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00:21.59carmonygah, datingdna's web server is getting hammered! :(
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02:15.32strick9tearing my eyes out on this obsurd error, has anyone seen this before... let me describe
02:15.53strick9i have a really simply config file that I include at the head of each page
02:16.42strick9i define variables about the application, file paths, db stuff etc. then a simple autoload function
02:17.45strick9inside the autoload my defined constants just don't exist
02:17.52strick9http://pastebin.com/m6fe68fcd
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14:25.21PoeticIntensitymornin'
14:45.15orsonjIndeed. And a good one at that.
14:45.15Lone_WandererMorning.
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14:53.07carmonyman...
14:53.18carmonyit feels like this entire weekend has just been one really bad monday
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15:03.44eggyknapcarmony: I second that.
15:09.16carmonyalso, I *hate* working with Apple
15:11.27Lone_WandererWhy?
15:17.58carmonyunless you have serious ins with Apple, developers get treated like crap
15:18.32carmonywe've fought with Apple for weeks because of their retarded app approval process for the iPhone
15:19.31carmonyIt got delayed several weeks. One week of it was due because the reviewer tried to log into the demo account just once, and mistyped the username, and then sent us reply sayign "Demo Account Not Working"
15:19.39carmonywhich bumped us to the back of the approval line
15:20.03carmonyand then, when they finally get their crap together, when to they release our app?
15:20.08carmonyFriday night
15:20.11carmonyand it got featured
15:20.17carmonywhich means our servers got HAMMERED
15:20.22Lone_Wandererouch
15:20.35carmonyso I spent my whole damn weekend trying to keep up with the demand
15:20.54Lone_WandererWhat's the app?
15:20.58carmonyDating DNA
15:21.04carmonya dating app
15:21.18carmonyit relys heavily on Web Service APIs
15:21.27carmonysince its basically an extension of the dating website
15:21.35Lone_WandererDoes it sequence your DNA for you and then find people with whom you can create healthy children?
15:21.45Lone_WandererBecause that would be awesome.
15:22.35Lone_Wanderer"Sexual congress with the woman two seats away from your current location would produce children who are 23% less likely to get cancer."
15:23.41utahconLone_Wanderer: you're thinking way to advanced
15:23.57Lone_Wanderer"Excuse me... I couldn't help  but notice that your 21st chromosome is particularly well formed.  Shall we mate?"
15:24.09eggyknap.oO("It would also result in herpes and raging crabs infestation, periodic visits from her bodybuilder token boyfriend, and the occasional drunken plea for money from her abandoned teenage daughter")
15:24.34Lone_WandererThere you go, killing the mood.
15:25.14eggyknapIf you're having moods like that, I don't wanna know about it :)
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15:49.35Lone_Wandererhttp://i.gizmodo.com/5188715/the-penis-train-when-children-playgrounds-go-very-wrong - possibly not work safe, but it's got an awesome rendition of Queen on a kazoo or something.
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16:03.40itimbersup guys
16:04.24macnewbold~rlart
16:04.26jbotgrabs a large, mis-shapened log, with squirrels, and beats macnewbold until only the nuts remain ... which the squirrels run off with
16:04.41macnewboldk, that's just wrong
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16:16.22itimberWhy is Iraq taking so long:  http://server225.com/files/WhyIraqIsTakingSoLong1.wmv
16:16.40itimberSFW and my server, don't worry
16:21.01dataw0lfsoup sammiches
16:26.52TimRikerI need to rename jbot in here to one of apt, ibot, infobot, or purl. anyone care which?
16:28.16carmonyibot
16:31.38TimRikerjbot: chanset #uphpu autojoin ibot
16:31.38jbotSetting autojoin for #uphpu to 'ibot'; was 'jbot'.
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16:32.02TimRiker~logs
16:32.03ibotAll conversations are logged to http://ibot.rikers.org/channel, where "channel" is replaced by the URL-encoded channel name, such as %23freenode for #freenode. Lines starting with spaces are not logged.
16:32.08TimRikerthx. cya
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16:33.22carmonyhey ibot, how do you like the new channel? :P
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16:40.57utahconolds: you looking for anything special?
16:41.05oldsnot particularly
16:41.22utahconyou just want to host a wiki site?
16:41.43oldsI'd actually prefer if someone else did
16:42.01oldsI think we found what we're looking for in google sites though
16:42.02utahconAre you looking to admin the site, and not the server is that what you are saying?
16:42.09oldsyea basically
16:42.11utahconso you are looking for a webhost or a wiki host?
16:42.26oldsa wiki host
16:42.45oldspbwiki, google sites, etc
16:42.50oldsjust wondering if anyone had a preference
16:42.51utahconhmm
16:42.58utahconnot for that sort of thing,
16:43.28herloolds: you don't want to set up your own mediawiki?
16:43.39herlowhy not? it's soooo easy
16:46.20carmonymanagement :P
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16:49.03mgeary~yow
16:50.13carmony~lart macnewbold
16:50.13ibotpushes the wall down onto macnewbold whilst whistling innocently
16:50.37mgeary~seen jbot
16:50.39iboti haven't seen 'jbot', mgeary
16:50.59mgearyhey, ibot, what's that behind your back? Oh, a bloody knife?
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17:19.34mgeary~rlart
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17:19.39mgearypsh
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17:31.23utahcon~lart utahcon's teeth
17:31.23ibotmakes a balloon animal out of utahcon's teeth
17:31.30utahconouch
17:31.48Lone_WandererLaw of Unexpected Larting
17:32.24carmony~lart Lone_Wanderer
17:32.24ibotduct-tapes Lone_Wanderer to the floor and drools on him
17:32.31carmonyewww :P
17:33.02Lone_WandererYeah, kind of gross.
17:33.11mgearyutahcon: did you get in to a dentist then?
17:33.24Lone_WandererUnless you're into bondage and ibot is female, in which case - still gross.
17:33.25utahconI did and didn't
17:33.26utahconlol
17:33.42utahconI have an infection in my tooth, so I have to take antibiotics before they can do the real work :(
17:33.48mgearybummer
17:33.51utahconso tomorrow I will be a much happier camper
17:34.06mgearyhere's hoping
17:34.08utahconbut they gave me drugs to "manage the pain"
17:34.16Lone_WandererOxycodon?
