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| 02:18.36 | Lone_Wanderer | layer comps? |
| 02:18.41 | Lone_Wanderer | (two hours later) |
| 02:22.30 | dataw0lf | la-yer comps? stop talking gibberish, I can't even get a straight line in Photoshop. |
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| 13:38.15 | mindjuju | anybody around? |
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| 13:41.32 | mindjuju | sup utahcon |
| 13:42.17 | utahcon | nothing much... |
| 13:42.21 | utahcon | just rolling in for the day |
| 13:42.29 | mindjuju | got time for a quick question? |
| 13:42.40 | utahcon | Sure. |
| 13:42.53 | mindjuju | so i'm building a queuing system |
| 13:43.08 | mindjuju | ie, this person in front of that person, who is behind that person |
| 13:43.25 | utahcon | right |
| 13:43.28 | mindjuju | so, if a client isn't present when they are called, they should be bumped back 1 slot |
| 13:43.56 | mindjuju | so my question is |
| 13:44.37 | mindjuju | well, i was thinking of storing that info in the database, but now i'm thinking of storing the queing as a global variable |
| 13:45.38 | mindjuju | ther eisn't a reason to store that data in sql |
| 13:45.57 | utahcon | If you can keep it out of the DB it sounds like a good idea to me. |
| 13:46.16 | mindjuju | yeah, i think that's what i need to do, not sure now, why i was thinking to put it there |
| 13:46.26 | mindjuju | except that i woke up at 5a to get this done |
| 13:46.32 | mindjuju | thx! |
| 13:46.44 | utahcon | Glad I could help :D |
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| 14:21.44 | _carmony | whew |
| 14:21.49 | _carmony | busy busy week |
| 14:21.53 | _carmony | and its only weds morning |
| 14:23.41 | mindjuju | does kbb.com work for anybody? |
| 14:24.17 | unum | yep |
| 14:24.34 | mindjuju | really? |
| 14:24.42 | mindjuju | it seems to get hung up loading 60 items |
| 14:24.50 | mindjuju | page doesn't seem to fully render for me |
| 14:25.43 | unum | looks fully rendered to me |
| 14:25.52 | mindjuju | what browser? |
| 14:26.04 | mindjuju | i'm trying both ff2 and ie 7 |
| 14:26.08 | unum | firefox 3 on fedeora |
| 14:32.59 | _carmony | why are you on ff2 minduju? |
| 14:33.52 | mindjuju | because i woke up at 5a to push a project thorugh and i hit 2 instead of 3 |
| 14:34.00 | _carmony | lol |
| 14:34.05 | mindjuju | :) |
| 14:34.06 | _carmony | I know the feeling |
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| 14:57.34 | mindjuju | anybody know if you can just add a value to a field without querying it first? |
| 14:58.12 | unum | as long as you know what you need in your where clause |
| 14:58.25 | unum | or maybe I don't understand the question |
| 14:58.36 | mindjuju | k, let's say you have a table |
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| 14:59.07 | mindjuju | |name|bar_tab| |
| 14:59.08 | mindjuju | |victor|0| |
| 14:59.08 | mindjuju | |victor2|1| |
| 14:59.18 | mindjuju | now i want to add the number 3 to victor2 |
| 14:59.44 | mindjuju | any way i can just sling in the num 3 to sql and have it add without first querying it and add it myself? |
| 14:59.52 | mindjuju | chalk it up to being lazy and tired |
| 14:59.56 | mgeary | morning |
| 14:59.58 | mindjuju | i don't think so, but thought it worth an ask |
| 15:00.07 | mgeary | mindjuju: give me a quick re-cap |
| 15:00.16 | unum | I think you can: UPDATE table set bar_tab=bar_tab+3 WHERE name='victor2' |
| 15:00.58 | mindjuju | hi mgeary, i wanted to see if you could submit data to the database and have it add the new num without having to add it myself |
| 15:01.05 | mindjuju | i think unum is on to something, i'll try it that way |
| 15:01.10 | mindjuju | thx unum |
| 15:01.15 | unum | np |
| 15:13.30 | unum | did it work? |
| 15:14.55 | mindjuju | oh sorry, it did work |
| 15:15.39 | unum | I woke up early to :) |
