04 | fungus | LDAP for auth over plaintext is definitely not a good thing. |
| 19:37.05 | SunSparc | Yeah, we have been using LDAP for authentication on our web tools and it has been decent. |
| 19:37.31 | thebigdog | ldap is great and you can have a db back of your choice for anything that does not use ldap |
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| 19:38.56 | fungus | Yes, kerberos is more secure, and "better" for authentication, but it's painful. |
| 19:39.16 | fungus | LDAPS is still very good, and not too bad. |
| 19:39.18 | thebigdog | if you want to do the really cool stuff i would love to see a nice radius setup with kerberos |
| 19:39.48 | thebigdog | i think your karma would go up in the irc channel too |
| 19:39.50 | fungus | Radius + Kerberos. Interesting. That sounds hard |
| 19:40.23 | unum | I think USU does that |
| 19:40.36 | SunSparc | Sounds like more time and money that I am getting paid for. ;) |
| 19:40.41 | fungus | I have yet to setup a working kerberos system. :( |
| 19:40.42 | thebigdog | yeah it sucks |
| 19:40.55 | SunSparc | fungus: That is good to know. |
| 19:41.13 | thebigdog | kerberos is sometimes over kill on small deployments |
| 19:41.24 | thebigdog | unless you are really really concerned with security |
| 19:41.38 | fungus | But it would be great for large networks, especially distributed ones. |
| 19:42.26 | thebigdog | SunSparc, if you are interested in kerberos check this out - http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/7336 |
| 19:42.42 | thebigdog | it is kinda old...but a great read |
| 19:42.52 | thebigdog | might not be fully up2date though |
| 19:43.29 | thebigdog | also you could use samba too SunSparc |
| 19:43.50 | thebigdog | might be another option too look at |
| 19:45.05 | SunSparc | Thank, thebigdog. |
| 19:45.13 | utahcon | I think a pocket guide fails it's name if it can block the opening of the mini-fridge |
| 19:45.22 | SunSparc | Hmmm, samba eh? Well we do use it for some sharing. |
| 19:46.07 | thebigdog | it is more of like active directory solution for linux...but it might be simple enough to get going...but i personally am a huge fan of ldap |
| 19:46.21 | thebigdog | ldap + samba might be a nice combo |
| 19:47.44 | thebigdog | now if you really want to get crazy you can do this openldap + samba + kerberos + afp |
| 19:47.48 | SunSparc | Yeah, while samba is quite useful, I try not to over use it. |
| 19:47.57 | SunSparc | Whoa! |
| 19:48.04 | SunSparc | Now you are just talking crazy. |
| 19:48.22 | thebigdog | i think mit and stanford have something like that |
| 19:48.23 | SunSparc | I love AFP, but we have had problems integrating it with Windows machines. |
| 19:48.41 | thebigdog | didnt you say you where on mac yesterday? |
| 19:48.51 | SunSparc | Yep |
| 19:49.31 | SunSparc | The majority of our office is Mac and Linux, but we have some developers who are holding out on us. |
| 19:49.52 | SunSparc | We taunt them about it as often as possible. |
| 19:50.13 | thebigdog | dude that would work for all |
| 19:50.31 | thebigdog | but i bet it would be a pain to do |
| 19:50.36 | SunSparc | Agreed. |
| 19:50.42 | thebigdog | but if you got it working...that would be awesome |
| 19:50.51 | thebigdog | i would even give you a box of my gs cookies |
| 19:50.59 | SunSparc | If I could learn to implement that in a day, I could sell myself for some big money. |
| 19:51.02 | thebigdog | your choice even |
| 19:51.04 | fungus | Samba 4 is supposed to have all that built-in, complete AD replacement. |
| 19:51.13 | SunSparc | thebigdog: Wow, a whole box? |
| 19:51.24 | SunSparc | fungus: Nice |
| 19:51.26 | thebigdog | yeah your choice too |
| 19:51.33 | fungus | but it won't be out until later this year |
| 19:51.40 | SunSparc | thebigdog: Got any of those Samoas? |
| 19:51.52 | thebigdog | you know it |
| 19:51.57 | thebigdog | those are the best ones |
| 19:51.57 | SunSparc | Mmmmmmm |