17:34.22mgearynah, it'd be Lortab at most
17:34.30mgearyprobably just 800mg ibuprofin
17:34.36mgearyam i right?
17:34.39Lone_WandererYeah, ibuprofen is a popular one.
17:34.44utahconibuprofen 800
17:34.47Lone_WandererThat's what they gave us in basic for everything.
17:34.50utahconand it is not managing the pain :(
17:35.01mgearyutahcon: have you tried a heat pack?
17:35.06mgearythat can help
17:35.12utahconI did notice warm is better.
17:35.18mgearyyeah
17:35.22mgearywhich is funny
17:35.25Lone_Wanderer"Oh, your leg's broken, you've got a staph infection in your armpit and there's a fire ant colony in your chest?  Drink water, take ibuprofen."
17:35.34mgearyyou'd think it'd aggravate, but heat works for my bad tooth issues as well
17:35.53utahconwhich sucks cause well... Mt Dew warm is not good.
17:36.10mgearywell, Mt. Dew is probably the reason for your tooth problem in the first place
17:36.31mgearyhey for a wildcard *.domain.com, is it better to do a CNAME back to @, or an A record directly?
17:38.32fungusI personally use CNAMEs for wildcard DNS records.
17:39.18fungusbut it's not really that big of a deal.
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17:40.03beandogherlo, ping
17:40.48herlobeandog: pong
17:40.58beandogherlo, youve got a small planet bug
17:41.07mgearywell, apparently godaddy doesn't let you do a * for a CNAME
17:41.10herloimagine that
17:41.14herlobeandog: what's that?
17:41.22beandogmgeary, everydns ftw!
17:42.30beandogherlo, http://planet.utos.org/lugs/
17:42.43beandogit's feeds have / links
17:43.00herlooh, thought I fixed that before
17:43.00beandogso it's pulling up http://planet.utos.org/rss20.xml instead of lugs/rss20.xml
17:43.11herloyeah, I can fix that quickly, hang on
17:44.09herlobeandog: that's odd, both are using the same templates, and it's supposed to modify the link in the template.
17:44.27beandogherlo, yah the template probably has /rss20.xml in it
17:44.32beandogjust change it to drop the /
17:44.53beandogherlo, you also have tod elete the cached template as well
17:45.01beandogsilly stupid little planet gotchas--
17:45.11herlobeandog: I know that
17:45.15herloin both cases
17:45.24beandogherlo, hmm
17:45.33beandogherlo, mind if I take a look at it?
17:45.35herlobeandog:
17:45.38herlo<PROTECTED>
17:45.38herlo<PROTECTED>
17:45.38herlo<PROTECTED>
17:45.38herlo<PROTECTED>
17:45.38herlo<PROTECTED>
17:45.40herlo<PROTECTED>
17:45.43beandogOdd.
17:45.46herloyeah
17:45.52herlohang on, looking closer
17:47.16herlobeandog: the urls resolve correctly for me
17:47.31macnewbold~jbot
17:47.32ibotsomebody said jbot was a hack!, or known to have only said one useful thing. a tool, or dating the fembots, or  [TK]D-Fender's b*tch, or suck, or a pain in the ass
17:47.32beandoghttp://planet.utos.org/lugs/
17:47.36beandogherlo, look at the source
17:47.38macnewbold~ibot
17:47.39ibotIt's me
17:47.40herlobeandog: I'm on that page
17:47.41beandog<PROTECTED>
17:47.45macnewbold~infobot
17:47.46ibotextra, extra, read all about it, infobot is [infobot], or infobot, or likes abuse
17:48.04herlobeandog: you are looking at the top maybe?
17:48.18herlobeandog: I wasn't looking there
17:48.27beandogherlo, I guess
17:48.36beandogherlo, oh, sorry
17:48.44beandogherlo, Im talking about autodiscovery, not the web links
17:49.10herloI see, didn't realize
17:49.15beandogsorry bout that. :)
17:49.19herlofixed, will upload shortly
17:49.28beandogherlo, when you gonna let me take you out to lunch
17:50.20herlobeandog: well, I'm in SoCal today, maybe Thursday or something
17:50.26beandogherlo, alrightie
17:51.00beandogherlo, btw, where did you get the nice theme?
17:52.46beandoganyone else wanna go to lunch
17:53.16utahcon4 yr old went to see Dinosaur bones today :D
17:53.24beandogthat's awesome
17:53.30beandogwhere at, the museum?
17:53.56utahconyeah
17:53.59utahconI hope
17:54.03herlobeandog: fedora planet
17:56.17beandogahh, I like
18:01.32herlo:)
18:01.37herlofree software ftw!
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19:25.39utahconme: did you see dinosaurs? 4yrOld: nope, bones! me: how many? 4yrOld:4... or 5.
19:25.39SunSparcHe was probably concentrating on the thigh bones.
19:25.40utahconLOL - Apparently she fell off the seat on the school bus too...
19:25.40SunSparcibot: Change your name back to jbot.
19:25.41utahconwant: http://www.officepod.co.uk/
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19:27.53SunSparcutahcon: And the employees are causing problems, just close the door and turn on the gas.
19:27.54SunSparcif
19:28.02utahconlol
19:28.09utahconpersonally it is a little small for my taste
19:28.17utahconbut the idea is cool
19:29.10utahconI have always wanted to take a TuffShed and outfit it for the awesome studio it could be
19:30.57SunSparcAh, this is for home.  I thought it was in place of cubicles.
19:31.01SunSparcThat is pretty cool.
19:31.13SunSparcOffice in the backyard.  Nice.
19:31.46utahconYeah.
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19:32.45SunSparcutahcon: If only it was a little bigger.
19:33.27SunSparcI need multiple screens and that desk does not look like I have much room to rest my arms.
19:35.13utahconAgreed.
19:35.22utahconalso need space for the server rack...
19:39.12supernoviableh.  I'm still looking at project management programs
19:39.16supernoviaand they're all so darn hairy
19:41.55utahconsupernovia: what have you looked at?
