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14:25.37utahconthat is the best phone call ever on a Monday morning.
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14:53.01mindjujudid you just get a raise utahcon ?
14:53.13utahconnot that good
14:53.44mindjujuthe company is sending you to Bora Bora to do some web work out there for them?
15:02.18utahconnot that good either
15:02.26utahcondamn you ... you made this less exciting!
15:02.43utahconNo ... a debtor of mine is pulling all their bad marks off my credit report :D
15:02.53mindjujuhey!  that's cool!
15:02.54utahconwhich accounts for about 50% of my debt :D
15:03.17mindjujuthat's way cool!
15:03.39utahconI think so too :D
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15:43.45mindjujui found something on the seriousness of sickness that is affecting the male population - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXLHWmjA5IE (100% no rickroll guarantee )
15:44.48utahconhe is one of my favorite actors
15:44.55utahconloved him in Shaun of the Dead
15:44.56mindjuju:)
15:45.10mindjujudude, that was one of the best -- awesomest movies of all time
15:45.23mindjujuthough i do think Hot Fuzz was better
15:46.15utahconDid you see Run Fat boy Run?
15:46.22mindjujuof course
15:46.33mindjuju:)
15:46.56mindjujuthough i haven't seen all of How to Alienate people
15:47.17utahcon<PROTECTED>
15:49.12mindjujuoh wow
15:49.32mindjujui've been wasting my time, what is this Man stroke Woman business with
15:49.39mindjujuEdgar Wright, et al.,?
15:53.08utahconhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gimiDBAK2wA&feature=PlayList&p=FFA34DF91010FFD9&index=0&playnext=1
15:53.16utahconno rick rolll
15:53.25utahcon"Wedding cake" from Man Stroke Woman
15:56.58mindjujuutahcon, that's awesome!
15:57.22utahconI shall be downloading this tonight http://www.amazon.com/Man-Stroke-Woman-Complete-First/dp/B000R7I3VO
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16:28.56SunSparcLooks like this could be a cool new game:  http://www.swtor.com/
16:29.57dataw0lfhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2M3btM1XIe8
16:31.40utahconhttp://tinyurl.com/cmlwwq Very cool. Way to make it better would be to add a laptop tray, and space for the laptop when folded up as a bag. That would be kick ass! (100% rick roll free)
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16:32.39SunSparcdataw0lf: who knew Mickey had such moves.  :)
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16:50.34utahconmindjuju: is your twitter mindjuju?
16:50.59mindjujuyeah
16:51.12mindjujui tried to add you to twitter, but it was giving me some grief on Friday
16:51.16mindjujui'll try again
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16:57.47SunSparcDexterTheDragon: How are you liking Pandora?
16:59.30DexterTheDragonSunSparc: its nice for atleast having something to listen to while at work
16:59.43DexterTheDragonwon't replace my music library at home
17:01.27SunSparcWell, I know this would be far too cutting edge for you, but you could perhaps install SimplifyMedia and listen to your home library anywhere.  ;)
17:01.54SunSparcI think once you figure out some of the possibilities with Pandora, you may like it a lot more.
17:02.27mindjujuand pay bandwidth both ways
17:02.42DexterTheDragonSunSparc: Once I get my file server running at home I'll setup online streaming for my music again
17:02.56utahconI need to get a better connection at home
17:03.15utahconif my wife turns on the lappy, my server loses it's connection (wireless) to the router two floors up
17:04.19SunSparcutahcon: You just need another WAP that has the ability to bridge/extend your network.
17:04.47SunSparcDexterTheDragon: Check out my Pandora stations for an example of what you can do with it:  http://www.pandora.com/people/jonathan9
17:05.34mgearymmm. Lionel Ritchie, Loverboy, Air Supply. Awesome stuff, SunSparc
17:05.52mgearyooh. REO Speedwagon
17:05.54SunSparclol, mgeary, you are reading your list.
17:06.00mgearyheh
17:06.11SunSparc:)
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17:22.11mgearyibot: where's your "J" ?
17:26.41SunSparcibot, find your 'j'
17:29.40mgearyanyone here use Media Temple servers at all?
17:29.50mgearydo they give you root access?
17:30.46mgearyi hate Plesk
17:44.42mgearywhere can i specify that?
17:44.57mgearywhere can i mange ssh users?