| 19:52.14 | SunSparc | fungus: that may make me reconsider samba |
| 19:52.49 | thebigdog | samba is pretty decent...the only thing i hated with samba is the remote profile stuff |
| 19:52.54 | thebigdog | that was hard to get working |
| 19:52.55 | fungus | There is always NIS... A dirty word I know, but it's easy, and completely not secure. |
| 19:53.09 | SunSparc | lol |
| 19:55.18 | unum | we were using NIS before we switched to ldap |
| 19:55.26 | unum | security here is pretty lax |
| 19:55.57 | SunSparc | In some situations, it can probably be really helpful. |
| 19:57.11 | SunSparc | Thanks for the feedback guys. |
| 19:57.32 | SunSparc | ~fungus++ |
| 19:57.49 | SunSparc | ~thebigdog++ |
| 19:57.55 | thebigdog | oh there we goo |
| 19:58.07 | SunSparc | :) |
| 19:58.23 | thebigdog | SunSparc, check with wade...i think we might have some samba books |
| 19:58.52 | SunSparc | Thanks, I think we may just stick with LDAP for now. |
| 19:59.00 | thebigdog | kk |
| 19:59.22 | unum | we do ldap+samba |
| 19:59.33 | unum | we're going to be running it on solaris |
| 20:00.17 | SunSparc | :) |
| 20:03.59 | fungus | eww. I have a solaris box running samba, not so pretty |
| 20:09.01 | unum | no it's not |
| 20:09.14 | unum | and we have to change the ldap schema to match solaris |
| 20:10.59 | fungus | How do you get around the solaris max number of groups, or handling ACLs |
| 20:12.58 | SunSparc | carmony: To power cycle you need to hold down power and home. |
| 20:16.25 | unum | fungus: I'm not sure what we are doing on that yet |
| 20:16.37 | unum | it's still a work in progress and being done by the other guy |
| 20:17.12 | fungus | ah, ok. Those are my current gripes w/ solaris. |
| 20:18.03 | fungus | Solaris refuses to recognize more than 16 groups |
| 20:22.40 | unum | I don't think we use that many groups |
| 20:32.06 | SunSparc | olds: you gunna throw a g33k party? |
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| 20:32.31 | SunSparc | A k3gg3r :) |
| 20:32.52 | utahcon | what a kegger? wjhere? beer! |
| 20:33.08 | SunSparc | :) |
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| 20:44.16 | olds | lol |
| 20:44.40 | olds | I think my caffeine immunity is strong |
| 20:44.50 | olds | I'm on bottle 3... not feeling much of anything |
| 20:45.04 | olds | on top of the 4 diet dr. pepper's I've had today |
| 20:45.44 | SunSparc | Caffeine has never done much for me, other than make me sleepy. |
| 20:46.12 | SunSparc | I get more energy out of a glass of water. |
| 20:46.12 | utahcon | caffeine, haven't they made something stronger yet? |
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| 20:50.34 | herlo | SunSparc: you wouldn't have been diagnosed with ADD when you were a kid, would you? |
| 20:50.44 | SunSparc | herlo: bingo |
| 20:51.13 | beandog | http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3107/2854148438_9154cd0943.jpg |
| 20:51.15 | SunSparc | Yeah, kinda weird. Like I am wired differently or something. |
| 20:51.26 | SunSparc | beandog: LOL |
| 20:51.49 | beandog | :) |
| 20:53.04 | SunSparc | Here are some cool pictures of roads: http://bit.ly/NIu0A |
| 20:53.13 | utahcon | is 8 min away from a weekend |
| 20:53.24 | SunSparc | utahcon: Lucky! |
| 20:53.33 | utahcon | I hope so... going to Vegas |
| 20:53.55 | SunSparc | :) |
| 20:56.13 | utahcon | If anyone makes it down this weekend... I shall be checking out my twitter and email... so I will be happy to play games, or have a drink with anyone |
| 21:01.04 | herlo | utahcon: when do you leave? |
| 21:01.15 | herlo | ooh, 8 7 minutes |
| 21:01.16 | SunSparc | utahcon: That sounds like a challenge. |
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| 21:01.24 | herlo | 6 minutes |
| 21:01.37 | herlo | oh, wait, he's left already |
| 21:01.40 | herlo | racp! |
| 21:01.46 | utahcon | I am here... |
| 21:01.50 | herlo | utahcon: hehe |
| 21:01.52 | utahcon | has to finish up some stuff :( |
