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| 03:02.11 | macnewbold | ~zippy |
| 03:28.27 | macnewbold | ~yow |
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| 14:45.13 | macnewbold | ~w00t |
| 14:45.14 | jbot | w00t!!! |
| 14:46.09 | macnewbold | ~seen supernovia |
| 14:46.13 | jbot | supernovia <n=Velda@c-67-164-250-20.hsd1.ut.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #uphpu, 17h 27m 35s ago, saying: 'hmm'. |
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| 15:03.52 | *** topic/#UPHPU by macnewbold -> Meeting Tonight! @ 7pm | Fun with SQL - presented by Joshua Tolley - eggyknap | Utah PHP Users Group | UPHPU.org |
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| 15:07.47 | SunSparc | ~morning |
| 15:07.48 | jbot | Good morning! |
| 15:08.02 | SunSparc | ~wake everyone |
| 15:08.03 | jbot | ACTION throws a barrel-full of ice water on everyone and shouts "GOOD MORNING!!!!" |
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| 15:10.51 | mgeary | ~yow |
| 15:13.34 | mgeary | that explains a lot |
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| 15:46.52 | redroy__ | Morning everyone... |
| 15:46.58 | macnewbold | g'day |
| 15:47.06 | macnewbold | ~dance |
| 15:47.07 | jbot | <(*.*<) <(*.*)> \(*.*)/ (>*.*)> |
| 15:47.48 | macnewbold | for a minute, that looked like jbot was doing the YMCA dance |
| 15:47.57 | macnewbold | ~dance |
| 15:47.58 | jbot | <(*.*<) <(*.*)> \(*.*)/ (>*.*)> |
| 15:48.08 | macnewbold | hm, guess he doesn't know any other moves |
| 15:48.40 | mindjuju | jbot, dance |
| 15:48.41 | jbot | <(*.*<) <(*.*)> \(*.*)/ (>*.*)> |
| 15:48.52 | redroy__ | I've got another MySql question if anybody is up to it this early... basically I can't figure why this query http://pastebin.com/m20d2c4d8 works perfectly without the highlighted AND clause but returns NULL for the sub_category if the highlighted area is there? |
| 15:48.54 | mindjuju | he used to say "to much junk in the booty" |
| 15:49.32 | redroy__ | I suspect it has something to do with the GROUP_CONCAT as I'm new to this feature and playing around with it |
| 15:52.20 | macnewbold | I just updated it redroy__ with my suggestion |
| 15:52.30 | macnewbold | I think if you put that on the ON clause instead of the where, it might do what you want |
| 15:52.38 | macnewbold | where is good at filtering which lines it returns, |
| 15:52.45 | macnewbold | ON is better at filtering how it joins |
| 15:58.10 | redroy__ | Ah, yes that does do the trick. So, that would probably be the only way to yield those results given my query then.... I ask because the AND or HAVING is dropped in dynamically by a search class (if searched). |
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| 16:09.09 | mgeary | mindjuju: i guess jbot went on a diet |
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| 16:19.34 | mindjuju | so for all you mac guys, i enabled apple remote desktop, i'm guessing that's like a vnc server, yes? |
| 16:20.44 | mgeary | sort of |
| 16:20.57 | Dezertol | works like.. but.. isn't vnc |
| 16:20.58 | fungus | If you enable the VNC password in the options it is |
| 16:20.59 | mgeary | in versions less than 10.5, i believe you need to use Apple's tool |
| 16:21.05 | Dezertol | i mean you can't connect to it with a vnc client |
| 16:21.10 | Dezertol | i don't think |
| 16:21.10 | mgeary | 10.5 is VNC compliant |
| 16:21.14 | Dezertol | o.. |
| 16:21.16 | mgeary | and is actually a nice implementation |
| 16:21.16 | Dezertol | news to me |
| 16:21.21 | mindjuju | ah gotcha |
| 16:21.28 | mindjuju | i've been hitting head trying to get this to work |
| 16:21.32 | mgeary | yeah |
| 16:21.41 | mgeary | 10.5 is a nice improvement over 10.4 |
| 16:22.05 | mgeary | ^5 |
| 16:22.36 | fungus | Also Leopard is now officially Unix(tm) |
| 16:22.50 | fungus | woot |
| 16:22.57 | mgeary | "now" ? |
| 16:23.15 | fungus | now, in terms of since Leopard's release |
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| 16:23.23 | fungus | Tiger was not Unix |
| 16:23.24 | mgeary | ah |
| 16:23.59 | redroy__ | btw, does anybody know why my name has an underscore (or underscores) somedays and others not? |
| 16:24.12 | mindjuju | yeah, they like you |
| 16:24.14 | mindjuju | the _ |
| 16:24.19 | mindjuju | don't be hating |
| 16:24.25 | redroy__ | lol |
| 16:24.49 | mindjuju | it has to do with your handle, redroy being registered |
| 16:24.59 | mindjuju | and for what ever reason, your client disconnects from the server and reconnects |
| 16:25.05 | mindjuju | and the server doesn't know that you are you |
| 16:25.15 | mindjuju | and it's protecting the redroy from who ever you are |
| 16:25.22 | mgeary | rightly so |
| 16:25.25 | redroy__ | ah, that makes sense |
| 16:25.27 | redroy__ | thanks |
| 16:25.50 | mindjuju | now, in _psychic_ 's case, he likes it that way |
| 16:25.59 | _psychic_ | he's lying. |
| 16:26.07 | _psychic_ | the more _ you have, the more awesome you are. |
| 16:26.09 | _psychic_ | Everyone knows that. |
| 16:26.13 | macnewbold | redroy__: try /nick redroy |
| 16:26.25 | _psychic_ | or /nick _____redroy______ |
| 16:26.28 | macnewbold | wow |
| 16:26.42 | mindjuju | ~nickometer _psychic_ |
| 16:26.47 | redroy | cool, that seemed to work |
| 16:26.47 | mindjuju | dag! |
| 16:26.48 | macnewbold | or /nick ____r_e_d_r_o_y_____ |
| 16:26.54 | mindjuju | ~nickometer mindjuju |
| 16:26.59 | mindjuju | true that |
| 16:27.05 | _psychic_ | ~nickometer _____redroy______ |
| 16:27.09 | _psychic_ | haha |
| 16:27.12 | redroy | crap |
| 16:27.35 | eggyknap | mindjuju: Would you mind altering http://uphpu.org/events/ to read "Tolley", not "Toiley"? :) |
| 16:27.38 | macnewbold | redroy: what happens is that after you disconnect, your client signs back in before freenode has realized your other one died, so redroy is taken and it can only get redroy_ or __ |
| 16:27.44 | eggyknap | (at your convenience, that is) |
| 16:27.58 | *** topic/#UPHPU by macnewbold -> Meeting Tonight! @ 7pm | Fun with SQL - presented by Joshua Toiley - eggyknap | Utah PHP Users Group | UPHPU.org |
| 16:28.12 | mindjuju | k eggyknap, uno momento por favor |
| 16:28.14 | redroy | ~nickometer redroy |
| 16:28.33 | _psychic_ | ~nickometer jbot |
| 16:28.38 | _psychic_ | biased. |
| 16:28.40 | *** topic/#UPHPU by macnewbold -> Meeting Tonight! @ 7pm | Fun with SQL - presented by Joshua Tolley - eggyknap | Utah PHP Users Group | UPHPU.org |
| 16:28.51 | eggyknap | heh. Thx :) |
| 16:29.06 | redroy | Where's the meeting? |
| 16:29.23 | eggyknap | Presumably "Bill Good Marketing, 12393 Gateway Park Place, Suite 600, Draper, Utah" |
| 16:29.30 | mindjuju | btw, brasto figured out it has to do with the num of symbols in your handle and also figured out what name gave 99.9999% lame, but i don't remember what the handle was |
| 16:29.33 | mindjuju | yup, at bgm |
| 16:29.52 | utahcon | ~nickometer utahcon |
| 16:30.00 | eggyknap | ~nickometer eggyknap |
| 16:30.05 | utahcon | w00t! I am 100% not lame! |
| 16:30.12 | eggyknap | .oO(About the only thing about me that isn't lame) |
| 16:30.20 | utahcon | well at least 99.9999% not lame. |
| 16:32.11 | redroy | Cool, I'm going to try and make it if I can finish up some painting. |
| 16:34.31 | macnewbold | ~nickometer 1824l_ |
| 16:34.45 | macnewbold | ~nickometer _31337_ |
| 16:35.00 | macnewbold | ~nickometer ___1337____ |
| 16:37.10 | macnewbold | ~nickometer leet |
| 16:37.19 | macnewbold | ~nickometer __leet_ |
| 16:40.30 | eggyknap | ~nickometer jbot |
| 16:40.37 | macnewbold | http://www.koders.com/perl/fid20938ADC99D3B903473710D75153DDB8252BB9D8.aspx?s=md5 |
| 16:42.42 | mindjuju | i think that's a different nickometer |
| 16:43.41 | macnewbold | I'm not sure, but I think that's the one that TimRiker used in jbot |
| 16:43.52 | macnewbold | the results match pretty well |
| 16:47.39 | macnewbold | ~nickometer ______m1n3j3uj3____ |
| 16:56.24 | utahcon | ~nickometer __7hE__u74hc0n__ |
| 16:56.45 | utahcon | ~nickometer _<<_{7hE}__{u74hc0n}_>>_ |
| 16:57.01 | utahcon | ~nickometer !^_<<_{7hE}__{u74hc0n}_>>_^! |
| 16:57.17 | utahcon | ~nickometer !^$_<<_{7hE}__{u74hc0n}_>>_$^! |
| 16:57.54 | utahcon | ~nickometer !^#$%_<<_({7hE}_*@*_{u74hc0n})_>>_%$#^! |
| 16:58.05 | utahcon | that is pretty lame |
| 16:58.33 | thebigdog | what the heck...people going crazy |
| 16:58.43 | utahcon | ~nickometer !^#$%_<<_({7|-|E}_*@*_{|_|74|-|<0|\|})_>>_%$#^! |
| 16:58.55 | mgeary | ~nickometer lame |
| 16:59.04 | mgeary | no, it's 100% lame |
| 16:59.18 | utahcon | ~nickometer mgeary |
| 16:59.22 | utahcon | nice |
| 16:59.24 | mgeary | 'course |
| 16:59.30 | utahcon | ~nickometer utahcon |
| 17:00.02 | utahcon | ~lart nickometer |
| 17:00.02 | jbot | throws nickometer's poor little doggy off a cliff |
| 17:00.09 | utahcon | evil |
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| 17:03.11 | SunSparc | ~greet supernovia |