17:47.44thebigdogssh users are users on the system
17:49.00mgearyi'm in
17:49.28mgearyi'm not finding yum on this machine. What other package managers are likely to be here?
17:49.55thebigdogyou are using plesk
17:49.57mgearyno
17:50.00mgearycli as root
17:50.07mgearyLinux inside.domain.com 2.6.9-023stab046.2-enterprise #1 SMP Mon Dec 10 15:22:33 MSK 2007 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
17:50.12mgearythat's the uname -a output
17:50.17mgearywhat am i running?
17:50.24dataw0lfcat /etc/*release*
17:50.43mgearycentOS 5
17:50.47mgearydoesn't that ship with yum?
17:51.37mgearyi need to update python and get mod_wsgi installed
17:51.41mgearyany recommendations?
17:52.12dataw0lfon installing or... ?
17:52.31mgearywell, usually i use yum
17:52.35mgearybut i can't find that
17:52.45dataw0lfI generally build custom debs for stuff as critical as python and mod_wsgi on my machines.
17:52.57mgearyis there likely to be a different package manager on this machine?
17:53.20mgearyi don't mind building mod_wsgi on my own, since it's clear nothing else here is using it
17:53.37dataw0lfdunno, try this: http://www.electrictoolbox.com/install-yum-with-rpm-on-centos/
17:54.49mgearythanks
17:54.55mgearyalso found this: http://techglobber.wordpress.com/2008/02/14/installing-yum-subversion-on-media-temple-dv-feb-2008/
17:59.36mgearybah
18:00.27mgearyokay, help me out. When i do this:
18:00.36mgearyrpm -Uvh http://mirror.centos.org/centos/5/os/i386/CentOS/yum-3.2.19-18.el5.centos.noarch.rpm
18:00.39mgearyit tells me:
18:00.48mgearyerror: Failed dependencies:
18:00.48mgearyyum-fastestmirror is needed by yum-3.2.19-18.el5.centos.noarch
18:00.54mgearyhowever, when i try this:
18:01.03mgearyrpm -Uvh http://mirror.centos.org/centos/5/os/i386/CentOS/yum-fastestmirror-1.1.16-13.el5.centos.noarch.rpm
18:01.05mgearyit tells me:
18:01.11mgearyerror: Failed dependencies:
18:01.12mgearyyum >= 3.0 is needed by yum-fastestmirror-1.1.16-13.el5.centos.noarch
18:01.19mgearyso i can't install yum unless i've installed  yum
18:11.27mgearygot it
18:11.28mgearythanks
18:28.15fungusmgeary: you can remove the fastestmirror plugin to yum
18:28.34fungusCheck the yum config, I don't remember the specifics though.
18:31.23mgearyi downloaded both rpms and installed them at the same time. worked
18:31.24mgearyi'm all set now
18:44.40herlodataw0lf: hi?
18:46.14herlomgeary: you need to remove yum-fastestmirror first, then reinstall it afterward.  There's probably something strange about the way centos did its updates
18:46.26mgearywell, i'm all set now
18:46.30herloadi
18:46.30mgearybut thanks
18:46.33herlosaid!
18:46.35herlogah!
18:46.59herlomgeary: yeah, blame dataw0lf for that :)
18:47.07mgearyheh
19:00.52mgearyheh
19:01.00mgearyjust saw this question on #django:
19:01.16mgeary"in general it's not necessary to do form validation if your application server is protected by a firewall, right?"
19:02.30herlolol
19:04.38SunSparcheh
19:04.49SunSparcDid he get jumped on?
19:05.22mgearyyes
19:05.28jsmithmgeary: Well, you could go into more detail about what *kind* of firewall.... there are application-specific layer-7 firewalls out there.
19:05.29SunSparcGood
19:06.05mgearyheh
19:07.03_psychic_I set up one of those on april fools day :)
19:09.19_psychic_we did something similar
19:09.36_psychic_we protected our users from malicious images by turning all twitter avatars into my little ponies
19:09.49_psychic_and sanitized outgoing tweets by turning them upside down
19:09.51_psychic_much safe.
19:09.54_psychic_*safer.
19:09.56utahconok now... I need a plugin for pidgin that will send sms messages :D
19:13.22fungusutahcon: use the AIM protocol
19:13.32fungussend to +1801XXXXXXX
19:13.54utahconis there anything you don't know
19:14.09funguslol, lots and lots
19:14.20mindjujufungus is almost vger level
19:15.14mindjujuwhere vger = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V'ger
19:15.30fungusYes, I got the reference.
