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| 01:35.37 | beandog | oy |
| 01:35.41 | beandog | que tal la noche para todos? |
| 01:35.53 | jsmith | Tengo mucho hambre... |
| 01:35.59 | jsmith | ... y estoy un poco cansado |
| 01:36.06 | beandog | cansadito |
| 01:36.16 | jsmith | pero la noche va bastante bien |
| 01:36.23 | beandog | muy bien |
| 01:36.39 | jsmith | Y la tuya? |
| 01:37.00 | beandog | estoy buscando algo para hacer |
| 01:37.11 | beandog | creo que voy a trabajar un poco en mi sitio de web |
| 01:38.27 | jsmith | muy bien... voy para comer |
| 01:38.37 | jsmith | (Que voy a comer? No se...) |
| 01:40.26 | beandog | piza! |
| 01:50.08 | DexterTheDragon | english people, english! |
| 01:50.24 | jsmith | DexterTheDragon: Fine! |
| 01:57.36 | beandog | your mom speaks english |
| 01:58.14 | DexterTheDragon | thats how I learned it |
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| 13:41.31 | itimber | sup guys |
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| 15:44.22 | mindjuju | yipes! |
| 15:45.57 | mindjuju | funny you say that, i just found 2 cans of spidy silly spray in the basement yesterday |
| 15:48.53 | utahcon | nice! |
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| 15:52.47 | Dezertol | works great on cats ;-) |
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| 15:55.08 | mindjuju | ironcatastrophe ? |
| 15:55.14 | ironcatastrophe | It's my rock star name. |
| 15:55.26 | ironcatastrophe | I was just registering my nicks :) |
| 15:55.33 | mindjuju | is that iron like the element? or an article of clothing that was mis-ironed? |
| 15:55.54 | supernovia | One name, many meanings. Like an onion skin. |
| 15:55.56 | mindjuju | possibly a nice shirt with a iron-shaped burn mark? |
| 15:56.38 | macnewbold | it's a play on words - something about trying to use an iron on a cat |
| 15:57.27 | supernovia | maybe -that's- what happened to James Bond.. :-( |
| 15:58.01 | supernovia | (actually James, brother of Nimbus and oen of my two cats, got in an argument with the local bobcat. He's alive still but missing half his rear end.) |
| 15:58.10 | herlo | macnewbold: that would be an astrophe? |
| 15:59.27 | supernovia | lol, you guys crack me up |
| 16:00.12 | macnewbold | and don't sit on a wall |
| 16:00.18 | macnewbold | or they might not be able to put you back together again |
| 16:00.32 | supernovia | actually we -tried- using glue on poor James's behind and it didn't work :-( |
| 16:00.43 | supernovia | you know the old superglue instead of stitches trick.. |
| 16:02.06 | supernovia | (this is james btw... http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v342/56/62/1011525757/n1011525757_176419_2598.jpg ) |
| 16:02.58 | utahcon | porr cat has no face! |
| 16:03.07 | utahcon | love the pants |
| 16:03.15 | supernovia | Thanks :) |
| 16:03.37 | supernovia | and macnewbold goodness gracious |
| 16:04.06 | supernovia | as a testament to how cracked up I am I didn't even get what you were saying till just now :-p (I'd been scrolling up looking for the reference) |
| 16:05.30 | supernovia | Thanks, I love that one. |
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| 16:21.22 | SunSparc | supernovia: Something happened to James? |
| 16:21.40 | supernovia | yeah, he's still alive but I think the bobcat that's been prowling the neighborhood got him |
| 16:21.55 | SunSparc | Skeary. |
| 16:22.05 | supernovia | he's missing a chunk of flesh about as big as Mary's palm |
| 16:22.15 | SunSparc | Ouch. Poor kitty. |
| 16:22.18 | supernovia | I know |
| 16:22.46 | SunSparc | Back when we had kitties, we never let them out of the house, ever. They were just indoor cats. |
| 16:23.00 | supernovia | Yeah, I can't do that or my allergies go nuts |
| 16:23.08 | SunSparc | We took them out once or twice when they were young so they could play on the grass, but that is about it. |
| 16:23.15 | mgeary | why why why would you keep a cat when you're allergic to it? |
| 16:23.24 | mgeary | miserable beasts |
| 16:23.26 | SunSparc | supernovia: That is probably what happened to Mrs. SunSparc |
| 16:23.27 | supernovia | I like them |
| 16:23.40 | supernovia | and my kids like them |