| 17:03.12 | jbot | ACTION dumps a bucket of cold oatmeal on supernovia |
| 17:03.15 | mgeary | ~squish jbot with a house |
| 17:03.16 | jbot | ACTION squishes jbot with a house like a bug |
| 17:03.27 | supernovia | hehe |
| 17:04.11 | supernovia | how are things here today? |
| 17:04.21 | mgeary | lame, apparently |
| 17:04.21 | macnewbold | supernovia: you going to the UPHPU meeting tonight? I can have that "Joseph" movie there if you still want to borrow it. |
| 17:05.02 | supernovia | I am planning on going. Gotta figure out when I can hang out @ my parents to watch it though |
| 17:05.24 | mgeary | hey, most of my apache servers have virtualhosts. So much so that i find it simpler to not have a "primary" host, and only use virtualhosts. Is there a best way to do that? |
| 17:05.30 | supernovia | or are VHS's cheap these days? Maybe we'll buy one and hook it up since we just got a nifty compenent switcher thingy |
| 17:05.41 | macnewbold | probably under $50 |
| 17:05.46 | macnewbold | especially at the D.I. |
| 17:05.52 | mindjuju | i don't think you can buy vhs anymore |
| 17:05.52 | supernovia | er, not VHS's vcr's |
| 17:06.01 | mindjuju | i heard walmart doesn't sell them anymore |
| 17:06.07 | macnewbold | last time I bought a VCR it was a VCR/DVD combo for about $50 |
| 17:06.08 | supernovia | I'll check out the D.I. after picking up the kids today |
| 17:06.14 | supernovia | or ebay |
| 17:06.20 | supernovia | if the di doesn't work |
| 17:06.41 | supernovia | they have their new rooms now so I have to go to the DI anyway to see if I can find some neat night stands and what not I can fix up |
| 17:07.07 | supernovia | Woo hoo! |
| 17:07.15 | mgeary | it's actually 3 waterfalls |
| 17:07.31 | supernovia | I must admit to DexterTheDragon that the rope light didn't turn out as cool as I was hoping. |
| 17:07.47 | mgeary | so about that vhost question...? |
| 17:07.50 | supernovia | in the home theater room. I wasn't supposed to be able to tell it was a rope light but it's a smidge too long for the space.. |
| 17:08.55 | fungus | mgeary: If you have NameVirtualHost defined, and apache doesn't find a matching ServerName it will default to the first VirtualHost entry |
| 17:09.15 | supernovia | we use cPanel w. whm on ours (good for webhosting clients) |
| 17:09.54 | SunSparc | mgeary: No real need to worry about the main site if you have vhosts. |
| 17:10.14 | mgeary | well that's the point. I'd like to essentially get rid of the main site |
| 17:10.22 | supernovia | and all the vhosts point out but the main site is still there.. |
| 17:10.25 | SunSparc | mgeary: I just put up a default page on the primary host to make it pretty or something useful. |
| 17:10.36 | mgeary | that's what i do |
| 17:10.47 | mgeary | i'd just prefer to eliminate it entirely if possible |
| 17:10.56 | mgeary | i guess i could set it's address at 127.0.0.1.... |
| 17:11.01 | SunSparc | mgeary: why? |
| 17:11.12 | macnewbold | mgeary: no matter what you do, any vhost not found will end up going to that first virt host entry, whatever it is |
| 17:11.30 | mgeary | yeah |
| 17:11.38 | supernovia | could you just point it back at your main site? |
| 17:11.41 | macnewbold | i.e. if they access it by IP address, instead of giving a name, the nameVirtHost won't work |
| 17:11.50 | supernovia | ah. |
| 17:12.01 | supernovia | I was wonderng how you were going to change the IP of it .hmm |
| 17:12.06 | macnewbold | supernovia: that's what we do on our servers - the "default" is a redirect to www.codegreene.com |
| 17:12.19 | supernovia | there you go. |
| 17:12.42 | macnewbold | of course, some of ours aren't strictly namevirthosts, they are IP virt hosts too for doing SSL |
| 17:12.48 | macnewbold | so IP on those knows where to go |
| 17:13.20 | supernovia | right |
| 17:15.17 | supernovia | sometimes I feel silly having done hosting for all these years, but since it's with whm I still only know what I know, if you know what I mean... |
| 17:15.40 | mgeary | better that than not knowing what you don't know |
| 17:16.08 | supernovia | yeah, I've been there too and it kinda sucks (mild amnesia) |
| 17:16.15 | mgeary | really |
| 17:16.24 | supernovia | it really does, yeah |
| 17:16.30 | mgeary | how'd that happen? |
| 17:16.47 | supernovia | marching band story! |
| 17:17.04 | mgeary | you got beaned from the back by a trombone? |
| 17:17.07 | supernovia | basically I was playing this horn solo and some rifle-weilding girls were circling around me |
| 17:17.17 | supernovia | one of them got me in the back of the head, t-ball style |
| 17:17.24 | mgeary | jeeze |
| 17:18.12 | supernovia | yeah, well I remembered my name and birthday so they figured I was fine |
| 17:18.28 | supernovia | but the next day I couldn't figure out which grade I was in, etc. |
| 17:18.33 | mgeary | but you forgot that night in Paris. With the moon, and the river.... |
| 17:18.41 | supernovia | I must have! |
| 17:18.53 | utahcon | I have no excuse for my lack of memory. |
| 17:18.58 | utahcon | I just don't remember things |
| 17:19.27 | supernovia | my kids stole my brain cells. |
| 17:19.44 | supernovia | I don't blame my current memory issues on the marching band incident. just on the kids ya know. |
| 17:19.52 | unum | you mind starts going downhill at 27 |
| 17:20.02 | mgeary | my grandma always says i got my smarts from her... 'cause she sure doesn't have them anymore... |
| 17:20.23 | supernovia | hehe |
| 17:20.37 | supernovia | unum, mine started going downhill at 22. It's the kids, I tell ya |
| 17:20.39 | brasto | ~nickometer d000d3 |
| 17:21.24 | brasto | ~lame |
| 17:21.44 | brasto | ~lame someone |
| 17:21.45 | jbot | someone is completely not lame. |
| 17:22.01 | brasto | ~lame d000d3 |
| 17:22.02 | jbot | Ugh, d000d3's aura of lame is affecting me! |
| 17:22.07 | supernovia | I have to get out of the habit of saying lame. |
| 17:22.53 | mgeary | ~literal lame |
| 17:23.54 | supernovia | I met a kindred spirit a few weeks back and feel really awful if the word 'lame' escapes my lips around her |
| 17:24.09 | supernovia | since her feet are screwed up |
| 17:24.28 | SunSparc | My mind avoids hills and instead soars over them in a spacecraft. |
| 17:24.59 | supernovia | woo woo! that totally beats out the greyhound station in my mind, the one that takes my thoughts to far off destinations |
| 17:26.16 | SunSparc | I do my best to not employ limiting paradigms. |
| 17:26.36 | SunSparc | :) |
| 17:31.52 | supernovia | you know how twitter displays the fail whale every once in a while? |
| 17:32.17 | supernovia | is there a way for a vhost to do something like that if they're reaching a threshold? I've got a client who has a flood of traffic, he's having to move to a vps |
| 17:33.21 | SunSparc | I am sure a server could be configured to do that :) |
| 17:33.28 | brasto | josephscott: when using the wordpress automatic upgrade feature, is it asking for localhost user name and password, and the domain on which you have wordpress installed for the hostname? |
| 17:34.01 | josephscott | brasto: that uses FTP by default I believe |
| 17:34.22 | brasto | i set it to sftp so it doesn't send my password in clear text |
| 17:34.30 | brasto | but it's not working |
| 17:34.48 | josephscott | I think you have to have libssh installed for that to work |
| 17:35.28 | supernovia | SunSparc, I'm not even sure if I understand what they're doing exactly |
| 17:35.56 | supernovia | or how they're doing it I mean |
| 17:36.22 | fungus | supernovia: generally you need a separate server for that. and your load balancer "fails over" to the fail whale server in case of problems. |
| 17:36.43 | fungus | Well at least that's probably how twitter does it anyway |
| 17:36.49 | supernovia | that's probably how they do t, yeah |
| 17:36.55 | supernovia | I'm wondering if there's a way to do it for vhosts though |
| 17:36.56 | brasto | k, i tried with ftp as well, and still can't connect to the server josephscott |
| 17:37.23 | supernovia | like if their avg cpu usage goes over ____ then display a page somewhat like that. would be cool. |
| 17:37.26 | josephscott | can you connect with a regular ftp client using the username/password/host you using in the config? |
| 17:37.59 | brasto | I know I can just wget, tar -xf, and cp -rf, but thought I'd try out this auto upgrade since it might be faster |
| 17:38.08 | fungus | That would be cool, perhaps there is a 3rd party apache mod for it |
| 17:38.23 | josephscott | brasto: sftp support requires ssh2 PHP extension, which requires libssh (see http://codex.wordpress.org/Version_2.7) |
| 17:39.43 | brasto | yes, i can ftp to the server using those credentials |
| 17:39.53 | brasto | it's just a new wordpress install |
| 17:40.05 | brasto | it's at http://terryssignsanddesigns.com |