19:16.08mindjujuyeah sure vger, but not everybody here watch's star trek
19:16.34utahconthat was new to me
19:16.39mindjuju:)
19:17.04SunSparc~startrek utahcon
19:17.54utahconI read that start rek
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19:35.32beandogg'day
19:35.41mindjujusup yo
19:35.57SunSparc~boomerang beandog
19:36.00beandoghows it.
19:36.15mindjujujust chillin' doing some coding
19:36.17mindjujuu?
19:36.21SunSparcbeandog: http://www.swtor.com/
19:36.23beandogtrying to get back in the swing of things
19:36.52beandogSunSparc, whots this?
19:36.58beandogKOTOR+++++++++++++++++=
19:37.00beandog!1
19:37.06beandognew game?
19:37.08SunSparcToo much distraction.  ;)
19:37.11SunSparcYes
19:37.15SunSparcAfter KOTOR
19:37.32mindjujuactually swtor i thought was MMORPG?
19:37.32SunSparcWoWesque it appears
19:37.39mindjujumade by same guys as KOTOR
19:38.09beandogoh, man
19:38.12beandogits an MMORPG?
19:38.14beandogpoo.
19:38.30SunSparcheh
19:38.31beandogoh well, if BioWare really is doing it
19:38.33beandogit might be good.
19:38.35mgearyif i ever gets me some time, i wanna play Fallout 3
19:38.37beandogNWN online is freaking fantastic.
19:38.51mindjujui've heard good things about fallout3
19:38.57mgearygame o' the year
19:39.06utahconmgeary: that means nothing
19:39.07_psychic_SunSparc: my bro in law is on the animation team for swtor
19:39.17mgearyFallout 1 + 2 were awesome
19:39.23mindjujui wonder if swtor allows you to choose ewok for a char class
19:39.30SunSparc_psychic_: What an amazing job that must be.
19:39.44SunSparcmindjuju: heh
19:39.48herlomindjuju: ping
19:39.56utahconstupid G1... still no decent PDF support :(
19:40.05beandogI couldnt really get into Fallout
19:40.12beandogthe graphics just bugged me.
19:40.19beandogplus I got stuck. -_-
19:40.31herlomindjuju: pm when you get a minute :)
19:40.48beandogooh mindjuju that reminds me
19:43.24beandogSunSparc, did you ever play jade empire
19:43.34SunSparcbeandog: No
19:43.50SunSparcGood?
19:44.11beandogwell, not the pc version
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20:15.42SunSparcbeandog: count me in on that
20:16.05beandogI can seriously down a pint of Haagen Daaz in like 15 minutes
20:16.33beandog~chocolate peanut butter++
20:16.33ibotACTION hands peanut butter++ 2 pounds of the best Belgian chocolate, 3 pounds of the best Swiss chocolate and a gift certificate for 100 pounds of whatever other chocolate peanut butter++ might want
20:16.35SunSparcI can seriously make a pint of Haagen Daaz last for hours.  :)
20:16.38beandogheh
20:16.56SunSparcI like to eat my ice cream with a small spoon, very slowly.
20:17.34SunSparcThe wife thinks I am weird. :)
20:17.40mgearythe european way
20:17.50SunSparc:)
20:18.01beandogthose crazy euros.
20:18.12SunSparcheh
20:18.56beandogbunch of barbarians.
20:19.46beandogso, anyone want an Xbox?
20:19.51beandogI have no idea why I bought one ... again.
20:19.56mindjujui'll take it
20:19.57SunSparcmgeary: Moving?
20:19.59mgeary100k euros can get you a 125-sq. meter apartment in a very decent part of Berlin
20:20.07mindjujuhow much did you buy it for beandog?
20:20.12beandog$50 @ gamestop
20:20.16beandogprobably too much, but oh well.
20:20.18mgearySunSparc: it's a long-term goal of ours to have an apartment in Germany
20:20.28mindjujufiddy!  wow, sis in law bought one for $40
20:20.29mgearywhere we'd live a few months every year
20:20.33mindjujudid it have games or remote?
20:20.34SunSparcmgeary: For vacations?