| 16:23.53 | SunSparc | Mrs. SunSparc LOVES animals and is allergic to them all. :( Sad. |
| 16:23.59 | SunSparc | I miss my kitties. |
| 16:24.07 | supernovia | I am afraid to take James to a vet because they'll probably just put him down :-( |
| 16:24.19 | SunSparc | Is he suffering? |
| 16:24.20 | supernovia | and so far he seems to be trying to make himself better. what would you do? |
| 16:24.35 | supernovia | He's sore for sure.. |
| 16:24.47 | supernovia | I have to go check on him again this morning |
| 16:24.51 | SunSparc | I would have taken him to the vet. I am overly protective though. |
| 16:25.18 | supernovia | Yeah, I wanted to too actually but supernovio did not want to waste that money just to have them kill james |
| 16:25.44 | SunSparc | Well, it is not their decision. |
| 16:26.03 | SunSparc | It is your cat. |
| 16:26.12 | supernovia | he doesn't want to waste money on expensive surgeries to fix him either :-( |
| 16:26.56 | SunSparc | Well, yes, I tend to agree with that. It is a hard thing to spend money on a pet. Then again, how much do you love your pets and how much do they add to your quality of life? |
| 16:27.29 | supernovia | yeah it's complicated |
| 16:27.45 | SunSparc | Since I can't have cats at home, I have cats as pets in World of Warcraft. heh. |
| 16:27.47 | supernovia | really complicated actually |
| 16:27.52 | supernovia | heheh |
| 16:28.03 | supernovia | that's cool |
| 16:28.20 | SunSparc | Yeah, they actually have some nice looking cats in WoW. |
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| 16:32.14 | supernovia | I need to go talk to my neighbors about the cats anyway. Ingrid will know what to do about James. |
| 16:32.54 | supernovia | nice german lady across the street :) We take turns taking care of each others cats when the other isn't around |
| 16:34.22 | unum | I have a siamese and an orange tabby |
| 16:34.48 | utahcon | My step-mom has a maine-coon (I think that's what they are called) biggest damned cat I have ever seen. |
| 16:35.10 | SunSparc | unum: I like siamese. |
| 16:35.26 | SunSparc | fungus: wow! |
| 16:35.48 | SunSparc | supernovia: Does Ingrid speak German? Actually from Germany? |
| 16:35.55 | fungus | damn dog, used to swallow socks all the time. That one, didn't make it through. |
| 16:35.57 | supernovia | Yeah, she's really German |
| 16:36.29 | SunSparc | Swallow socks?! WTH? |
| 16:36.41 | supernovia | http://novapages.com/ideablog/design/photographs/the-family-dog/ |
| 16:36.41 | SunSparc | Is he cotton deficient or something? lol |
| 16:36.56 | fungus | They look like rope toys "after processing" |
| 16:37.01 | unum | ya my coworkers dog did that |
| 16:37.04 | SunSparc | supernovia: Where in Germany is she from? And how long ago did she move here? |
| 16:37.19 | supernovia | She's been here -quite- a while (since she was a young wife) |
| 16:37.21 | unum | I said I'd just get a new dog that was smart enough not to swallow socks |
| 16:37.33 | unum | made me a little unpopular with some of my other coworkers |
| 16:37.46 | supernovia | and I can't remember which part of Germany but I'm thinking she's in her mid 70s |
| 16:37.59 | SunSparc | supernovia: That Family Dog post is funny. Kids are so fun. |
| 16:38.02 | fungus | Oh my dog learned his lesson after that. |
| 16:38.22 | supernovia | How did he learn his lesson fungus? |
| 16:38.31 | SunSparc | fungus: Did he? No more sock swallowing? |
| 16:38.40 | supernovia | and thanks SunSparc -- I think she was craving salt or something... |
| 16:38.41 | fungus | Yup, no more socks. |
| 16:39.18 | fungus | It took some extra training, and chastising my niece not to leave dirty socks on the floor |
| 16:40.44 | supernovia | glad you were able to get him to stop :-p that'd be fairly gross |
| 16:44.53 | SunSparc | LOL, fungus were the socks ever reused after being processed by Fido? :) |
| 16:45.50 | fungus | No way. eww. |
| 16:46.37 | SunSparc | Heh |
| 16:46.44 | supernovia | hhe |
| 16:46.57 | unum | I know someone that has a rock that his dog swalled |
| 16:47.01 | unum | swallowed |
| 16:47.22 | unum | he offered to make a necklace out of it for his wife. after all it's a really expensive rock |