19:46.05supernoviawell, I"m trying to go with open source
19:46.41supernoviaI've tried a wordpress project plugin and phpproject, and dotProject..
19:46.59supernoviaand looked at demos and things of other systems :-/
19:47.59utahconhmm
19:48.04utahconsize of the project?
19:48.29herlo3
19:48.34supernoviawell, it's for an ongoing project that'll be going for quite a while
19:48.45herlo4?
19:49.07utahconok
19:49.09herlookay, 5!
19:49.16utahconany special features you must have?
19:49.17supernovia^5 herlo
19:49.29herlofine, 6! but it's my final offer
19:49.37DexterTheDragonutahcon: like so http://lifehacker.com/397216/backyard-shed-turned-home-office
19:49.41herlosupernovia: :)
19:49.46utahconDexterTheDragon: yeah
19:49.59supernoviaI am thinking as long as I'm using it to manage the ongoing project I may as well manage the smaller projects with it too...
19:50.12utahconright
19:50.15supernoviabut essentially, time tracking and the ability for clients to add new projects and see my status
19:50.22supernoviathat's the main stuff
19:50.51utahconI haven't ever been super happy with any of the project management projects I have found...
19:50.54utahconbut...
19:51.23unumis trac to limited for project management
19:51.26unumor bugzilla
19:51.33fungusDexterTheDragon: that idea is awesome, except for the fact we live in Utah.
19:51.51fungustemperature control is difficult, too hot in summer, too cold in winter
19:52.00utahconfungus: insulate
19:52.13oldsDexterTheDragon: my dad has something similar at his house
19:52.14DexterTheDragonlittle space heater would do just fine
19:52.21oldsit's pretty sweet
19:52.32fungusI'm a wuss, I couldn't handle it.
19:52.34oldsit's a toughshed with a skylight
19:52.58supernoviaguess it'd be as nice as a cubicle..
19:56.35utahconinsulation, a space heater, and a small AC unit, and the work house is a great idea.
19:56.44utahconwhen I purchase a house/land I will do it for sure.
19:58.17supernoviautahcon - you'd said 'but' earlier - did you have anything you really liked that is OS?
19:58.34supernoviaI might have to go out and buy something but I like supporting OS
19:59.03utahconnope
19:59.22supernoviawhat's your favorite then that's not OS?
19:59.33supernoviahonestly I've been happy enough with spreadsheets in google till now
20:00.59SunSparcsupernovia: Are you working with coding projects?  Or just projects in general?
20:02.31supernoviasorry (eating cheesecake)
20:02.46unummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm cheesecake
20:02.47supernoviaProjects in general. I do lots of random stuff.
20:03.34utahconI hate dotProject, but I haven't written anything better yet.
20:03.55utahconI used SugarCRM with some plugin a while back, and that was good, but a bitch to setup again when I broke it.
20:04.09supernoviasupernovio brought cheesecake to go with the flowers...
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20:06.04utahconmake up your mind
20:06.20Lone_WandererOkay, that was annoying.
20:06.27supernoviasynic?
20:07.20SunSparcLone_Wanderer: Or a good wireless router.
20:07.24supernoviame utahcon?
20:07.47SunSparcutahcon: He was pestering Lone_Wanderer for logging out and then back in. :)
20:07.48Lone_WandererThat might help too.
20:07.58Lone_WandererHow many times did I do it?
20:08.03supernoviaah, weird, guess my new pidgin install isn't showing logins and log outs
20:09.43supernoviaam I seeing the same thing you are? :-/
20:10.11mindjuju~apb herlo
20:10.12ibotACTION hires Dog the Bounty Hunter to spray mace at herlo
20:10.32herlomindjuju: poing
20:10.44herlos/oi/o/
20:12.02synicsupernovia: yo
20:15.25supernoviaoh hey synic
20:15.32synicoh hai
20:17.06synicdid you summon me for something?!?!  The suspense is killing me!
20:17.15supernoviaSeriously, the suspense is killing me too.
20:17.29supernoviaSunSparc supernovia synic
20:17.30synicyou so crazy
20:17.36supernoviaGot that message a minute ago..
20:17.44*** join/#uphpu fungus (n=olsonl@bromine.sosstaffing.com)
20:17.44*** mode/#UPHPU [+o fungus] by ChanServ
20:18.21supernoviaand I thought SunSparc was suggesting a project management system only I googled synic and only found wireless stuff.  I didn't realize you were a person here :)  Nice to meet you
20:18.45synicoh, heh.  Nice to meet you too :)
20:18.49supernoviahehe
20:18.51SunSparc:)
20:34.42mindjujui wish i could take off my nose to release the sinus pressure
20:34.57SunSparcThat could be handy.
20:35.18SunSparcUnscrew the nose and let it drain, then put it back on...
20:35.23SunSparcKinda gross...
20:35.25mindjujutotally
20:36.18synicI've never had a sinus headache
20:36.46synicmy sinusesens are vast, and can fit large amounts of ... whatever, I guess
20:37.03mindjujuwhich means ear hurts and i'm going around in right circles
20:38.23synicthis is for you, then: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJv5qLsLYoo
20:38.44mindjujuthat's awesome synic
20:43.28mindjujusynic + supernovia - check this out -->  http://indy-dont-play-that.ytmnd.com/
20:43.36mindjujulove that one
20:46.56supernoviagoodness. sorry, had another visitor
20:47.15supernoviathis one brought chocolate. So much for raw foods today
20:47.30supernoviaWow, this is intense mindjuju
20:48.06supernoviaof course since I have absolutely zero movie knowledge I have no idea what this is from
20:48.25mindjujuindiana jones and the temple of doom?
20:48.30mindjujuhaven't seen??
20:48.32beandogmovie movies movies movies
20:48.53supernoviaOk, so growing up I think I -went- to two movies, ever
20:49.11supernoviaand then when they'd rent a VCR, I was usually behind on the dishes or something and missed most of the movies anyway
20:49.27mindjujusadly!
20:49.30supernoviaI am seriously movie deprived.
20:49.45beandogyou've come to the right place, supernovia
20:50.04supernovia(well, growing up as in before I was 16 or so & old enough to just go out with my friends. but this movie was before that time)
20:50.19PoeticIntensitybeandog can sympathize with you..  Apart from not seeing many movies, he hates em', too!
