| 00:00.10 | dataw0lf | SunSparc: cool, lemme know if you can squeez 'er in. |
| 00:00.19 | SunSparc | Will do |
| 00:00.24 | SunSparc | Night allz! |
| 00:41.16 | Lone_Wanderer | Sweet. Just got a copy of Office and Visio Pro for $40 total. |
| 00:44.44 | itimber | I'm out... later guys |
| 00:45.45 | dataw0lf | whoa whoa whoa... timinator leaving at 5:45. I'm shocked and appalled. |
| 01:20.26 | herlo | dataw0lf: ooh, cool |
| 01:21.03 | herlo | I'd be up for that |
| 01:21.10 | dataw0lf | herlo: awesometastic. |
| 01:21.30 | herlo | dataw0lf: just depends on my schedule, but I should be able to make it |
| 01:21.44 | dataw0lf | awesome my new number is 775-636-5992, think I got yours somewhere... |
| 01:21.55 | herlo | dataw0lf: you moving back here? |
| 01:22.07 | dataw0lf | passively trying to, looking for good job opportunities |
| 01:22.29 | herlo | well, if I hear of anything good, I'll ping ya. Still doing python and ruby dev stuff? |
| 01:22.38 | dataw0lf | awesome, and yessir. |
| 01:22.55 | herlo | that what you're looking for? |
| 01:23.20 | dataw0lf | yea |
| 01:25.44 | herlo | k |
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| 15:56.52 | carmony | mornin |
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| 16:01.39 | herlo | hi |
| 16:02.04 | herlo | :) |
| 16:04.07 | itimber | sup guys |
| 16:04.44 | *** topic/#UPHPU by fungus -> Geek Lunch Today - http://tinyurl.com/the-soup-kitchen | Utah PHP Users Group | uphpu.org |
| 16:05.14 | cro | 'morning itimber |
| 16:05.30 | itimber | mornin' |
| 16:05.31 | cro | fungus: want to include the time? 12:30 PM right? |
| 16:05.42 | itimber | BRB.... installing stuf |
| 16:05.45 | itimber | *stuff |
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| 16:06.22 | utahcon1 | soup kitchen... never been there. |
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| 16:17.08 | fungus | utahcon1 71-32-199-79.slkc.qwest.net is the IP of your other connection. |
| 16:17.42 | utahcon1 | fungus: that is my router at home... behind it are many machines. |
| 16:17.43 | carmony | don't worry utahcon, I'll take care of it for you! |
| 16:18.16 | carmony | there :)\ |
| 16:21.45 | utahcon1 | still has a |
| 16:21.46 | utahcon1 | 1 |
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| 16:26.55 | fungus | utahcon's computer must be in a fireproof safe. |
| 16:28.05 | utahcon1 | they make the best cases. |
| 16:29.41 | fungus | That's actually a really good idea for a backup server. |
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| 17:03.57 | thebigdog | top o' morning all |
| 17:04.13 | unum | morning |
| 17:05.08 | utahcon1 | yo |
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| 17:12.03 | orsonj | and the rest of the morning to yourself |
| 17:12.15 | orsonj | (or is that day, I for get) |
| 17:13.17 | orsonj | bleah, /me goes and walks around the building |
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| 17:23.48 | mgeary | ~yow |
| 17:25.10 | orsonj | heh, today's girl genius makes me smile. http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php |
| 17:29.42 | thebigdog | that is a pretty funny one |
| 17:31.56 | herlo | mindjuju: did you see my post? |
| 17:32.47 | mindjuju | huh? |
| 17:42.11 | utahcon1 | post? |
| 17:50.51 | herlo | mindjuju: utos.org |
| 17:51.44 | mindjuju | that's awesome! |
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| 18:03.37 | herlo | mindjuju: figured you'd like that :) |
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| 18:26.09 | carmony | There is nothing worse than when you've lost a PSD that you need :( |
| 18:26.34 | carmony | well... I should knock on wood, because there really is, but it does really suck :P |
| 18:32.00 | SunSparc | There is really nothing worse than losing your head to a guillotine just because you are an aristocrat. |
| 18:43.49 | mindjuju | ugh, i hate, i hate, I HATE MS Word |