| 21:02.12 | herlo | get busy! so you can get busy! |
| 21:02.17 | SunSparc | herlo: Nice anagram |
| 21:02.35 | utahcon | lol waiting on a response to an IM... of all things... waiting on "instant" messagin |
| 21:07.09 | herlo | SunSparc: why thank you |
| 21:07.19 | SunSparc | :) |
| 21:07.56 | herlo | SunSparc: it coudl have been parc or carp which are much more pronouncable :-D |
| 21:08.38 | SunSparc | Or prac even |
| 21:09.03 | SunSparc | Anagrams are fun. I love word twist games. |
| 21:18.55 | herlo | google mail is having issues today for me :( |
| 21:19.17 | fungus | me too |
| 21:19.19 | thebigdog | it is for everyone |
| 21:19.48 | herlo | I'm sure |
| 21:20.05 | thebigdog | sad when your company uses gmail and it is down |
| 21:20.40 | herlo | well, they could buy the gmail in a 1U product |
| 21:21.13 | thebigdog | but for small companies they dont even want to manage an email system |
| 21:26.24 | thebigdog | well then just make sure you dont go down |
| 21:29.45 | herlo | heh, it's much less of a maintenance nightmare if you only manage servers for those who pay oyu :) |
| 21:36.02 | herlo | yaya gmail is back! |
| 21:36.09 | herlo | mindjuju: ping - re streaming... |
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| 21:53.49 | SunSparc | herlo: that is a tough one |
| 21:53.52 | DexterTheDragon | carmony_: why can't ya? |
| 21:54.02 | carmony_ | My wife's work party is tonight |
| 21:54.06 | carmony_ | and since I'm a relative |
| 21:54.10 | carmony_ | I gotta go :P |
| 21:54.13 | SunSparc | Is it: uoy |
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| 22:01.16 | DexterTheDragon | carmony_: well we'll miss you |
| 22:02.32 | dataw0lf | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUzd7G875Hc |
| 22:03.37 | carmony_ | I'll log on my iPhone and |
| 22:03.40 | carmony_ | lart everyone! |
| 22:04.25 | herlo | SunSparc: no! |
| 22:04.28 | herlo | SunSparc: close though! |
| 22:04.34 | SunSparc | :) |
| 22:04.43 | herlo | it's yuo |
| 22:04.51 | SunSparc | Doh! |
| 22:04.58 | herlo | see! so close! |
| 22:08.03 | mgeary | dataw0lf: that kind of stuff makes me so mad |
| 22:10.34 | SunSparc | Is that guy telling the truth? Is we really employing barbarians on our border? |
| 22:11.18 | dataw0lf | Well, it looks like he's telling the truth. |
| 22:11.30 | dataw0lf | The guy's forehead is in tatters (it zooms in so you can see the stitches later) |
| 22:11.34 | dataw0lf | seems pretty honest |
| 22:11.35 | mgeary | well there are certainly abundant cases of this kind of thing happening |
| 22:11.40 | dataw0lf | indeed |
| 22:11.48 | dataw0lf | SunSparc: he wasn't on the border. |
| 22:12.03 | dataw0lf | He wasn't crossing any international line, he was in the United States and they have checkpoints along highways NEAR the border. |
| 22:12.56 | SunSparc | Where is the oversight committee when we need them... |
| 22:13.06 | SunSparc | This kind of stuff really make me mad as well. |
| 22:13.08 | burnin | <sarcasm>all he had to do was surrender his rights, I mean obviously anyone who doesn't surrender their constitutional rights is hiding something.</sarcasm> |
| 22:13.37 | mgeary | burnin: that is exactly how many, many(!) Americans seem to feel |
| 22:13.40 | mgeary | the idiots |
| 22:13.44 | SunSparc | Seriously. What the heck was going on down there. |
| 22:13.56 | mgeary | SunSparc: it's not just down there |
| 22:14.13 | SunSparc | I am sure. |
| 22:16.27 | mgeary | you've either got to be a sheep, or risk an almost certain beating |
| 22:17.39 | dataw0lf | I'll take a beating any day of the week. (as I've been wont to do in the past) |
| 22:18.11 | mgeary | but most people won't, and frankly, i'm not sure if that's the way to effect change |
| 22:18.15 | burnin | I don't think its just something happening down there. |
| 22:18.18 | SunSparc | What makes me sick is this will probably go unfixed. |