| 15:16.02 | unum | man I should have told that girl no |
| 15:16.16 | herlo | mindjuju: you can use the csv engine in mysql >= 5.1 |
| 15:16.20 | unum | I got a text message at 5:30 this morning asking for a ride at 7 |
| 15:16.23 | unum | 7:30 |
| 15:16.31 | mindjuju | yieps, that's early |
| 15:16.32 | herlo | oh, nm, misunderstood |
| 15:19.21 | unum | I don't have to be to work until 10 |
| 15:20.15 | mindjuju | that's too funny unum |
| 15:20.41 | jsmith | unum: Did you driver her in your new fancy car? |
| 15:20.57 | jsmith | mindjuju: And they're totally worth it :-p |
| 15:21.28 | mindjuju | :) |
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| 15:31.31 | utahcon | fungus: you were mentioning using a PPA the other day. Where does one find out more? |
| 15:31.40 | _carmony | LOL, actually, there were all not worth it for the exception of the last one ;) |
| 15:33.26 | fungus | utahcon: more about making your own PPA, or more about how to add that specific PPA to your sources list? |
| 15:33.48 | unum | jsmith: no I decided to stick with my old boring car |
| 15:34.21 | utahcon | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:34.28 | fungus | https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA |
| 15:36.42 | mindjuju | i need to sell my car and get something better with gas |
| 15:37.05 | utahcon | fungus: thanks! |
| 15:37.10 | mindjuju | what does the fungus.mobile get for fuel usage? |
| 15:37.35 | fungus | only about 15mpg. But luckily I don't have to drive far. |
| 15:38.03 | mindjuju | v6? 4wd? |
| 15:38.30 | fungus | yes, yes |
| 15:39.47 | mindjuju | i remember my Hyndai getting mpg like that |
| 15:40.04 | mindjuju | but it was slip and slide on ice / snow |
| 15:40.19 | utahcon | me wants a puma |
| 15:41.37 | utahcon | I want one of these http://www.allamericanminitrucks.com/inventory/used.htm |
| 15:41.39 | mindjuju | i want something that doesn't leak oil, has decent mpg and can go through the snow like Mr. Plow |
| 15:41.39 | mgeary | but i want an apartment in Germany more |
| 15:41.58 | herlo | utahcon: lol, you are talking about the new wheelchair looking thing? |
| 15:42.13 | utahcon | herlo: hell yeah! those things look bad a$$ |
| 15:42.25 | herlo | http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/94542cc0-23a9-11de-996a-00144feabdc0.html |
| 15:42.37 | herlo | utahcon: it's an interesting concept for sure |
| 15:46.42 | mindjuju | i'd be interested if we had a road built for them |
| 15:46.52 | mindjuju | as it is, we barelyhave a road for bicycles |
| 15:47.51 | herlo | mindjuju: I think the intent is that they'll be able to run on any road already built |
| 15:48.01 | utahcon | mindjuju: you're right. Driving that thing in utah would suck! |
| 15:48.06 | mindjuju | yes, that's what scares me herlo |
| 15:48.14 | mindjuju | people don't respect bicycle lanes |
| 15:48.42 | mindjuju | utahcon- for getting over the point, you'd have to have some kind of rollercoaster lift to get you to the top! |
| 15:48.53 | mindjuju | no word yet and how to get down |
| 15:50.01 | mindjuju | hmmm, well there is a vid in new york |
| 15:50.13 | mindjuju | if it can survive there for more than 100ft, it prolly survive anywhere |
| 15:50.18 | mindjuju | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlHhimlc2Pc |
| 15:51.16 | mindjuju | i wonder if it has cruise control, and a decent radio system |
| 15:52.22 | utahcon | I would think no, no and no. |
| 15:53.46 | herlo | mindjuju: I'm thinking urban areas, not really meant for long distance travel. Although I can see some ID10T using it that way because the units will undoubtedly be cheaper |
| 15:54.05 | mindjuju | i was totally kidding about the tow package |
| 15:54.18 | mindjuju | maybe a little radio flyer, but that's about it |
| 15:54.25 | herlo | mindjuju: I didn't even see the tow thing :) |
| 15:54.28 | herlo | that's funny |
