| 00:04.01 | Utah_Dave | mindjuju: yeah, I was in D.C. for 2 weeks |
| 00:05.32 | mindjuju | sounds like fun |
| 00:07.19 | Utah_Dave | yeah, it was a lot of work, though |
| 00:07.34 | Utah_Dave | we pulled about 8,000 feet of cat6 and fiber |
| 00:07.40 | mindjuju | yipes! |
| 00:07.50 | mindjuju | did you make bank though? |
| 00:07.50 | Utah_Dave | exactly |
| 00:07.57 | Utah_Dave | just my regular salary |
| 00:08.08 | mindjuju | sadly! |
| 00:08.22 | mindjuju | course though, any money, these days, is good money |
| 00:08.29 | Utah_Dave | actually, the per diem in D.C. isn't too bad |
| 00:08.37 | mindjuju | ah, i love per diem |
| 00:08.40 | Utah_Dave | yeah |
| 00:08.54 | Utah_Dave | I'm thinking of taking a job out there. |
| 00:08.59 | Utah_Dave | not pulling wire, though |
| 00:09.10 | mindjuju | we don't do a real good per diem here, but at my old job in Houston, we had a real sweet one |
| 00:09.15 | mindjuju | so you might move to dc? |
| 00:09.19 | mindjuju | over by jsmith? |
| 00:09.30 | Utah_Dave | yeah, northern virginia |
| 00:09.37 | mindjuju | wow |
| 00:09.48 | Utah_Dave | Not sure yet if I want to live there, but I'm going to apply and see how it goes |
| 00:09.56 | Utah_Dave | Gov jobs take forever to shake out |
| 00:10.42 | mindjuju | that's really pretty country out there |
| 00:10.46 | mindjuju | i'd be envious |
| 00:11.09 | Utah_Dave | I love all the trees |
| 00:11.16 | mindjuju | yeah, i miss trees |
| 00:11.26 | mindjuju | i lived out in southern virginia, went to DC several times |
| 00:11.34 | mindjuju | well, the whole east coast is not but trees |
| 00:11.41 | Utah_Dave | If I can find somewhere to live that's less than a 30 minute drive from work, then I'll probably go for it |
| 00:38.39 | itimber | I'm out... later guys |
| 00:40.56 | Utah_Dave | mindjuju: have you seen this? CSS is awesome http://www.zazzle.com/css_is_awesome_mug-168716435071981928 |
| 00:41.15 | mindjuju | heh, how true |
| 00:42.12 | herlo | have you guys seen this? http://960.gs/ |
| 00:42.21 | herlo | Utah_Dave: ^^ mindjuju: ^^ |
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| 00:50.25 | Utah_Dave | herlo: looks pretty interesting |
| 00:51.11 | Lone_Wanderer | Have you used it? |
| 00:51.40 | herlo | no, but Gabe Gunderson recommended it the other day. I'm going to have a look at it |
| 00:52.41 | herlo | Lone_Wanderer: it's simple CSS implementation |
| 00:53.15 | herlo | Lone_Wanderer: as it says on their site: The premise of the system is ideally suited to rapid prototyping, but it would work equally well when integrated into a production environment. There are printable sketch sheets, design layouts, and a CSS file that have identical measurements. |
| 00:53.51 | Lone_Wanderer | cool |
| 00:56.02 | herlo | Lone_Wanderer: ooh, Portland? Are you from there? I love that area... |
| 00:56.11 | Lone_Wanderer | From Minnesota. |
| 00:56.18 | Lone_Wanderer | Never been to Portland before. |
| 00:56.21 | herlo | Lone_Wanderer: but you have friends in Portland? |
| 00:56.43 | herlo | or are all of you going together? |
| 00:57.27 | Lone_Wanderer | I have friends in Portland yeah :) |
| 00:57.42 | Lone_Wanderer | Might Ducks was filmed primarily in Minnesota :) |
| 00:57.48 | herlo | http://www.goducks.com/ |
| 00:58.03 | herlo | Lone_Wanderer: I know about the movie :) |
| 00:58.44 | herlo | Lone_Wanderer: http://herlo.smugmug.com/gallery/3512280_aQ3hc#198274526_f2mhK-L-LB |
| 00:58.51 | herlo | Eugene, Oregon! ^^ |
| 00:59.10 | Utah_Dave | herlo: have you set up a hylafax server before? |
| 00:59.17 | herlo | http://herlo.smugmug.com/gallery/3512280_aQ3hc#198274560_3gaCw-L-LB |
| 00:59.20 | Lone_Wanderer | (Who was a huge Ducks fan.) |
| 01:00.08 | Lone_Wanderer | :D that's awesome Herlo |
| 01:00.09 | herlo | nice |
| 01:00.19 | herlo | Lone_Wanderer: yeah, that's a few years ago, 2005 maybe |
| 01:00.39 | herlo | wow, I'm good. July 2005 |
| 01:00.49 | Lone_Wanderer | :) |
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| 01:55.53 | dataw0lf | I was born in Eugene |
| 01:56.05 | herlo | nice |
