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| 07:21.51 | trevynmeyer | Can I deposit money to a credit card with authorize.net? |
| 07:22.10 | trevynmeyer | Instead of just with drawing |
| 07:22.40 | trevynmeyer | I was being asked to charge a customer 100% of the price on the website, then deposit 97% into another account. |
| 07:22.47 | trevynmeyer | Is that doable? |
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| 13:03.06 | itimber | sup guys |
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| 16:34.18 | mindjuju | sure is quite today |
| 16:36.10 | mgeary | quite what? |
| 16:36.14 | mgeary | quite cold? |
| 16:36.26 | mgeary | ~yow |
| 16:38.04 | mindjuju | :) |
| 16:38.54 | mindjuju | How are you doing mgeary |
| 16:38.59 | mgeary | cold |
| 16:39.14 | mgeary | and i didn't have anywhere near enough fun over the weekend |
| 16:39.23 | mgeary | but i'm doing alright |
| 16:39.40 | mgeary | got taxes out of the way, and shock of shocks, we're actually getting a refund |
| 16:39.58 | mindjuju | wow! |
| 16:40.00 | mindjuju | that's awesome |
| 16:40.08 | supernovia | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:40.18 | supernovia | I hope we don't have to pay this year. That'd stink. |
| 16:41.37 | mindjuju | sup supernovia |
| 16:41.44 | mindjuju | good weekend? |
| 16:42.04 | supernovia | Mmmm, lets see |
| 16:42.12 | supernovia | it was a blur.. |
| 16:42.25 | DexterTheDragon | http://twitter.com/DexterTheDragon/status/1299046846 |
| 16:43.15 | mindjuju | ist that a mouse in a window well? |
| 16:43.19 | supernovia | ah is that in your window well? |
| 16:43.32 | mindjuju | jinx supernovia |
| 16:43.41 | herlo | DexterTheDragon: why not just send us the twitpic link you bozo :) |
| 16:43.48 | DexterTheDragon | herlo: meh |
| 16:43.52 | herlo | make me click extra links like that, geez! |
| 16:43.55 | DexterTheDragon | yeah its in my window well |
| 16:44.01 | mindjuju | supernovia -- k, you can talk now |
| 16:44.17 | supernovia | thanks . hehe |
| 16:44.30 | mindjuju | prolly cause dexterthedragon wants us to start following his twitter |
| 16:44.42 | supernovia | trixy there, Dexter. |
| 16:44.56 | supernovia | or trisky - how did gollum spell it? |
| 16:45.42 | supernovia | ew, not trisky. Tricksy |
| 16:45.59 | supernovia | like "Tricksy hobbits!" But maybe without a C. Goodness. |
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| 16:46.49 | supernovia | so what'd you do this weekend? I did the temple open house and played basketball, and modified paint trim colors |
| 16:47.17 | supernovia | did church. took a long nap. went to a hootenanny .. that was fun |
| 16:47.30 | DexterTheDragon | ~hootenanny |
| 16:47.40 | mindjuju | well, just cleaned up my office, looked over some old code, started to look at a new contract to bid for |
| 16:48.01 | mindjuju | and a scout audit on sunday, along with services, etc |
| 16:48.02 | supernovia | actually it was a family party, but since most of us sing or play an instrument |
| 16:48.26 | supernovia | it sortof turned into a big folksy song fest. Good times |
| 16:48.35 | supernovia | sounds like a good time mindjuju :-D |
| 16:48.36 | mindjuju | I play the kazoo |
| 16:48.40 | mindjuju | really well, too |
| 16:49.00 | supernovia | That's awesome |
| 16:49.11 | mindjuju | what do you play? |
| 16:49.20 | supernovia | I didn't bring a french horn or trmpet and my piano skills aren't really that fantastic |
| 16:49.24 | supernovia | but I sing :o) |
| 16:49.26 | thebigdog | i got my new pc today - http://www.tomshardware.com/picturestory/495-24-puget-systems-extreme.html |
| 16:49.32 | supernovia | my uncle played the guitar |
| 16:50.12 | mindjuju | supernovia - that's cool! |
| 16:50.47 | supernovia | it was really fun. Makes me want to do stuff like that more often. |
| 16:50.58 | herlo | http://www.sltrib.com/ci_11871104 |
| 16:51.06 | herlo | utah changes liquor laws ^^ |
| 16:51.46 | mindjuju | thebigdog, that's awesome. i especially like the part on the next page where it says they put on win serv 2k8 |
| 16:51.50 | mindjuju | good luck on that |
| 16:52.05 | thebigdog | well yeah |
| 16:52.27 | supernovia | you got that thebigdog? That's nuts! :-D |
| 16:52.29 | thebigdog | that is the new desktop right |
| 16:52.29 | dataw0lf | herlo: nice! I wonder when it goes into effect? |
| 16:52.41 | thebigdog | supernovia, no...that pc is $16k |
| 16:52.48 | thebigdog | i dont have that kinda of money |
| 16:52.58 | supernovia | hehehe, I was hoping you were teasing |
| 16:53.20 | supernovia | that's a down payment :-p |
| 16:55.42 | dataw0lf | why couldn't you do it before? |
| 16:56.14 | supernovia | Not that I couldn't |
| 16:56.15 | supernovia | I just haven't |
| 16:56.34 | supernovia | and it does seem like most karaoke setups are in 'private clubs for members' you know |
| 16:56.50 | dataw0lf | yea... |
| 16:57.02 | dataw0lf | they don't force alcohol down your throat when you sign up for the membership, though. |
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| 16:57.29 | supernovia | right, but you do have to sign up for membership |
| 16:59.01 | SunSparc | supernovia: np |
| 16:59.03 | SunSparc | :) |
| 17:00.09 | supernovia | too bad it didn't catch on much, but OW. People have their reasons I'm sure |
| 17:00.17 | supernovia | (OW meaning Oh Well) |
