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02:20.10DexterTheDragonherlo: ping
02:35.51herloDexterTheDragon: pong
02:36.10DexterTheDragonherlo: you presenting at LinuxFest?
02:36.33herloyes
02:36.40DexterTheDragoncool
02:36.44herloare you going?
02:36.51DexterTheDragonyeah
02:36.56herlodo you need a room?
02:37.07DexterTheDragonnope staying with family
02:37.19herloahh, well if you hear of anyone...
02:37.40DexterTheDragonare you on the mailing list?
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02:39.00herlothe lfnw list?
02:39.07DexterTheDragonyeah
02:39.18herlonope
02:39.53herlois there a reason I should be/
02:40.01herlo?
02:40.29DexterTheDragoneh it just has updates and stuff
02:40.35DexterTheDragonso probably not :)
02:51.11wpsanyone up for an e-commerce question?
02:51.23wpsI have always been told to never store the customer's credit card
02:51.51wpsThere are sites (such as Amazon) that allow you to set up billing profiles though… so that you don't have to enter your card each time
02:52.31wpsdo they encrypt it somehow?
02:52.55DexterTheDragonthey may store it in something like auth.net's CIM system
02:54.14DexterTheDragonalthough there are plenty of places that just store it in the database
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04:22.15Utah_Dave~lart css
04:22.15ibotslaps css upside and over the head with one freakishly huge killer whale named hugh
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13:53.42carmonyOK, I got two new servers with Ubuntu 8.04 LTS, but one has two HDDs and the other one has just one. How can I tell which is which?
13:55.32utahconLook at the devices list
13:55.53utahcondo an 'ls /dev'
13:55.56utahconerr rather
13:56.03utahconls /dev sd*
13:56.44utahconlol that second one did the same thing... anyways look for sd[a-z][0-9]
13:57.02utahconthe one that has both sda and sdb should be the one with two drives.
13:57.52utahconah here is a good command for it
13:57.57utahconls /dev | grep sd
14:04.34carmonyk
14:04.36carmonyanother question
14:04.51carmonywhen I log into the servers
14:04.56carmonywith putty
14:05.12carmonyit says I'm logged on at username@ubuntu
14:05.28carmonyhow do I change the server's name to say something else?
14:06.41utahconhostname [nameYouWant]
14:06.45utahconyou will probably have to sudo that
14:06.57utahconI don't think that is the permanent way to do that though
14:07.33carmonyah, edit /etc/hostname
14:07.58utahconthere you go
14:09.39carmonyhow can I see what filesystem a mounted drive is using?
14:10.14utahconthe command 'mount' will show all your mounts
14:21.34carmony~utachcon++
14:21.45carmonythanks for the help :)
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14:55.42SunSparccarmony:  'df -h' is also helpful for seeing what is on your system
14:56.20SunSparcAlso, you can change your prompt in your shell config files.
14:57.06SunSparcDepending on which shell you are using.  If you are using bash then you can edit .bashrc and or .profile
14:57.36SunSparcOne is loaded when accessing the shell remotely and one is loaded when accessing the shell locally.
14:58.15SunSparcutahcon: Did you find a server that you like?
14:59.04utahconSunSparc: Ended up going with Linode actually.
14:59.12fungusSunSparc: actually it's, .bashrc for interactive shells, and profile for non-interactive shells
14:59.14utahconThanks for your time though.
15:00.03SunSparcutahcon: No problem.  Enjoy that.  :)
15:00.11utahconI have been actually.
15:00.12SunSparcfungus: Ah, right.
15:00.26utahconAlthough I didn't realize how much of my proftpd knowledge I had forgotten.
15:00.57SunSparcIt goes quick when you stop using it for a while.
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15:23.09_psychic_good morning :)
15:23.29supernoviahowdy :)
15:23.59SunSparcsupernovia: When do you get back?  Not that you want to yet, it is getting cooler again.
15:24.26supernoviad'oh.  Well, I'm debating whether to come back Thursday or Friday or maybe even Saturday
15:24.39supernoviadue to the fire in the hotel last week, I got two free nights in Vegas
15:25.07SunSparcSaturday should be nice again.
15:25.20supernoviahow are things going there?  I'm sorry to undermine Mrs. SunSparc's competition against my sister in law
15:25.22SunSparcDid the fire affect you at all?
15:25.30supernoviawe just did an hour +40 in the gym
15:25.48supernoviaWell, mostly just in lack of sleep and having to deal with scared kids by myself in a cold parking lot.