| 16:47.45 | supernovia | heeh |
| 16:48.01 | supernovia | my laughs aren't coming out right today |
| 16:48.08 | SunSparc | :) |
| 16:48.23 | fungus | heh, I wanted a rock necklace like that as a teenager, but I wanted to "process" it. |
| 16:48.48 | supernovia | You wanted to process it? Goodness. |
| 16:49.08 | supernovia | Rock tumblers are the way to go, man |
| 16:49.52 | supernovia | they come out shinier that way too |
| 16:55.47 | supernovia | I think it's that shutters bit and the talk of dogs pooping socks reminded me of the guy who threw up the sash |
| 16:55.51 | supernovia | I gots to go check on mah kitties and collect my lost thoughts. See you all in a bit. |
| 17:09.07 | tierra | next steps: close the file, open a new one ending in .py, and start coding ;) |
| 17:10.39 | tierra | heh |
| 17:11.54 | utahcon | ~lart tierra |
| 17:11.54 | jbot | calls tierra on the phone ... the lights are on but nobody's home |
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| 17:30.08 | Lone_Wanderer | SunSparc: I tamed Humar almost on accident when my hunter was level 15-ish. |
| 17:32.05 | Lone_Wanderer | You tame cats in WoW and you don't know who Humar is??? |
| 17:32.14 | SunSparc | Heh |
| 17:32.15 | Lone_Wanderer | Lemme guess - Alliance Scum? |
| 17:32.58 | SunSparc | Yes, Alliance. |
| 17:32.59 | fungus | pops into Moonkin |
| 17:33.15 | utahcon | what is moonkin? |
| 17:33.48 | fungus | Druid kicking some ass form |
| 17:34.09 | wps | ~soap-mouth fungus |
| 17:34.24 | Dezertol | lol.. furvert |
| 17:34.33 | Dezertol | j/k |
| 17:35.01 | SunSparc | I see Humar is located in the Barren. :) I only go there to kill bad guys. |
| 17:35.05 | SunSparc | heh |
| 17:35.55 | Lone_Wanderer | The only bad guys in the Barrens are the goblins, kolkar and bristlebacks. Oh, and the Alliance outrunners. |
| 17:36.31 | SunSparc | Lone_Wanderer: my main character is a Pally, can't really tame cats, so have to get the pre-tamed kinds. |
| 17:36.37 | Lone_Wanderer | ahh, okay |
| 17:36.43 | Lone_Wanderer | I was wondering why you were talking about maces. |
| 17:36.47 | Lone_Wanderer | Lemme guess, retadin? |
| 17:37.25 | Lone_Wanderer | Be honest - when the massive ret buff came out, you respecced and murdered people left and right. |
| 17:37.40 | Lone_Wanderer | I know I did :D |
| 17:38.14 | SunSparc | Lone_Wanderer: lol, I have not actually played since the buff came out. I only recently reactivated my acccount. |
| 17:38.20 | SunSparc | Have not played in a year or so. |
| 17:38.25 | Lone_Wanderer | Ohh, that's too bad. |
| 17:38.33 | SunSparc | I just learned that Stormwind now has a shipping port! |
| 17:38.35 | SunSparc | Nice |
| 17:38.43 | Lone_Wanderer | Retribution was unstoppably overpowered for a little while. |
| 17:39.04 | utahcon | w00t for regressively moving forward! |
| 17:39.06 | SunSparc | Sweet. :) |
| 17:39.07 | mindjuju | are ya'll talking WoW? |
| 17:39.17 | Lone_Wanderer | Now it's just garden variety overpowered. |
| 17:39.20 | SunSparc | ~WoW mindjuju |
| 17:39.21 | jbot | [mindjuju] sleeping with his left eye open, or insane, or a windows system administrator *GASP*, or the Prophet of Breakbeats, or sweat sexy hawtness, or a Texan, or wears his snuggie in the buff, or has a thing for hawt sitcom moms |
| 17:39.48 | mindjuju | so what ever happened with the zombies? |
| 17:39.54 | mindjuju | and getting turned into a zombie |
| 17:40.10 | Lone_Wanderer | With some of the new mana-restoring talents you could crit five times in a row in under two seconds and still be full on mana and health. |
| 17:40.33 | SunSparc | Lone_Wanderer: Wow! I am sad I missed that. |
| 17:40.36 | Lone_Wanderer | And those are on skills with really short cooldowns. So you could go into BGs and just destroy every non-paladin you see. |
| 17:41.04 | Lone_Wanderer | mindjuju: that was a fun diversion! but it ended when Wrath of the Liche King came out. |
| 17:41.10 | SunSparc | trees |
| 17:41.25 | mindjuju | so is the Liche King still kicking or did that end? |
| 17:41.38 | Lone_Wanderer | Dunno, I'm assuming he's still around. |
| 17:41.56 | Lone_Wanderer | I think you can actually fight him in one of the endgame instances. |