| 18:44.02 | mindjuju | and word HTML |
| 18:44.09 | mindjuju | why do they even call it HTML |
| 18:44.11 | mindjuju | it's not |
| 18:44.26 | mindjuju | should me WordML |
| 18:47.09 | mgeary | or just "garbage" |
| 18:47.59 | mindjuju | after reading this month's MSDN mag, i've decided i'm gonig to boycott IE |
| 18:48.17 | mindjuju | to heck with them adding "extra features" and sucking so badly at standards |
| 18:49.43 | mgeary | strick9: ping |
| 18:49.55 | herlo | Utah_Dave: ping |
| 18:50.14 | herlo | Utah_Dave: thinking about importing dates, how are you dealing with that in your script.... |
| 18:54.14 | herlo | Utah_Dave: thinking of converting the dates which look like '1/1/2009 3:30:00 PM' to time stamps in the script too |
| 19:04.21 | carmony | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgJYCpRr5yI - omg |
| 19:04.22 | carmony | wow |
| 19:05.51 | wps | and for once, it's actually appropriate to same OMG |
| 19:06.01 | wps | â¦Â as we desperately need His help |
| 19:06.13 | wps | s/same/say/ |
| 19:06.53 | carmony | I don't always agree with Glenn Beck, but that video is pretty serious |
| 19:07.37 | dataw0lf | I told my friends yesterday, that if we turned on FOX, in 5 minutes, we'd see or hear something outrageous. |
| 19:07.46 | unum | I don't know that I ever agree with Glenn Beck |
| 19:07.48 | dataw0lf | Two minutes into Hannity, a commentator says this (direct quote): |
| 19:08.12 | dataw0lf | "Obama is pushing all this pork into the plan to prove he's not a Muslim." |
| 19:08.18 | dataw0lf | no, seriously, direct quote. |
| 19:08.31 | dataw0lf | I didn't know whether to laugh or cry. |
| 19:09.52 | mgeary | wait. Of course Obama's a muslim |
| 19:09.56 | mgeary | i have the email right here |
| 19:09.58 | Utah_Dave | herlo: that isn't hard |
| 19:10.21 | mgeary | he even took his Oath of Office on the Koran |
| 19:10.21 | Utah_Dave | you can format the timestamp however you want |
| 19:10.52 | mgeary | and then he went to Wal*Mart and bought some guns, because he heard they were all going to be illegal soon |
| 19:11.24 | herlo | Utah_Dave: yeah, but in sqlite it won't sort by it because it doesn't believe it to be a date |
| 19:11.29 | herlo | it thinks that's a string |
| 19:11.42 | Utah_Dave | oh, I see. |
| 19:12.03 | herlo | yeah |
| 19:12.07 | Utah_Dave | why do you want it formatted differently? |
| 19:12.22 | herlo | well, I want it to be inserted as a date actually |
| 19:12.39 | herlo | but your script treats everything as a string right? |
| 19:12.46 | carmony | dataw0lf: I agree FOX sometimes runs crazy stuff, but on the flip side, you can't ignore the fact about what the federal reserve is doing. |
| 19:12.53 | herlo | so I'd need to be able to sort by date, thus the formatting is incorrect to do so |
| 19:13.22 | Utah_Dave | well, sqlite treats everything like a string |
| 19:13.22 | herlo | Utah_Dave: looks like this: '1/8/2009 3:26:00 PM' |
| 19:13.22 | Utah_Dave | but it will sort by that timestamp, though |
| 19:13.28 | mgeary | carmony: what the fed is doing is issuing treasury bonds, which are being bought all over the world. This is what's driving their ability to print more cash. It's not the same as just arbitrarily printing money |
| 19:13.29 | herlo | Utah_Dave: not like that it wont, at least not correctly |
| 19:13.31 | Utah_Dave | I sort on that when I export |
| 19:13.47 | herlo | I could do that I guess |
| 19:13.48 | carmony | yeah, but we have to pay those bonds back |
| 19:13.52 | mgeary | we do |
| 19:14.03 | carmony | Many countries are now refusing to buy our bonds now |
| 19:14.05 | dataw0lf | carmony: I find it hard to pay attention to any commentator that regularly lies |
| 19:14.09 | carmony | because we're prinitng sooooo much |
| 19:14.12 | mgeary | carmony: no they're not |
| 19:14.15 | mgeary | they're eating them up |