| 15:54.39 | mindjuju | can you imagine hauling a boat with that |
| 15:54.45 | mindjuju | or a pair of jet skis |
| 15:55.25 | utahcon | Range: Aimed to have a 25 â 35 mile range (40 â 56 km) |
| 15:55.35 | utahcon | Top speed: Aimed to travel between 25 and 35 mph (40 â 56 kph) |
| 15:59.13 | _carmony | hey DexterTheDragon |
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| 16:15.43 | mindjuju | can't believe its 10:30 already |
| 16:16.11 | _carmony | alright, here is a question for people with high load websites |
| 16:16.31 | DexterTheDragon | _carmony: sup |
| 16:16.53 | _carmony | whats a good goal for request time for servering PHP scripts that also hit a DB? |
| 16:17.17 | _carmony | DexterTheDragon: on twitter you said life just keeps gettin' worse, was wondering what was up :P |
| 16:20.24 | unum | _carmony: I have my set to 5 minutes :) |
| 16:21.25 | DexterTheDragon | _carmony: I like a request time of like 0.005 seconds :) |
| 16:23.23 | unum | one of my scripts was having a bizarre problem and I had to change it so it only return results on 20 people at a time |
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| 16:42.45 | _carmony | lol |
| 16:44.21 | unum | I found mailing lists where other people had the exact same problem with php_mod and apache but no one ever replied to their posts |
| 16:45.08 | unum | man this is a mess |
| 16:45.26 | unum | I wonder if I should change the way I store my data to reflect how it's being viewed |
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| 16:58.40 | utahcon | unum: will it always be shown the same way? |
| 16:59.45 | utahcon | my personal opinion on data storage is that the data should be stored in the easiest to find manner. |
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| 17:16.35 | jason_ | any Linux system admins interested in a job offer? |
| 17:16.35 | jason_ | ugh... |
| 17:16.35 | jason_ | I've gotta re-connect. |
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| 17:16.35 | PoeticIntensity | k |
| 17:16.36 | PoeticIntensity | that's better. |
| 17:16.36 | PoeticIntensity | so.... my boss knows a guy in SLC who's got a sys admin job available. |
| 17:16.36 | PoeticIntensity | that's about all I know. |
| 17:16.36 | _carmony | josephscott: how long do WordPress.com requests typically take? |
| 17:16.36 | PoeticIntensity | I've got a posting, if anyone is interested. |
| 17:16.37 | josephscott | _carmony: if it's cached it's pretty fast :-) |
| 17:16.38 | josephscott | generally depends on the number of db requests that a page needs to make |
| 17:16.38 | josephscott | the fewer the better |
| 17:16.39 | _carmony | Well, I want to start making a list of goals for Dating DNA for request times |
| 17:16.39 | josephscott | not uncommon for page generation time to be less that 0.2 seconds |
| 17:16.44 | _carmony | cause right now its like 1-4 seconds |
| 17:16.55 | _carmony | which isn't good for lots of webpage hits |
| 17:17.01 | josephscott | we'd like to get that below 0.1 seconds, but not quite there yet |
| 17:17.37 | josephscott | google shows the search time in the bar off to the right |
| 17:18.21 | josephscott | there can be two different sets of time that are important as well |
| 17:18.42 | josephscott | the server time, which is how much time did it take to pull all of the page together and return it to the browser |
| 17:19.10 | josephscott | and then the perceived time the browser takes to render things, which is where Javascript techniques become more and more important |
| 17:19.38 | josephscott | so if it only takes you 0.002 seconds on the server end, but 12 seconds on the browser side then optimizing the server further isn't helpful |
| 17:20.05 | josephscott | but if it's more like 7 seconds on the server an 0.002 on the browser, then server side issues are clearly more important |