20:50.27supernoviado you really beandog?
20:50.32supernoviaI don't -hate- them
20:50.32PoeticIntensityoh yes....
20:50.35beandogwhot?
20:50.35PoeticIntensityhates them with a passion.
20:50.37beandogwhot!
20:50.41PoeticIntensityunequalled.
20:50.44mindjuju" but this movie was before that time" == mj is an old guy
20:50.47supernoviaand now I've got that big fat theater system downstairs
20:50.50PoeticIntensitynever even think about movies when hanging out with beandog.
20:50.51mindjujulike social security collectin' old
20:50.57beandogPoeticIntensity, heh
20:50.57supernoviaWell, it was before I was 16 for sure :)
20:51.12PoeticIntensity:) nothin' but love, bro.
20:51.17supernoviayou're not much older than me though :)
20:51.31beandogPoeticIntensity, jekr
20:51.35mindjujumj == 35
20:51.52beandogI think Ive seen between 1500 and 2500 movies
20:51.53supernoviasee you've only got a little better than 4 years on me. I'll be 31 this year.
20:52.10mindjujui think i'm older than mgeary
20:52.17mindjujubut not older than thebigdog, if i recall
20:52.23mgearyheh
20:52.28supernoviahehe
20:52.36beandogmindjuju = t3h young un
20:52.37thebigdogmindjuju, you are older than me
20:52.55thebigdogmgeary, is older than me too
20:52.58mindjujubeandog, i'm older than you, aren't i?
20:53.05beandogmindjuju, by two years
20:53.08utahconat one time I owned more than 500 dvds...
20:53.10mindjujuyeah
20:53.25supernoviaI think I almost own more wii games than dvds.  Almost.
20:53.28thebigdogi might be getting rid of a bunch of dvds
20:53.32supernoviaAnd that's including a plethora of workout videos.
20:53.46beandogsupernovia, ooh I just got a Wii this weekend
20:53.46mindjujujust think, in 4 years, you can throw me an "over the hill" party
20:53.54utahconI realized the other day exactly how many games I had for my Xbox360... I didn't think I owned that many.
20:53.55beandogmindjuju, why wait?
20:54.06supernoviahehe
20:54.08mindjujubeandog, no doubt
20:54.13utahconmindjuju: we can have an "over the hill" party every day !
20:54.14beandoglets have a mindjuju party
20:54.20beandogwe'll invite youtube
20:54.22supernoviaI'd second that
20:54.22mindjujumy wife asked me if i wanted to go see Depeche Mode concert
20:54.28supernoviaooo
20:54.35mindjujui said, no caused it reminded me of those people goign to see the Platters in concertn
20:54.45mindjujui don't want to be going with my walker, to go see DM
20:54.51utahconDepeche Mode still tours?
20:54.51mindjujuthat'd just depress me
20:54.58mindjujuyeah, see
20:55.02beandogtheyre not that old
20:55.03beandogare they?
20:55.26mindjujuafter 30, you can't go to concerts
20:55.36mindjujuwithout it having the "platters" affect
20:55.39beandogor wear shorts.
20:55.44supernoviahey now
20:56.02mindjuju?
20:56.12utahconfirst album in... 1981
20:56.18supernoviamy little bro thought the girl in shorts across the street was pretty nice looking till he realized she was 70
20:56.29beandoglol
20:56.30dataw0lfO_O
20:56.31mindjujuwow
20:56.33supernoviaso obviously some people can get away with them
20:56.35beandogthen  he thought she was hawt?
20:56.41supernoviaYeah.
20:56.44dataw0lf...
20:56.53dataw0lfhow old is your brother?
20:56.59supernoviaShe walks around the block Every Day to keep those legs lookin good.
20:57.09supernoviaHe's 2 years younger than I am but I think at that time he was 25
20:57.16dataw0lfhaha
20:57.18dataw0lfwhew
20:57.25utahconI have seen some really good looking older women... from across the room.
20:57.46utahconscrubs term: HFFA -- Hot from far away
20:58.03supernoviaah :)
20:58.06mindjujutoo funny
20:58.16utahconTCW is a good one too
20:58.22supernoviaTCW?
20:58.26utahconTasty Coma Wife
20:58.30supernoviad'oh
20:58.33mindjuju?
20:58.39beandogtasty coma wife??
20:58.50utahconYou don't watch enough scrubs
20:59.00supernovialike, hot because SHE is in a coma?
20:59.06utahconAn episode where JD falls for the young wife of a dude in a comma.
20:59.09utahconcoma
20:59.09beandoggirlfriend in a coma, la la la la la
20:59.16supernoviaI know, I know.
20:59.21supernoviait's seeerious..
20:59.32supernoviad'oh
20:59.43mindjujui'd prolly go insane
21:00.00supernoviasee the key is to not watch TV, mindjuju.
21:00.05supernoviaOr only watch spongebob with the kids.
21:00.07mindjujuit's less than 10 years away, I saw a commercial for Love songs of the 70's the other day
21:00.13mindjujui knew like 90% of them
21:00.21beandogloooooooooove songs, baby.
21:00.27beandog70s had some good songs.
21:00.27supernoviathen all the commercials make you feel like a kid again.. "Ooo, I want some Floam!"
21:00.33mindjujulike knew as in listened to them on the radio when they was new
21:01.21supernoviayeah it'll be a fun day.
21:01.48mindjujuheh
21:01.49utahconAnne Murray was never "cool"
21:01.56utahconKenny Rogers is still cool
21:02.33mindjujui also remember the day that REAL hard rock came to houston, it was on AM and i think it was KKZR
21:02.47mindjujuremember when GnR came out with first album
21:03.17mindjujuutahcon, that's a good 'un
21:03.22supernoviak, so I listened to wilson phillips alot when I first got into non-motab non-classical non-jazz "pop" music
21:03.51mindjujuwilson-phillips?  they sang 1 song i liked, but the rest not so much
21:03.56mindjujumy sis liked them
21:04.40mgearymindjuju: i'm 38
21:04.50supernoviaoo, I think mgeary wins
21:04.54mindjujuheh
21:04.58dataw0lfOld.