| 19:14.16 | herlo | Utah_Dave: but I'd rather have the data be useful in sqlite |
| 19:14.23 | mgeary | because the dollar is seen as a safe haven in these crazy times |
| 19:14.34 | herlo | Utah_Dave: especially if others are going to write reports against it in the future |
| 19:14.49 | carmony | No, it isn't, the Dollar is *losing* value right now. |
| 19:15.03 | Utah_Dave | ok |
| 19:15.04 | mgeary | have you seen the dollar versus the Euro lately? |
| 19:15.15 | mgeary | compare it to 2 or 3 years ago |
| 19:15.22 | Utah_Dave | herlo: hey, I gotta go to a meeting, I'll be back in a little while |
| 19:15.24 | mgeary | the dollar is much stronger now than it's been in a long time |
| 19:15.28 | herlo | Utah_Dave: so I'm just writing a quick conversion script to make it work for me |
| 19:15.30 | herlo | Utah_Dave: nw |
| 19:15.35 | fungus | ORDER BY strftime('%s',datecolumn) |
| 19:15.52 | herlo | fungus: with that format? |
| 19:16.05 | herlo | 12:13 <+herlo> Utah_Dave: looks like this: '1/8/2009 3:26:00 PM' |
| 19:16.05 | fungus | That format %s is a unix timestamp |
| 19:16.10 | mgeary | i'm not saying things are ducky, but this is the situation as i understand it |
| 19:16.11 | herlo | fungus: it won't compute |
| 19:16.29 | fungus | ahh, the format already stored isn't a date... I get it now. |
| 19:16.31 | herlo | but that's what I'm converting to... |
| 19:16.36 | herlo | :) |
| 19:16.46 | dataw0lf | the dollar is still the safe haven currency |
| 19:16.52 | herlo | fungus: I've already got most of it in place too :-D |
| 19:17.01 | carmony | I just think the goverment needs to *stop* throwing money at the enconomy |
| 19:17.23 | dataw0lf | carmony: well that's a fundamental difference in economic theory. |
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| 19:18.00 | dataw0lf | and it isn't really "throwing at the economy" |
| 19:18.17 | wps | yeahâ¦Â it's more like flushing it down the toilet |
| 19:18.50 | dataw0lf | well what's the other school of thought? Just let the economy save itself? This has been proposed but free market theories are just that. Theories. They've never been proven. |
| 19:19.00 | dataw0lf | (in practice) |
| 19:19.08 | mgeary | what they're doing is damage control |
| 19:19.17 | dataw0lf | people say FDR extended the great depression and WW2 lifted us out of it |
| 19:19.29 | dataw0lf | They completely ignore the fact that _federal spending_ during WW2 lifted us out of it. |
| 19:19.36 | dataw0lf | it was just spent on defense |
| 19:19.53 | dataw0lf | the federal government stimulated the economy by supplying jobs manufacturing weapons. |
| 19:19.55 | carmony | Ok, so when the goverment steps in and buys 40% of the citigroup, its plumets to record lows? |
| 19:20.13 | dataw0lf | carmony: well I don't agree on everything that's been done, that's for sure. |
| 19:20.33 | dataw0lf | I certainly think there's a difference between giving money to the banks and the stimulus / recovery package Obama has been working, though. |
| 19:20.44 | dataw0lf | lumping them all together is pretty ridiculous. |
| 19:21.31 | carmony | See, thats my problem with the administration right now. They think the solution for every problem is goverment involvement. I think the goverment needs to stop trying to control the market. |
| 19:21.46 | mgeary | heh |
| 19:21.48 | mgeary | really? |
| 19:21.56 | mgeary | we just had 8 years of that |
| 19:22.00 | mgeary | worked like a charm |
| 19:22.21 | wps | hogwash |
| 19:22.26 | wps | it's the people's fault |
| 19:22.37 | mgeary | combined with a lack of regulatino |
| 19:22.41 | wps | the government didn't screw the economyâ¦Â the people did |
| 19:22.45 | wps | they screwed themselves |
| 19:22.52 | mgeary | ...combined with a lack of regulation |
| 19:22.53 | carmony | mgeary, it was clinton who loosened regulation |