| 17:42.11 | Lone_Wanderer | s/fight/get killed by |
| 17:42.15 | fungus | Not yet, the Icecrown dungeon isn't available yet |
| 17:42.33 | Lone_Wanderer | My browser is slow :( |
| 17:42.42 | Lone_Wanderer | Really slow. Stupid Firefox. |
| 17:43.11 | SunSparc | Lone_Wanderer: Need more RAM? |
| 17:43.20 | Lone_Wanderer | I doubt it. |
| 17:43.54 | Lone_Wanderer | I've got 2 gigs and... wait, only 2 gigs? I could have sworn I had more. |
| 17:44.25 | Lone_Wanderer | Anyway, it's barely over half full. |
| 17:44.29 | SunSparc | I still only have 2. I look forward to a new MBP with 4 gigs |
| 17:44.37 | Lone_Wanderer | My guess is that the most recent FF release just hogs CPU time. |
| 17:45.24 | Lone_Wanderer | Heh. I have 3 gigs of physical ram but only 2 is showing up on the task manager. |
| 17:45.35 | Lone_Wanderer | Where did the rest go? Could it be that Vista is hogging it? |
| 17:47.44 | thebigdog | SunSparc, new mbp with 8g and new quad cpu |
| 17:47.49 | SunSparc | Could it be Vista only recognizes 2? |
| 17:48.00 | SunSparc | thebigdog: Oh yeah! That would be sweet. |
| 17:48.03 | Lone_Wanderer | That's possible as well. |
| 17:48.20 | thebigdog | The new mbp support 8g now |
| 17:49.15 | SunSparc | I would never have any problems with WoW on that machine. |
| 17:49.19 | SunSparc | :) |
| 17:49.29 | SunSparc | And CoD4 would scream! |
| 17:49.46 | mgeary | ahh, to be young, foolish, and have time for computer games |
| 17:49.56 | SunSparc | mgeary: Young is a choice. ;) |
| 17:51.03 | SunSparc | mgeary: I bet you and I are peers in age. |
| 17:51.41 | mgeary | well, i was kind of more dreaming about having the time for games, not so much about being younger |
| 17:52.19 | SunSparc | mgeary: You should take time. I play on Saturday mornings with my 6-year-old. He loves it. |
| 17:52.23 | mgeary | but that's just a priorities thing |
| 17:52.52 | SunSparc | Yes, it is all about priorities. |
| 17:54.42 | mindjuju | so hey, i was looking at a tut for ubuntu -- what's up with pico? is it like nano but better? |
| 17:54.53 | mindjuju | pico < nano < vi ? |
| 17:55.43 | SunSparc | pico is pretty much == to nano. |
| 17:55.58 | mindjuju | k |
| 17:56.19 | SunSparc | Both of which are far <<< than vim |
| 17:56.33 | mindjuju | really? |
| 17:59.59 | Dezertol | pico comes with pine it's in the same build |
| 18:00.20 | Dezertol | it's not a bad little editor either |
| 18:00.35 | Dezertol | i'm a vi/vim guy tho |
| 18:01.00 | SunSparc | Not, neither pico nor nano is a bad editor. They are just very basic editors. Nothing near the power (or the learning curve) of vim. |
| 18:02.12 | Dezertol | most of the guys i work with are emacs guys |
| 18:02.34 | Dezertol | i've never taking the time to learn emacs tho |
| 18:02.48 | SunSparc | Nor have I. |
| 18:03.17 | Dezertol | I've yet to run in to a system that I needed to edit something.. where vi wasn't a choice and emacs was |
| 18:03.22 | Dezertol | lol and untill that day..... |
| 18:03.22 | SunSparc | Then again, I refuse to because that would be a sin against vim! (from a strictly holy war standpoint) |
| 18:03.35 | Dezertol | right right |
| 18:03.36 | SunSparc | ~lart emacs |
| 18:03.36 | jbot | beats emacs senseless with a 50lb Unix manual |
| 18:03.53 | mgeary | how appropriate |
| 18:03.57 | mgeary | that'd be the vi manual |
| 18:03.59 | SunSparc | heh |
| 18:04.23 | Dezertol | if the vi manual was 50lb.. it would have to be made of gold |
| 18:04.44 | Dezertol | or at least.. sheet steel |
| 18:04.46 | Dezertol | lol |
| 18:06.16 | mgeary | heh |
| 18:06.16 | SunSparc | :) |
| 18:06.44 | mgeary | or at least, that He had a label |
| 18:06.48 | SunSparc | Probably mostly religious stuff. |
| 18:07.18 | SunSparc | That would be cool if He did some alternative rock or electronia. |
| 18:07.21 | SunSparc | +s |
| 18:15.02 | dataw0lf | http://www.traileraddict.com/trailer/where-the-wild-things-are/trailer |
| 18:15.05 | dataw0lf | Oh. Yea. |
| 18:15.55 | mgeary | hah |
| 18:35.59 | utahcon | desnews fail http://deseretnews.com/world-nation/president-barack-obama |
| 18:42.51 | unum | so in church last week I found out that the finicial melt down didn't start until obama became president |