| 17:02.24 | supernovia | it'll still be helpful I think :-) |
| 17:03.04 | SunSparc | Perhaps you could make it recurring? |
| 17:03.48 | supernovia | I don't see why not. |
| 17:04.33 | itimber | DW: you're right, they don't force alcohol down your throat.... but it helps w/ the karaoke |
| 17:04.37 | itimber | :P |
| 17:04.52 | herlo | dataw0lf: well as soon as they sign the bill, we'll know |
| 17:05.01 | herlo | hopefully they'll approve it today |
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| 17:08.30 | supernovia | Hi Carmony |
| 17:08.31 | carmony_ | good morning |
| 17:08.36 | herlo | supernovia: stupid dst |
| 17:08.46 | supernovia | seriously herlo |
| 17:08.51 | herlo | :) |
| 17:08.59 | supernovia | and then the cloudy weather making it seem darker still doesn't help |
| 17:09.06 | dataw0lf | itimber: this is true. |
| 17:09.18 | carmony_ | Uggg, debugging web services can be such a pain sometimes |
| 17:09.38 | itimber | dataw0lf: fo sho |
| 17:10.20 | supernovia | you know what's cool about non DST too? We sometimes go to AZ to visit some family |
| 17:10.31 | itimber | have you heard/seen that American Idol Wii game in action? It actually scores you higher if you're monotone. |
| 17:10.32 | supernovia | and they can start the fireworks show at 9 on the 4th of July |
| 17:10.49 | itimber | it's like bad karaoke w/o the alcohol |
| 17:10.55 | supernovia | does it really? |
| 17:11.08 | SunSparc | ~lart DST |
| 17:11.08 | jbot | whips out a sword and chops DST in half |
| 17:11.08 | itimber | ya... cause it thinks you're holding your notes well |
| 17:11.54 | SunSparc | http://is.gd/my60 |
| 17:12.45 | supernovia | hehe |
| 17:15.06 | SunSparc | I am not a fan of the Office, but that was humorous. |
| 17:16.29 | supernovia | hehe, I don't watch enough to really get this but the Tim / Jim thing was funny |
| 17:16.41 | supernovia | 'way to make it your own' |
| 17:19.52 | SunSparc | heh, good for you. |
| 17:19.53 | SunSparc | :) |
| 17:20.50 | supernovia | people make office jokes and I'm totally lost :-S |
| 17:20.57 | supernovia | although I think I've seen part of it once at my brother's house |
| 17:21.43 | SunSparc | I prefer Man vs Wild and other educational shows. Oh, and LOST. ;) |
| 17:21.56 | supernovia | yeah, I'm lost with Lost stuff too. |
| 17:22.02 | SunSparc | :) |
| 17:26.38 | supernovia | this Josh Coates thing looks interesting - anyone going tomorrow? |
| 17:31.41 | macnewbold | Josh Coates lectures are usually interesting, I recommend them |
| 17:33.00 | supernovia | I might have to choose just one of these lectures but they do look good |
| 17:33.25 | carmony | whats the Josh Coates thing? |
| 17:33.55 | supernovia | He's giving some lectures at the Novell campus over the next few weeks |
| 17:34.04 | supernovia | Coates' Venture Startup Lecture Series |
| 17:34.14 | carmony | bah, living in Ogden makes going to Provo a pain :P |
| 17:34.35 | eggyknap | Living in Ogden seems already a pain. |
| 17:34.51 | carmony | hey... :P |
| 17:34.56 | supernovia | housing's less expensive though right? |
| 17:35.01 | carmony | oh yeah |
| 17:35.09 | carmony | and I live in South Ogden |
| 17:35.14 | carmony | South and North Ogden are pretty nice |
| 17:35.26 | carmony | Downtown Ogden in parts is pretty run down |
| 17:35.52 | supernovia | I thought about moving up there |
| 17:35.57 | supernovia | but my kids are too happy at their school here |
| 17:36.23 | carmony | South Ogden has nice schools |
| 17:36.34 | carmony | but I can totally understand the reason |
| 17:36.45 | supernovia | this school is super nice though :) it's a charter school and they're always doing these awesome projects |
| 17:38.04 | supernovia | I'm still debating whether to move so we're closer to the school. I'd miss my nifty star ceiling though.. |
| 17:40.33 | supernovia | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UkDMrG6tog |
| 17:46.17 | supernovia | ^ fairly freaky movie about zombie caterpillars and wasp mind control |
| 17:47.12 | SunSparc | Ummm, that is freaky!! Make it stop!! |
| 17:47.27 | SunSparc | ~lart wasps |
| 17:47.27 | jbot | eats wasps's liver with some fava beans and a nice chianti |
| 17:47.41 | SunSparc | ~nuke wasps |
| 17:47.42 | jbot | ACTION prepares 100 missle silos, and targets them at wasps ... Bâ¢â¢M! |
| 17:49.48 | supernovia | hehe |
| 18:00.54 | SunSparc | Everyone hear that HBO is airing a recreation of the LDS temple ceremony next sunday? |
| 18:01.14 | supernovia | I heard that - wasn't able to confirm it |
| 18:02.51 | supernovia | I doubt it'll show the whole thing - the novelty would wear off in a few minutes |
| 18:03.21 | dataw0lf | on Big Love? |
| 18:03.29 | SunSparc | Yeah. I am debating whether to put up a stink or not. |
| 18:03.32 | SunSparc | dataw0lf: Yes. |
| 18:03.44 | dataw0lf | ah. good show. |
| 18:03.55 | SunSparc | Less stink less publicity, but still, it is not very polite of them. |
| 18:04.18 | dataw0lf | ah is it supposed to be secret? |
| 18:04.25 | supernovia | yeah |
| 18:04.44 | dataw0lf | s'pose I'll skip that part then |
| 18:04.57 | supernovia | they respect Muslim beliefs by not showing an image of their prophet... |
| 18:05.01 | SunSparc | No, not secret, just sacred and special. Putting it on HBO like this is rather sacriligous. |