| 19:23.04 | wps | they lived beyond their means and overextended themselves |
| 19:23.28 | wps | no one forced them to run up $10,000 on a credit card and get a $500,000 mortgage |
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| 19:24.02 | dataw0lf | Yes, it's just the people's fault. |
| 19:24.05 | dataw0lf | >_< |
| 19:24.06 | mgeary | wps: but if the banks had been better monitored, they wouldn't have been able to issue a $500k mortgage on a $250k house |
| 19:24.21 | unum | the government needs to be involved in the market on many different levels |
| 19:24.26 | wps | let the banks offer what ever they want |
| 19:24.27 | dataw0lf | Lenders and brokers who regularly lied to people about refinancing and such, they have no responsibility in the matter. |
| 19:24.33 | unum | they make sure my food is safe and that my toys are not full of led |
| 19:24.34 | wps | there's a guy that sells poo online, but I don't buy it |
| 19:24.35 | carmony | the only reason they went out so far on sub-prime lonas is the goverment tried to keep interest rates artificially low |
| 19:24.43 | unum | that the drugs the doctor prescribes will not kill me |
| 19:25.21 | carmony | dataw0lf: they do, when their loans go belly up, they lose money. That is their consiquence. But instead now the goverment is stepping in and bailing them out of that too |
| 19:25.22 | wps | yes, government has a role (such as regulating and enforcing laws), but most of our problem is stupid people and people need to feel/deal with the consequences of being stupid or the situation (and they) will never change |
| 19:26.03 | unum | i don't think people will ever change |
| 19:26.25 | unum | you are think individuals will change and it's true some of them will |
| 19:26.35 | unum | but as mass I don't think we will change much |
| 19:26.41 | wps | I have no debt, live in a modest home, and am prepared (supplies, food, etc). I wouldn't notice that we're in hard times except that I read it in the news. I understand that I have been extremely blessed but it's not just because the sun shined on meâ¦Â my parents were wise as well. |
| 19:27.18 | dataw0lf | my family lived on food stamps until the time I was about 12 |
| 19:27.23 | dataw0lf | I guess we're welfare queens, eh? |
| 19:27.29 | wps | and, before you slam meâ¦Â I'm not saying that we should turn our eyes from the less fortunate and let them starve to death |
| 19:27.32 | dataw0lf | oh, no, wait my mom's now a doctor and my dad's a professor. |
| 19:27.44 | unum | dataw0lf: excellent example |
| 19:27.50 | wps | absolutely |
| 19:27.54 | dataw0lf | it's not about lazy people |
| 19:28.02 | dataw0lf | most people who get helped by the government _aren't_ lazy |
| 19:28.08 | wps | but the problem is not Bush's, Bill's, or any other president'sâ¦Â it's the people's |
| 19:28.21 | dataw0lf | I've lived in and around poverty my whole life, trust me on that. |
| 19:28.32 | carmony | I'm not saying we should get rid of some goverment assistance. Its the concept that the goverment is the solution to *everything*, which is wrong. |
| 19:28.34 | unum | people need training, and I think the government should help with that |
| 19:28.45 | wps | amen, unum |
| 19:28.54 | wps | if they are willing to learn, teach them to fish |
| 19:28.56 | wps | don't give them a fish |
| 19:29.09 | dataw0lf | bull. If you don't have anything to eat in the meantime it's hard to, y'know, fish. |
| 19:29.12 | wps | and for crying out loud, quite giving money to CEOs |
| 19:29.22 | wps | s/quite/quit/ |
| 19:29.28 | dataw0lf | if you provide people with a base to start from, most of them will succeed. |
| 19:29.46 | unum | obama has capped ceo's it was bush who didn't do that |
| 19:30.09 | wps | and if a business was mismanaged and supply and demand no longer support itâ¦Â why on earth would you prop it up? it's dead! let it die! |