| 17:21.41 | josephscott | _carmony: if you are logging or tracking the times now then that gives you a good idea of where to improve and figure out what things are actually helping |
| 17:22.31 | _carmony | yeah, I should start logging that stuff |
| 17:22.39 | _carmony | any good ways to log or track it? |
| 17:23.51 | josephscott | start a timer at the top of a page request, finish it at the end and log it to a DB some where |
| 17:24.26 | josephscott | for site admins on wordpress.com we show the page generating time in the admin bar |
| 17:24.44 | josephscott | that allows us to focus on specific blogs/pages that take a long time to generate and figure out why |
| 17:25.06 | josephscott | another thing we do is record all of the DB queries when a site admin views a page, along with how long each one took |
| 17:25.38 | josephscott | then we can easily view all of the queries and see if there are just too many of them or if some of them are taking a lot of time to complete |
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| 17:32.45 | unum | what postgres function would you use if you wanted to detect a null value in a column |
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| 17:35.21 | macnewbold | unum: do they have is_null or something like that in postgres? |
| 17:37.10 | josephscott | is NULL the absence of a value, makes the question a bit odd :-) |
| 17:38.17 | unum | macnewbold: afraid not |
| 17:41.02 | josephscott | unum: does regular sql NOT NULL not work? |
| 17:41.55 | unum | josephscott: I need an agregrate function to tell me if one of the values is null |
| 17:42.10 | jsmith | COALESCE work for you? |
| 17:42.12 | unum | if MIN() returns null when one of the values is null that would be perfect |
| 17:42.24 | unum | MAX(COALESCE(stop_time,CAST('9999-12-31' AS timestamp with time zone)))='9999-12-31' |
| 17:42.30 | unum | gets me the result I want |
| 17:42.38 | unum | but is an aweful hack job |
| 17:43.21 | josephscott | http://joseph.randomnetworks.com/archives/2006/03/15/nvl-isnull-ifnull-and-coalesce/ |
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| 18:06.21 | macnewbold | as always, josephscott has the answer up his sleeve and blogged about it years ago |
| 18:06.31 | josephscott | haha |
| 18:07.36 | josephscott | one of my original reasons for starting a blog was to document things that I figured out but would likely forget 6 months later :-) |
| 18:09.02 | mgeary | that's the only reason i would blog |
| 18:09.11 | mgeary | and the reason i should |
| 18:12.23 | josephscott | about the best I can hope for is to remember that I blogged about it and then search for it, think of it as extend offline storage for my brain |
| 18:12.36 | josephscott | anyone using sphinx for search? this looks very cool http://sphinxsearch.com/docs/current.html#sphinxql |
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| 18:35.09 | supernovia | just change ALTER TABLE to ALTER IGNORE TABLE right? |
| 18:38.09 | supernovia | sadly that isn't helping me get past duplicate column names, etc. I'm dealing with a sad little half-updated database |
| 18:38.59 | supernovia | btw, hello all and sorry I've been out. messed up my neck :-( I'm OK now though |
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| 18:48.35 | supernovia | hi fungus |
| 18:48.54 | fungus | good morning |
| 18:48.59 | supernovia | afternoon ;-) |
| 18:49.01 | supernovia | how are things? |
| 18:49.32 | fungus | very good, just experimenting with rotating my screens in portrait mode now. |
| 18:50.05 | supernovia | That's always fun. |
| 18:50.30 | fungus | I'm not so sure about it yet. |
| 18:50.38 | supernovia | remember when those millennium graphics cards could do 'elevator desktop' ? |
| 18:50.56 | fungus | lol, yeah |
| 18:51.03 | supernovia | where it could make your desktop significantly bigger than your screen? Yeah that was so fly. |