| 18:05.33 | dataw0lf | supernovia: well... that's not true. Several HBO series have tackled Islam fairly well |
| 18:05.43 | SunSparc | Then again, sensationalism sells. |
| 18:05.52 | supernovia | right, and they do the big love thing too |
| 18:06.30 | supernovia | well, look at this way on secret vs sacred |
| 18:06.40 | SunSparc | http://students.washington.edu/secular/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/big-love-to-show-mormon-ceremony.pdf |
| 18:07.05 | supernovia | some of the things aren't discussed at church even, because a person is supposed to have their life and priorties cleaned up to a point you know |
| 18:07.24 | supernovia | so the idea of showing it on TV, on big love no less, is fairly disrespectful |
| 18:07.36 | supernovia | so it's a bit different than just making fun of mormons |
| 18:08.11 | dataw0lf | well.. I really doubt they're trying to make fun of Mormons. Big Love has never come off that way to me. |
| 18:08.19 | dataw0lf | but I can understand the sensitivity issue |
| 18:11.17 | supernovia | I won't be making a big stink though. don't watch tv here and I think a big stink would just make it worse anyway |
| 18:11.53 | Lonnie | Damn, gave up HBO after the long Big Love hiatus, guess I gotta torrent them. |
| 18:12.14 | SunSparc | If the writers cared as much as they say they do to go into that much detail for their show, they would have learned how inappropriate what they are doing is. Which indicates to me that they really do not care and are just looking for ways to sell their show. Of course. Which I support, as a freedom loving American and capitalist myself. I would just think that they would have some kind of standards, oh, but wait, this is HBO. |
| 18:12.47 | SunSparc | Lonnie: Where is your usually nick? |
| 18:13.03 | Lonnie | ahh, whoops. |
| 18:13.05 | Lonnie | lol |
| 18:13.08 | SunSparc | :) |
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| 18:13.28 | dataw0lf | fungus: Season 3 has been pretty amazing |
| 18:13.42 | fungus | Cool |
| 18:14.05 | mgeary | i've never seen Big Love, but they surely don't imply the the protagonists are mainstream mormons, right? |
| 18:14.16 | fungus | right |
| 18:14.44 | fungus | The polygamists are outcast from normal mormon society |
| 18:15.02 | supernovia | any idea what they're doing in a temple? |
| 18:15.10 | mgeary | so how are they having a temple ceremony? Afaik, no splinter groups even have temples |
| 18:15.23 | mgeary | i guess details like that fall by the wayside |
| 18:15.34 | fungus | No clue, haven't seen S3 yet. Only 1 and 2 |
| 18:15.57 | supernovia | law and order had a splinter guy wearing homemade G's |
| 18:16.18 | dataw0lf | mgeary: from what I gather I think they may be flashbacking to Bill and Barb's wedding |
| 18:16.30 | dataw0lf | (they were mainstream mormons before converting to polygamy) |
| 18:16.36 | mgeary | ah |
| 18:16.50 | mgeary | well, i do agree it's pretty tasteless |
| 18:16.59 | mgeary | but that's rarely stopped TV |
| 18:17.05 | supernovia | yeah, that's the thing |
| 18:17.09 | fungus | Especially HBO |
| 18:17.19 | supernovia | exactly |
| 18:17.34 | supernovia | they're the modern day peep show :) |
| 18:17.38 | dataw0lf | well... |
| 18:17.58 | dataw0lf | I almost had an anxiety attack during two episodes of Generation Kill. |
| 18:18.07 | dataw0lf | It was so _close_ to what happened in Iraq |
| 18:18.19 | dataw0lf | and maybe that might be considered tasteless |
| 18:18.45 | dataw0lf | but it's honest too. And sometimes you have to appreciate honesty no matter how tasteless you may find it. |
| 18:19.00 | mgeary | well, i see this as different |
| 18:19.53 | mgeary | but whatever. I doubt this is the lowest they've ever stooped, and i suspect they'll stoop lower again some day |
| 18:20.23 | mgeary | people who want to find out what happens in LDS temples can find out. It's not like HBO is in on some great mystery |
| 18:20.53 | supernovia | guess as long as they don't show women jumping out the windows of the SLC temple into the freedom of the great salt lake right? |
| 18:20.58 | josephscott | I'd disagree with the 'appreciate honesty no matter how tasteless' line of thought, there are lots of horrible things that go on in this world |
| 18:21.22 | supernovia | agreed. |
| 18:21.23 | mgeary | i just hope they don't show the naked virgins |
| 18:21.24 | josephscott | some that just about made me puke hearing about, let alone the thought of seeing it on tv |
| 18:22.52 | supernovia | even schindlers list, I couldn't get through it because I threw up after the first half hour or so |
| 18:23.01 | supernovia | and I wasn't even pregnant. |
| 18:23.29 | herlo | and I'll bet supernovia will puke during that movie too :) |
| 18:23.45 | SunSparc | herlo: That actually looks good. |
| 18:24.26 | herlo | SunSparc: it is! |
| 18:24.37 | herlo | SunSparc: mind you, it's really, really racist |
| 18:25.00 | supernovia | why would I puke, Herlo? |
| 18:25.11 | SunSparc | Is it appropriately racist? And does it have a happy ending? |
| 18:25.19 | herlo | Clint Eastwood has asian pacific neighbors he calls all sorts of names |
| 18:25.23 | beandog | appropriately racist? |
| 18:25.26 | herlo | SunSparc: yes, very appropriate for the movie |
| 18:25.27 | SunSparc | hehe |
| 18:25.34 | beandog | as in, historically acurrate |