| 19:30.39 | wps | businesses fail all the timeâ¦Â they come and goâ¦Â supply and demand ebbs and flows |
| 19:30.39 | unum | why are you picking on obama when it was done by "conservatives" as well |
| 19:30.47 | unum | mccain even supported it |
| 19:30.55 | carmony | companies failing is a part of capitalism, and if you artificially try to prevent that, you just make it worse |
| 19:31.03 | wps | amen, carmony |
| 19:31.10 | wps | ei: let GM freaking die already |
| 19:31.10 | dataw0lf | I'm not arguing about company bailouts |
| 19:31.20 | dataw0lf | I'm arguing about the recovery package, which is completely different. |
| 19:31.21 | carmony | I feel very disenfranchised (sp?) from the republican party |
| 19:31.29 | unum | fine lets say I accept your stance. why are you attacking obama when mccain supported |
| 19:31.41 | wps | yes, dataw0lf, it's important to clarify what we're talking about |
| 19:31.41 | unum | you can complain about all of our national leaders |
| 19:31.43 | unum | that's fine |
| 19:31.56 | unum | you singled out obama |
| 19:32.29 | wps | I'm fine with Obama's plan if it encourages people to learn skills, go to school, and get jobs |
| 19:32.29 | carmony | It is his signature. If people support me to do something, but at the end of the day, if my signature is on the piece of paper, its my responsibility |
| 19:32.36 | unum | I guess others do go about blaming bush for the war, but clinton and kerry voted for it(and I voted against both of them) |
| 19:32.38 | wps | I am completely against bailout money for banks and businesses |
| 19:33.08 | unum | the bailout money he's currently using was signed for by bush |
| 19:33.17 | wps | my number one criticism of Obama right now is him lying to us about the package. He says it has no earmarks. That's a straight up lie. |
| 19:33.22 | unum | or did he get more now? |
| 19:33.39 | unum | or we are discussing how he's asking for more |
| 19:33.43 | carmony | I just think Obama 1) mis-represented how he will run the country after being elected 2) I'm extremely worried that every problem we face obama's first answer is "the goverment" |
| 19:33.59 | unum | carmony: sounds like you've been watching fox news |
| 19:34.03 | dataw0lf | wps: he said no pork |
| 19:34.12 | dataw0lf | you _want_ earmarks |
| 19:34.13 | carmony | I don't watch TV |
| 19:34.18 | dataw0lf | earmarks just point where money is supposed to go |
| 19:34.20 | carmony | I read online |
| 19:34.21 | dataw0lf | that's it. |
| 19:34.25 | wps | kâ¦Â sorry⦠|
| 19:34.33 | wps | he said no porkâ¦Â but it's riddled with pork |
| 19:34.38 | dataw0lf | what pork? |
| 19:34.44 | unum | pork is a matter of opinion |
| 19:34.50 | wps | sure |
| 19:34.51 | dataw0lf | I want to hear the pork. |
| 19:34.59 | dataw0lf | lemme guess: pig manure? |
| 19:35.02 | unum | I call most of what goes on at hafb pork but my family disagrees |
| 19:35.13 | dataw0lf | or, wait the "train from LA to Vegas" |
| 19:35.17 | wps | I don't have specific examples in from of me, sorry, but I have read reports of specific things in there that do not have anything to do with creating jobs or stimilating the economy |
| 19:35.27 | dataw0lf | or, now it's actually LA to the Moonlight Bunny Ranch |
| 19:35.35 | wps | ~Moonlight Bunny Ranch |
| 19:35.41 | dataw0lf | (which is in Carson City, about 9 hours away from Vegas)( |
| 19:35.42 | wps | ~google Moonlight Bunny Ranch |
| 19:35.50 | wps | ~bunny |
| 19:35.50 | jbot | Hop Hop Hop! I'm a bunny! |
| 19:36.08 | dataw0lf | wps: FOX news has fabricated this earmark where Reid wants a billion dollars for a rail system from LA to Vegas |
| 19:36.13 | dataw0lf | then they changed it so it's from LA to the Moonlight Bunny Ranch |
| 19:36.31 | dataw0lf | all of which is lies, it's just money for a public light rail transit system ( a great way to stimulate the economy, btw) |