| 22:19.00 | mgeary | well, invariably there will be isolated cases that receive enough publicity that the authorities do something. A disciplining here, and fine or settlement there, but it doesn't seem to stem the tide |
| 22:19.28 | burnin | may not be work safe, language, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5_T4odEODM |
| 22:19.44 | burnin | peaceful protestors beaten by NYPD. |
| 22:20.21 | SunSparc | Reminds me of the case of Campeon and Ramos |
| 22:26.59 | orsonj | I just got an email with ~4000 addresses in the cc: |
| 22:27.34 | romanovic | wow |
| 22:27.39 | romanovic | from whom? |
| 22:27.49 | mgeary | oops. sorry |
| 22:27.54 | mgeary | that was supposed to go to SunSparc |
| 22:28.01 | burnin | lol |
| 22:28.01 | romanovic | oh |
| 22:28.02 | mgeary | and 3999 other people |
| 22:29.42 | SunSparc | :) |
| 22:29.49 | SunSparc | You missed |
| 22:32.51 | SunSparc | olds: You crazy mumbling person you |
| 22:34.20 | carmony_ | asdflhasdlfkjhasdlfkjahsdflkajsdfajshdflkajshdfalskdfjh |
| 22:34.23 | carmony_ | I hate bugs |
| 22:34.39 | SunSparc | carmony: Did you get your iPhone restarted? |
| 22:34.59 | carmony_ | yeah |
| 22:35.33 | SunSparc | Cool |
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| 23:01.45 | herlo | anyone need a camera? http://www.woot.com/ |
| 23:03.07 | burnin | wow, $80 for 10MP |
| 23:03.39 | dataw0lf | 10MP? Want to make poster prints from a pocket camera? |
| 23:05.29 | mgeary | yeah, but Pentax? |
| 23:06.19 | burnin | pentax is cheesy? |
| 23:06.29 | tierra | looks like a classic case of a manufacturer going for the MP ad war... offer a POS camera with builtin upscaling from a crappy CCD |
| 23:06.44 | mgeary | yeah, that's my guess as well |
| 23:07.35 | mgeary | i'm not a camera pro, but i understand you can't go wrong with Canon, Epson has some good stuff. Nikon, of course,... |
| 23:09.14 | burnin | upscaling? as in its not a true 10MP CCD? |
| 23:09.15 | tierra | I usually try to look for actual photos taken from the camera model at full quality before buying... you can easily tell which ones don't have a quality CCD to match the MP |
| 23:10.18 | tierra | you wouldn't believe how many digital cameras upscale so they can advertise high MP |
| 23:10.36 | burnin | wow, thats lame |
| 23:10.56 | dataw0lf | Pentax is a good brand. |
| 23:11.38 | tierra | I'm not trying to claim that this is one of them btw, I don't know... I guess for $80, you're not risking much if it is bad |
| 23:11.56 | tierra | but I'd try to find some full res pics taken with one first |
| 23:12.04 | dataw0lf | Pentax, Nikon, Canon, Leica, and Zeiss == probably top five camera makers. |
| 23:12.15 | tierra | the grainy ones stick out like a sore thumb |
| 23:12.30 | dataw0lf | but yea, MP doesn't mean anything, especially on a compact |
| 23:13.06 | dataw0lf | I'm a fan of Coolpix for compact cameras but I'm also a 2nd generation Nikonian so *shrug* |
| 23:13.59 | dataw0lf | here's a dpreview on the model: http://www.dpreview.com/news/0807/08073101pentaxe60.asp |
| 23:14.00 | tierra | for compacts, sony cybershots were an awesome line, but that was a long time ago around when 5MP was top of the line compact... |
| 23:14.13 | tierra | I have no idea how the new ones compare |
| 23:15.29 | dataw0lf | on compacts I just check ISO sensitivity because usually when I go DSLR-less it means I'm at a show, or a party, or other places where low-light is common. |
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| 23:17.02 | tierra | looks less like a review, and more like a press release |
| 23:17.27 | olds | I've had 4 g33k b33rs. I dont feel jittery.... more pukey. |
| 23:19.36 | dataw0lf | http://optempo.com/2009/02/16/pentax-optio-e60-10mp-digital-camera-review/ |
| 23:19.42 | dataw0lf | tierra: ^^ actual review |
| 23:19.46 | dataw0lf | doesn't get very high ratings. |
| 23:27.01 | itimber | I'm out guys.... lates |
| 23:47.06 | dataw0lf | http://consumerist.com/5200818/reader-finds-card-skimmer-on-bank-atm |