15:26.04SunSparcHeh, you need to take your sister out for some Pizza Hut deep pan pizza.
15:26.10supernoviaOnly one person was injured along with a half dozen pieces of furniture. Small fire.
15:26.28SunSparcThat is cool that they gave you some comp time there.
15:26.32supernoviahehe, well we're about to make a big breakfast at my kids request.
15:26.39supernoviaYeah I thought it was nice. It's a lovely hotel really.
15:27.25supernoviahow's _psychic_ this morning?
15:27.34_psychic_supernovia: well
15:27.38supernoviaGlad to hear it :)
15:27.47_psychic_Kinda tired of this Utah springs
15:27.52_psychic_70-40-70-30-75
15:27.53supernoviaUtah Springs?
15:27.57_psychic_the weather
15:28.00supernoviaAh.
15:28.15supernoviaYeah I was tired too. Hence staying in almost mexico for a week.
15:28.46supernoviain sierra vista right now it's perfect weather to leave the windows open all day.  Loving it.
15:29.47supernoviaand the weather's very clear here too. I am going to try to get my kids out to an observatory tonight after our walk :-D
15:31.36supernoviaanyway I'll stop rubbing in (I have to come back there sometime!)
15:33.21carmonythanks for the help :)
15:35.05supernoviamoi?
15:37.06SunSparcsupernovia: Yeah, you are making me jealous
15:37.28supernoviahehe
15:37.37carmonylol
15:37.37SunSparcGo have your breakfast and make sure your sister's is extra greasy with lots of sugary jelly on the toast.  ;)
15:37.39carmonyI hit up enter
15:37.49carmonythinking I was focused on my shell window
15:37.52supernoviammmmm, sugary jelly
15:37.58SunSparc:)
15:38.21SunSparcsupernovia: Who is watching the kitties while you are gone?
15:38.27supernoviaThey're with me
15:38.38SunSparcOh, right on!  I bet they are loving it too.
15:38.43supernoviaDo you mean while I was at the gym this morning?  My sister lives here too
15:38.45supernoviaOh yeah they totally are.
15:39.08SunSparcI mean while you are not in Utah
15:39.23supernoviaAh yeah they're with me.  Spring break.
15:39.47SunSparcNice
15:39.55supernoviaOh. You mean the kiTTies not kiddies
15:40.45SunSparchehe, yes, I should have said James.
15:40.47supernoviasorry,thought you meant my kids :-D  Um, so yeah that's complicated but they're being taken care of at my home by someone who is taking care of the home
15:41.10SunSparcOk, heh
15:41.22SunSparcYeah
15:41.26supernoviafixing some some things that needed to be done, etc :)
15:41.42SunSparcWe are taking the kids hiking to Stewart Falls this Saturday if you are back in town.
15:41.56supernoviaOoh, cool. I should be back by Saturday
15:42.17supernoviaAnd they're trying to walk / jog at least 3 miles per day right now so that'd be a perfect trip to take!
15:43.12supernoviathanks for the invite :-D they'll love it
15:43.14SunSparcCool.
15:43.16SunSparc:)
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15:43.53Utah_DaveI'm excited about fungus' presentation on Thursda!
15:44.06supernoviaOh no!
15:44.14DexterTheDragonI'm excited about AppleBee's on Thursday
15:44.19Utah_Daves/Thursda/Thursday
15:44.37Utah_DaveAppleBee's is fun, too.
15:44.47supernoviaand turning into a singing shimmer of light would be pretty cool too frankly.
15:44.49supernoviaThat it is
15:44.50Utah_Dave20 bucks says fungus gets at least one cosmo!
15:45.02supernovia20 says he plays with the knives
15:45.45fungusI won't bet against either of you.
15:45.47supernoviathat's too bad, SunSparc - I've wondered why you don't come.  One of these days your scouts schedule will change
15:45.59supernoviafungus: I am bummed about missing this!
15:46.22fungusLife happens.  
15:47.27supernoviaWell darn. I am enjoying myself too much or I really would consider leaving early to get back in time for the meeting :)
15:47.37supernoviabut I will see you all next month I'm sure.
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15:48.10supernoviaOh hi mindjuju
15:48.26supernoviaw00t
15:48.37supernoviaalthough I must say my kids were terribly unimpressed
15:48.39supernoviaby vegas
15:48.50supernoviaMary says "The best thing to look at in Vegas is your FEET!"