| 01:57.04 | Lone_Wanderer | cool |
| 01:59.48 | dataw0lf | it's a really cool town, the little Sunday market is win. |
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| 13:11.54 | utahcon | Help America get better broadband, help determine what broadband is, write the FCC with your thoughts http://tinyurl.com/dh2hrl |
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| 14:07.59 | utahcon | whoa! Lonnie is here before 9? |
| 14:08.16 | fungus | yeah it hurts. |
| 14:08.51 | utahcon | maybe it is the chair... you should get one of these http://www.topdeq.com/topdeq/product.do?Ntk=All_en&R=288178845535872&Ntt=h09&y=0&fastSearch=h09&x=0 |
| 14:09.26 | fungus | production day for high profile asterisk server |
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| 14:18.42 | herlo | or one of these: http://www.hermanmiller.com/CDA/SSA/Product/0,,a10-c440-p8,00.html |
| 14:20.05 | jsmith | fungus: w00t! Yay for Asterisk! |
| 14:21.26 | fungus | Actually it's a Digium AA60 |
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| 15:10.30 | fungus | Erg, I hate Qwest. |
| 15:10.54 | fungus | They messed up the port of our phone numbers. |
| 15:11.21 | jsmith | fungus: I could have told you they were going to mess it up, even before you started! |
| 15:11.38 | jsmith | fungus: Oh, you should join us in #utaug to really hear how we feel about telcos |
| 15:11.52 | fungus | lol, that is why we went over the order several times before finalizing it. |
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| 15:16.06 | herlo | whew! now I can go back to ignoring work |
| 15:17.07 | herlo | I need to figure out a better way of knowing what code changes are on our live server :( |
| 15:18.26 | carmony | major bug? |
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| 15:21.18 | jsmith | herlo: What, no change management? |
| 15:23.03 | herlo | jsmith: it's coming |
| 15:23.13 | herlo | jsmith: I have to deal with the PHB's |
| 15:23.43 | herlo | and the old way of doing things. We're using svn, but no tagging or anything else... |
| 15:24.17 | herlo | plus, I don't want to tag the entire tree, since it'll make a replica of a very large, unweildy tree. |
| 15:24.27 | jsmith | herlo: svn export is your friend :-) |
| 15:24.33 | herlo | s/weil/wiel/ |
| 15:24.39 | herlo | jsmith: we're using capistrano |
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| 15:25.42 | herlo | jsmith: it provides plenty of the functionality to manage this structure. Capistrano uses an scm to deploy. The problem isn't there, it's with project creep. |
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| 16:22.09 | SunSparc | ~tuesday |
| 16:22.10 | ibot | Tuesday sucks, because it follows Monday (see monday). |
| 16:25.15 | SunSparc | ibot, I actually like Monday and Tuesday. You have a bad attitude. |
| 16:25.16 | ibot | You actually like Monday and Tuesday. You have a bad attitude.? |
| 16:31.06 | unum | ~saturday |
| 16:31.07 | ibot | Saturday is the day that sucks the least! |
| 16:31.13 | unum | ~sunday |
| 16:31.14 | ibot | Sunday is the day all trolls swarm to #debian, avoid at all cost to remain sane. |
| 16:33.34 | mindjuju | anybody having issues copying vdi files since upgrade 2.1.4? i'm seeing a lot of similar google fixes, but none that seem to work for me |
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| 17:21.13 | dataw0lf | More layoffs. Just lost two more programmers. |
| 17:21.34 | mindjuju | sorry to hear that dataw0lf |
| 17:22.11 | dataw0lf | :\ |
| 17:22.32 | dataw0lf | the print mentality of Gannett is just killing them, from the inside out. |
| 17:23.18 | mindjuju | not sure what you mean by that |
| 17:23.37 | dataw0lf | print versus digital, the great crux of the newspaper industry right now. |
| 17:24.32 | mindjuju | i've heard there has been a big audience transfer from print to digital |
| 17:25.09 | dataw0lf | well of course there has been. |
| 17:25.20 | mindjuju | course, don't think the bloggers can do what journalists do |