| 18:51.26 | supernovia | I remember changing to that setting on my mom's computer, thinking it was neat, then getting int the tub |
| 18:51.35 | fungus | You can still do that in X, but it's rarely used |
| 18:52.21 | supernovia | *pound pound pound* What's wrong with the computer!?? (never make a significant change before hopping in a bubble bath) |
| 18:52.34 | mgeary | or going home |
| 18:52.36 | supernovia | yeah, I suppose you could still do it somehow :) |
| 18:52.37 | mgeary | or taking lunch |
| 18:52.38 | supernovia | Right. |
| 18:52.40 | mgeary | or going on vacation |
| 18:53.07 | supernovia | Gotta learn that valuable lesson someday |
| 18:53.21 | supernovia | I told her through the bathroom door to right-click on the desktop |
| 18:53.37 | supernovia | and then click properties. She goes "well, I did that but I don't see where properties is!" |
| 18:53.58 | supernovia | finally I got out of the tub. She'd opened Word Perfect and typed "Click on the desktop" |
| 18:54.19 | fungus | lol, parents... |
| 18:54.37 | supernovia | She's savvier now ;-) (And she has an apple) |
| 18:55.35 | supernovia | anyone got an alternative to 'alter ignore' - ? I'm getting duplicate columns thrown at me in this update and can't seem to get past the errors. |
| 18:55.37 | fungus | hmm, The vertical viewing angle on these screens isn't very good, but the horizontal viewing angle is awesome. |
| 18:55.46 | supernovia | Weird |
| 18:55.47 | mgeary | http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1906578 <-- that is pretty funny |
| 18:56.11 | fungus | brb, I gotta switch back to landscape mode, can't handle this. |
| 18:56.42 | supernovia | sweet mgeary |
| 18:56.53 | supernovia | and who ever said artists aren't very smart? :) |
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| 18:57.55 | supernovia | although he's more snickering than anything.. |
| 19:00.33 | supernovia | that was pretty cool mgeary :) makes me feel better about not having the whole collection for my kiddos. |
| 19:00.52 | mgeary | heh |
| 19:01.14 | mgeary | and me feel worse because i do |
| 19:01.18 | supernovia | heheh |
| 19:01.35 | supernovia | at least the songs aren't all the same |
| 19:02.16 | supernovia | I do swear some composers sound like they used some sort of generator to churn out their tunes. Disney's haven't been quite like that |
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| 19:04.31 | supernovia | like a certain LDS pop writer. |
| 19:05.20 | mgeary | only one...? |
| 19:06.36 | supernovia | hehe |
| 19:06.50 | supernovia | well, I'm thinking of one in particular |
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| 19:07.30 | supernovia | where you show up to ward choir to sing one of her songs and it sounds so much like the one you sang last month that everyone keeps goofing up the one chord that's different |
| 19:10.09 | supernovia | but indeed, one must duck when speaking ill of people's heroes, so I won't mention any names and will gladly admit my musical composition skills suffer in comparison. |
| 19:11.44 | macnewbold | supernovia: it isn't S. DeF. is it? |
| 19:12.17 | supernovia | I wasn't thinking of that S. DeF. |
| 19:12.58 | supernovia | er, you can take 'that' out. I actually enjoy singing some of S. DeF's music in comparison with JKP. |
| 19:13.28 | supernovia | who does some great little primary songs and what not, but it just seems once she got famous she gave up on originality entirely |
| 19:16.10 | supernovia | no offense to anyone who loves her :) |
| 19:33.17 | macnewbold | hehe |
| 19:33.49 | macnewbold | yeah, there's a fair amount of "overlap" in the very "consistent" style that is used |
| 19:34.36 | supernovia | hehe |
| 19:36.41 | utahcon | naked css day is not very nice when you are trying to mimic a design you saw... |
| 19:36.56 | supernovia | heheh, is it naked css day? |