| 17:40.14 | macnewbold | supernovia: to know avg cpu usage for a vhost, you'd have to have it in some kind of vps - vhosts all run in the same machine, and cpu usage isn't tracked separately |
| 17:41.20 | brasto | so, I put host: terryssignsanddesigns.com |
| 17:41.34 | supernovia | I wish I knew enough to really rock at this. There's cpu monitor that parses out average useage. guess that wouldn't work real time though when the problem is happening. |
| 17:41.50 | brasto | what's odd, josephscott, is that when I put that, it replaces it with terryssignsanddesigns.com://terryssignsanddesigns.com |
| 17:42.18 | brasto | what's up with that? |
| 17:42.47 | josephscott | not sure |
| 17:43.12 | mgeary | check your serverName directive |
| 17:44.06 | josephscott | brasto: perhaps it's expecting it to be in the form of ftp://example.com |
| 17:44.33 | josephscott | brasto: you can also try it this way: http://cubegames.net/blog/2008/04/07/wordpress-automatic-upgrade-tip/ |
| 17:45.43 | brasto | I tried it with both ftp:// in front and http:// in front without success. I'll look at that URL now. |
| 17:46.54 | supernovia | usage. goodness. |
| 17:54.10 | itimber | hey guys.... I've got an amr file I need to pull into Audacity... anyone know how to convert or import that? |
| 17:56.03 | mindjuju | itimber - haven't used it - http://www.amrplayer.com/ |
| 17:56.31 | mindjuju | my understanding is though, that it'll let you convert to wav |
| 17:56.35 | mindjuju | and possibly other formats |
| 17:56.43 | dataw0lf | http://www.miksoft.net/mobileMediaConverter.htm |
| 17:57.28 | supernovia | neat. |
| 18:07.42 | Dezertol | just for the record.. I really hate .net and ms sql server |
| 18:08.04 | Dezertol | it's not enough to be the "admin" group |
| 18:08.16 | Dezertol | you have to be in every group also |
| 18:08.59 | macnewbold | eww |
| 18:09.16 | Dezertol | ya.. I'm in the admin group |
| 18:09.19 | Dezertol | but I can't debug |
| 18:09.28 | Dezertol | and I can't create users in the sql server |
| 18:09.45 | Dezertol | aparently.. "admin" doesn't actually mean anything |
| 18:09.53 | Dezertol | cuz I can't even add my self to the ther groups |
| 18:10.08 | mindjuju | wait wait |
| 18:10.13 | mindjuju | where are you trying to add the users? |
| 18:10.25 | mindjuju | through active directory or through ms sql manager |
| 18:10.28 | Dezertol | on the db it's self |
| 18:10.30 | mindjuju | and what ver of ms sql |
| 18:10.34 | Dezertol | not "windows auth" |
| 18:11.14 | Dezertol | under security -> logins |
| 18:11.23 | Dezertol | in the management studio |
| 18:11.38 | Dezertol | tells me I don't have premisison |
| 18:11.43 | Dezertol | cuz i'm not the "admin" user |
| 18:11.44 | Dezertol | lol |
| 18:11.57 | Dezertol | cough... pos.. cough |
| 18:13.13 | Dezertol | even better is that I'm trying to set this up on a vm copy of the quickbooks server |
| 18:13.26 | Dezertol | cuz I can't license my dev box with out jacking up the licenses |
| 18:13.48 | Dezertol | so... it's like a hack to hack yet another hack |
| 18:13.49 | Dezertol | lol |
| 18:14.17 | Dezertol | reminds me of that story about the guy that built his house upon the sand |
| 18:15.29 | utahcon | Gizmodo makes me laugh... http://i.gizmodo.com/5175346/spacebat-tribute-video-will-make-you-cry-like-we-are-the-world |
| 18:19.51 | mindjuju | utahcon - reminds me of this of Shawshank redemption 80s style - http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/13287847bb/awesome-80s-montage-shawshank-from-eric-appel |
| 18:22.39 | PoeticIntensity | utahcon, I'm crying I'm laughing so hard... |
| 18:22.43 | PoeticIntensity | that link was awesome... |
| 18:22.51 | PoeticIntensity | ahhhhhhwesome. |
| 18:23.18 | PoeticIntensity | amazing what geeks will do with a happenstance bat getting incinerated on the shuttle. |
| 18:23.29 | PoeticIntensity | oh man... |
| 18:23.33 | PoeticIntensity | kthxbye |
| 18:35.26 | supernovia | wow |
| 18:36.41 | supernovia | er, crosses that off as a cool way to go , anyway |
| 18:38.00 | Dezertol | lol |
| 18:38.22 | Dezertol | wouldn't that be "anywhere" |
| 18:40.21 | DexterTheDragon | ~lol |
| 18:40.21 | jbot | hmm... lol is stands for Laughs Out Loud. It is grammatically incorrect to use LOL in the first person; use 'heh' or 'haha' instead. If you want to use LOL, do '/me lol' instead. |
| 18:43.46 | mindjuju | i only use lol in the 3rd person present perfect |
| 18:45.18 | mindjuju | :) |
| 18:45.33 | Dezertol | to many years of regular im and mmo's |
| 18:45.48 | Dezertol | doesn't even dawn on me to /me it |
| 18:47.01 | macnewbold | fwiw, I think jbot has been taught somewhat incorrectly what lol means. IMHO, lol can also mean "laughing out loud" making "lol" correct, perhaps more correct (or at least more common) than "/me lol" |
| 18:47.32 | mindjuju | true |
| 18:47.43 | utahcon | Who taught jbot what lol means? |
| 18:47.52 | utahcon | ~lart job's Owner |
| 18:47.52 | jbot | whacks job's Owner upside the head |
| 18:47.59 | macnewbold | I think lol us usable in the same situations as rotfl, lmao, or the almighty roftlmao |
| 18:48.05 | utahcon | typing is hard |
| 18:48.19 | macnewbold | ~lart utahcon |
| 18:48.19 | jbot | chops utahcon in half with a free Solaris 7 CD |
| 18:48.29 | Dezertol | lol |
| 18:48.33 | macnewbold | ~lol |
| 18:48.34 | jbot | methinks lol is stands for Laughing Out Loud. It is grammatically incorrect to use LOL in the first person; use 'heh' or 'haha' instead. If you want to use LOL, do '/me lol' instead. |
| 18:48.35 | utahcon | roftlmao - rolling on floor to laugh my a$$ off |
| 18:48.57 | utahcon | typing is hard |
| 18:49.09 | macnewbold | ~rotflmao |
| 18:49.13 | Dezertol | but.. has anyone actually rolled on the floor and laughed there a$$ off |
| 18:49.29 | utahcon | unfortunately my a$$ is still there |
| 18:49.31 | Dezertol | I don't konw anyone that has |
| 18:49.35 | macnewbold | apparently so, I've seen the tshirt, post-floor-rolling, with it definitely off |
| 18:49.46 | Dezertol | but have you actually laughed so hard that you found your self rolling on the floor |
| 18:49.53 | macnewbold | you could market lmao as a new exercise program, perhaps |
| 18:49.56 | Dezertol | usually I can at least retain a sitting or standing position |
| 18:50.02 | Dezertol | lol |
| 18:50.05 | macnewbold | ~lol |
| 18:50.06 | jbot | it has been said that lol is stands for Laughs Out Loud. It is grammatically incorrect to use LOL in the first person; use 'heh' or 'haha' instead. If you want to use LOL, do '/me lol' instead. |
| 18:50.08 | Dezertol | failblog.org |
| 18:51.27 | macnewbold | ~failblog.org |
| 18:51.38 | utahcon | http://failblog.org/2009/03/19/breakfast-fail-2/ since when isn't Beer, Wine, and Cheese breakfast? |
| 18:52.18 | dataw0lf | I dunno but you're making me hungry. |
| 18:52.29 | utahcon | f00d |
| 18:52.47 | supernovia | I would eat juice and cheese for breakfast.. mmm |
| 18:53.37 | unum | I can't drink juice until I've eaten something substantal |
| 18:54.06 | unum | can anyone point me in the direction of a good postgres resource usage manual? |
| 18:56.11 | eggyknap | mindjuju: did you say something to me about screen capturing your meetings? |
| 18:56.16 | eggyknap | Or video, or some such? |
| 18:56.44 | mindjuju | yes |
| 18:56.45 | eggyknap | IIRC you mentioned there had been problems in the past sharing such vids because not all screens were sanitized of client info. |
| 18:56.54 | mindjuju | yes |
| 18:57.29 | eggyknap | Sweet... a couple of PostgreSQL user groups have begun sharing vids of their meetings. Provided you / whoever else is involved doesn't mind, I'd like to share this one w/ 'em. |
| 18:57.54 | mindjuju | sure |
| 18:58.00 | macnewbold | that should be fine eggyknap, as long as you give equal time to MySQL as well |
| 18:58.09 | macnewbold | and in a good way. trash talkin doesn't count. |
| 18:58.51 | eggyknap | I only trash MySQL when I have good reason :) |
| 18:59.08 | eggyknap | When presenting for a non-PG audience, I try to remain dbms-neutral insofar as I can. |
| 19:00.09 | macnewbold | awesome |
| 19:00.21 | macnewbold | mostly SQL==SQL, unless one of them is MSSQL |
| 19:00.39 | macnewbold | don't worry, the meeting will be safe, even if it is mostly non-PG |
| 19:01.25 | supernovia | Thanks macnewbold, if you say so, my mind is at ease. |
| 19:01.37 | eggyknap | Although I don't expect to spend time on PG-specific stuff tonight, I'd still like to let the PG world know there's another db-related user group vid they can browse if they'd like. |
| 19:05.35 | unum | I have a page that hangs every other time |
| 19:05.41 | unum | I can't figure it out. |
| 19:06.03 | unum | I think there may be a resource limit issue, but I don't know weather to check postgres,php, or apache |
| 19:11.14 | supernovia | gahhhhhhh |