| 18:25.35 | supernovia | I can handle grossness if I know it's not real. but when it's TRUE and absolutely horrible, that's when I get sick |
| 18:25.35 | beandog | ? |
| 18:25.39 | herlo | it tells the story, and without that, it won't work |
| 18:26.53 | herlo | supernovia: this story is based upon a true story iirc |
| 18:26.54 | SunSparc | herlo: From what I saw of the previews, he is racist but is still a decent human who in the end treats his neighbors as fellow humans/ |
| 18:27.28 | supernovia | and the gross parts? |
| 18:27.38 | herlo | supernovia: http://screenit.com/movies/2008/gran_torino.html |
| 18:28.30 | herlo | SunSparc: pretty close |
| 18:28.42 | SunSparc | supernovia: http://www.apple.com/trailers/wb/grantorino/ |
| 18:30.34 | herlo | beer, pizza and Clint Eastwood :) |
| 18:31.08 | SunSparc | A lot of language. I will probably wait for the clearplay version |
| 18:31.26 | beandog | more language, please. |
| 18:31.31 | SunSparc | lol |
| 18:31.41 | beandog | :) |
| 18:31.54 | SunSparc | ~language beandog |
| 18:31.55 | jbot | ACTION grabs beandog by the ear and washes beandog's mouth out with soap |
| 18:32.15 | supernovia | I'll probably wait till my little brother sees it |
| 18:32.24 | supernovia | he's my clearplay :o) knows what I handle and what I don't :) |
| 18:32.27 | dataw0lf | tasteless != gross |
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| 18:32.42 | supernovia | true dataw0lf |
| 18:32.45 | dataw0lf | And Gran Torino is a prime example of truthful tastelessness being used to exploit a point. |
| 18:32.55 | dataw0lf | herlo: great movie btw |
| 18:33.11 | SunSparc | dataw0lf: agreed |
| 18:33.18 | SunSparc | which is why I want to see it. |
| 18:34.11 | SunSparc | I think gang hate and racism is ridiculous and portrays an incredible amount of intolerance and ignorance. |
| 18:36.16 | herlo | dataw0lf: yep |
| 18:36.38 | herlo | SunSparc: this show touches on gang violence from a different angle |
| 18:37.24 | SunSparc | Which angle? |
| 18:37.36 | herlo | SunSparc: if you wait for the clearplay version, the racist swearing will probably be removed and will really affect your perception |
| 18:37.50 | herlo | SunSparc: you'll have to watch to find out the angle |
| 18:37.55 | dataw0lf | yea I think a clearplay version would be subverting the point... |
| 18:38.08 | SunSparc | Hmmm, good to know. |
| 18:38.33 | dataw0lf | although with Eastwood's trademark scowl it's hard not to tell his hateful emotions easily enough without the corresponding dialogue. |
| 18:38.54 | herlo | my thinking is that screenit is saying that the racist spewing is swearing |
| 18:40.27 | dataw0lf | herlo: you ever see Generation Kill? |
| 18:40.34 | herlo | dataw0lf: no |
| 18:40.40 | dataw0lf | you should |
| 18:40.41 | herlo | dataw0lf: I don't like war shows |
| 18:40.44 | dataw0lf | ah |
| 18:40.46 | herlo | never hav |
| 18:40.56 | herlo | and that goes for gang shows like 'The Wire' too |
| 18:40.59 | herlo | even though they are good |
| 18:41.03 | herlo | I just don't enjoy them |
| 18:41.09 | dataw0lf | I can appreciate that |
| 18:41.31 | herlo | dataw0lf: ever seen 'The Unit'? |
| 18:41.39 | herlo | yeah, I hated it... |
| 18:41.51 | beandog | awesome show I found this weekend (seriously) |
| 18:41.52 | herlo | but some of the actors in it I love |
| 18:41.56 | dataw0lf | herlo: nope |
| 18:42.00 | herlo | beandog: the new one? |
| 18:42.05 | beandog | herlo, no, from '73 |
| 18:42.14 | herlo | k, god |
| 18:42.15 | mindjuju | yeah, the telly savalis one |
| 18:42.16 | herlo | good |
| 18:42.23 | herlo | that was a good show |
| 18:42.25 | beandog | herlo, I didnt even know there was a new one |
| 18:43.40 | mindjuju | beandog - how many of these did you eat? |
| 18:43.41 | mindjuju | http://www.gunaxin.com/a-tribute-to-discontinued-cereals/11570/1 |
| 18:43.51 | mindjuju | i've had a huge num of these |
| 18:44.47 | beandog | those Oreo Os were *really good* |
| 18:45.03 | beandog | so was the dunkin donuts one, man |
| 18:45.12 | herlo | ) |
| 18:45.32 | beandog | thats awesome. |
| 18:45.37 | mindjuju | :) |
| 18:45.41 | supernovia | http://homestarrunner.com/sbemail194.html |
| 18:45.47 | herlo | ahh, Puffa Puffa Rice (1967 - 1975) |
| 18:46.07 | beandog | my mom always bought the cheap stuff |
| 18:46.18 | herlo | supernovia: cream of wheat is *not* discontinued |
| 18:46.21 | herlo | I own some |
| 18:46.27 | beandog | now I spend my whole life trying to recapture the childhood dream of eating Cap'n Crunch |
| 18:46.36 | supernovia | we -never- had cold cereal :S I remember being jealous of my next door neighbors |
| 18:46.45 | mindjuju | sadly, and i'm not sure how, i missed nerd cereal |
| 18:46.47 | supernovia | because their mother would give them a box of cold cereal (of their choice!) for their birthday |
| 18:46.51 | herlo | Smurf-Berry Crunch were AWESOME |
| 18:46.53 | mindjuju | that would have been the absolute best |
| 18:46.56 | beandog | herlo, yah |
| 18:47.03 | supernovia | nerd cereal looks good |
| 18:47.07 | herlo | hehe |
| 18:47.15 | supernovia | http://homestarrunner.com/sbemail194.html <- specially marked cereal boxes |
| 18:47.50 | mindjuju | did ya'll see the nerd cereal bowl with the Nerd Gate? |
| 18:48.01 | beandog | supernovia, you just killed todays productivity |