15:49.08supernoviaOnly then we walked by a part of the strip where people had thrown ads all over the ground, so that stopped working too
15:49.22utahconI am sure the 12 week old will be less than impressed. I think the four year old will like the lights and music.
15:49.36supernoviaMy kids used to love the lights when we lived there
15:49.40mindjujuhowdy supernovia
15:49.44supernoviabut they were a few weeks old and a year old
15:51.18supernoviaalright, well friends. I gots to go cook / eat a delicious greasy sweet breakfast
15:51.33utahconsee ya supernovia
15:51.37supernoviasee ya!
15:51.37mindjujucya supernovia
15:52.05mindjujuis anybody going to this?
15:52.05supernoviaI'll be there in spirit Thursday. :)
15:52.05mindjujuhttp://www.smcslc.org/april-16-luncheon-and-keynote-presentation-1000365.htm
15:52.14mindjujuoh for the meet supernovia?
15:52.30mindjujui'm excited to see fungus present
15:52.37supernoviaactually for fungus's presentation
15:52.56supernoviaI'll be in phoenix probably that night
15:53.00mindjujuah
15:53.17mindjujuArid-zona is pretty cool
15:53.20supernoviaooh, never been to the melting pot
15:53.26herlosupernovia: if you like, we can stream the audio... even though mindjuju has some great audio/video chops...
15:53.29supernoviaIt's lovely here in sierra vista
15:53.30mindjujuat least Tuscson and surrounding areas is
15:53.58supernoviayeah, this area is pretty neat :) going to veil tomorrow and coronado ntl. monument today, karchner sometime soon
15:54.04herlo70 degrees is the perfect temperature
15:54.11supernoviasierra vista really isn't that hot
15:54.20herloit's April
15:54.31supernoviait's a higher elevation too though, even in summer it's not that bad here
15:54.31carmonyok, on my /etc/fstab it has UUIDs, how do I find out what the UUID is for /dev/sdb?
15:54.33herlodon't go there in June
15:55.05supernoviaI've been here in July. Not bad I swear it. Mesa is awful in July. Sierra vista is still lovely. Stormy then too.
15:55.22supernoviaAnyway, they're about done cooking breakfast and I"ve contributed nothing. heheh.  See ya guys around!
16:00.48DexterTheDragoncarmony: sudo vol_id -u /dev/sdb
16:01.11herlocarmony: blkid
16:02.23DexterTheDragonooo blkid is spify
16:03.11herlo:)
16:06.03mindjujuwas a crazy thing!
16:06.43herlohmm, can't have that
16:06.47SunSparc~lart the weather
16:06.48ibotwallops the weather with a main rotation server that needs rehubbing. It won't take long
16:08.36mindjujufinally, i have come to understand the purpose of twitter, and it is this -->  http://www.instructables.com/id/The-Twittering-Office-Chair/
16:11.50herlomindjuju: not that I really want to know, but where the hell do you find this stuff?
16:12.05mindjujuit just comes to me
16:13.15SunSparcmindjuju: You are using the Law of Attraction in a weird way.
16:13.16SunSparc;)
16:13.41mindjuju:)
16:20.40mindjujui actually use 1 monitor for distractions from coding
16:20.44mindjujuit has my softphone
16:20.47mindjujupidgin
16:21.00mindjujuand since it is xp, it's using an embeded webpage
16:21.03mindjujuthat is my google page
16:21.15mindjujuthat has digg, several news sources, rss reader etc
16:21.21mindjujuall embeded
16:21.46mindjujuso it's just a glance to know the stock market is down 98.20 points today
16:22.05mindjujuWest Texas Crude is at $50.38
16:22.24mindjujuand that 60 minutes appears to have documented the testing of a bionic arm
16:26.03DexterTheDragonrofl
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16:30.01dataw0lfhttp://www.dpreview.com/news/0904/09041402nikond5000.asp
16:30.09dataw0lfOhhhhh, yeaaaa. pre-ordered off Amazon.
16:31.42SunSparcNice
16:32.05SunSparcI hear good things about Nikon but have only ever tried the Canon.
16:32.32dataw0lfmy fellow senior developer is a Canon man, himself.  He just plopped down almost two thousand dollars for a new lens
16:32.54SunSparcYeah, they can get pricey.
16:33.24dataw0lfhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/ipaddict/3434432969/ that's a pic with his new lens, the detail is unbelievable, but the DoF is about as small as an ant's heiny.