| 19:11.18 | macnewbold | unum: you might try putting some calls to error_log() in your script so that you can see where it is hanging up |
| 19:11.27 | supernovia | just had one of those moments where I -finally- figured out what someone did to mess things up |
| 19:18.51 | supernovia | in this case it's not so much how they messed things up as the fact that I spent more than an hour banging my head against a wall trying to figure out what's wrong. And I wouldn't have if I weren't so darn stupid sometimes. |
| 19:21.40 | supernovia | they'd just set up their cart registration form with the contact email address as an extra field |
| 19:22.02 | supernovia | and I didn't realize that, and had been working on why their system isn't sending out emails on registration, etc. |
| 19:23.24 | supernovia | of course their cart isn't set up to send email to the 'extra field' value ... |
| 19:23.48 | supernovia | anyway, glad to have resolved it, now I just have to copy the 'extra field' data over to the real contact info table, then we'll be good to go. |
| 19:24.38 | unum | macnewbold: thanks |
| 19:24.58 | supernovia | sorry to have interrupted unum |
| 19:29.21 | PoeticIntensity | t'is one of the finer things in life, it is... |
| 19:29.31 | PoeticIntensity | so, technically speaking, ROFL, is quite relevant. |
| 19:29.55 | PoeticIntensity | LMAO can't quite make the same claim. |
| 19:30.23 | PoeticIntensity | man..... |
| 19:30.48 | PoeticIntensity | So... here's the question (which really can't be answered by anyone other than me) but... I'll post it for conversation's sake. |
| 19:31.20 | PoeticIntensity | 1. Do I quit my job in order to stay professionally employed using open source tools, even though there's a high chance it will mean taking a pay cut? |
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| 19:32.01 | PoeticIntensity | 2. Do I stay employed where I currently am, because I like working here very much, while being forced to learn C# and .NET within a M$ environment. |
| 19:32.03 | supernovia | as opposed to? |
| 19:32.04 | supernovia | oh. |
| 19:32.41 | PoeticIntensity | I'm 100% guaranteed a job if I stay here and do as I'm told...... |
| 19:32.46 | PoeticIntensity | but .... gah.... |
| 19:32.54 | supernovia | you said "in order to stay professionally employed using open source tools" |
| 19:32.59 | PoeticIntensity | makes me wanna vomit.... |
| 19:33.01 | PoeticIntensity | yes |
| 19:33.06 | unum | is .net one of the requirements? |
| 19:33.11 | PoeticIntensity | yes. |
| 19:33.16 | PoeticIntensity | as is C# |
| 19:33.21 | supernovia | is your job switching over or do you have other employment? didn't quite get that |
| 19:33.32 | PoeticIntensity | we're being merged. |
| 19:33.36 | supernovia | Ah. |
| 19:33.41 | PoeticIntensity | and the other company's dev shop got the bid. |
| 19:33.57 | PoeticIntensity | and they're 100% willing to hire me (let me stay here) if I learn their code / framework / etc... |
| 19:34.01 | PoeticIntensity | which is 100% M$ |
| 19:34.06 | supernovia | so hows about option 3 |
| 19:34.07 | PoeticIntensity | (.NET, C#, and MSSQL) |
| 19:34.13 | PoeticIntensity | put a gun to my head? |
| 19:34.17 | supernovia | where you find a job using open source tools that pays as much or more than you're making now? |
| 19:34.19 | PoeticIntensity | eh... thought about it... |
| 19:34.30 | PoeticIntensity | supernovia, that, my friend, would be glorious. |
| 19:34.49 | PoeticIntensity | I've not been one for company loyalty, but where I am right now is, without question, the exception. |
| 19:34.56 | supernovia | and while you're looking you can learn more about the tools of the dark side |
| 19:35.01 | PoeticIntensity | oh yes... |
| 19:35.11 | supernovia | in order to defeat them .. :-) |
| 19:35.15 | PoeticIntensity | I'm planning on letting them pay for my training, because it can only do me good. |
| 19:35.42 | PoeticIntensity | whether or not I'll be able to gut the actual usage of the tools is quite different. |
| 19:35.53 | mindjuju | hmmm |
| 19:35.55 | PoeticIntensity | ugh.... |
| 19:36.02 | jsmith | PoeticIntensity: There's nothing wrong with giving it a shot, and if you still don't like it after a while, move on to something else |
| 19:36.07 | PoeticIntensity | if Nature's Way hadn't treated me so - darned - good... |
| 19:36.07 | supernovia | but really all you have to do s learn how to use them right? |
| 19:36.09 | PoeticIntensity | this would be easy. |
| 19:36.10 | supernovia | ad it'll be good for you |
| 19:36.11 | jsmith | PoeticIntensity: At least that way, you've had the experience |
| 19:36.18 | PoeticIntensity | jsmith, great advice. |
| 19:36.21 | PoeticIntensity | precisly. |
| 19:36.28 | mindjuju | not sure its a good idea to entertain training when you're considering bailing |
| 19:36.42 | PoeticIntensity | mindjuju, they know they're taking that risk... |
| 19:36.47 | jsmith | mindjuju: How can you make that kind of a decision without knowing what you'd be getting into |
| 19:36.50 | PoeticIntensity | for all they know, I'm not capable of learning it... |
| 19:36.53 | PoeticIntensity | it's a risk, either way. |
| 19:36.55 | supernovia | and then you can be looking for work more along your open source ideals while you're at it |
| 19:37.00 | supernovia | oh come on, you can learn it. |
| 19:37.11 | PoeticIntensity | supernovia, I know I can... But *they* don't. |
| 19:37.14 | mindjuju | jsmith, training is expensive |
| 19:37.22 | PoeticIntensity | mindjuju, yes... it'll be costly for them. |
| 19:37.23 | mindjuju | if he's having second thoughts like he is... |
| 19:37.26 | jsmith | mindjuju: Aye... so is stupidity... |
| 19:37.27 | PoeticIntensity | but it's just a business risk. |
| 19:37.42 | jsmith | mindjuju: (You forget -- my title is "Training Manager" -- I know how much training costs) |
| 19:37.50 | supernovia | they'd have to hire someone and train them in their ways anyway wouldn't they? |
| 19:37.50 | PoeticIntensity | if they were concerned about it, they'd just fire me, and hire someone who already knows the stuff. |
| 19:37.51 | mindjuju | yeah, i know you're a training manager |
| 19:38.01 | mindjuju | and some may consider it a "business risk" |
| 19:38.05 | mindjuju | well, nm |
| 19:38.07 | mindjuju | it's all good |
| 19:38.19 | PoeticIntensity | no, mindjuju, this is good... |
| 19:38.21 | supernovia | not so much train them how to use .net but get them oriented with everything .. hiring costs too |
| 19:38.34 | PoeticIntensity | supernovia, yes... but it wouldn't cost near as much as it will be training me. |
| 19:38.44 | PoeticIntensity | I stopped using windows at all about 5 years ago. |
| 19:39.01 | jsmith | mindjuju: Please understand... I'm not saying "Just stick around for the training on their dime, and then leave." |
| 19:39.10 | jsmith | mindjuju: That would be borderline dishonest |
| 19:39.14 | PoeticIntensity | So, it'll be a stretch to get me up to speed, when considering how much another programmer would save them. |
| 19:39.16 | supernovia | that would be |
| 19:39.16 | jsmith | mindjuju: (or at least unethical) |
| 19:39.45 | PoeticIntensity | jsmith, mindjuju, - If I was "planning" on leaving, I would consider myself dishonest... |
| 19:39.46 | supernovia | but you can be looking for other work but giving .net an honest go at the same time |
| 19:39.55 | PoeticIntensity | supernovia, precisely. |
| 19:40.07 | jsmith | mindjuju: I'm saying "Give the new job a shot, wrap your head around it, and then make the decision. Don't be afraid to try something new, but once you've had a good hard look at it, don't be afraid to let go." |
| 19:40.08 | PoeticIntensity | For all I know, it'll be better than what I'm doing now (perish the thought)... |
| 19:40.18 | jsmith | It might be! |
| 19:40.20 | supernovia | if you're really worried that you wouldn't be able to find greater than or equal to pay |
| 19:40.23 | PoeticIntensity | jsmith, I couldn't have said it better. |
| 19:40.29 | jsmith | (I never thought I'd like being a training manager) |
| 19:40.32 | PoeticIntensity | supernovia, that's my main concern. |
| 19:40.35 | mindjuju | jsmith, i agree with that sentiment |
| 19:40.42 | PoeticIntensity | Where I am now is treating me, ahem, *very* well. |
| 19:40.50 | supernovia | lucky :) |
| 19:40.55 | PoeticIntensity | very blessed, I'd say. |
| 19:40.55 | jsmith | PoeticIntensity: That's a luxury these days... |
| 19:41.00 | PoeticIntensity | jsmith, no joke... |
| 19:41.07 | PoeticIntensity | which is precisely why this is such a tough decision. |
| 19:41.12 | fungus | PoeticIntensity: mergers and buyouts have a funny way of changing company dynamics. It might not stay so good in the long run. |
| 19:41.25 | PoeticIntensity | like I said... if it was *only* the money, I wouldn't have a hard time jumping ship and finding something else. |