| 18:48.06 | supernovia | heheh |
| 18:48.08 | mindjuju | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZKFxojujNk |
| 18:49.28 | supernovia | that bowl looks neat |
| 18:49.40 | beandog | we need more cereals like this |
| 18:49.42 | supernovia | my kids have two sided cups from denny's but no nerd gate! |
| 18:50.16 | herlo | http://news.cnet.com/8301-13505_3-10191484-16.html?part=rss&tag=feed&subj=TheOpenRoad |
| 18:50.50 | herlo | that irks me |
| 18:50.58 | herlo | and a very good reason I don't buy apple |
| 18:52.04 | itimber | Gran Torino ++ |
| 18:59.20 | beandog | braeburn++ |
| 18:59.29 | supernovia | braeburn++ here too |
| 18:59.40 | supernovia | I like fujis and jonagold too though as long as they're crispy |
| 18:59.46 | herlo | grannysmith++ |
| 18:59.53 | beandog | any of the mushy ones are gross. |
| 18:59.58 | supernovia | seriously. |
| 19:00.04 | supernovia | my grandpa liked em that way |
| 19:00.11 | herlo | like red delicious, ew!! |
| 19:00.12 | SunSparc | ~lart mushy apples |
| 19:00.12 | jbot | burns mushy apples to a crisp with a laser |
| 19:00.34 | supernovia | herlo, once we were stuck in the sand at lake powel |
| 19:00.35 | SunSparc | The only thing mushy apples are good for is apple sauce. |
| 19:00.41 | beandog | yah |
| 19:00.41 | supernovia | this nice old lady comes up and offers the kids some apples |
| 19:01.05 | DexterTheDragon | its a witch |
| 19:01.06 | SunSparc | The wicked witch?! |
| 19:01.07 | supernovia | mary wouldn't take them because they were red delicious :-p |
| 19:01.14 | herlo | haha |
| 19:01.27 | supernovia | 'Do you have any braeburns by chance?' (she was five) |
| 19:01.44 | SunSparc | Mary is a clever one. |
| 19:01.49 | supernovia | She's a nut. hehe |
| 19:03.19 | herlo | anyone configured reporting software before? and not crystal reports? |
| 19:03.33 | supernovia | which reporting software? |
| 19:03.45 | herlo | I'm looking for suggestions |
| 19:04.01 | supernovia | what's your client like? |
| 19:04.01 | SunSparc | web stats? |
| 19:04.10 | herlo | we dont need anything too great |
| 19:04.19 | herlo | no, any db sources |
| 19:04.40 | herlo | sales, accounting, tracking, etc |
| 19:05.04 | SunSparc | Like SugarCRM? |
| 19:05.12 | herlo | uh, no, that's overkill |
| 19:05.17 | SunSparc | Or reporting only |
| 19:05.20 | herlo | yes |
| 19:05.22 | herlo | only reporting |
| 19:05.26 | SunSparc | heh, yeah, Sugar is overkill. |
| 19:05.38 | herlo | I've looked at JasperServer, Pentaho and others, but those are also overkill and difficult to configure |
| 19:06.04 | herlo | just looking for something that can take database data, and allow someone (not me) to link up the columns together and make a repot |
| 19:06.08 | herlo | report |
| 19:06.18 | herlo | from multiple data sources |
| 19:06.29 | herlo | SunSparc: make more sense? |
| 19:06.46 | SunSparc | Ah, something akin to simply making views from existing data. |
| 19:07.00 | herlo | yeah |
| 19:07.11 | herlo | except using different dbs and different data sets |
| 19:07.27 | herlo | and it has a web/gui interface |
| 19:08.00 | SunSparc | That reminds me vaguely of MS Access. But I do not know of anything good in that area. Have not looked. |
| 19:08.31 | SunSparc | Most db views I use are ones I create in whatever application I am making. |
| 19:08.57 | herlo | yeah, unfortunately, it's gotta be dynamic |
| 19:09.01 | herlo | and this is a bitch to find |
| 19:09.08 | SunSparc | But I would think there has to be some good stuff out there. |
| 19:25.01 | itimber | well, if/when you find, please share |
| 19:25.24 | itimber | @herlo |
| 19:28.01 | herlo | itimber: http://mydbr.nocsos.com |
| 19:28.07 | herlo | I was just recommended this one |
| 19:28.11 | herlo | looks promising |
| 19:28.13 | itimber | thx |
| 19:28.50 | herlo | I hope it does sqlite too |
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| 19:58.19 | herlo | Utah_Dave: you around? got another question about your import script if you have a minute |
| 19:59.14 | supernovia | I've got a question for utah_dave too |
| 19:59.34 | herlo | supernovia: tab completion should help you a bit... |
| 19:59.36 | herlo | :) |
| 19:59.47 | herlo | type Utah[tab] :) |
| 20:00.20 | supernovia | Thanks herlo ;-) |
| 20:00.39 | supernovia | Did you see the comment I sent you the other day regarding Zareason's daughter? |
| 20:00.58 | herlo | supernovia: yes, did you see my reply? |
| 20:01.07 | supernovia | I didn't, I'd left I guess |
| 20:01.21 | supernovia | or spaced out or something :-p |
| 20:04.08 | supernovia | checking the archives, looks like your next comment was about donuts. hoping I didn't miss a pm |
| 20:09.14 | supernovia | herlo, I totally missed your reply |
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| 20:14.29 | herlo | supernovia: it's okay, I forgot what was said now |
| 20:14.33 | herlo | something about coming out here IIRC |
| 20:14.42 | supernovia | Ah well. |
| 20:15.28 | supernovia | They told me they're going to try to hire a few good poeple there so they'll be freed up for more stuff like that. So we'll see |
| 20:29.20 | DexterTheDragon | herlo: for that myDBR app the reports have to be stored procedures |
| 20:35.06 | mindjuju | can't we just all get along?? - http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090309/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/us_china_incident |