| 19:37.26 | utahcon | we are in the 48hrs that is known as naked css day :( |
| 19:37.41 | utahcon | at least according to some sites I may or may not be trying to borrow design elements from |
| 19:39.14 | supernovia | Interesting |
| 19:39.18 | supernovia | my site is fully clothed |
| 19:39.41 | supernovia | I don't think I'd participate in this nudity anyway though. I like my site as is :) |
| 19:40.48 | utahcon | I dont do it cause it really doesn't offer anything to the user |
| 19:40.48 | utahcon | site? |
| 19:40.48 | utahcon | what site supernovia |
| 19:42.02 | supernovia | yeah I think most of my users wouldn't be very appreciative anyway |
| 19:42.11 | supernovia | Oh, my site? it's just my blog |
| 19:42.22 | supernovia | http://novapages.com |
| 19:45.02 | supernovia | hope you like it utahcon |
| 19:45.07 | supernovia | but if you don't, oh well :) |
| 19:45.15 | utahcon | lol |
| 19:45.50 | supernovia | and yes I templated that design a little when I designed the software for starving students thing |
| 19:51.52 | mindjuju | dude gets golfball to skim water and hole-in-one http://digg.com/d1oFtT |
| 19:53.55 | supernovia | Hi Mindjuju |
| 19:54.14 | supernovia | er, hi mindjuju |
| 19:54.14 | mindjuju | sup supernovia |
| 19:54.14 | mindjuju | saw on facebook you were hurting |
| 19:54.24 | supernovia | Yeah, things here are a little nuts. |
| 19:54.31 | mindjuju | sorry to hear that |
| 19:54.43 | supernovia | screwed up my neck w. stress |
| 19:54.49 | mindjuju | yipes! |
| 19:54.54 | supernovia | and the stress is even more fun :) But it's all good. |
| 19:55.24 | mindjuju | :) |
| 19:57.03 | mindjuju | so are things calming down or still stressful? |
| 19:57.04 | supernovia | Definitely stressful. It's OK though. |
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| 20:12.26 | supernovia | oh Hi SunSparc |
| 20:12.32 | supernovia | and Utah_Dave |
| 20:12.43 | Utah_Dave | hey, supernovia |
| 20:12.45 | supernovia | now I'm sad to be just leaving |
| 20:12.58 | Utah_Dave | bummer! |
| 20:13.04 | supernovia | all's well there I hope? |
| 20:13.33 | SunSparc | supernovia: Feeling any better today? |
| 20:13.38 | supernovia | Much! Thanks |
| 20:13.42 | SunSparc | Oh good. :) |
| 20:13.55 | supernovia | I think it's just a stress thing. And maybe my new glasses pinching my ears a little. |
| 20:14.15 | supernovia | So I've got my contacts back in for the moment and am trying to chill out a little. |
| 20:14.39 | SunSparc | Yeah, take it easy. |
| 20:14.42 | supernovia | Thanks :) |
| 20:14.47 | SunSparc | Go relax in your Galaxy room. |
| 20:14.50 | supernovia | heheh |
| 20:14.54 | SunSparc | :) |
| 20:15.04 | supernovia | Maybe I'll go look for some new glow in the dark paint - that's what it needs :-D |
| 20:15.13 | SunSparc | That would be sweet |
| 20:15.26 | supernovia | actually though I think I have to go next door where a girl is having one of those sell-stuff parties |
| 20:16.09 | supernovia | and then its off to get the kids after that. glowinc.com will wait for me :) |
| 20:17.32 | SunSparc | Have peaceful day, supernovia. |
| 20:17.56 | supernovia | Thanks SunSparc :-D You too! Say hi to Mrs. SunSparc for me :-D |
| 20:18.03 | supernovia | and take care all! |
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| 20:28.09 | SunSparc | ~wednesday |
| 20:28.09 | ibot | Wednesday sucks, because it is only half way through the week. |
| 20:28.30 | SunSparc | ibot, you have a really negative attitude |
| 20:29.17 | mindjuju | ~thursday |
| 20:29.17 | ibot | "This must be Thursday. I could never get the hang of Thursdays." (Arthur Dent) |
| 20:29.28 | mindjuju | ah yes, that's true |
| 20:29.30 | SunSparc | :) |
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| 20:33.33 | SunSparc | _psychic_!!!! Long time no see! |
| 20:33.51 | _psychic_ | It's been an IRC-less week |
| 20:35.28 | dataw0lf | not a bad thing |