| 19:41.26 | supernovia | so just give it your best shot to learn the new stuff while keeping the options open in case the dream job comes along. not like you're married to them |
| 19:41.34 | PoeticIntensity | fungus, too true. |
| 19:41.36 | jsmith | fungus: Very good point... |
| 19:41.36 | fungus | But trying it out for a while won't kill you for sure. |
| 19:41.38 | supernovia | agreed fungus |
| 19:41.42 | PoeticIntensity | supernovia, agreed. |
| 19:41.57 | PoeticIntensity | fungus, not only will it not kill me, it'll only make me that much more of a well-rounded programmer. |
| 19:42.06 | PoeticIntensity | even if I decide .NET isn't for me. |
| 19:42.19 | supernovia | just don't get stuck in a rut in the long run :-) |
| 19:42.28 | supernovia | ruts do not fine programmers make |
| 19:42.35 | fungus | Right, maybe you can learn some new programming techniques you could bring to your PHP stuff. |
| 19:42.44 | fungus | programming is programming, is it not? |
| 19:43.25 | fungus | But your sanity in the long run is important too, if it gets too bad then you bail. |
| 19:43.26 | supernovia | feeling better then? |
| 19:43.40 | PoeticIntensity | very much so, thanks, guys (and gal) |
| 19:43.46 | supernovia | np :) |
| 19:44.01 | PoeticIntensity | that's pretty much what I was deciding, but it helps to have smart people corroborate a decision. |
| 19:44.11 | PoeticIntensity | still... |
| 19:44.12 | supernovia | indeed |
| 19:44.13 | fungus | yes it really does. |
| 19:44.33 | PoeticIntensity | having spent SOOOO much time bashing M$, and loving it, can't help that I'm eating some serious crow being forced to learn and use it. |
| 19:44.40 | supernovia | altough after aforementioned incident I think I've jinxed myself out of the smart people group for a while |
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| 19:45.00 | PoeticIntensity | supernovia, nah... |
| 19:45.08 | supernovia | trust me. |
| 19:45.15 | PoeticIntensity | any woman who gets herself into programming can't be anything but smart. |
| 19:45.15 | PoeticIntensity | :) |
| 19:45.37 | supernovia | but I wouldn't consider myself a programmer. |
| 19:45.41 | PoeticIntensity | oh? |
| 19:45.46 | fungus | Just keep an eye out for opportunities while keeping a positive attitude looking for new programming techniques. |
| 19:45.48 | PoeticIntensity | been lurking here awhile... |
| 19:45.52 | PoeticIntensity | seems like you might cut the mustard. |
| 19:46.00 | PoeticIntensity | fungus, aye-aye captain. |
| 19:46.24 | supernovia | I'm realizing more and more than some people's minds just operate differently. I'm a creative type. |
| 19:46.29 | PoeticIntensity | I learned long ago that 90% (if not higher) of all companies couldn't care less about their IT employees... So "keeping an eye out" has been my MO since I started in this field. |
| 19:46.49 | PoeticIntensity | supernovia, I'm very much in the same boat... |
| 19:47.00 | PoeticIntensity | I couldn't wrap my head around calculus at all... |
| 19:47.02 | supernovia | but I have to understand this stuff to function, even if I understand it at a lesser, slower level. |
| 19:47.06 | PoeticIntensity | yet, I love programming tons. |
| 19:47.12 | PoeticIntensity | so... in my spare time, I'm a musician.. |
| 19:47.24 | utahcon | in my spare time I am a programmer. |
| 19:47.26 | PoeticIntensity | keeps my creative side sane, while dealing with all the left-brained stuff of the daily grind. |
| 19:47.40 | supernovia | music bridges the two worlds quite well doesn't it? |
| 19:47.52 | PoeticIntensity | very, very much so. |
| 19:48.00 | PoeticIntensity | www.mimicrocks.com |
| 19:48.04 | PoeticIntensity | that's a band I'm in.... |
| 19:48.13 | PoeticIntensity | trying to get into the Utah Cover-band top-40 scene. |
| 19:48.15 | fungus | I'm so not creative you might consider it a handicap. :( |
| 19:48.16 | supernovia | cool :-) |
| 19:48.23 | PoeticIntensity | hehe... |
| 19:48.31 | PoeticIntensity | fungus, you are definitely on the other side of the fence. |
| 19:48.41 | supernovia | well, I -think- my greatest value is in being creative but still 'getting' the technical side |
| 19:48.41 | PoeticIntensity | people like you make people like me wish I were a real programmer. |
| 19:49.01 | supernovia | even if I sortof suck at it |
| 19:49.06 | PoeticIntensity | supernovia, mind if I ask what you do for work? |
| 19:49.20 | supernovia | currently = web hosting for a small company |
| 19:49.47 | supernovia | and because it's small that means I do all kinds of stuff |
| 19:49.48 | PoeticIntensity | (for those of you who went to mimic's site, I wouldn't mind any critiques on the music / site / etc.... I know it's not done (photos / videos / mailing list), but I'd love some feedback) |
| 19:49.58 | PoeticIntensity | I see. |
| 19:50.19 | utahcon | PoeticIntensity: link? |
| 19:50.24 | utahcon | sorry missed it while I was out |
| 19:50.26 | PoeticIntensity | http://www.mimicrocks.com |
| 19:50.59 | supernovia | while I eat a non-raw lunch (need a break every now and then) |
| 19:52.29 | supernovia | so PoeticIntensity do you sing or play the guitar? |
| 19:52.38 | supernovia | or something else or both |
| 19:52.41 | PoeticIntensity | hehe... |
| 19:52.43 | PoeticIntensity | I'm the drummer. |
| 19:52.49 | PoeticIntensity | and the engineer. |
| 19:52.49 | supernovia | there ya go :) |
| 19:52.56 | PoeticIntensity | back-up vocals, too. |
| 19:53.06 | supernovia | I uh, sing in the ward choir. |
| 19:53.13 | PoeticIntensity | nice! |
| 19:53.15 | PoeticIntensity | me too. |
| 19:53.29 | supernovia | only my cool director quit and now we mainly sing Janice Kapp |
| 19:53.40 | PoeticIntensity | ah.... |
| 19:53.42 | supernovia | which is OK. just .. not as fun. |
| 19:53.46 | PoeticIntensity | well... ya take what you can get. |
| 19:53.53 | supernovia | exactly |
| 19:54.58 | PoeticIntensity | actually there's a group of LDS musicians... |
| 19:55.08 | supernovia | I'm sure there are a few |
| 19:55.08 | PoeticIntensity | quite a few mom's who are singer / songwriters... |
| 19:55.16 | supernovia | but moms in a band ya know? |
| 19:55.16 | PoeticIntensity | www.ldsmusicians.com |
| 19:55.20 | PoeticIntensity | kind of out-dated, but... |
| 19:55.22 | PoeticIntensity | hehe... |
| 19:55.29 | supernovia | seems like it wouldn't work that well with school and life and everything. |
| 19:55.33 | PoeticIntensity | a full-on band, that'd be - entertaining.... in a very good way. |
| 19:55.34 | PoeticIntensity | right. |
| 19:55.47 | supernovia | unless it's the likes of Lori Berkner |
| 19:57.06 | PoeticIntensity | oh yeah. |
| 19:57.50 | supernovia | would be fun :) |
| 19:58.08 | Dezertol | voicemale is lds |
| 19:58.22 | PoeticIntensity | yup... They're awesome. |
| 19:58.39 | Dezertol | my bro in law was one of the org members |
| 19:58.39 | supernovia | does your band write anything original? |
| 19:58.45 | jsmith | Dezertol: Really? |
| 19:58.46 | Dezertol | he still get's cds and tickets for free |
| 19:58.56 | PoeticIntensity | dude.... Voicemale is awesome... |
| 19:58.58 | supernovia | cool :) |
| 19:59.03 | PoeticIntensity | and supernovia, no.. we don't, but I have. |
| 19:59.07 | PoeticIntensity | me too. |
| 19:59.14 | PoeticIntensity | http://www.ilovemyjournal.com/?action=view_entry&eid=4336 |
| 19:59.15 | jsmith | In fact, that's what I'm listening to right now! |
| 19:59.17 | PoeticIntensity | there's my latest. |
| 19:59.37 | Dezertol | I have to be in the mood |
| 19:59.40 | PoeticIntensity | jsmith, what's your fav acapella group? |
| 19:59.48 | Dezertol | mostly i'm listening to something techo/industral |
| 20:00.05 | Dezertol | fast and dark |
| 20:00.06 | Dezertol | lol |
| 20:01.12 | jsmith | PoeticIntensity: Oh boy... there are so many... My favorite albums are the BOCA ones (Best of College Acappella) |
| 20:01.25 | PoeticIntensity | interesting... |
| 20:01.30 | PoeticIntensity | are any of those online? |
| 20:01.33 | PoeticIntensity | or any snippets? |
| 20:01.47 | jsmith | PoeticIntensity: Sure... they're on iTunes, or other places |
| 20:01.55 | PoeticIntensity | gotcha. |
| 20:01.58 | thebigdog | http://finance.yahoo.com/news/13-firms-receiving-federal-apf-14693501.html |
| 20:02.00 | supernovia | anyone know the swingle singers? I'm thinking of buying a cd & need to figure out which one :) |
| 20:02.02 | thebigdog | nice article |
| 20:02.29 | supernovia | nice thebigdog |
| 20:03.28 | jsmith | PoeticIntensity: a-cappella.com has the biggest selection, but not as many samples |
| 20:03.49 | unum | it seems to freeze on this line: echo "\t\t<td><input type='text' value='".$study['start']."' class='study_$x' id='sign_in_".$study['cfmclog03_index']."'></td>\n"; |
| 20:03.54 | PoeticIntensity | thebigdog, .... *sigh* ... why doesn't that surprise me... |