| 18:43.06 | unum | funny the company that ran my 401k folded well before that.... |
| 18:43.08 | mgeary | well of course not |
| 18:43.45 | Dezertol | no it was well under way.. a long time befor obama |
| 18:43.56 | Dezertol | but dumping gas on the fire isn't exactly the best way to put it ou |
| 18:43.58 | Dezertol | out |
| 18:43.58 | utahcon | wow... finally a typo in url that worked out to not be porn, AND what I was thinking... foupon.com |
| 18:44.00 | utahcon | err |
| 18:44.02 | utahcon | foupons.com |
| 18:44.15 | Dezertol | lol |
| 18:44.48 | unum | what were you looking for? |
| 18:44.56 | utahcon | too bad their utah listings suck |
| 18:45.39 | Dezertol | I uesd http://www.lunchclub.com/ a lot in AZ |
| 18:45.48 | Dezertol | not sure if they have a presence here or not |
| 18:46.24 | utahcon | I used to run GrabTakeOut.com, they are based here. |
| 18:54.56 | Dezertol | hey.. what was the donut shop link someone posted |
| 18:55.01 | Dezertol | it was a local shop |
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| 19:09.55 | Dezertol | is there a "chat log" somewhere I can search |
| 19:11.13 | utahcon | yes |
| 19:12.49 | fungus | ibot.rikers.org |
| 19:13.02 | fungus | um, not searchable though. |
| 19:13.36 | fungus | http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Aibot.rikers.org+search+terms |
| 19:15.28 | utahcon | beyondglaze.com |
| 19:16.02 | utahcon | courtesy of my firefox history |
| 19:29.38 | _psychic_ | what music apps are people using in here? Pandora is recycling the same crap lately.... |
| 19:30.20 | SunSparc | _psychic_: have you used the "don't play this song for a month" option? |
| 19:30.28 | _psychic_ | repeatedly. |
| 19:30.28 | SunSparc | Or added new stations? |
| 19:30.38 | _psychic_ | Yup. |
| 19:30.39 | utahcon | _psychic_: shoutcase :D |
| 19:30.50 | utahcon | s/shoutcase/shoutcast/ |
| 19:32.59 | _psychic_ | SunSparc: my problem with Pandora is that it takes as much work to setup as it does to just google around for tunes |
| 19:33.03 | _psychic_ | I don't think it's for me |
| 19:33.13 | SunSparc | _psychic_: Have you gone through my stations list? |
| 19:33.27 | _psychic_ | A bit |
| 19:33.44 | SunSparc | Ok, well, I guess it is not for everyone. |
| 19:34.29 | SunSparc | _psychic_: Have you tried Andy's new Goodness list? |
| 19:34.33 | _psychic_ | yeah |
| 19:34.36 | SunSparc | heh |
| 19:34.37 | _psychic_ | but that's only once everyfew weeks |
| 19:34.48 | _psychic_ | utahcon: commercials? |
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| 19:36.52 | Lone_Wanderer | I hate mIRC and want it to die. |
| 19:36.59 | Lone_Wanderer | I hate mIRC and want it to die. (In case anyone missed that.) |
| 19:37.19 | wps | I love Colloquy |
| 19:37.21 | *** mode/#UPHPU [+v Lone_Wanderer] by ChanServ |
| 19:37.32 | Lone_Wanderer | All I want to do is connect two another server. |
| 19:37.40 | Lone_Wanderer | Why does that have to involve disconnecting from this one? |
| 19:37.41 | SunSparc | Lone_Wanderer: Have you tried Pirch? |
| 19:38.01 | Lone_Wanderer | Why does it have to involve obscure, retarded and possibly gay (not that there's anything wrong with that) menus? |
| 19:38.27 | Lone_Wanderer | Frailty, thy name is womIRC! |
| 19:38.36 | Lone_Wanderer | I have not. Perhaps I shall. |
| 19:38.39 | orsonj | ~irssi++ |
| 19:38.43 | SunSparc | _psychic_: Can you handle techno? |
| 19:38.52 | _psychic_ | yeah |
| 19:39.07 | _psychic_ | I have a lot of game remixes that are techno |
| 19:39.21 | SunSparc | Oh yeah, I forgot. You have some really good ones. |
| 19:40.25 | SunSparc | _psychic_: Add this to your iTunes -> http://scfire-nyk-aa03.stream.aol.com:80/stream/1003 |
| 19:40.37 | SunSparc | And this -> http://www.ravetrax.com:8128 |
| 19:45.52 | fungus | wow, mIRC? didn't that die back in the 90's |
| 19:47.26 | *** join/#uphpu kingsol (n=kingsol@64.0.193.254) |
| 19:52.38 | SunSparc | fungus: Heh, nope, still around. I stopped using it back in the 90s though. :) |
| 20:15.00 | brasto | I think I've found the most retarded password enforcement rules yet on Nelnet. |
| 20:15.42 | Dezertol | 10+ every other letter has to be a number or special char |