16:33.30SunSparcI have been looking at the Rebel, but this is nice also.
16:34.07herloSunSparc: I have the original 300D, it's very nice.  The newer ones are way worth it
16:34.34SunSparcdataw0lf: That is a nice shot.
16:34.49SunSparcherlo: How do they compare to similar Canon models?
16:35.14dataw0lfSunSparc: yea, he's a great photog.  We get media passes to all the events, and he snaps shots for our galleries whilst I interview the people for little blurbs :)
16:36.15herloSunSparc: similar models?  like the 10D or something?
16:36.18SunSparcdataw0lf: So you sideline as a reporter by night eh?  :)
16:36.42SunSparcherlo: Or the EOS (I think that is the one)
16:37.26dataw0lfSunSparc: well, we work for a newspaper and for our galleries it's kind of a waste of resources to allocate a photojournalist and journalist to those jobs when you have some eager web dev management guys who're going to go to the event anyway.
16:37.43SunSparcGood point.
16:44.33herloSunSparc: eos is not a SLR
16:44.37herlooh, wait
16:44.38herlohehe
16:44.59herlothe one I have is an EOS Digital Rebel
16:45.01SunSparc:)
16:45.32SunSparcI guess EOS is a whole range of high end Canon cameras.
16:45.50SunSparcIncluding the Rebel and the 10D
16:45.55herloright
16:46.56herlothe thing is, you can't really compare them as apples to apples.  The DR is generally a lower quality body and functionality.  Though I did hack mine to include all the functionality of the 10D
16:47.24herlothe 20D and 30D I don't know that much about, just that I don't have a need for something that sophisticated
16:47.28SunSparcOh yeah?  You hacked into the software?
16:47.40SunSparcOr that expensive.
16:47.42SunSparc:)
16:48.16herlothat's true too
16:48.35herlowell, when I got mine, dpreview had a reference to a russian guy who had a hack of the firmware
16:48.51SunSparcNice
16:49.07SunSparcNaturally.
16:50.10herloyeah, so SunSparc I'be been testing out gstreamer a ton lately, have it streaming vnc and audio to a shoutcast server
16:50.47SunSparcherlo: How is that working out?
16:51.00herloSunSparc: haven't used it in the real world yet
16:51.17herloSunSparc: the other part, I need to tee it and put it on the filesystem at the same time...
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16:53.54SunSparcherlo: Put the incoming stream on the filesystem?
16:54.34herloSunSparc: the combined audio/vidoe
16:54.39herlos/oe/eo/
16:54.59herloSunSparc: gst works like a unix pipeline, it's pretty freaking amazing
16:55.21SunSparcWow, that makes it pretty powerful to use with other apps
16:58.29herloyep
16:58.36herloSunSparc: http://gstreamer.freedesktop.org/documentation/plugins.html
16:58.44herloI've been living on that page for the past few days
16:59.35fungusCool, aasink!
16:59.45herlothere's tons of stuff
16:59.55herlofungus: that one doesn't work afaik, I tried it
17:00.04fungusdoh.
17:00.11fungusthat one would be fun
17:00.48herloyeah, I thought about that as a cool one
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17:02.06SunSparcheh, ascii art
17:02.21herlolet me pastebin an example of what I am doing...
17:02.23SunSparcherlo: That is a LOT of plugins.  Nice.
17:04.11herloSunSparc: yeah
17:04.13herlohttp://fpaste.org/paste/9066
17:05.02SunSparcSweet!  I know your password now!
17:05.33SunSparcI assume bang's are delimiters in this case
17:06.15herlolol, I've changed that
17:06.31SunSparc:)
17:06.37herloahh, crap, no I haven't!
17:07.09herloluckily, it's only the source password for shoutcast
17:07.13herlos/shout/ice/
17:07.44SunSparc:)
17:07.57herlochange
17:07.58herlod
17:08.47herloSunSparc: so what it does is uses the ! as pipes, there's even a tee plugin
17:09.37SunSparcHow very flexible.
17:10.22herloyes, and the order isn't even important (to a point), I can put the audio before the video rendering and it comes out the same
17:10.58SunSparcNice
17:11.18SunSparcWhat are you using this for?  Media server?
17:12.58herlowell, there's been a lot of requests to see the presenter's desktop during a presentaion
17:13.04herloso it's experimental for that yes
17:17.43SunSparcTechnology rocks.