| 17:25.20 | herlo | dataw0lf: Gannett should consider becoming more the local paper in print and national online, that's the strategy I think that will work. |
| 17:25.37 | dataw0lf | but many newspaper companies haven't changed their advertising model. |
| 17:25.47 | herlo | dataw0lf: I've thought that strategy would work for years |
| 17:26.24 | dataw0lf | mindjuju: "bloggers" ? How about news.google.com or one of a hundred news aggregators. Reverse publishing to online by major news outlets, accessible freely, is replacing the print newspaper. |
| 17:26.28 | herlo | dataw0lf: yeah, it's the slow moving world of "we want to hang on to every penny and can't consider change until we're forced to do so" mentality |
| 17:26.28 | dataw0lf | Not bloggers. |
| 17:26.48 | dataw0lf | herlo: well during a bubble you'll get by but when a recession hits... |
| 17:26.50 | dataw0lf | *CLUNK* |
| 17:27.29 | herlo | dataw0lf: I think print works on small scale *all* the time, and digital work at a large scale *most* of the time |
| 17:30.58 | mindjuju | i think city weekly and houston press and the like are still doing well |
| 17:31.23 | mindjuju | can't really beat targeted audience + free |
| 17:31.26 | herlo | sure, but they are a free paper |
| 17:31.32 | herlo | :) |
| 17:37.58 | unum | the main revenue model for papers was classifieds |
| 17:38.14 | unum | I prefer to read my paper in print |
| 17:38.34 | unum | it's definetly worth the $.50 a day |
| 17:42.16 | herlo | unum: display ads were actually just as profitable if not more in many cases |
| 17:43.11 | herlo | problem is, most people now go to craigslist or google (or similar) for classifieds, display advertising respectively, because it's so much cheaper |
| 17:43.57 | dataw0lf | classifieds is definitely a part of it |
| 17:46.01 | fungus | http://digg.com/dialogg/Trent_Reznor |
| 17:47.02 | fungus | Speaking of new business models |
| 17:51.10 | fungus | It's supposed to be a digg link, it is the real source. |
| 17:51.27 | utahcon | I clicked... |
| 17:51.32 | herlo | utahcon: you need to visit before being a doofus :) |
| 17:51.32 | utahcon | digg is sooo 2008 |
| 17:51.45 | herlo | utahcon: but it's trent reznor |
| 17:51.50 | fungus | Yeah, but Trent Reznor still rules |
| 17:51.59 | utahcon | yes true |
| 17:52.01 | utahcon | Trent is the bomb. |
| 17:52.23 | dataw0lf | digg comments actually compete with YouTube for idiocy. |
| 17:53.11 | fungus | Agreed, digg/youtube/slashdot comments are a waste of time. |
| 18:04.18 | mindjuju | oh i don't know, i usually get great info from the comments |
| 18:04.23 | mindjuju | like who was the first poster |
| 18:04.49 | mindjuju | who was the second, the third, the forth, ad nauseam |
| 18:04.56 | fungus | lol |
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| 18:13.41 | macnewbold | ~yow |
| 18:39.17 | mgeary | ~rlart |
| 18:39.18 | ibot | tries to shut optikal up |
| 18:39.28 | mgeary | yeah, that optikal, what a chatterbox |
| 18:47.21 | dataw0lf | he has a purty mouth |
| 18:54.55 | optikal | :D |
| 18:55.32 | mindjuju | ~optikal |
| 18:55.32 | ibot | rumour has it, optikal is dataw0lf's ex girlfriend |
| 18:55.38 | mindjuju | heh |
| 18:55.42 | optikal | >_> |
| 18:55.43 | optikal | <_< |
| 18:56.43 | dataw0lf | EX?! |
| 19:00.24 | mgeary | dataw0lf got dumped by optikal? |
| 19:01.25 | fungus | http://imagebin.org/44679 |
| 19:03.53 | mindjuju | that's funny |
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| 19:31.09 | utahcon | w00t! One of my publishers I review for wants to quote me on the next reprint of the book :D |
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| 19:33.14 | Lone_Wanderer | Nice! |
| 19:35.42 | utahcon | I am pretty excited... |
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| 20:44.45 | mindjuju | heh |
| 20:45.33 | mindjuju | seems like that's british for ... uh.... **** Off |
| 20:45.48 | mindjuju | i wonder if he knows that |
| 20:50.51 | fungus | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V_sign |
| 20:51.04 | mindjuju | yeah, was just reading that |
| 20:51.25 | mindjuju | i knew the flick with the v like this V was bad |