| 20:35.37 | _psychic_ | not innately |
| 20:35.44 | _psychic_ | but it betrays a hard week |
| 20:35.48 | _psychic_ | sometimes |
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| 20:38.39 | utahcon | doh! |
| 20:38.48 | SunSparc | It has indeed been busy. |
| 20:39.01 | SunSparc | Our weewar game is taking forever. ;) |
| 20:39.08 | utahcon | When I setup the domain and site I thought... I will probably need MU... for some reason I still only installed regular WP |
| 20:39.55 | SunSparc | utahcon: probably because MU is more work. |
| 20:40.27 | utahcon | I have done MU enough I can do it in my sleep |
| 20:40.46 | utahcon | well maybe not my sleep but I have done it without caffeine |
| 20:41.13 | utahcon | I will admit that I have never migrated from WP to MU though... so this should be fun :D |
| 20:41.35 | SunSparc | :) |
| 20:41.57 | utahcon | josephscott: any words of advice for moving from a single WP to a MU install? |
| 20:42.14 | josephscott | utahcon: you moving domains as well, or just from WP to WPMU? |
| 20:42.25 | utahcon | just WP to WPMU |
| 20:42.47 | josephscott | should be fine to just do an export/import then |
| 20:43.08 | utahcon | excellent... on import does the single blog become the admin blog? |
| 20:43.56 | utahcon | if it is all to easy and you shouldn't have to explain it... just say so and I will venture out |
| 20:44.47 | josephscott | import doesn't touch that at all |
| 20:45.02 | utahcon | hmm |
| 20:45.03 | utahcon | mok |
| 20:45.06 | utahcon | ok |
| 20:45.15 | josephscott | if you do the import on the admin blog then that's where the import goes |
| 20:45.31 | utahcon | hmm |
| 20:45.31 | utahcon | ok |
| 20:45.34 | utahcon | that makes sense |
| 20:45.34 | SunSparc | I only looked into MU briefly several years ago. How do you like it? |
| 20:45.52 | utahcon | The new one based on 2.7 is awesome SunSparc |
| 20:46.07 | SunSparc | Yeah? How so, utahcon. |
| 20:46.51 | josephscott | 2.7 wp-admin UI is much nicer :-) |
| 20:47.07 | utahcon | the UI is great! |
| 20:47.34 | utahcon | beyond that I couldnt tell you what is different between versions, I don't get into the code that much. |
| 20:47.55 | utahcon | well I don't get into the WP code that much. I stay mainly in the themes, and plugins code :D |
| 20:48.01 | josephscott | 2.8 will hopefully see some widget management improvements in wp-admin, but it's not completed yet, so no promises |
| 20:48.27 | SunSparc | Cool, I may have to check into it more for my hosting customer. |
| 20:48.50 | josephscott | deciding between WP and WPMU really depends on what you need. |
| 20:49.16 | josephscott | WordPress.com is powered by WPMU and the buddypress plugins sit on top of WPMU |
| 20:50.00 | utahcon | maybe since I am updating my site I will |
| 20:50.03 | josephscott | WPMU is good if you want lots of blogs with a shared user system, but don't need to give out admin privs to each blog |
| 20:51.14 | josephscott | there are some limitations in some areas when compared with plain WP, mostly in plugin management and what "admins" can do. WPMU has site admins, that have additional powers to manage all blogs and WPMU specific features |
| 20:52.11 | utahcon | :d |
| 20:52.56 | utahcon | josephscott: does buddypress change WPMU from blogging to social network, or does it just add the features of a social network? |
| 20:53.13 | josephscott | adds social network features to WPMU |
| 20:53.20 | utahcon | kewl |
| 20:53.39 | josephscott | at which point users being able to have a blog is just one of the social network features |
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| 21:45.31 | beandog | buenos dias |
| 21:45.50 | orsonj | I just got here |
| 21:47.56 | beandog | well, turn around buddy |
| 21:56.25 | beandog | ~spin me right round |
| 21:56.26 | ibot | ACTION spins me right round right round, baby. right round like a record, baby. |