21:05.02grandpa_mgyup
21:05.05supernoviak so seriously, my 40 year old brother's son is getting MARRIED
21:05.14grandpa_mgheh, my oldest is 8
21:05.19dataw0lfgood call
21:05.23mindjujumy oldest is 6
21:05.23grandpa_mgthebigdog will be a grandpa before me
21:05.32supernoviahehe
21:05.37utahconmy 4 yr old informed me today she is in love with burke!
21:05.48mindjujuwho is burke?
21:06.10utahconburke is a boy at her school... I think.
21:06.19mindjujuah
21:06.47supernoviamy daughter already knows she wants to grow up and marry her friend Adam and live in the white house with him.
21:07.04supernoviamy son on the other hand says he's too young for all that junk. Good kid.
21:07.14grandpa_mgmy daughter was heartbroken last year when she learned she can't marry her brother
21:07.15mindjujuso dataw0lf, noticed your middle name on facebook was Hussein, was that because of Barrack?
21:07.29supernoviathat's a hard lesson to learn, grandpa_mg.
21:07.36grandpa_mgindeed
21:07.44utahconlast night at the grandparents house my nephew and daughter were holding hands... technically they could marry as I am not her real daddy.
21:07.46mindjujuugh, i mean Barack
21:08.44supernoviaalrights, I gots to concentrate on stuff.  I really do need a project management system :S
21:09.00mindjujuutahcon - that's hilarious
21:09.16utahconhey supernovia
21:09.33utahconjust wanted to break your concentration :) did it work?
21:11.09utahconno more "orders"
21:12.52brastofungus: there's a question you might have an answer to on the plug mail list, if you've also used dirvish?
21:12.55brastodoh
21:13.05brastos/dirvish?/dirvish./
21:13.29grandpa_mgdervish?
21:13.35grandpa_mgas in "whirling" ?
21:13.43brastoI pasted the 'dirvish?', but forgot the '?' was in on the clipboard with the 'dirvish'.
21:13.50supernoviayou know this pidgin thing isn't notifying me. Odd
21:13.52brasto~dervish
21:14.00grandpa_mg~pester supernovia
21:14.01ibotsupernovia: Are we there yet? .. Are we there yet? .. Are we there yet?  see http://beverlys.net/LJ/BuggingYou.swf
21:14.05brastosupernovia: you can turn on notifications
21:15.36utahconsupernovia: you should report your findings as a post for uphpu.org :D
21:15.42supernoviathat was lovely ibot :-p
21:15.51supernoviaseriously I might
21:15.58DexterTheDragonor a presentation
21:15.59utahconno really... you should
21:16.23utahconmaybe installing and using :D
21:16.35brastosupernovia, to understand recursion, one must first understand recursion.
21:16.44supernovialol
21:17.18brastoto configure notification, go to tools/plugins and enable notifications, then click the configure button, supernovia
21:18.53brasto~dervish is a backup script: http://www.dirvish.org/ .
21:18.54ibotokay, brasto
21:19.04brasto~dervish
21:19.05ibotsomebody said dervish was a backup script: http://www.dirvish.org/ .
21:19.11supernoviathanks brasto )
21:19.13supernovia:)
21:19.32utahcondanny elfman has an interesting voice
21:19.40orsonjwhy are you thanking him, you are supposed to turn them off, not on.
21:19.41brastomgeary: now you know what dervish is
21:19.56brastoturn notifications off?
21:20.05orsonjmost definently, notification off
21:20.07brastothen I would never notice when I get a ping...
21:20.19orsonjright
21:20.19brastoand I wouldn't waste any time on IRC...
21:20.25brastowait a minute...
21:20.27utahconIRC is not a waste
21:20.31brastolol
21:20.34utahconor... maybe it is
21:20.37utahconI can never remember
21:20.47brasto~recursion
21:20.48ibotTo understand recursion, you must first understand recursion.
21:20.49supernoviadepends on the day ;)
21:21.19supernoviait really should be on my not to do list today though, which makes it all the more tempting.
21:21.48utahconyep, it was easy
21:22.21brasto~derail supernovia
21:23.09supernoviaI totally should have been a hovercraft.
21:23.18supernoviaor a UFO maybe.
21:23.26brasto~derail $1 is <action> throws $1 off the tracks and applies a break in one spot so $1 goes in circles.
21:23.27ibotbrasto: okay
21:23.34brasto~derail supernovia
21:23.35ibotACTION throws supernovia off the tracks and applies a break in one spot so supernovia goes in circles.
21:23.50utahconlook at brasto with all the defines today
21:24.11supernoviaindeed
21:24.15brastosweet, I've defined 2 factoids today!
21:24.26brastowps, I haven't seen you on here lately.
21:24.36supernoviad'oh.
21:24.41SunSparc~stats
21:24.41ibotSince Mon Mar 30 16:36:13 2009, there have been 9 modifications, 93 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 69 commands.  I have been awake for 4h 48m 28s this session, and currently reference 116002 factoids.  I'm using about 19444 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 1402.02/68.57 child 0.08/0.07
21:24.45supernoviaI gots company, again.  I'm logging out
21:24.49utahconanyone want to rent me a 3+bdrm place with fiber for... um... $500-$800/month with no deposit?
21:25.11utahconsupernovia is a quitter
21:25.14SunSparcutahcon: tempting
21:25.26SunSparcutahcon: Oh, wait, I don't have fiber.
21:25.36supernoviaif you find one let me know utahcon
21:25.36utahconok I will take it w/o fiber
21:25.53SunSparcutahcon: heh
21:26.13utahconmother in law and wife are fighting... again... need to get the family to a less hostile place...
21:26.29utahconand of course as with most things in life, it came at a time that is inconvenient for the cash flow.
21:26.29SunSparc:(  Lame
21:27.10SunSparcIs MIL living with you?  So, her mother?
21:28.51mgearymore likely, they're living with his MIL
21:29.13brastocool, so I probably defined factoids 116001 and 116002 if <actions>'s count as factoids.
21:32.08utahconwe are living with MIL
21:32.13utahconmy MIL her mother.