20:20.40SunSparcmgeary: Nice
20:20.40beandogmindjuju, nope, just one controller
20:20.41mgearySunSparc: well, workations
20:20.48beandogmindjuju, I saw a Star Wars game for XBox and I caved.
20:21.06SunSparcmgeary: Well, as long as it is cheaper than a hotel
20:21.11mgearyyeah
20:21.14mindjujuyeah, there are only a few games that are xbox + star wars that are good
20:21.18mindjujulike republic commando
20:21.19mgearyand a familiar, comfortable place
20:21.22mindjujuand well, kotor
20:21.25beandogmindjuju, oh man that is an awesome game
20:21.29beandogso is that one, Ive got both on PC
20:21.35mindjujuand battle fronts II
20:21.37beandogmindjuju, I also got TRON 2.0
20:21.41beandoganother awesome game.
20:21.47beandogand I bought Thief.  Looks fun
20:21.52beandogAssassins Creed was fun, but meh.
20:22.47mgearymeh
20:23.11beandogor really bloody violence
20:25.11SunSparcbeandog: Have you tried Dora's Great Adventure?
20:25.22dataw0lfhehe
20:25.32SunSparc:)
20:25.58dataw0lfonly computer games I play are Civ IV and WoW
20:26.14mindjujubeandog, i'll prolly buy, how soon are you looking to sell
20:26.22beandogmindjuju, today
20:26.23beandogheh
20:26.57dataw0lfstarting my Death Knight tonight
20:27.26SunSparcdataw0lf: What race?
20:28.10dataw0lfprolly gnome
20:28.31dataw0lfgreat pvp race
20:28.43dataw0lfand that's the only thing I really do in WoW when I'm not grinding quests.
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20:28.48SunSparcAre they?
20:28.56dataw0lfyea, Escape Artist is a great racial ability.
20:29.07SunSparcGood to know
20:29.20mgearymight be getting close to the time to get a new Desktop Mac
20:29.30dataw0lfas many stun/root breakers as you can get, SunSparc, you gotta take em
20:29.48SunSparcGood point
20:29.59SunSparcBeing stunned without any counter is annoying
20:30.04dataw0lfyea
20:30.13dataw0lfInsignia of the Alliance++
20:30.52SunSparcI gotta get to know the Pally skill trees all over again.  They have changed much since I last played.
20:31.14dataw0lfpallies are pretty ridiculous in pvp
20:31.37SunSparcThat is what I hear.  They did not used to be like that.
20:31.38dataw0lfkilling a good pally is like getting a root canal.
20:31.45SunSparcheh
20:32.58xtrementlsounds painful
20:32.58beandoggetting a cavity fixed was actually worse.
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20:36.04unummy root canal didn't hurt at all
20:36.09unumthe nerve was already dead
20:47.16xtrementlgood point
20:57.32itimberisn't there a calculator built into the terminal?
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20:57.38itimberwhat's the command for that?
20:58.25*** topic/#UPHPU by mindjuju -> Utah PHP Users Group | UPHPU.org | UTOS announces 2009 Conference Theme - http://tinyurl.com/utosc2009-venue
20:58.34mindjuju~apb dexterthedragon
20:58.35ibotACTION summons Dog the Bounty Hunter to rough up dexterthedragon
21:00.26xtrementlcal
21:00.41mindjujusup xtrementl
21:00.57mindjujuis mrkrow there in office?
21:00.58xtrementljust thought i'd jump on the channel since i'm never on seems like
21:01.04xtrementlyep he is
21:01.16xtrementlat least he was looks like he signed off
21:01.18xtrementli'm at home
21:01.22mindjujuah
21:01.33mindjujucalled codegreene, but nobody seems to be in office
21:01.37mindjujuor i just got the answering machine
21:01.47xtrementlwho were you trying to contact?
21:01.57mindjujukrow / chad
21:04.06xtrementldexter's letting him know
21:15.24mindjujuthx xtrementl
21:15.29xtrementlno worries
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22:17.31joshuabud_Anyone in here
22:17.53joshuabud_Looking for a freelancer for integration. If not the correct room please direct accordingly
22:17.56jsmithjoshuabud_: Naw... we're all just robots
22:18.22joshuabud_well I was just harassed in the #php room for asking :)
22:18.28joshuabud_I'm in Ogden
22:18.31joshuabud_BRB
22:27.26joshuabud_I'm back
22:27.57tierrayou're in the right channel I'm sure
22:27.58joshuabud_Looking for a PHP master to integrate already developed script into a Joomla website with minor adjustment
22:28.32SunSparcSounds painful.