| 21:56.42 | beandog | ++ |
| 21:56.56 | herlo | lol |
| 22:17.25 | beandog | so |
| 22:17.28 | beandog | whens our next meeting |
| 22:17.58 | beandog | or LAN party |
| 22:18.08 | beandog | ~frag mindjuju |
| 22:18.09 | ibot | ACTION readies the nuke launcher and fires some rounds at mindjuju |
| 22:22.29 | herlo | ~travolta beandog |
| 22:22.30 | ibot | ACTION replaces beandog with several craters in a multi-colored display of superior fire power |
| 22:22.38 | herlo | ibot: yay, you are back! |
| 22:22.39 | ibot | I think you lost me on that one, herlo |
| 22:22.47 | beandog | ibot, your mom |
| 22:22.48 | ibot | it has been said that your mom is spelt your mum |
| 22:22.48 | herlo | ibot: are you alive? |
| 22:22.49 | ibot | The dead cannot live |
| 22:23.02 | beandog | ~karma herlo |
| 22:23.02 | ibot | herlo has karma of 3 |
| 22:23.06 | beandog | ~herlo++ |
| 22:23.10 | beandog | ~herlo |
| 22:23.10 | ibot | somebody said herlo was the best boardgamer ever, works for Guru Labs and generally reads good things his friends lend him |
| 22:23.20 | herlo | ~karma herlo |
| 22:23.20 | ibot | herlo has karma of 4 |
| 22:23.22 | beandog | herlo, boardgamer? |
| 22:23.22 | herlo | yay! |
| 22:23.28 | herlo | beandog: yep |
| 22:23.31 | beandog | like whot |
| 22:23.56 | herlo | beandog: Settlers of Catan, Carcassone, anything strategy |
| 22:24.04 | beandog | mm |
| 22:24.11 | beandog | ever played that old game Axis and Allies |
| 22:24.24 | jsmith | ibot: forget herlo |
| 22:24.24 | ibot | cannot alter locked factoids, jsmith |
| 22:24.32 | SunSparc | ~Stratego++ |
| 22:24.32 | jsmith | Darn... |
| 22:24.37 | herlo | jsmith: haha |
| 22:24.53 | Dezertol | about the only game I really play with any consistancy is "ogame.org" |
| 22:25.00 | jsmith | herlo: And don't forget... I'm now better than you at Catan :-p |
| 22:25.21 | Dezertol | uni 17 if you want to come kick it with my alliance |
| 22:25.22 | beandog | man |
| 22:25.26 | beandog | I miss the old BBS door games |
| 22:25.31 | beandog | ~LoRD++ |
| 22:25.41 | beandog | what was that one planet one. |
| 22:25.43 | herlo | jsmith: in what universe? |
| 22:26.25 | jsmith | herlo: Well, we beat the stew out of you last time we played (here at my house, remember?) |
| 22:26.55 | Dezertol | 17 |
| 22:27.03 | Dezertol | doh |
| 22:27.05 | Dezertol | never mind |
| 22:27.25 | Dezertol | planetration was one |
| 22:27.29 | _psychic_ | macnewbold: do you author the cg twitter account? |
| 22:27.30 | Dezertol | that kinda died |
| 22:27.42 | beandog | where is uphpus twitter feed, btw |
| 22:27.44 | beandog | I cant find it |
| 22:27.54 | herlo | jsmith: we didn't finish that game, remember? |
| 22:28.11 | SunSparc | beandog: should be @uphpu |
| 22:28.20 | beandog | SunSparc, yah but how do you follow it? |
| 22:28.39 | SunSparc | Sheesh, twitter noobs |
| 22:28.47 | SunSparc | :) |
| 22:28.47 | SunSparc | twitter.com/uphpu |
| 22:28.48 | jsmith | herlo: No, we finished it... My wife won, and I came in second. |
| 22:28.58 | SunSparc | lol |
| 22:29.02 | beandog | now why didnt I try that. |
| 22:29.04 | beandog | -_- |
| 22:29.10 | beandog | everytime I searched for "uphpu" it didnt find anything |
| 22:29.10 | herlo | jsmith: no, your friends had to leave and it ended early, I remember |
| 22:30.12 | _psychic_ | looks like @uphpu == @thinbegin |
| 22:31.28 | beandog | deceived! |
| 22:40.51 | itimber | I'm out.... later guys |
| 22:41.19 | herlo | did he even talk today? |
| 22:41.51 | beandog | I heard him in my head all day long. |
| 22:42.21 | beandog | sometimes I hear macnewbold too. He tells me to format my harddrive. |
| 22:43.21 | herlo | sounds like macnewbold |
| 22:46.40 | beandog | bueno, me voy |
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| 23:20.14 | SunSparc | Night all! |
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