| 20:35.24 | mindjuju | though that tit-for-tat between the US and China are kinda funny |
| 20:36.06 | mindjuju | i'm wondering if, for the Chinese, it was some kind of reenactment of Braveheart or something? |
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| 20:38.15 | herlo | DexterTheDragon: oh, suck :( |
| 20:44.48 | carmony_ | man, I'm bored :P |
| 20:45.48 | SunSparc | Hi bored. How are you doing? |
| 20:45.59 | SunSparc | ~bored carmony |
| 20:46.08 | SunSparc | ~board carmony |
| 20:46.34 | DexterTheDragon | ~waterboard carmony_ |
| 20:46.54 | SunSparc | That'll keep him occupied for a while... |
| 20:47.35 | carmony_ | LOL |
| 20:48.22 | unum | I just got a text message from a ward member telling me to call hbo and the fcc |
| 20:48.27 | unum | what is the fcc going to do about it? |
| 20:48.56 | unum | I think we need to spend a little time on the constitution in elder's quorum this sunday |
| 20:49.11 | carmony_ | lol |
| 20:49.18 | SunSparc | Seriously. |
| 20:49.28 | carmony_ | I don't think the FCC is the right company to call |
| 20:49.37 | carmony_ | you should call HBO and express your feelings |
| 20:50.09 | SunSparc | This is freedom of speech. You got a problem with the speech, speak peaceably with the speaker. |
| 20:50.34 | unum | s/company/organization |
| 20:50.46 | unum | first he sent one saying to call hbo |
| 20:51.06 | unum | then he followed up saying it wasn't a hoax and that you should also call the fcc |
| 20:52.07 | supernovia | hmm yeah don't see what the fcc will do |
| 20:53.04 | SunSparc | While I appreciate some of what the FCC has been able to do in the past, I think it is an organization that largely goes against constitutional freedoms. |
| 20:53.55 | SunSparc | set(FLAME = true) |
| 20:54.54 | dataw0lf | mmmm me and SunSparc in full agreement on something |
| 20:55.04 | SunSparc | whoa! |
| 20:55.33 | dataw0lf | haha |
| 20:55.38 | SunSparc | :) |
| 20:56.03 | dataw0lf | I don't think it's the government's job to regulate what people see and hear, children or not. |
| 20:56.44 | SunSparc | Right, it should be the parents (and perhaps to a lesser extent, whatever religious organization the people belong to). |
| 20:57.07 | dataw0lf | agreed. the government should never be a substitute for spiritual and emotional well-being. |
| 20:57.31 | SunSparc | Or in the case of adults, they can choose not to watch or listen to something, or take ti up with the producers of the content. |
| 20:57.56 | SunSparc | Yes, relying on the government to do all that borders on combining church and state. |
| 20:58.15 | SunSparc | From one perspective at least. |
| 20:59.07 | mindjuju | ...here comes the snow... |
| 20:59.19 | mindjuju | and to think i put away the shovels already |
| 20:59.46 | SunSparc | And to think, I almost took down my Christmas lights already... |
| 21:00.31 | supernovia | silly question time - does anyone here use plesk? and if someone doesn't have ssh, what's the easiest way to make a tar.gz? |
| 21:00.38 | supernovia | I'm trying to google it and not finding much info |
| 21:01.23 | tierra | 7zip can do it as well as WinRAR I think |
| 21:01.55 | tierra | Winzip might too for that matter... probably just a little more hidden |
| 21:01.57 | supernovia | that's after you download all the files though right? |
| 21:02.13 | tierra | are you doing this with WinSCP or something? |
| 21:02.26 | supernovia | he doesn't have ssh access :-( this is just a potential client |
| 21:02.34 | supernovia | and apparently plesk doesn't make regular tar.gz files for backups |
| 21:02.37 | tierra | FTP only? |
| 21:02.46 | supernovia | They have ftp and the plesk admin |
| 21:02.58 | supernovia | I'm wondering if the plesk admin has a feature that'll let them compress their files |
| 21:03.11 | tierra | I'm probably not being very helpful... don't know plesk at all |
| 21:03.18 | supernovia | no worries. I don't either |
| 21:03.28 | supernovia | I can wait till my coworker who is familiar is in |
| 21:07.31 | mgeary | calling postfix experts |
| 21:07.53 | mgeary | i've added a user and i'm trying to reload postifx. I'm not getting any errors, but neither is it fully running |
| 21:07.54 | mindjuju | mgeary, there is a #postfix here on freenode |
| 21:07.58 | mgeary | i know |
| 21:08.05 | mgeary | but y'all are my buddies |
| 21:08.22 | mgeary | postfix/master is running, but qmgr and such are not, and it's not responding to my mail client |
| 21:08.25 | unum | added a user? |
| 21:08.30 | mgeary | yeah |
| 21:09.06 | unum | netstat lt |
| 21:09.10 | unum | netstat -lt |
| 21:09.33 | unum | is it listening on the smtp ports you think it should be listening on |
| 21:10.12 | mgeary | nope, not listening |
| 21:11.53 | unum | when you say added user do you mean you added a system user |
| 21:11.57 | mgeary | yeah |
| 21:12.47 | unum | have you done a system upgrade since you last restart postfix? |
| 21:13.00 | mgeary | nope |
| 21:13.46 | unum | because adding a new user shouldn't do anything. you don't need to restart postfix after adding a user either |
| 21:14.29 | unum | trying stopping postfix and see if everything stops |
| 21:14.33 | unum | what distro is this on? |
| 21:15.02 | mgeary | OS X |
| 21:15.10 | mgeary | and when i stop postfix, everything does stop |