21:32.20utahconmy wife and my mother love each other
21:32.51brastoI prefer to say it the other way around
21:32.56brastoMy mother lives with me
21:33.02brastoit sounds a bit better that way
21:34.06brastoSunSparc: what are 'dunnos'?
21:36.25SunSparcbrasto: dunno
21:36.27SunSparc;)
21:36.48SunSparcPerhaps queries that ibot did not know the answer to.
21:37.04SunSparcIt is zero, that makes sense, since ibot knows all...
21:37.24brastobut if I do this:
21:37.31brasto~random134134oe09u09e4
21:37.40brastoibot doesn't know
21:37.41ibothmm... doesn't know is not at all
21:37.46brasto:)
21:38.13SunSparc:)
21:38.20brastowhy is jbot ibot now?
21:38.26brasto~dunno
21:38.27ibotit has been said that dunno is #1/usr/bin/girl
21:38.35brasto~stats
21:38.35ibotSince Mon Mar 30 16:36:13 2009, there have been 16 modifications, 119 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 77 commands.  I have been awake for 5h 2m 22s this session, and currently reference 116005 factoids.  I'm using about 19444 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 1450.73/83.6 child 0.08/0.07
21:38.43SunSparc~dunno brasto
21:38.48DexterTheDragonshouldn't that be #!
21:39.13SunSparcjbot, do you answer to jbot?
21:39.22brastoDexterTheDragon: probably... that's funny, and what ibot said doesn't make sense
21:39.25SunSparcibot, what do you know?
21:39.29brastojbot eat me
21:39.35brastoibot eat me
21:39.36ibotACTION eats brasto and falls over dead
21:39.50SunSparclol
21:40.05brastoibot eat SunSparc
21:40.06ibotACTION slurps up all the SunSparc available
21:40.14Lone_WandererDid I just leave and come back again?
21:40.18SunSparclol
21:40.21SunSparcLone_Wanderer: No
21:40.24Lone_WandererOk.
21:40.59brastoLone_Wanderer: if you just started using pidgin, you might not know you can turn on notifications... was it you that started using it for irc the other day?
21:42.40utahconLone_Wanderer: persist?
21:42.45utahconisn't it great!
21:43.02utahconwhat is really nice is if you have persist on, and close the channel, and get pinged... it will notify you!
21:44.46macnewboldutahcon: where can you turn on persist?
21:45.01macnewboldI've never seen it in pidgin. it is only in newer versions? I haven't updated for a while.
21:45.05utahconyou know I think you have to do it when you add the channel
21:45.17utahconoh nope
21:45.22utahconyou can do it in the buddy list now
21:45.28utahconjust right-click
21:45.34utahconnot sure when it was added... but it was :D
21:45.45utahcon(in a Jim Gaffigan voice) love it love it love it
21:48.18SunSparcDid I eat that?  Or rub it on my face?
21:49.57brastook, so SunSparc, dunno's used to be a fixed response ibot would give when it didn't have an answer programed
21:50.13brastoand morons were counted when someone did a really long command
21:50.17brasto~stats
21:50.17ibotSince Mon Mar 30 16:36:13 2009, there have been 19 modifications, 152 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 87 commands.  I have been awake for 5h 14m 4s this session, and currently reference 0 factoids.  I'm using about 19708 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 1501.05/101.3 child 0.08/0.07
21:50.39brasto~a;dsjfkj;flad fkjsad;lfj  kldsaf;lj ;dsjf ;lsdkjf jfkdjfkd;a;a   fjl;dskjf ;lkjf k; ; ;lkj;lj    ;lkjds;ladfsadfasd  fa dfsad  fd  dsa f ds asd fasd sa fa sdf asd fds fa sd fadsf asd f asdf f sad fdad ad fd fda
21:50.51brastolike that one
21:51.09SunSparc~stats
21:51.09ibotSince Mon Mar 30 16:36:13 2009, there have been 19 modifications, 152 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 87 commands.  I have been awake for 5h 14m 56s this session, and currently reference 0 factoids.  I'm using about 19708 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 1502.74/101.58 child 0.08/0.07
21:51.17SunSparcHmmm
21:51.46brasto~dumb bot
21:51.46ibotstupid human
21:51.52SunSparcheh
21:52.04SunSparc~stupid bot
21:52.05ibotStupid human.
21:52.10SunSparcheh
21:52.12brasto:)
21:52.23Lone_Wandererbrasto: that was me yes.  How do I turn on notifications?
21:53.00utahconStep 1) turn on notifications
21:53.01utahcon:d
21:53.03brastoibot, kick ibot
21:53.27brastoibot: kick yourself
21:53.34brasto!
21:53.45brastoLone_Wanderer: tools/plugins
21:53.49brastocheck notifications
21:53.53brastoclick configure
21:53.55SunSparc~kick ibot
21:53.56brastothen configure
21:54.05brasto~wake ibot
21:55.56Lone_Wandererahh, cool
21:55.59SunSparc~lart ibot
21:55.59iboturinates on sunsparc
21:56.05SunSparcROFL
21:56.16Lone_Wandererokay give me three seconds or so and then say my name, see if this works
21:56.26utahconone one thousand
21:56.29utahcontwo one thousand
21:56.30SunSparcibot, that was very uncouth
21:56.34utahconthree one thousand
21:56.37utahconLone_Wanderer: test
21:56.38SunSparcLone_Wanderer!!!!
21:56.49Lone_WandererYeah, not so much.
21:57.03Lone_WandererMaybe I need to check different boxes.
21:57.38Lone_WandererOkay, maybe now.
21:58.09utahconone
21:58.10utahcontwo
21:58.11utahconthree
21:58.13utahconLone_Wanderer:
21:58.14SunSparcLone_Wanderer
21:58.22Lone_WandererYay, it worked!
21:59.45SunSparcOh, really...
21:59.55Lone_WandererYep.
22:00.04Lone_WandererExcept friendly ones.
22:00.15Lone_WandererSo you can still healadin for me if you're horde.
22:01.26utahconwell kids... I have to get outta here... going to go home... and then go look for a home.
22:01.29utahconfun...