| 20:04.09 | unum | it's in a loop in runs that line dozens of times before freezing |
| 20:04.56 | thebigdog | PoeticIntensity, yeah it is very scary...and they passed the bill to change the taxes on bonus for those aig bonus to be taxed at 90% |
| 20:05.27 | PoeticIntensity | ugh... more laws... with more loopholes... kind of makes me ill. |
| 20:05.53 | supernovia | good times. |
| 20:06.05 | supernovia | (are a thing of the past!) |
| 20:06.07 | supernovia | :-p |
| 20:06.14 | jsmith | unum: Are you running out of memory? Checked your memory limit in php.ini? Running out of time? Checked your time limit in php.ini? |
| 20:06.26 | PoeticIntensity | the more I learn about politics and the general greed and dishonesty of people - the more I wanna become a hermit. |
| 20:06.30 | unum | jsmith: ya. those don't seem to be issues |
| 20:06.36 | unum | it doesn't stop. |
| 20:06.38 | unum | it hangs |
| 20:06.50 | unum | until the apache timeout limit passes |
| 20:07.08 | unum | and then it runs again for a few seconds |
| 20:07.13 | jsmith | Anything in the apache logs? |
| 20:07.19 | unum | nothing |
| 20:07.24 | jsmith | Tried using strace to connect to the process? |
| 20:07.37 | unum | no I haven't tried that |
| 20:09.15 | jsmith | PoeticIntensity: One of my other favorite groups is the Virginia Gentlemen |
| 20:09.26 | jsmith | PoeticIntensity: I think you'll like 'em |
| 20:09.35 | PoeticIntensity | jsmith, what do you think about barbershop? |
| 20:10.22 | unum | it polls? |
| 20:10.26 | unum | poll( |
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| 20:34.26 | dataw0lf | haha |
| 20:34.27 | dataw0lf | http://www.bbspot.com/News/2000/6/php_suspend.html |
| 20:36.12 | supernovia | nice dataw0lf :-D |
| 20:36.31 | dataw0lf | because it's TRUE. |
| 20:36.32 | PoeticIntensity | that - is priceless. |
| 20:36.43 | PoeticIntensity | ignorance in action. |
| 20:37.13 | dataw0lf | well it's not true. bbspot is a satire site. |
| 20:37.23 | dataw0lf | but PHP is a drug that ruins many lives, I'll give them that. |
| 20:37.30 | PoeticIntensity | I"m gathering that.... I had only read the first 2 paragraphs. |
| 20:38.43 | supernovia | metroid also seems to be some kind of super drug. |
| 20:39.09 | supernovia | (supernovio is thoroughly enjoying the new home theater setup) |
| 20:39.12 | dataw0lf | naw I actually don't like PHP, Metroid is killer. |
| 20:39.24 | dataw0lf | oooh, new home theater setups ftw. |
| 20:39.55 | dataw0lf | my Xbox just RROD'ed *tear* wireless streaming has been stopped at my house. |
| 20:40.29 | supernovia | so sorry |
| 20:41.29 | dataw0lf | animatrix was excellent. did you see the Dark Knight animated stuff? |
| 20:41.58 | supernovia | (I could only feel the floor below me throbbing and it -felt- like metroid) |
| 20:42.06 | supernovia | didn't, is it good? |
| 20:42.33 | dataw0lf | yea it's really good |
| 20:43.21 | supernovia | will have to check it out sometime |
| 20:43.23 | dataw0lf | http://www.warnervideo.com/batmangothamknight/ |
| 20:44.01 | supernovia | goodness. I am on one today. thinking bat mango WHat? |
| 20:44.26 | PoeticIntensity | attack of the killer bat mangos! |
| 20:45.55 | supernovia | looks cool dataw0lf :) |
| 20:47.37 | jsmith | supernovia: Oh, you're a Simon and Garfunkle fan? :-p |
| 20:47.50 | supernovia | indeed I am! :-) |
| 20:55.23 | mgeary | hey, someone give me the xmisison irc again, please |
| 20:55.40 | supernovia | I'll sing along.. |
| 20:55.52 | brasto | DexterTheDragon: ever seen the mythbusters on fainting goats? |
| 20:56.38 | dataw0lf | mgeary: isn't it... irc.xmission.com ? |
| 20:56.57 | mgeary | i mean their channel there |
| 20:57.00 | DexterTheDragon | #xmlounge |
| 20:57.13 | mgeary | there we go |
| 20:57.14 | mgeary | thanks |
| 20:57.33 | utahcon | DexterTheDragon: nope, but I've seen the Dirty Jobs |
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| 21:05.54 | brasto | utahcon: you've seen a Dirty Jobs episode about fainting goats? |
| 21:06.43 | utahcon | yes |
| 21:07.18 | utahcon | well part of the episode was on them |
| 21:07.21 | utahcon | http://dsc.discovery.com/videos/dirty-jobs-fainting-goats.html |
| 21:11.22 | supernovia | 8-| |
| 21:12.34 | itimber | PoeticIntensity: mimicrocks.com++ |
| 21:13.30 | brasto | yea, i think that's the one I was thinking of |
| 21:13.30 | PoeticIntensity | thanks, itimber :) |
| 21:13.46 | PoeticIntensity | it's comin' along, anyway... |
| 21:14.43 | beandog | Im off to the gas station |
| 21:15.06 | brasto | http://www.dhadm.com/content/mythbusters-fainting-goats/ |
| 21:15.15 | brasto | nope, that's the one that I saw before |
| 21:18.13 | beandog | oh I just found some laffy taffy in my pocket |
| 21:18.15 | beandog | this'll do |
| 21:18.39 | beandog | mmm, strawberry flavored plastic |
| 21:21.18 | PoeticIntensity | hooray petroleum-based edibles! |
| 21:21.45 | itimber | yuck |
| 21:22.18 | brasto | ~give itimber some plastic candy |
| 21:22.18 | jbot | ACTION gives some plastic candy to itimber |
| 21:22.35 | jsmith | PoeticIntensity: That reminds me of an unfortunate episode in college |
| 21:22.58 | PoeticIntensity | uh oh.... |
| 21:24.50 | beandog | I think I should have gone with the cookies |
| 21:25.00 | itimber | who do you have singing Just a Girl? |
| 21:25.58 | itimber | oh... probably Annie.... just a guess |
| 21:27.32 | jsmith | PoeticIntensity: One of our lab assignments in freshman physics was to build a toy vehicle out of vegetables and other edible things... the one that rolled the furthest won |
| 21:27.54 | jsmith | PoeticIntensity: One of my lab partners made the mistake of asking his dad (a pharmacist) what we should use to lube the wheels |
| 21:28.36 | supernovia | tjat |
| 21:28.42 | supernovia | that's a vegetable? |
| 21:29.39 | Dezertol | well.. it's eatable |
| 21:30.22 | supernovia | Gotsya. |
| 21:30.50 | PoeticIntensity | heh... itimber - yes... Annie sings the girlie stuff.. :) |
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| 21:31.23 | PoeticIntensity | jsmith, that's hilarious! |
| 21:31.51 | PoeticIntensity | and thanks for the compliment, itimber. |
| 21:32.54 | supernovia | PoeticIntensity, I'm feeling silly now about the original music question. I'd jumped on and set the playlist and didn't read the site :-p |
| 21:33.39 | PoeticIntensity | oh... original stuff? |
| 21:33.56 | PoeticIntensity | nah... I've been in a few original bands, and I write my own stuff.... but that's separate. |
| 21:34.03 | dataw0lf | I love how when I plug in my iphone to my macbook itunes automatically scrobbles all the songs I've played while using it. |
| 21:34.26 | PoeticIntensity | ~scrobble |
| 21:34.43 | PoeticIntensity | http://www.enzign.com/music/Such_Is_Life_New.mp3 |
| 21:34.53 | PoeticIntensity | That's an mp3 of an original when I was playing with EnZign. |
| 21:35.01 | jsmith | dataw0lf: I hate that, as my wife listens to a bunch of audio books on my iPod, and then it looks like I spend all my time listening to audio books |
| 21:36.54 | dataw0lf | haha. |
| 21:37.11 | itimber | ~audiobooks++ |
| 21:37.13 | dataw0lf | PoeticIntensity: scrobbling is posting your music history to last.fm through their web service |
| 21:38.04 | dataw0lf | jsmith: I'll put my iTunes on party shuffle and so I'll get random Dune chapters all the time, since I have all the books on audiobook, they show up a lot. |
| 21:38.16 | itimber | now called iTunes DJ |
| 21:38.19 | itimber | :) |
| 21:38.20 | supernovia | hehe |
| 21:38.23 | PoeticIntensity | dataw0lf, wow. |
| 21:38.38 | PoeticIntensity | I would think some people wouldn't want that. |
| 21:38.48 | PoeticIntensity | of course, you can probably disable it. |
| 21:39.19 | Dezertol | I bought "Into the wild" on audio book.. |
| 21:39.27 | Dezertol | and of course.. "Snow Crash" |
| 21:39.32 | Dezertol | but that's about it |
| 21:39.47 | dataw0lf | PoeticIntensity: http://last.fm/user/dataw0lf |
| 21:41.05 | jsmith | "Your musical compatibility with dataw0lf is Medium" |
| 21:42.26 | dataw0lf | my music taste is... eclectic, to say the least. |
| 21:43.50 | Dezertol | I listend to gooveSalad on Somafm.com and http://www.technobase.fm/ |
| 21:43.57 | Dezertol | that's about it really |
| 21:44.49 | dataw0lf | I listen to a lot of indie hip-hop, indie rock, and classic rock |
| 21:45.10 | Dezertol | I have a very extensive Primus Collection |
| 21:45.51 | Dezertol | everything else is .. just odds and ends.. |
| 21:46.02 | Dezertol | but the somafm and techobase streams keep me going at work |
| 21:46.13 | Dezertol | minimal lyrics so I dno't get distracted |
| 21:46.47 | Dezertol | that app i'm writing with the 40mil rows.. |
| 21:46.56 | Dezertol | lol i'm download a 250mil row file |
| 21:47.01 | Dezertol | to import |
| 21:47.10 | beandog | I hate skipping lunch |