| 20:16.02 | brasto | You can't have numbers separated. If you have any numbers, you have to put them all together. |
| 20:16.11 | brasto | You can't have any special characters |
| 20:16.18 | Dezertol | what? |
| 20:16.26 | brasto | it cannot be more than 10 characters |
| 20:16.41 | Dezertol | o.. so the want to be able to hack your account quickly |
| 20:16.44 | brasto | so they are actually enforcing rules that make it harder to have a secure password. |
| 20:16.52 | Dezertol | right |
| 20:16.53 | Dezertol | nice |
| 20:17.13 | brasto | i finally gave up on all my secure passwords i usually leave, and it took a dictionary word... |
| 20:17.19 | Dezertol | at least is wasn't.. your password must be your username backwards |
| 20:17.20 | brasto | s/leave/use/ |
| 20:18.05 | brasto | not quite that insecure :) |
| 20:18.09 | Dezertol | i'm lazy and just use slacks out of the box mkpasswd |
| 20:18.18 | Dezertol | when I need a new password |
| 20:18.53 | brasto | is that a linux program? |
| 20:19.34 | Dezertol | it's out of the box on my slackware (Linux) install |
| 20:19.38 | Dezertol | so I'm guessing so |
| 20:20.15 | brasto | ah, yep, i've got it too |
| 20:20.24 | Dezertol | but.. it's been a good 10 years since I used anything but slack and free/open bsd |
| 20:20.26 | brasto | it makes a hash of your password |
| 20:20.50 | Dezertol | I use the output for my passwords |
| 20:20.51 | Dezertol | lol |
| 20:20.58 | Dezertol | it's 8 chars |
| 20:21.04 | Dezertol | and totaly random |
| 20:21.43 | Dezertol | the man page on my install says -> "mkpasswd - generate new password, optionally apply it to a user |
| 20:22.09 | Dezertol | you can pass the -l to get it longer |
| 20:22.29 | brasto | interesting... so if you put the same password in there it still generates something different each time |
| 20:22.46 | brasto | so it's not a hash by itself.... perhaps a hash with a salt combined... |
| 20:22.52 | mgeary | apg++ |
| 20:22.58 | Dezertol | the args for it on "length" and username |
| 20:23.06 | Dezertol | the output is random |
| 20:23.48 | Dezertol | http://expect.nist.gov/example/mkpasswd.man.html |
| 20:23.58 | Dezertol | that's the one I have |
| 20:24.03 | Dezertol | not sure if there are different ones |
| 20:24.31 | Dezertol | mkpasswd -l 15 -d 3 -C 5 |
| 20:24.35 | Dezertol | now that's a password |
| 20:24.49 | Dezertol | lol |
| 20:25.53 | fungus | ~apg++ |
| 20:26.34 | fungus | http://www.adel.nursat.kz/apg/ |
| 20:27.24 | brasto | sweet! |
| 20:27.45 | mgeary | works great on OS X, too |
| 20:28.37 | brasto | I tested and even if you add the same salt to it each time, it's still randomly different for whatever string you put in there. |
| 20:28.48 | Dezertol | is it a bad sign when you type "ls" and hit entry and your system has to think about it |
| 20:28.52 | brasto | probably the details are in man crypt. |
| 20:29.14 | brasto | Dezertol: probably |
| 20:29.24 | Dezertol | 6161 files |
| 20:29.27 | Dezertol | er.. folders |
| 20:29.28 | Dezertol | actually |
| 20:29.36 | Dezertol | stupid markting project |
| 20:29.40 | Dezertol | that never made it to life |
| 20:29.46 | Dezertol | rm -rf ... on that one |
| 20:29.54 | brasto | cool, you need a very scrollback for that. |
| 20:30.09 | utahcon | ZendFramework that is |
| 20:30.50 | brasto | jbot, sneak a copy of Zend on every one of utahcon's systems. |
| 20:32.10 | utahcon | I don't mind it being htere |
| 20:32.15 | utahcon | just wasn't expecting it |
| 20:40.30 | brasto | jbot, sneak $1 a $2 is <action> sneaks $2 to $1 and runs away |
| 20:40.31 | jbot | okay, brasto |
| 20:42.28 | brasto | jbot, sneak utahcon a copy of zend, and installs it without telling him |
| 20:42.29 | jbot | ACTION sneaks copy of zend, and installs it without telling him to utahcon and runs away |
| 20:44.22 | fungus | wax on... |
| 20:44.44 | brasto | wax off! |
| 20:45.30 | brasto | except, in this case, the moon is truely waxing on... I get it! |
| 20:45.39 | brasto | s/truely/truly/ |
| 20:45.51 | brasto | jbot, shutup |
| 20:45.52 | jbot | yes master, I'll STFU |
| 20:46.00 | brasto | ~stfu |
| 20:46.01 | jbot | :( |
| 20:46.18 | brasto | I'm not so sure I should look that one up... |