| 19:36.31 | unum | I'd like a rail system from here to la |
| 19:36.36 | unum | not that I would ever ride it... |
| 19:36.37 | dataw0lf | don't even have a location for it yet. |
| 19:36.39 | unum | I just like rails |
| 19:37.03 | wps | good to talk to you, by-the-way, dataw0lf |
| 19:37.14 | wps | I unfortunately don't get to use IRC much anymore |
| 19:37.16 | dataw0lf | the other one FOX is slobbering over is money to Iowa to research processing of pig manure |
| 19:37.20 | dataw0lf | wps: yea, definitely. |
| 19:37.23 | wps | (I'm behind an iron firewall at my new job) |
| 19:37.31 | dataw0lf | visiting next Friday, we're trying to do a late lunch, if you're interested. |
| 19:38.56 | unum | I have to admit the amount of freedom I have at this job is nice |
| 19:39.29 | unum | the pay may be a little lower than I could get else where but the freedom means a lot to me |
| 19:39.57 | wps | I can't even get email at work (except through a web browser) |
| 19:40.03 | unum | though the fact that I work for pure evil is a little bit unsettling |
| 19:40.17 | dataw0lf | wps: I feel ya, I'm behind the Iron Curtain myself over here |
| 19:40.23 | dataw0lf | but they have ssh open so I just pipe everything through that |
| 19:44.06 | dataw0lf | wps: anyways if you're interested in a lunch next Friday around 2pm, lemme know, I think we're doing Cajun food. |
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| 19:54.23 | dataw0lf | http://www.economist.com/printedition/displayStory.cfm?Story_ID=13237193 |
| 19:57.20 | herlo | macnewbold: get to the geek lunch! now! |
| 20:01.33 | herlo | bastard! |
| 20:01.38 | carmony | lol |
| 20:02.00 | herlo | macnewbold: wuss |
| 20:03.13 | macnewbold | ~lart herlo |
| 20:03.13 | jbot | urinates on herlo |
| 20:03.19 | macnewbold | some of us are busy working unfortunately :( |
| 20:03.27 | mgeary | eww, jbot |
| 20:03.52 | herlo | ~macnewbold |
| 20:03.53 | jbot | methinks macnewbold is a nice person, or very good in stew. Cookie Monster, or an ibot abuser |
| 20:04.05 | herlo | get yer arse here mr excuse maker |
| 20:04.43 | macnewbold | I've got a giant project that was supposed to have about a month long time line now they've only given us two weeks to finish |
| 20:05.11 | macnewbold | and another giant project for the same client was supposed to have a 3 week time line is due in the same two weeks. |
| 20:05.47 | macnewbold | so I'm kinda stuck at work a lot this month, working 80-100 hour weeks |
| 20:13.48 | herlo | oh, thats good and bad. we'll miss you :( |
| 20:15.41 | macnewbold | yeah, I'll miss you guys too |
| 20:15.58 | macnewbold | especially with it being so close, I feel lame not being able to make it :( |
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| 20:23.54 | herlo | macnewbold: yeah, you are lame! |
| 20:24.34 | macnewbold | ~nickometer h3r10 |
| 20:25.01 | carmony | lol |
| 20:25.31 | macnewbold | ~driveby carmony |
| 20:25.38 | carmony | ~lart macnewbold |
| 20:25.38 | jbot | gives macnewbold a good seeing to |
| 20:25.47 | carmony | that was lame.... |
| 20:25.48 | carmony | ~lart macnewbold |
| 20:25.48 | jbot | forces macnewbold to use Outlook Express |
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| 20:25.52 | macnewbold | ouch |
| 20:25.53 | carmony | ouch, much better |
| 20:25.54 | macnewbold | ~lart carmony |
| 20:25.54 | jbot | eats carmony and falls over dead |
| 20:25.59 | macnewbold | ? |
| 20:26.05 | macnewbold | ~burninate carmony |
| 20:26.06 | jbot | ACTION burninates carmony and thrashes him soundly with Trogdor's meat arm. |
| 20:26.50 | macnewbold | nobody gets thrashed soundly with Trogdor's meat arm and lives... |
| 20:27.08 | carmony | LOL |
| 20:29.36 | carmony | I can't access http://www.homestarrunner.com/ |
| 20:29.57 | macnewbold | that's right. you're not worthy, cause you just been burninated |