| 21:16.28 | unum | sorry for the stupid question, but I just want to make sure you checked the log file for errors, correct? |
| 21:16.31 | supernovia | ~lart DST |
| 21:16.31 | jbot | breaks out the Hoover and sucks up DST |
| 21:17.12 | mgeary | yep |
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| 21:17.38 | SunSparc | eradicate DST |
| 21:17.45 | SunSparc | ~eradicate DST |
| 21:17.46 | jbot | ACTION removes DST from the room one cockroach at a time! |
| 21:18.29 | SunSparc | ~caffeine supernovia |
| 21:19.07 | unum | you are restarting it as the super user, right? ;) |
| 21:19.44 | mgeary | yep |
| 21:19.46 | unum | does osx have sudo, or does it just ask for the password when it needs it? |
| 21:19.46 | mgeary | sudo |
| 21:19.46 | unum | I'm out of ideas. |
| 21:19.46 | supernovia | thanks SunSparc |
| 21:19.50 | SunSparc | :) |
| 21:20.02 | SunSparc | unum: Yes, OS X does have sudo |
| 21:27.16 | mgeary | found the problem |
| 21:27.26 | mgeary | the machine wasn't binding to it's external IP address |
| 21:27.31 | mgeary | bah |
| 21:29.47 | SunSparc | ~bag |
| 21:29.48 | jbot | bag is used to buffer data. URL: http://www.foi.hr/~dpavlin/projects/bag/ |
| 21:29.53 | SunSparc | ~bah |
| 21:29.54 | jbot | bah is, like, everyone's other favourite word (see heh) |
| 21:30.02 | SunSparc | ~heh |
| 21:30.04 | jbot | heh |
| 21:30.08 | SunSparc | :) |
| 21:30.11 | SunSparc | ~meh |
| 21:30.13 | jbot | meh int. /meh/ [The Simpsons] An interjection expressing apathy, or mgeary's favorite phrase |
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| 21:33.11 | SunSparc | mgeary: What was the name of that Belgian town you recommended I visit? |
| 21:33.18 | mgeary | Brugges |
| 21:35.12 | SunSparc | Ah, that is all the way over by the coast. Ok, cool. thanks. |
| 21:36.47 | supernovia | thanks for the good info etc, guys. Take care for now. |
| 21:36.53 | SunSparc | Ah nice, an official statement from the LDS church http://newsroom.lds.org/ldsnewsroom/eng/commentary/the-publicity-dilemma |
| 21:37.02 | SunSparc | Later supernovia |
| 21:37.14 | supernovia | see ya |
| 21:39.55 | mindjuju | ugh, i'm headed out early so i don't have to be on the freeway with traffic + snow |
| 21:40.03 | mindjuju | see you guys when i get to orem |
| 21:40.24 | SunSparc | mindjuju: no snow in Utah Valley, come on down. |
| 21:40.30 | SunSparc | Drive safe around the point. |
| 21:45.35 | herlo | SunSparc: eh, I'm inside so it's not being seen right now :) |
| 21:46.00 | SunSparc | herlo: Ah, I just saw you tweet a frowning face at the snow ;) |
| 21:46.57 | herlo | SunSparc: yeah, that was 2 hours ago now |
| 21:47.19 | SunSparc | Better late than never I guess. |
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| 21:49.05 | herlo | :) |
| 21:49.56 | SunSparc | WHAHUH!!! Oh nooo, spoke too soon. Little flakes have found there way to AF... |
| 21:49.58 | SunSparc | :( |
| 21:50.15 | SunSparc | ~lart snow in the valley's |
| 21:50.15 | jbot | installs a bad bootloader on snow in the valley's and turns snow in the valley's into a brick |
| 21:56.31 | cro | Anyone aware of what's going on with Comcast? |
| 21:56.44 | cro | Service has been out here for a couple of hours |
| 21:56.45 | supernovia | what's going on with comcast? btw, I'm back.stuck @ work |
| 21:56.52 | supernovia | my comcast is fine and dandy |
| 21:57.02 | cro | (I'm using my cellphone, but it likes to crash every once and a while, and it's REALLY slow) |
| 21:57.37 | cro | Ironic that Utopia is pulling my fiber tomorrow :-D |
| 21:58.13 | unum | my utopia connection is fine ;) |
| 21:58.24 | cro | unum: you have 10/2? |
| 22:00.29 | unum | cro: not sure what you mean |
| 22:00.45 | cro | unum: 10 MB down, 2 MB upstream |
| 22:00.47 | cro | oops |
| 22:00.55 | cro | Mbit I mean |
| 22:01.04 | unum | I think we have more than that |
| 22:01.41 | cro | oops, there I went :-) |
| 22:01.57 | cro | we'll see how long my poor Motorola Q can keep pushing my data back and forth. |
| 22:02.18 | unum | ya we have double that |
| 22:02.31 | cro | happy with it? |
| 22:02.35 | unum | better than that |
| 22:02.40 | unum | 20/10 |
| 22:02.45 | unum | it's nice |
| 22:03.25 | unum | and xmission host's mirror so I get some crazy upgrade speeds |
| 22:03.34 | cro | awesome |
| 22:03.39 | cro | Ubuntu and others? |
| 22:03.51 | carmony | anyone else in Ogden hear all the sirens going crazy? |
| 22:06.26 | unum | ya they have a bunch of them, it's really nice |
| 22:07.09 | DexterTheDragon | they're coming for you carmony |
| 22:09.10 | thebigdog | xmission sucks now they took of their gentoo portage mirror |
| 22:09.21 | supernovia | holy moley, I thought you all were nuts when you were talking about crazy snow. It's caught up with us in PG now |
| 22:09.24 | SunSparc | Their coming to take you away, haha. |
| 22:12.32 | SunSparc | mindjuju: You are too late to miss the snow down here. |
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| 22:12.34 | unum | my friends in seattle say it's coming down heavy up there |
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| 22:14.46 | SunSparc | There were pretty good |
| 22:15.14 | supernovia | http://novapages.com/ideablog/life/happy-haiku-wednesday/ |
| 22:15.49 | supernovia | Thanks Sunsparc :0) |
| 22:16.17 | SunSparc | :) |