17:18.17herlo:) off to lunch
17:18.26SunSparcEnjoy
18:40.49fungusAnyone remember the name of that open source hackable camera presented on last time?
18:42.18dataw0lffungus: Elphel?
18:42.43fungusthat's it, thanks
18:42.54dataw0lfnp.
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18:49.01cesmichaelhola
18:49.06cesmichaelhay alguien alli
18:49.13unumbien y tu
18:49.17cesmichael:o
18:49.22cesmichaelahi maso
18:49.27cesmichaelumm buscando ayuda
18:49.34unumquein
18:49.50unumoops
18:49.52cesmichaelde cualkiera
18:49.53cesmichael:P
18:49.58unumque ayuda
18:50.05unumah
18:50.10unumwhat's up?
18:50.23cesmichaelayuda
18:50.25cesmichaelde nuke et
18:50.45cesmichaeltengo mi host y todo ya lo instale y me arroja unos errores q no entiendo
18:50.47cesmichael:S
18:51.14mgearyi kann nur Deutsch und English. No hablo....
18:51.19mgearyich*
18:51.47cesmichaelcant you speak spanish
18:51.49cesmichael???
18:51.54fungus~x es en tengo mi host y todo ya lo instale y me arroja unos errores q no entiendo
18:52.16unumso is this with nuke.php ?
18:52.40cesmichaeli use nuke et
18:52.47cesmichaelhelp
18:52.49cesmichaelXD
18:53.26fungusCan you tell us the errors it throws?  perhaps put them in a pastebin.
18:54.19cesmichaelWarning: mysql_fetch_array(): supplied argument is not a valid MySQL result resource in /home/a7778885/public_html/instalar/sql/fin.php on line 47
18:54.32cesmichaelhttp://truzone.org/?zona=Foros&arch=ver_tema&pid=17001&pag=2
18:54.40cesmichaeli write in this forum
18:55.22cesmichael??
18:57.09cesmichael??
18:59.35unumhave you connect to mysql and looked at your tables?
18:59.41unumoops too late
19:00.06dataw0lfdang bad internet connection I guess.
19:07.11herloutahcon: lol
19:07.33herloutahcon: yeah, a recommendation for you, it's possible to install the sugar desktop on your linux system
19:07.45herlohttp://herlo.fedorapeople.org/art/fedora_four_fs_vertical_banner_330x800.png
19:07.47herlooops
19:07.51herlohttp://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick
19:07.54herloutahcon: ^^
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19:33.55utahconherlo: thanks for the link, that will be handy :D
19:34.15herloutahcon: anytime :)
19:34.16utahconI gotta update this thing... the networking is a bit antiquated
19:34.20herloyep
19:34.28herloprobably can't connect to a locked ap
19:35.44utahconSeems pretty stripped down at this point. I was hoping to tether to my phone for some internet loving.
19:36.06herloyeah, probably not yet
19:36.15herlobut maybe after you upgrade it :)
19:52.17utahconherlo: have people who are interested email you @ herlo1@gmail.com?
19:52.44oldsit's raining
19:52.46oldsmen
19:54.04herlosure
19:54.07herloutahcon: ^^
20:04.52_psychic_olds: you here?
20:05.15oldsyea
20:05.28_psychic_we don't have any devs out there
20:05.37_psychic_it's mostly marketing so we can get in front of big names
20:05.42oldsahh
20:06.12_psychic_it's been really good for us though
20:08.58oldsI'm impressed
20:10.48oldsespecially if you can keep the labor done here, it's so much cheaper than hiring devs in nyc
20:11.00_psychic_yeah
20:11.03_psychic_we're a niche provider too
20:11.13_psychic_not many people are all upons for flex.AIR
20:11.26oldsyea, very true
20:11.40oldscan't think of any other firms off the top of my head that specialize in that
20:15.25olds_psychic_: don't know if you saw this yet: http://tr.im/iMi0
20:18.35_psychic_oh dear
20:18.39_psychic_he's like a little kid
20:20.14oldsalso this little snippet: http://www.mls-daily.com/2009/04/backflipping-espindola-nearing-rsl.html
20:20.45_psychic_yeah seen that
20:20.51_psychic_not sure what I think there
20:21.00_psychic_seems like he was dangerous when he wasn't injured
20:21.15oldsit shows how few options we really have to acquire a good striker
20:22.56_psychic_which is odd, since it seems like we should have the cash
20:23.06oldsyea, I've never understood that
20:23.19_psychic_the hat trick was sure nice, even if it was some keep error
20:23.37_psychic_it just seems like we really need someone people talk about as consistently dangerous
20:23.46_psychic_it's crazy that an intern found Montero
20:23.47oldsyea, but that's not indicative of robbie's real skill level
20:23.59oldsright
20:24.01_psychic_they're perfect picks for guys that will be awesome
20:24.07_psychic_but we need present awesome :)
20:24.16oldswe need a Montero
20:24.50oldsthe problem with our forwards is that their dribbling skills are awful
20:25.00oldsso you have to play them through
20:25.23oldsthey can't post up and serve the advancing midfield
20:27.58_psychic_yeah we saw that in DC
20:28.03_psychic_no penetration of that back line
20:28.11_psychic_http://14.media.tumblr.com/oaDQWwRAbm98xg3mZqG8JbV2o1_500.jpg
20:28.32oldslol
20:30.28josephscotthas that been submitted to graphjam.com yet?