| 21:47.10 | supernovia | i'm a lyrics person |
| 21:47.24 | dataw0lf | same. can't stand techno |
| 21:47.50 | mindjuju | huh? |
| 21:48.06 | Dezertol | it doesn't have to be Techo.. I jsut have to be fast |
| 21:48.11 | Dezertol | or I start to fall asleep |
| 21:48.12 | Dezertol | lol |
| 21:48.21 | mindjuju | and is trying to figure out the reasonable alternative |
| 21:48.30 | Dezertol | just delete it |
| 21:48.38 | Dezertol | what are you trying to get rid of |
| 21:48.49 | mindjuju | an application / device driver |
| 21:49.14 | Dezertol | hp printer driver? |
| 21:49.14 | Dezertol | lol |
| 21:49.16 | dataw0lf | http://uapp.en.softonic.com/mac |
| 21:49.34 | dataw0lf | generally, though, you just drag the application to the trash from Applications, if it doesn't come with an uninstaller. |
| 21:50.13 | beandog | at least some kind of hash, geez |
| 21:50.13 | Dezertol | you could always go with the good ol' reliable |
| 21:50.20 | beandog | who knows what youre installing. |
| 21:50.38 | Dezertol | find / -type f | grep -i filename | awk '{system("rm -rf " $1)}' |
| 21:50.52 | Dezertol | lol use with care |
| 21:50.57 | beandog | Dezertol, dont say that, some noob will run that |
| 21:51.10 | beandog | DexterTheDragon, you know someone didn't mess with the binary |
| 21:51.13 | Dezertol | I said use with care |
| 21:51.13 | beandog | no MITM attack |
| 21:51.34 | DexterTheDragon | how do I know they didn't just change the md5hash too |
| 21:51.44 | beandog | DexterTheDragon, because if they did, theyd have compromised the root |
| 21:52.13 | beandog | DexterTheDragon, Im talking about, say, foo.com has the original hash ... but download.com has the binary to download too. You'd still get the hash from upstream, and make sure download.com's isn't modified. |
| 21:52.35 | dataw0lf | yea, if the md5 hash has been compromised, you have a lot more to worry about then a rooted binary. |
| 21:52.41 | beandog | heh |
| 21:52.42 | DexterTheDragon | right, but I would only even download from foo.com |
| 21:52.44 | beandog | exactly |
| 21:52.56 | beandog | DexterTheDragon, right, but say foo.com has one app, while download.com has 50000 |
| 21:53.13 | beandog | people are gonna go to download.com to download <random binary> with no assertion that it's the same as upstream's |
| 21:53.37 | beandog | other than basic trust that download.com isn't compromised or putting crap in there. |
| 22:00.39 | _carmony | uggg, I think I'm having race condition issues with my file based cache |
| 22:02.17 | dataw0lf | nom Hawaiian Punch nom |
| 22:02.36 | PoeticIntensity | nom nom nom |
| 22:02.41 | PoeticIntensity | twinkies nom nom |
| 22:03.12 | jsmith | nom nom rice crackers and nuts nom nom... washed down with ginger ale .... gulp gulp |
| 22:03.34 | jsmith | And those wasabi peas... gotta love 'em |
| 22:03.38 | dataw0lf | PoeticIntensity: that's basically what I look like with Hawaiian Punch |
| 22:03.44 | PoeticIntensity | ROFL |
| 22:03.57 | PoeticIntensity | I highly doubt that, dataw0lf |
| 22:04.05 | PoeticIntensity | although the visualization is hilarious. |
| 22:04.41 | beandog | http://www.neatorama.com/2009/03/19/a-tribute-to-space-bat/ |
| 22:05.02 | PoeticIntensity | heh.... you're too late beandog |
| 22:05.06 | PoeticIntensity | already been posted in here. |
| 22:05.14 | beandog | meh |
| 22:05.18 | PoeticIntensity | although it was so funny, it made me cry... |
| 22:05.37 | beandog | :) |
| 22:06.28 | supernovia | it was pretty good beandog |
| 22:07.43 | Dezertol | sea salt and vinegar chips ;-) |
| 22:08.23 | beandog | man, Im almost hungry enough to eat at subway |
| 22:08.23 | supernovia | so I'll nom some water I suppose.. |
| 22:08.51 | Dezertol | lol subway |
| 22:09.01 | beandog | sooooo nasty |
| 22:09.07 | beandog | but its the only thing in a 15 mile radius. |
| 22:09.12 | supernovia | I like subway .. *sniffle* |
| 22:09.20 | jsmith | dataw0lf: Hey, on your way out... mind grabbing a couple gallons of milk? |
| 22:09.21 | supernovia | but gandolfos is better.. |
| 22:09.24 | Dezertol | not if you see what the employess do when no one is looking |
| 22:09.39 | jsmith | supernovia: Naw... Sensuous Sandwiches is even better... |
| 22:09.41 | DexterTheDragon | mindjuju: whats that streaming techno site? |
| 22:09.42 | beandog | like sneeze in the bread? |
| 22:09.49 | supernovia | yum |
| 22:09.57 | beandog | Id like extra mucus, please |
| 22:10.03 | supernovia | never tried sensuous sandwiches. Sounds.. sensuous. |
| 22:10.16 | beandog | sensuous sandwich is the freaking bomb. |
| 22:10.36 | supernovia | googling them .. |
| 22:10.45 | Dezertol | there is an awsome sandwich place on 90th and redwood ish.. called village baker |
| 22:11.02 | beandog | yah that place is really good |
| 22:11.04 | supernovia | http://sensuoussandwich.com/ |
| 22:11.18 | beandog | Watch this space for Sensuous Sandwich Coupons! |
| 22:11.33 | macnewbold | bah |
| 22:12.04 | macnewbold | turns out that the "Joseph" movie I was telling supernovia about stars Ben Kingsley, not Patrick Stewart. |
| 22:12.10 | supernovia | Ah |
| 22:12.10 | macnewbold | he's still really good thoug |
| 22:12.13 | Dezertol | this place is actually pritty good to -> http://www.skoollunch.com/ |
| 22:12.19 | beandog | Patrick Stewart is in Prince of Egypt |
| 22:12.23 | macnewbold | they're right across the street |
| 22:12.48 | beandog | http://www.socupcake.com/ |
| 22:12.52 | beandog | that place is nice |
| 22:13.04 | supernovia | Really? |
| 22:13.23 | beandog | I think theres another cupcake place around here somewhere, too |
| 22:13.28 | Dezertol | this place is also quite good -> http://www.simplythaiutah.com/ |
| 22:13.34 | Dezertol | if you like Thai that is |
| 22:13.49 | macnewbold | Dezertol: where's simply thai? |
| 22:13.52 | supernovia | you were eating a sandwich while you proposed to her? |
| 22:14.03 | Dezertol | it's just off of 106th |
| 22:14.17 | jsmith | supernovia: Crazy, I know... I hid the ring in the can of Pringles (her favorite snack) |
| 22:14.17 | Dezertol | befor you get to state |
| 22:14.31 | dataw0lf | I proposed to my ex-fiance on the way to Jiffy Lube. |
| 22:14.31 | PoeticIntensity | gooooood stuff... |
| 22:14.32 | supernovia | Nicely done |
| 22:14.46 | jsmith | supernovia: We went on a picnic... we're sitting there eating sandwiches.... she opens the chips, and suddenly can't speak |
| 22:14.46 | beandog | maybe Ill just go to cafe rio and scarf down a quesadilla |
| 22:15.04 | jsmith | beandog: Cafe dia? |
| 22:15.04 | Dezertol | dataw0lf ?.. hence the ex? |
| 22:15.15 | mindjuju | jiffy lube? |
| 22:15.20 | dataw0lf | Uh, no. I don't have to be romantic for girls to like me. |
| 22:15.21 | mindjuju | i could see Midas maybe |
| 22:15.23 | jsmith | beandog: as in "Cafe daya rio" |
| 22:15.27 | Dezertol | lol |
| 22:15.27 | dataw0lf | Yup. Jiffy Lube. |
| 22:15.34 | beandog | dataw0lf, how did that one work out |
| 22:15.35 | supernovia | sounds like a great picnic, jsmith. my brother proposed to his wife on a picnic. I botched it. that's a story for another time though |
| 22:15.38 | DexterTheDragon | mindjuju: whats up with ravetrax? |
| 22:15.46 | mindjuju | ravetrax died i think |
| 22:15.47 | Dezertol | lol "ex-fiance" |
| 22:15.52 | Dezertol | is how |
| 22:15.53 | Dezertol | lol |
| 22:15.53 | dataw0lf | I ended the engagement. |
| 22:16.01 | dataw0lf | she was in tears of happiness. |
| 22:16.03 | beandog | while the oil was getting changed? |
| 22:16.06 | dataw0lf | (when I proposed) |
| 22:16.10 | Dezertol | lol |
| 22:16.15 | Dezertol | that's just funny |
| 22:16.16 | dataw0lf | no, I was just like, "so, hey, want to get married, or what?" |
| 22:16.20 | dataw0lf | at a red light. |
| 22:16.31 | PoeticIntensity | LOL |
| 22:16.39 | Dezertol | if your the girl how excatly do you tell that story... |
| 22:16.45 | PoeticIntensity | this room is too funny. |
| 22:16.49 | Dezertol | so.. I was on my way to Jiffy Lube |
| 22:16.52 | mindjuju | dataw0lf, did you have a ring? |
| 22:16.53 | beandog | Dezertol, you just tell them there was lace in the car. |
| 22:16.57 | dataw0lf | well, yea, I had a ring. |
| 22:17.02 | dataw0lf | c'mon now. |
| 22:17.12 | jsmith | dataw0lf: Was it plastic? |
| 22:17.16 | Dezertol | 25 cents in any supper market vendering machine |
| 22:17.17 | dataw0lf | no, it was 3800 dollars. |
| 22:17.18 | PoeticIntensity | ROFL |
| 22:17.33 | jsmith | dayam.... at a stoplight? |
| 22:17.33 | itimber | so, the ring did the talking |
| 22:17.34 | Dezertol | saied "power ranger" on it |
| 22:17.35 | itimber | LOL |
| 22:17.37 | PoeticIntensity | okay, okay... I'm not really ROFL'ing, but hey... it was funny. |
| 22:17.51 | beandog | nothing like love over a corndog. |
| 22:17.57 | jsmith | beandog: Would you like fries with that? |