22:28.36joshuabud_LOL
22:28.41SunSparc:)
22:28.58joshuabud_I can provide specifics if interested
22:29.04xtrementlminor is usually relative
22:29.14SunSparcHang around a bit, someone may bite.
22:29.30SunSparcxtrementl: exactly
22:30.04joshuabud_The software is built for joomla but client has additional requirements that need to be addressed
22:31.32joshuabud_We have Joomla with VirtueMart installed. We also have bought and installed the VM Affiliate component.
22:33.51joshuabud_This is what the client sent over
22:39.27carmonyhey joshuabud_, you're in Ogden?
22:40.04joshuabud_yep
22:40.30joshuabud_This job would take all of maybe 3-5 hours if that
22:40.43joshuabud_willing to pay up to $350-$400
22:40.53joshuabud_for a client so it's not my money
22:40.55joshuabud_:)
22:41.16joshuabud_Will pay half up front half when job is complet
22:44.13joshuabud_LOL
22:44.35joshuabud_sorry company policy not to pay for nothing upfront :)
22:44.55joshuabud_company/personal doesn't really matter as I'm the company LOL
22:45.44beandogheh
22:46.11tierrajoshuabud_: you might get more interest by posting this to the UPHPU mailing list, a lot more people will see it
22:46.47joshuabud_Please provide direction to this list
22:46.50tierramaybe even someone with experience with Joomla
22:47.05tierrahttp://uphpu.org/mailing-lists-and-irc/
22:47.10dataw0lfI've heard Satan is a big Joomla fan.
22:47.44dataw0lfhere's the employment form for posting to the jobs list: http://uphpu.org/employment/
22:48.52beandogI just got a call today from somebody about a php job
22:49.03beandogI must still have a resume floating around somewhere.
22:49.43dataw0lfI've had two people in the past week email me about Python jobs then when I inquire further they explain it's actually a PHP job >_<
22:49.56dataw0lf"but we might have Python work in the future!" >_<
22:50.41SunSparcUmmm, nice.
22:50.54SunSparcPython != PHP
22:50.57SunSparcSilly people
22:51.01SunSparcheh
22:51.11xtrementlstarts with a P right.. must be the same
22:51.17xtrementlBanana... Bomb.. whatever
22:51.21beandogman
22:51.22SunSparcxtrementl: Good point
22:51.27beandogthere is so much hilariously dumb stuff on youtube.
22:51.34xtrementllol true
22:51.42dataw0lfit's just deceitful, it pisses me off.
22:52.16SunSparcIt would annoy me as well.
22:53.10beandogdataw0lf, really?
22:53.14beandogwow.
22:53.31beandogwas it a recruiter or the actual company?
22:54.18beandogjoshuabud_, you'll get a lot more feedback if you post on the mailing list
22:54.31beandogsince everyone in here is working diligently
22:54.40beandogand never has any time to talk about xbox, star wars, cartoons, hawt girls, or politics.
22:55.08xtrementllol.. come on that's the definition of productivity right there
22:56.00joshuabud_sweet there's a LinkedIn group as well
22:56.44joshuabud_thanks for those links. It's always nice to find local talent.
22:57.07joshuabud_That way I can smack them around when if I hire them and they aren't doing the job fast enough
22:57.09joshuabud_lol
22:57.11joshuabud_;)
22:58.04xtrementlthen $100/hr looks more like $8 :)
22:59.06SunSparcGood reason to make your rates more like $250/hour  :)
23:00.30dataw0lfbeandog: one was an independent consultant who "had seen my Django work at QuinStreet and wanted to work on a small Django project together"
23:00.47beandogdataw0lf, now thats straight up wrong.
23:00.56dataw0lfthen it turned out that wasn't the reason why he contacted me professionally, he needed some help on a PHP app "but there might be Django work down the pipeline"
23:01.27dataw0lfthe other was some HR chick from a company in Oregon
23:21.57SunSparcNight all!
23:38.42mindjujusup utah_dave
23:39.04Utah_Davehey, mindjuju
23:39.22mindjujujust seeing what you were up to
23:39.29mindjujuseems like you've been out of town a bit, huh?

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