| 20:49.15 | SunSparc | Don't |
| 20:54.02 | Dezertol | http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts-apparel/unisex/generic/78ae/ |
| 20:59.28 | SunSparc | Nice. |
| 20:59.39 | SunSparc | Sweet, they have mgeary's shirt -> http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts-apparel/unisex/generic/8753/?cpg=ab |
| 20:59.46 | Dezertol | I have a nice collection of thinkgeek stuff |
| 21:00.04 | SunSparc | My favorite so far is my powerball |
| 21:01.51 | SunSparc | I am actually in the customer pictures section. |
| 21:01.55 | Dezertol | http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts-apparel/hats-ties/a733/ |
| 21:01.56 | Dezertol | lol |
| 21:02.14 | Dezertol | not sure what's funnyer that the have this or that there are customer action shots |
| 21:02.16 | SunSparc | Nice. Wear that one to work. |
| 21:02.28 | SunSparc | True geeks. |
| 21:04.19 | unum | you shouldn't have shown me that |
| 21:04.37 | SunSparc | Heh |
| 21:08.02 | Dezertol | lol... -> http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts-apparel/miscellaneous/9be6/?cpg=ab watch the video |
| 21:08.03 | Dezertol | lol |
| 21:08.06 | Dezertol | it's awsome |
| 21:10.36 | SunSparc | Sweet! |
| 21:10.47 | mgeary | heh |
| 21:10.55 | mgeary | ~meh |
| 21:10.55 | jbot | meh int. /meh/ [The Simpsons] An interjection expressing apathy, or mgeary's favorite phrase |
| 21:11.17 | mgeary | i don't know that i'd say it's necessarily apathy when i do it |
| 21:11.32 | mgeary | it's more like... |
| 21:11.37 | mgeary | a state of not being impressed |
| 21:11.40 | Dezertol | mgeary did you see your t-shirt -> http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts-apparel/unisex/generic/8753/ |
| 21:11.50 | mgeary | yeah |
| 21:12.03 | mgeary | not being impressed isn't the same as not caring |
| 21:12.49 | *** join/#uphpu thebigdog (n=thebigdo@207.135.132.13) |
| 21:12.49 | *** mode/#UPHPU [+o thebigdog] by ChanServ |
| 21:12.53 | mgeary | ~lart thebigdog |
| 21:12.53 | jbot | shoots thebigdog in his sleep |
| 21:12.56 | dataw0lf | mmmm, I use meh to express apathy, myself. |
| 21:13.25 | thebigdog | kk mgeary |
| 21:13.33 | mgeary | i suppose it's a multi-purpose utterance |
| 21:14.15 | mgeary | hey, anyone here got Safari 3 handy? |
| 21:14.22 | mgeary | i've got S4 beta on both my machines |
| 21:14.26 | mgeary | need to test something |
| 21:15.08 | SunSparc | Oh wait, no, it is 4. :) |
| 21:15.25 | mgeary | bah |
| 21:15.38 | mgeary | anyone ELSE have Safari 3? |
| 21:15.42 | SunSparc | lol |
| 21:16.02 | SunSparc | Anyone else here not a cutting edge tech geek? |
| 21:17.24 | Dezertol | I got a 3.2.1 on my dev windows box |
| 21:17.30 | Dezertol | Safari |
| 21:20.17 | thebigdog | i dont have safari |
| 21:20.19 | thebigdog | cause it sucks |
| 21:20.33 | Dezertol | do you have google chrome |
| 21:21.36 | thebigdog | no cause that does not run on linux without some heartache |
| 21:21.39 | thebigdog | i use midori |
| 21:22.13 | thebigdog | and epiphany w/ webkit |
| 21:22.34 | Dezertol | both safari and google chrome also use webkit |
| 21:24.21 | thebigdog | yes and safari still sucks...until i get a mbp |
| 21:24.38 | thebigdog | then it will be removed from the list of suckiness |
| 21:28.21 | mgeary | i found someone here |
| 21:59.09 | Dezertol | so I go threw music phases where I listen to all kinds of stuff.. and I came across this-> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GrypOyPoto |
| 21:59.15 | Dezertol | it's techo/rap from england |
| 22:06.17 | thebigdog | ok english rap is just not happening for me |
| 22:11.20 | itimber | I'm out.... later guys |
| 22:11.33 | thebigdog | oh nice |
| 22:26.44 | Dezertol | I guess what I find intresting is how fast it is for "rap" |
| 22:27.00 | Dezertol | keeping up with that tempo would be a trick |
| 22:27.43 | Dezertol | like busta rhyms when he goes off |
| 22:27.54 | Dezertol | and it's just a string a mile long with no breath... |
| 22:30.19 | SunSparc | Is it an infinitesimally small quantum string? |
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| 23:06.09 | mindjuju | thebigdog |
| 23:06.11 | mindjuju | you around? |
| 23:08.26 | thebigdog | yes |