| 20:51.31 | mindjuju | but this is a > |
| 20:51.35 | mindjuju | i thought that was bad too |
| 20:51.53 | fungus | wow, wikipedia is full of useless information |
| 20:53.31 | mindjuju | this is the one for thebigdog - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finger_(gesture) |
| 20:54.07 | fungus | lol http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-439587/Blair-boater-crude-hand-gesture-Class-75.html |
| 20:54.08 | thebigdog | ~flip mindjuju |
| 20:54.09 | ibot | ACTION gives mindjuju the .|.. ..|. |
| 20:54.21 | mindjuju | sup thebigdog |
| 20:54.26 | mindjuju | did you click the link? |
| 20:54.45 | thebigdog | no i dont for fear of rickroll |
| 20:54.48 | mindjuju | i forgot that ibot command, thx for the reminder |
| 20:54.58 | mindjuju | that's an awesome link fungus |
| 20:55.11 | mindjuju | i'm pretty sure the sideways v was bad, but i don't see anything on it |
| 20:55.14 | mindjuju | maybe it isn't |
| 21:11.16 | utahcon | fungus: Did I hear a debate about why the flag is at half mast? Who died? |
| 21:12.13 | fungus | No one died. |
| 21:12.28 | fungus | They tried to take it down for maintenance, but it got stuck. |
| 21:15.49 | Utah_Dave | that's funny, fungus |
| 21:16.38 | utahcon | fungus: really? |
| 21:16.59 | fungus | Yeah, it's missing a star, and a bit torn. But getting stuck... hilarious. |
| 21:17.37 | fungus | Apparently the front desk is getting lots of calls from nearby businesses asking who died. |
| 21:18.43 | mindjuju | i'd make something up |
| 21:22.01 | fungus | bummer, they fixed it, it's back up now. |
| 21:22.31 | utahcon | The star has been missing for quite some time... it can wait a few more days to be fixed :D |
| 21:22.51 | utahcon | I just assume that is Franklin Covey's way of saying they don't respect Rhode Island as a state. |
| 21:23.25 | mindjuju | wait wait, franklin covey own SoS? |
| 21:24.52 | fungus | No, just the office building |
| 21:25.13 | mindjuju | ah |
| 21:29.42 | utahcon | we have cooler owners than Stephen Covey. |
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| 21:53.41 | undertakingyou | I need to make a slideshow that looks something like this: http://stellaposy.com/index2.php?v=v1 . I would like to do something like that without using flash. Any pointers? |
| 21:56.05 | mindjuju | javascript does have a timeline feature where you could organize events like this |
| 21:56.17 | mindjuju | i'm not sure exactly how it works, or how to invoke it |
| 21:56.28 | mindjuju | i just remember making something similar to this a LONG time ago |
| 21:57.08 | undertakingyou | I can find lots of Javascript slideshows. But none of them have the 'expanding frame' that fits the picture size. |
| 21:57.10 | mindjuju | undertakingyou , do know though, it won't be as fluid, but... |
| 21:57.51 | mindjuju | expanding frame won't be as bad, i've seen that particular effect before |
| 21:58.29 | undertakingyou | mindjuju: any pointers to that specifically? |
| 21:58.48 | undertakingyou | I must be google stupid because all my searches turn up nothing. |
| 21:59.25 | mindjuju | right now i'm googling Ajax photo gallery |
| 21:59.37 | mindjuju | cause i remember it was some kind of gallery that had the effect |
| 21:59.41 | mindjuju | and that it was javascript |
| 22:00.49 | mindjuju | undertakingyou, it was kind of like this, but there was a better transisition between the landscape and portrait images |
| 22:00.50 | mindjuju | http://minishowcase.net/demo/ |
| 22:01.29 | mgeary | utahcon: you mean Hawaii? |
| 22:01.53 | utahcon | what? |
| 22:02.21 | utahcon | I don't know which star was actually missing... |
| 22:02.33 | mgeary | heh |
| 22:02.35 | mgeary | :) |
| 22:02.36 | utahcon | so I just guessed Rhode Island... |
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| 23:49.21 | mgeary | man... |
| 23:50.26 | mgeary | i hate it when designers deliver a photoshop file with a jillion layers, and don't give you any way to know what layers should be on and off for various views |
| 23:50.35 | mgeary | "Layer Comps", people!! |