20:31.46_psychic_probably
20:51.57mindjujupretty funny _psychic_
20:52.21_psychic_;)
21:03.42utahconsomeone should have mentioned this XO has an SD slot :D
21:05.39fungusoh, by the way, the XO laptop has an SD slot too.
21:25.39carmonyis there a good way in linux to take a huge file, put it into small file chunks, transfer it, and then reassemble it on the other side?
21:26.04_psychic_why small chunks?
21:26.11carmony64GB file
21:26.20_psychic_does the connection keep dropping?
21:26.30carmonyeventually it does
21:26.38carmonyit going from GoDaddy to LayeredTech
21:26.46carmonyand GoDaddy throttles downloads like that
21:26.51_psychic_gotcha
21:26.53carmonyso it'll start at 3 MBs
21:27.00carmonybut within 4 hours it'll be 200kbs
21:27.13_psychic_yeah well you shouldn't be pirating movies, mister.
21:27.16carmonyand eventually it drops
21:27.17carmonyLOL
21:27.19_psychic_;)
21:27.24carmonyits a site backup :P
21:27.28carmonyuser uploaded photos man
21:27.37_psychic_totally joking with you
21:27.45carmonyI know :)
21:27.52_psychic_I don't know offhand :/
21:30.02mindjujuoh oh oh wow --> http://digg.com/d1ofTc
21:30.05mindjujuwow
21:30.11mindjuju...speechless..
21:30.30DexterTheDragoncarmony: http://tinyurl.com/dlk2wt
21:31.54DexterTheDragon:)
21:34.21josephscottsplit is a pretty common un*x utliity
21:36.38herloand awk
21:36.39herloand perl
21:37.05herlojosephscott: nice!
21:38.36josephscottand by common I mean it's nearly as old as I am
21:38.43josephscottI managed to beat it out by about 6 months
21:39.14josephscottoops, I'm wrong, it's older than I am by a few montsh
21:39.14herlohehe, I've never used it
21:39.15josephscottmonths
21:39.19josephscotthttp://www.scribd.com/doc/4001508/unix-timeline
21:39.31josephscottsee entry for AT&T Unix Version 3
21:39.35josephscottJanuary 1973
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23:31.38macgarthurhey everyone
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23:35.43mindjujuhi macgarthur
23:35.55mindjujuwill be here off and on for the next couple hrs
23:35.58mindjujudid you have a question?
23:36.56macgarthurhi
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23:37.27dataw0lfwell, sheesh.
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23:37.36mindjuju:)
23:37.48mindjujuhow have you been dataw0lf?
23:38.18dataw0lfsick, thought it was allergies, but I'm starting to come down with a pretty phenomenal fever, so I'm starting to think it's something else.
23:38.36mindjujufunny you say that
23:38.47mindjujui took off 2 days a couple weeks ago on a high fever
23:38.56mindjujusinus pressure like crazy
23:39.00dataw0lfyup yup
23:39.04dataw0lfthat's the one!
23:39.12mindjujuyeah, sorry to hear that bro
23:39.24mindjujui usually take off max, 1 day, but this was one potent bug
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23:39.49dataw0lfyea, I'm hearing ya, it's tearing me up at work, can't concentrate with the sinus pressure / killer headache
23:59.25wpswhat's the best MySQL data type for storing a price?
23:59.33wpsfloat? numeric?
23:59.38wps(something like 23.11)

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