| 23:09.30 | thebigdog | mindjuju, what you need? |
| 23:12.33 | thebigdog | mindjuju, did you need something |
| 23:13.47 | mindjuju | hey thebigdog |
| 23:14.01 | mindjuju | i was wondering if you can point me in the right direction |
| 23:14.14 | thebigdog | ok |
| 23:14.18 | thebigdog | go left |
| 23:14.19 | mindjuju | i want to track who is streaming music on the network |
| 23:14.31 | mindjuju | we've got like 9 switches |
| 23:14.47 | mindjuju | should i just setup a box with wireshark and let it collect for a day? |
| 23:15.19 | thebigdog | you could |
| 23:15.30 | thebigdog | just look at the connections |
| 23:15.52 | Dezertol | or you could download our pilot app -> www.cymphonix.com/revealer |
| 23:16.22 | Dezertol | and filter/throttle them |
| 23:16.23 | Dezertol | lol |
| 23:16.40 | mindjuju | that looks pretty cool |
| 23:16.59 | Dezertol | I control the site and the registration and keys etc... |
| 23:17.11 | Dezertol | so if you want me to pull your contact so you don't get hounded by sales guys |
| 23:17.12 | mindjuju | zoinks! is it free? |
| 23:17.14 | Dezertol | just let me know |
| 23:17.20 | Dezertol | 30 days |
| 23:17.20 | Dezertol | free |
| 23:17.23 | Dezertol | it's a virtual machine |
| 23:17.29 | Dezertol | the real box is a physical appliance |
| 23:17.34 | mindjuju | that's pretty cool |
| 23:17.45 | mindjuju | ah |
| 23:17.53 | Dezertol | you can of course just re-load the vm from the origional download and re-reg a new key |
| 23:18.04 | Dezertol | the keys are stored on the server.. there all 30 day keys |
| 23:18.17 | Dezertol | but it will give you a very good look at your network |
| 23:19.19 | thebigdog | nice |
| 23:19.46 | thebigdog | mindjuju, i have used mrtg too as well |
| 23:19.49 | Dezertol | it's actually pritty slick |
| 23:20.05 | Dezertol | as you can actually see "who" on the network is doing what |
| 23:20.12 | Dezertol | and you can filter them |
| 23:20.18 | Dezertol | or.. throttle them |
| 23:20.20 | Dezertol | or whatever.. |
| 23:20.28 | Dezertol | to "priortize" your bandwidth |
| 23:20.29 | Dezertol | lol |
| 23:20.35 | Dezertol | marketing people ... I sware |
| 23:20.50 | Dezertol | plus the contest is kinda cool |
| 23:22.37 | Dezertol | it's a very modified debian kernel |
| 23:22.48 | Dezertol | with a bunch of custom stuff |
| 23:22.55 | Dezertol | I'm not on that team tho |
| 23:25.13 | mindjuju | i'm going to have to get it, it's looking pretty dang cool |
| 23:25.36 | Dezertol | ya.. of the people that attend our webinars.. |
| 23:25.49 | Dezertol | we have over 50% that buy |
| 23:26.35 | Dezertol | once it "clicks" for the people.. it's not a hard sell |
| 23:26.54 | Dezertol | but getting it to click often requires some.. education |
| 23:26.59 | Dezertol | into the way the internet works |
| 23:27.09 | Dezertol | and that's often above the heads of a lot of people |
| 23:28.26 | Dezertol | if you do go for it.. and find the site or expirence clunky or just odd.. |
| 23:28.30 | Dezertol | I'd love the feedback |
| 23:39.19 | mindjuju | will do |
| 23:41.28 | fungus | mindjuju: in a switched network environment you need either a switch that supports monitoring or mirroring. |
| 23:42.16 | fungus | or you need to put the sniffer inline with the link to the router |
| 23:56.17 | SunSparc | Guten abend ales |
| 23:56.27 | macnewbold | if you don't have a switch that supports monitoring, there's an awful hack that is really awesome yet simple and elegant, that you can find in a package called dsniff, from monkey.org I think |
| 23:56.56 | macnewbold | they have a tool that blows out the switch's MAC address cache so that it becomes a hub. when switch==hub, sniffing==good |
| 23:57.17 | macnewbold | you'd of course still need it on a switch that sees all the traffic you want to see |
| 23:57.17 | fungus | lol, that's another way around it. |
| 23:58.00 | macnewbold | it doesn't do good things for your network performance though :) |
| 23:58.25 | macnewbold | so whenever possible, do it on a device that only has 3 things plugged into it: the upstream link, the downstream link, and your sniffer box |
| 23:58.34 | macnewbold | that would have minimal impact |