| 22:17.15 | supernovia | and for the comment too :) |
| 22:17.46 | SunSparc | :) |
| 22:17.57 | SunSparc | It's called Karma. |
| 22:18.49 | supernovia | hehe, the comment is called Karma? |
| 22:19.54 | SunSparc | ;P |
| 22:21.30 | dataw0lf | ~karma |
| 22:21.30 | jbot | dataw0lf has karma of 4 |
| 22:21.53 | SunSparc | ~karma dataw0lf |
| 22:21.53 | jbot | dataw0lf has karma of 4 |
| 22:22.09 | SunSparc | I think the snow has gotten to jbot |
| 22:22.09 | dataw0lf | broke it. division by zero :( |
| 22:22.15 | supernovia | Ah |
| 22:22.17 | supernovia | ~karma SunSparc |
| 22:22.17 | jbot | sunsparc has karma of 10 |
| 22:22.33 | supernovia | SunSparc++ |
| 22:22.50 | supernovia | ~SunSparc++ |
| 22:23.00 | supernovia | what's the proper syntax? |
| 22:23.12 | supernovia | and that's for being an encouraging friend :) |
| 22:24.48 | SunSparc | The second was proper. :) |
| 22:24.50 | SunSparc | Thanks! |
| 22:24.55 | supernovia | Np :-) |
| 22:29.12 | mgeary | ~karma SunSparc |
| 22:29.12 | jbot | sunsparc has karma of 11 |
| 22:29.33 | SunSparc | Woot! |
| 22:29.40 | mgeary | ~karma mgeary |
| 22:29.40 | jbot | mgeary has karma of 15 |
| 22:30.37 | supernovia | I think I might have 1 :-D |
| 22:30.46 | SunSparc | ~karma supernovia |
| 22:30.46 | jbot | supernovia has karma of 1 |
| 22:30.50 | supernovia | w00t |
| 22:31.14 | SunSparc | A very good place to start. |
| 22:31.20 | supernovia | that's right |
| 22:31.49 | SunSparc | heh |
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| 22:34.39 | brett_ | I have a question. Kind of a newbie here. |
| 22:34.58 | SunSparc | Newbie's are not allowed to ask questions here. |
| 22:35.03 | brett_ | Building a form for a client to submit leads to a script on another server. I need to validate the form data before it's submitted, then once it's validated submit the form, and then display a thank you page. Problem is once you submit the form, you lose control. The remote script takes over and spits back a success or fail message. |
| 22:35.05 | SunSparc | ;) Just kidding. |
| 22:35.08 | unum | I thought he was going to ask if we ever talked about php |
| 22:35.09 | brett_ | So... I could store all the data in variables and submit to my own script for validation, but then how do I submit the form data to the remote script? Submit is a front-end action, so I don't know if you can do it with php. Should I use curl? Any suggestions? |
| 22:35.16 | SunSparc | unum: heh |
| 22:35.16 | brett_ | ha ha! |
| 22:35.32 | beandog | php is so off-topic in here. |
| 22:35.42 | SunSparc | beandog: amen to that! |
| 22:35.45 | dataw0lf | brett_: curl, yes, or anything else that can make a HTTP request |
| 22:36.10 | SunSparc | Just because it is in the title does not mean we have talk about it.. |
| 22:36.49 | SunSparc | brett_: If you are not too far into your project, you should look into using CakePHP as your framework. |
| 22:37.08 | SunSparc | CakePHP has some amazing validation tools. |
| 22:37.31 | brett_ | So if I use curl to send the form data to the remote script, it will behave the same as if I had just subitted the form directly to that script? |
| 22:37.53 | unum | you can set post variable in curl before you send the request |
| 22:37.57 | dataw0lf | brett_: well you'll have to handle the response the remote server spits back at you |
| 22:38.12 | SunSparc | supernovia: Are you still alive/ |
| 22:38.34 | supernovia | just barely |
| 22:38.59 | unum | brett_: you can use wget to test what the other server does |
| 22:39.17 | brett_ | what's wget? |
| 22:39.31 | unum | it's a commandline linux utilitly that works kind of like curl |
| 22:39.35 | beandog | Network utility to retrieve files from the WWW |
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| 22:39.45 | DexterTheDragon | beandog: whats the WWW |
| 22:39.55 | carmony | ~lart DexterTheDragon |
| 22:39.55 | jbot | holds DexterTheDragon to the floor and spanks him with a cat-o-nine-tails |
| 22:40.02 | beandog | DexterTheDragon, like WWF, but better. |
| 22:40.08 | supernovia | lol |
| 22:40.57 | brett_ | Okay, I'll see if I can solve it with curl. Thanks. |
| 22:41.26 | dataw0lf | brett_: be back if you have any more questions or need specific resources/references. |
| 22:42.08 | brett_ | Cool. Thanks. |
| 22:42.30 | beandog | is anyone else getting snowed in |
| 22:42.40 | cro__ | It's dumping in Layton |
| 22:44.02 | supernovia | the kids who came over the play with my kids are going to have to get a ride home now |
| 22:44.06 | supernovia | because of the nasty snow |
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| 23:21.47 | SunSparc | Night all!! Drive safe. |
| 23:22.33 | beandog | at least until he gets home. |
| 23:22.39 | mgeary | hahaha |
| 23:24.50 | supernovia | I guess one nice thing about being stuck here without techs is not having to drive in the snow.. |
| 23:25.03 | beandog | theres no snow on the road |
| 23:25.05 | beandog | up here at least |
| 23:26.23 | mgeary | nor here |
| 23:32.59 | supernovia | I guess it isn't sticking here either |
| 23:33.09 | supernovia | not to the roads anyway |
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| 23:41.24 | undertakingyou | macnewbold: thanks man |
| 23:41.32 | macnewbold | np |
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| 23:47.18 | supernovia | d'oh. |