22:01.32Lone_WandererI remember one time, I was in the burning steppes
22:01.43Lone_Wandererwaiting to get my demon head for the epic hunter bow quest
22:01.49Lone_Wanderer(Because I'm an Epic Hunter)
22:02.16SunSparc:)
22:02.19Lone_WandererThere was a rogue there, level 60, who was like a Knight-Champion or something, I don't remember, all decked out in full pvp gear
22:02.21brasto~uphpu
22:02.22iboti guess uphpu is Utah PHP Users Group | uphpu.org  Blootbot's favorite channel.
22:02.22dataw0lfnah, against a paladin, as a rogue, you CS + dismantle + thistle tea + backstab + sinister strike + (wait) + kidney shot
22:02.29mgeary~weary WOWtalk
22:02.41brasto~watch tv
22:02.42Lone_Wandererand I didn't want her interfering with the fight, so I ganked her
22:02.51brasto~gank
22:02.55brasto~ganked
22:03.01Lone_Wandererdied to the demon, rezzed, dropped a trap to eat/drink ('cause I knew she'd be waiting around)
22:03.02brasto'fraid that's not a word, Lone_Wanderer
22:03.17Lone_Wandererand killed her again with less than half life :D
22:03.19brasto'cuz ibot don't know it, it can't be a word.
22:03.30Lone_WandererThat was one of my prouder moments.
22:03.39dataw0lfwhat realm are you on again?
22:03.43Lone_WandererDeathwing
22:03.46dataw0lfdurn
22:03.46SunSparcLone_Wanderer: heh
22:04.01Lone_WandererEspecially because I was in.... well, I don't remember, but not exactly epic gear.
22:04.05Lone_WandererDM blues, etc.
22:04.25Lone_Wandererand she could NOT kill me
22:04.33SunSparcShe was probably torqued about that.
22:04.42dataw0lfwell then she was a crappy rogue, what'd you do, mark her immediately?
22:04.42brastoibot, hug Lone_Wanderer for figuring out notifications
22:04.57brastoibot, hug someone
22:05.00Lone_WandererThe first time, yes
22:05.03dataw0lfagainst a hunter you have to be uber patient
22:05.05brasto~dumb bot
22:05.06ibotstupid human
22:05.06Lone_Wanderer'cause I got the drop on her
22:05.17dataw0lfbut you blind their pet and dismantle them and they're done
22:05.20Lone_Wandererbut the second and subsequent times, no.  I had just rezzed the second time
22:05.25brasto~wizardfire brasto's son Hiram
22:05.33brasto~wizardfire someone
22:05.36Lone_Wandererand was barely even alive - dumb rogue walked right into my freeze trap
22:05.43dataw0lf>_<
22:05.46brasto~wizardfire
22:05.47Lone_Wandererafter that it was no contest
22:05.50thebigdogLone_Wanderer, hunters are nerfed
22:05.57Lone_WandererTrinket, warstomp, kite.
22:05.59brasto~brastotack Hiram
22:06.11Lone_WandererYeah I know, they got nerfed big time.  This was back pre-BC though.
22:06.17brasto~factoid brastotack
22:06.22dataw0lfaw I woulda killed you just for being Tauren
22:06.35Lone_WandererWay, way back when you could set your pet on a squishie, hit BW, and laugh
22:07.23synicya, well, tomorrow by this time I'll be piloting an amarr interceptor
22:07.27synicprobably the crusader
22:07.32Lone_Wanderer(I still give credit to my insane PvP skills at the time, though.)
22:07.35Lone_WandererPfsh.  Amarr.
22:07.37dataw0lfhey you gonna gimme your character or what, synic
22:07.44dataw0lfstupid EO player.
22:07.45Lone_WandererBrutor all the way.
22:07.59Lone_WandererI actually hate EO and refuse to play it any more.
22:08.24synicdataw0lf: I have such trouble giving away something I spent a month making
22:08.40dataw0lfwell I'll give you 20 or 30 bucks
22:08.52synicit's not about what I'll get in return
22:08.58synicit's that I might play it again sometime
22:09.02dataw0lfoh, word
22:09.10dataw0lfI thought you were done with it
22:09.46synicwell, it's not that I don't like wow, it's just that it feels so much less awesome compared to eve
22:10.00synicbut if I get kicked out of goonfleet, it'll probably start sucking
22:10.11Lone_WandererYeah, if you don't have a kickass fleet, is really sucks.
22:10.24dataw0lfwell goonfleet is pretty much the strongest
22:10.29dataw0lffrom what I hear anyway
22:10.37synicaye
22:10.50dataw0lfI played for like two hours and got bored.
22:11.06dataw0lf"this type of grinding would be totally cool in real life, because I'd actually be in space. But, uh, as a game..."
22:11.10synicheh, yeah, it's a different kind of game
22:11.20synicthere's no actual point to griding in eve
22:11.23synicit's ALL about pvp
22:11.27synicer.. grinding
22:11.41Lone_WandererI've probably been kicked out of my corp by now
22:11.47Lone_Wandererand I was docked at a corp-owned base
22:12.00Lone_Wandererso if I log back in I'll probably be undocked and get blown up
22:12.04brasto~wizard
22:12.04ibotfrom memory, wizard is enchancement to howto's
22:12.12Lone_Wandererin my.... whatever it was, I don't know, but certainly t2
22:14.40Lone_WandererWe must be in the future.  1. Internet on planes 2. Nanotech in shirts 3. Robots with biological brains, and 4. My screen resolution is so high I can't be sure if I'm looking at jpg noise or dust on my monitor
22:16.35brasto~brastotack $1 is <action> lectures $1 on properly designed databases, normalization, writing quality code with comments, and active-voice writing until jsmith and mgeary can't take anymore and goes berserk.
22:16.35ibot...but cmd: brastotack (.*?) is already something else...
22:16.53brasto~brastotack someone
22:16.58brastohuh?
22:19.54orsonjI'm taking an introductory database class. (Access 2007)
22:20.40orsonjHopefully I can test out, but I'm not sure I know enough about Access itself to skip it.
22:20.48mgearyAccess??!!
22:20.55brasto~access
22:20.58SunSparc~Access--
22:21.00orsonjyep
22:21.07mgeary~karma Access
22:21.07ibotaccess has karma of -1
22:21.11brasto~access--
22:21.16mgeary~Access--
22:21.29brasto~karma access
22:21.29ibotaccess has karma of -3
22:21.32brastosweet
22:21.34SunSparc~Access--
22:21.43SunSparcAnd while we are at it...