| 22:18.02 | beandog | er, that didnt sound quite right. |
| 22:18.10 | PoeticIntensity | AHAHHHHH HAHAHAHAHA |
| 22:18.13 | dataw0lf | any girl who would decide to marry someone based upon the way they PROPOSED, is out of their mind |
| 22:18.32 | dataw0lf | so if they can handle the stop-light proposal, they probably, y'know, really love you |
| 22:18.33 | PoeticIntensity | yes.... but it *is* a courtesy to do it nicely.... I would think. |
| 22:18.38 | beandog | did you read that one article about the guy proposing at a wendys |
| 22:18.42 | dataw0lf | which I assume is the whole point. |
| 22:18.44 | beandog | and the girl swallowed the ring in her frosty |
| 22:18.45 | dataw0lf | it was done nicely. |
| 22:18.50 | dataw0lf | I didn't even yell. |
| 22:19.03 | dataw0lf | turned down the radio a little bit, even. |
| 22:19.03 | beandog | did you cry? |
| 22:19.04 | PoeticIntensity | man... I don't know what's wrong with me today.. |
| 22:19.06 | supernovia | I think proposing nicely makes her feel like you care all that much more :) |
| 22:19.15 | Dezertol | did she have to poop into a strainer |
| 22:19.28 | PoeticIntensity | L-M-A-O |
| 22:19.37 | PoeticIntensity | oh.... my. |
| 22:19.44 | PoeticIntensity | that's it. |
| 22:19.45 | dataw0lf | I show I care by going to a job from 8 - 6 and still doing chores. |
| 22:19.46 | PoeticIntensity | I'm done for the day. |
| 22:19.49 | dataw0lf | waiting til 8 to play xbox. |
| 22:19.50 | beandog | Dezertol, do you always take a strainer with you in the car? |
| 22:20.17 | PoeticIntensity | oh, man... that was funny, Dezertol |
| 22:20.18 | Dezertol | only if I plan on swalling rings |
| 22:20.19 | Dezertol | lol |
| 22:20.23 | beandog | lol |
| 22:20.29 | beandog | that is so gross. |
| 22:20.50 | mindjuju | well, that was a cool story dataw0lf |
| 22:20.51 | Dezertol | well.. it's probally a $3000.00 |
| 22:21.00 | Dezertol | ring |
| 22:21.05 | PoeticIntensity | definitely worth straining. |
| 22:21.20 | Dezertol | you wouldn't do a little poop diving for $3000.00 |
| 22:21.23 | beandog | Im not sure Id want it on my finger after that. |
| 22:21.37 | Dezertol | pawn shops are you friend |
| 22:21.44 | beandog | just tell em it was rejected. |
| 22:21.45 | PoeticIntensity | yeah, if ya wanna lose money. |
| 22:21.50 | PoeticIntensity | but yeah. |
| 22:21.54 | PoeticIntensity | better than nothing. |
| 22:21.55 | Dezertol | hopfully lose |
| 22:22.04 | Dezertol | lol eaiser to sift |
| 22:22.16 | beandog | Dezertol knows a bit too much about how to do this |
| 22:22.34 | Dezertol | it's a very logical process |
| 22:22.37 | dataw0lf | personally, I think men have been suckered into this romantic thing by women trying to drain you of your testosterone. |
| 22:22.50 | PoeticIntensity | give 'n' take... |
| 22:23.06 | jsmith | PoeticIntensity: And hopefully a relatively balanced mix of the two |
| 22:23.19 | PoeticIntensity | yup. |
| 22:23.20 | beandog | PoeticIntensity, how did you propose? |
| 22:23.22 | Dezertol | I actually proposed twice to my wife |
| 22:23.25 | dataw0lf | I do little things, like giving foot massages and picking up tampons. |
| 22:23.29 | dataw0lf | That, my friends, is romance. |
| 22:23.31 | Dezertol | once in my lame guy way.. |
| 22:23.36 | Dezertol | and once so that she can tell people |
| 22:23.37 | Dezertol | lol |
| 22:23.43 | beandog | heh, thats awesome |
| 22:23.48 | PoeticIntensity | beandog, took her hiking in the morning before the sunrise, and proposed in Farmington canyon as the sun was rising. |
| 22:24.00 | Dezertol | that's nice |
| 22:24.01 | beandog | PoeticIntensity, hmm, that would have been a bum walk down if she said no |
| 22:24.06 | supernovia | I got 75 roses |
| 22:24.09 | beandog | no? oh well. have a nice trip. |
| 22:24.12 | PoeticIntensity | beandog, she had already moved to Utah. |
| 22:24.17 | PoeticIntensity | she wasn't gonna say no. |
| 22:24.23 | mindjuju | beandog, that's too funny |
| 22:24.39 | beandog | that's a great idea though |
| 22:24.43 | beandog | take em where there's less oxygen |
| 22:24.51 | mindjuju | just take off running and leave her to get down the mountain on her own |
| 22:24.53 | PoeticIntensity | LOL |
| 22:25.01 | PoeticIntensity | oh yeah. |
| 22:25.04 | Dezertol | lol |
| 22:25.08 | PoeticIntensity | supernovia, 75 roses? really? |
| 22:25.11 | PoeticIntensity | daaaaaaang |
| 22:25.26 | Dezertol | It's my GPS and if you dont' say yes you coudl be here a very very long time ;-) |
| 22:25.30 | beandog | supernovia, freak that had to be spendy |
| 22:25.35 | supernovia | not really |
| 22:25.41 | supernovia | he worked for a florist at that time |
| 22:25.48 | dataw0lf | Dezertol: you'd feel really bad if she said screw it and trudged off (in the wrong way) |
| 22:25.49 | beandog | ah okay |
| 22:25.50 | PoeticIntensity | ah.... workin' the favors.... |
| 22:25.57 | dataw0lf | "I'll take my chances with the bears." |
| 22:26.05 | PoeticIntensity | HA HA HA HA |
| 22:26.19 | PoeticIntensity | maybe I should have helicoptered us in... |
| 22:26.23 | dataw0lf | haha |
| 22:26.25 | PoeticIntensity | a bit more at stake. |
| 22:26.31 | Dezertol | but then you could follow her and wait till she was in danger and then rescue her |
| 22:26.37 | dataw0lf | "Grab... my... hand... (if you agree to marry me!)" |
| 22:26.38 | Dezertol | like in crocadile dundiee |
| 22:26.39 | Dezertol | lol |
| 22:26.41 | PoeticIntensity | riiiight. |
| 22:26.41 | supernovia | yeah cause that's -really- how you end up with a wife that loves you to pieces right? |
| 22:26.49 | PoeticIntensity | yes.... |
| 22:26.55 | PoeticIntensity | manipulation is where it's at. |
| 22:27.03 | dataw0lf | removal of the brain stem |
| 22:27.11 | PoeticIntensity | marriage vs. death. |
| 22:27.37 | beandog | By accepting this EULA ... |
| 22:27.42 | mindjuju | saving a damsel in the distress sounds like an awesome way to propose, but like dataw0lf was aying earlier, gots to keep it manly... why not do it seven brides for seven brothers style? |
| 22:28.03 | beandog | mindjuju, heh, toties |
| 22:28.13 | supernovia | lol mindjuju |
| 22:29.16 | dataw0lf | I just hit em over the head with a club and drag em back to my cave |
| 22:29.20 | dataw0lf | Old school, y'know? |
| 22:29.31 | mindjuju | now you're talkin' |
| 22:30.42 | Dezertol | aluminum bat's sound so much cooler tho |
| 22:30.45 | supernovia | except that I have no comment |
| 22:30.48 | Dezertol | ka..ping |
| 22:32.25 | dataw0lf | doesn't my boss have the coolest name? : http://blog.twelvehorses.com/uncategorized/horse-power-58-beryl-love-reno-gazette-journal/ |
| 22:33.11 | unum | the former head of caldera(now head of it for the lds church) has an interesting name |
| 22:33.16 | unum | randsom love |
| 22:33.17 | mindjuju | dataw0lf, you work at twelve horses now? |
| 22:33.27 | dataw0lf | uh, no, they're interviewing the RGJ |
| 22:33.45 | mindjuju | oh, yeah, sorry |
| 22:36.12 | beandog | mindjuju, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_umYYoqaGl4&feature=related |
| 22:40.29 | mindjuju | v cool |
| 22:42.16 | mindjuju | beandog - here is another way cool octopus vid - 100% no rickroll guarantee - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPJKwrocIa4 |
| 22:43.18 | beandog | that thing is ugly |
| 22:43.42 | mindjuju | it's from the 80s |
| 22:44.30 | supernovia | the first video could use some cool music behind it |
| 22:44.46 | mgeary | dataw0lf: your boss is named Horse Power? |
| 22:44.52 | mgeary | ;) |
| 22:45.18 | dataw0lf | Beryl Love. He's a greek love machine. |
| 22:45.31 | supernovia | like Also sprach Zarathustra |
| 22:47.18 | mgeary | any yum experts out there? |
| 22:47.51 | mgeary | trying to figure out how i can update a CentOS machine to 5.2 |
| 22:50.05 | mindjuju | hey beandog, what was that one weird music vid from like holland or something |
| 22:50.13 | mindjuju | that had everybody in cowboy suits i think |
| 22:50.26 | beandog | uh |
| 22:50.27 | beandog | dunno? |
| 22:50.36 | mindjuju | oh, i thought you posted it a long time ago |
| 22:51.05 | dataw0lf | mgeary: yum update ? |
| 22:51.17 | mgeary | yeah, but it's not giving me anything back on that |
| 22:51.25 | mgeary | i'm thinking i might have to add a repository |
| 22:51.28 | mgeary | and i don't know how to do that |
| 22:51.34 | dataw0lf | yum upgrade, maybe |
| 22:51.51 | dataw0lf | (was specifically for 5.2, if I'm not mistaken) |
| 23:07.27 | mgeary | not getting anything useful |
| 23:16.27 | dataw0lf | http://www.elliottkember.com/ie.html Some NSFW language, but if you've ever seen Pulp Fiction, you'll love it. |
| 23:28.08 | itimber | I'm out.... later guys |
| 23:41.27 | supernovia | well chaps. I think I'll be taking off too. Take care. |
| 23:51.08 | SunSparc | Night all! |
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