22:21.46SunSparc~IE--
22:21.52orsonj~Access--
22:21.58SunSparc~karma IE
22:21.58ibotie has karma of -11
22:22.06SunSparcStill not low enough
22:22.07brastoi don't know if it lets the same user -- something multiple times... oh, i guess so
22:22.13itimberare we reloading the bot?
22:22.17brasto~ie--
22:22.21itimber~itimber++
22:22.25SunSparc~IE--
22:22.31itimber~itimber++
22:22.32brasto~karma ie
22:22.32ibotie has karma of -13
22:22.43brasto~karma access
22:22.43ibotaccess has karma of -5
22:22.48itimber~karma itimber
22:22.48ibotitimber has karma of 2
22:22.52itimbersheesh
22:22.55SunSparcI think karma only keeps the last user.
22:23.00brasto~itimber++
22:23.14brasto~karma itimber
22:23.14ibotitimber has karma of 3
22:23.22brastoitimber: up your own karma now
22:23.22itimberI think my votes are only have a 3/5ths value
22:23.27itimber~itimber++
22:23.37itimber~karma itimber
22:23.37ibotitimber has karma of 3
22:23.41brastohuh?
22:23.56brastomy vote must not have counted either
22:23.56itimberya... it doesn't like me incrementing my own karma
22:24.12brasto~itimber++
22:24.18itimberno... yours bumped me from 2 - 3
22:24.21beandog~karma whore
22:24.21ibotwhore has neutral karma
22:24.23itimber~karma itimber
22:24.24ibotitimber has karma of 4
22:24.28itimbersee
22:24.32brastointeresting
22:24.43*** join/#uphpu death2IE (i=ad085bb1@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-b3c611d0ac04b4bc)
22:24.52death2IE~IE--
22:25.03SunSparc~IE--
22:25.12brastogee, i wonder who death2IE is...
22:25.23death2IElol
22:25.26death2IE~IE--
22:25.33itimber~brasto++
22:25.50SunSparc~IE--
22:25.52itimber~brasto++
22:25.59itimberand ups you two karmas
22:26.02SunSparc~karma IE
22:26.02ibotie has karma of -17
22:26.09SunSparcBetter, for now.
22:27.01orsonj~karma firefox
22:27.01ibotfirefox has karma of 2
22:27.06orsonj~firefox++
22:27.31orsonj~webkit++
22:28.22mgeary~karma mgeary
22:28.22ibotmgeary has karma of 16
22:28.29mgeary~karma thebigdog
22:28.29ibotthebigdog has karma of 11
22:28.34mgearydude, you're slipping
22:29.04thebigdogi dont mind
22:29.25mgeary~paddle thebigdog
22:29.36thebigdog~whaleslap mgeary
22:29.49mgeary~melvinoops thebigdog
22:30.01mgeary~wake ibot
22:30.06thebigdogibot sucks
22:30.07ibotonly if you ask nicely and pay well.
22:30.12mgearyhahahahahah
22:30.21thebigdogsee told you
22:30.29thebigdogibot whaleslap mgeary
22:30.47mgeary~pacifist ibot
22:34.22Lone_WandererWhat is a Twix moment?  When you want one, or when you're eating one, or something else?
22:35.02orsonjI think it's when you are in an uncomfortable situation and need to mumble something incomprehensable to cover yourself
22:35.09beandogwhen you feel like you're full of caramel
22:35.17orsonjat least according to the commercials
22:35.26beandogorsonj, heh
22:35.40beandogthose commercials are so dumb.
22:35.50orsonjwant to come over and blog?
22:36.08beandogI've often thought of starting a blog just to document how stupid advertisers must think people are the way they make these commercials.
22:36.33beandogorsonj, heh, I was just thinking of the *same* one
22:36.42beandogthat one tops the dumbness.
22:36.43orsonjsorry, http://stupidcommercials.blogspot.com/ is already taken
22:37.04beandogmay 30, 2004?
22:37.20orsonjthat is a bit old
22:37.29beandogthats older than mindjuju
22:38.12beandog5 total posts.
22:38.15beandogI can do better.  I must!
22:39.03orsonjif nothing else, you would be more recent
22:39.16beandogsee, Ive already got a one up.
22:39.40beandoghttp://www.stupidity.org/kid_and_the_exercise_ball808.php
22:39.41orsonjcommercialsthingimdumb.blogspot.com  <- this one is available
22:39.41beandoglmao
22:40.01orsonjs/thing/think/
22:40.22beandogI would do it, although Im not sure that sharpening my sarcasm is such a worthy goal in life.
22:41.31dataw0lfpsh
22:41.42itimber~sarcasm++
22:42.08Lone_WandererOh man, that kid...
22:42.18Lone_WandererI feel kind of bad for him, but it looks like he came out of it okay.
22:42.46orsonjClick the right arrow button on that page
22:43.19dataw0lfgood general OS X tips, not just for Rubyists: http://giantrobots.thoughtbot.com/2009/3/30/2009-rubyist-guide-mac-os-x-development-environment
22:43.24beandoghttp://feuerthoughts.blogspot.com/2008/12/whole-class-of-truly-stupid-television.html
22:43.26beandogheh
22:43.59macnewboldsaw an awesome pic today, can't help sharing. It was a birthday cake, decorated with this saying:
22:44.11Lone_WandererOh, man...
22:44.19macnewbold"Roses are #FF0000, Violets are #0000FF, All my base are belong to you"
22:44.27Lone_WandererThat's a good one :)
23:01.40SunSparc:)
23:04.18dataw0lfhttp://www.theonion.com/content/video/dna_evidence_frees_black_man
23:11.00beandoghttp://www.cafepress.com/seamonkeysuite.125887571
23:11.07beandogthat just looks a little off.
23:16.57itimberI'm out.... later guys
23:28.33mgearydataw0lf: ping
23:31.24dataw0lfmgeary: pong
23:31.46mgearyhey, you worked much with ElementTree in python?
23:32.01dataw0lfYes.

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