| 20:30.16 | macnewbold | it's funny, maybe they should have used strongbad.com instead... |
| 20:30.30 | macnewbold | everybody knows he's the real star |
| 20:30.37 | macnewbold | I love me some good sbemails |
| 20:33.44 | carmony | can anyone access homestarrunner.com? :P |
| 20:34.59 | DexterTheDragon | http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/homestarrunner.com |
| 20:35.22 | carmony | lol! |
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| 20:49.48 | utahcon1 | Nice banner ad... http://ifyouwanttoseewhatsonwoottodayitwouldbeeasiertojusttypewoot.com/ |
| 20:49.53 | utahcon1 | that is a working domain... |
| 20:49.56 | utahcon1 | love it! |
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| 21:26.03 | Lone_Wanderer | ~nickometer Lone_Wanderer |
| 21:26.09 | Lone_Wanderer | That's right. |
| 21:26.14 | mgeary | ~karma Lone_Wanderer |
| 21:26.14 | jbot | lone_wanderer has karma of 1 |
| 21:26.22 | mgeary | goooo Lone_Wanderer |
| 21:26.57 | Lone_Wanderer | Only one? |
| 21:27.14 | Lone_Wanderer | I must have sinned grievously in a former life. |
| 21:27.50 | Lone_Wanderer | Okay, Current Employer loses. Time to find a new job. |
| 21:28.42 | Lone_Wanderer | At noon today: "We need to have these changes done by today at five!" "Oh, those aren't bad. Did they just call about it now?" "No they emailed it a few days ago." |
| 21:29.19 | Lone_Wanderer | At 12:36: "I'm going to lunch, I'll call with the details in a little bit." It's now 2:30. Haven't heard a thing. |
| 21:30.15 | Lone_Wanderer | Also, FTP server only works sporadically. I think I'm going to look into construction. |
| 21:34.57 | mgeary | ~lart the heck out of tinyMCE for not allowing relative urls |
| 21:34.57 | jbot | drops a truckload of VAXen on the heck out of tinyMCE for not allowing relative urls |
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| 22:50.32 | thebigdog | i guess everyone is at lunch still |
| 22:50.41 | mgeary | hey |
| 22:51.32 | mgeary | who has lunch til 4 |
| 22:51.36 | mgeary | i mean, seriously |
| 22:51.40 | mgeary | who pays these people? |
| 22:52.12 | unum | pay, you guys get paid? |
| 22:52.21 | carmony | its news to me too |
| 22:52.48 | mgeary | $2 a day! it's twice the global average! |
| 22:57.55 | mgeary | big meeting? |
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| 23:30.57 | unum | ya once a month I sit down with mangement and show them what I did and they tell me what i should be doing |
| 23:34.44 | thebigdog | unum who do you work for again? |
| 23:35.41 | itimber | I'm out... have a good weekend all |
| 23:38.04 | SunSparc | Mmmm, humus and gouda on Triscuits... tasty |
| 23:39.30 | Utah_Dave | herlo: look at this: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/620305/convert-year-month-day-to-day-of-year-in-python |
| 23:39.44 | Utah_Dave | might give you some direction for your earlier question |
| 23:40.22 | unum | thebigdog: pure evil ;) |
| 23:40.26 | unum | venturedata |
| 23:40.36 | thebigdog | the company is evil? |
| 23:40.50 | unum | we run call centers for public opinion surveys |
| 23:40.59 | unum | our clients clients are evil |
| 23:41.11 | unum | riaa,walmart,mccain |
| 23:41.28 | thebigdog | oh nice |
| 23:45.36 | mgeary | everyone who needs an image boost |
| 23:46.02 | dataw0lf | I wouldn't say McCain is evil. |
| 23:46.38 | SunSparc | yet, also not good incarnate. ;) |
| 23:46.53 | unum | I actually don't mind mccain much |
| 23:47.00 | unum | I didn't really care who won until he picked palin |
| 23:47.21 | unum | I really like that mccain is strong on campaign finance reform and earmarks |
| 23:47.29 | SunSparc | I cared who won until Paul dropped out. |
| 23:47.59 | dataw0lf | unum: well he kinda had to take that stance after the rather... embarrassing corruption charges he's been embroiled in. |
| 23:48.14 | SunSparc | :) |
| 23:48.34 | dataw0lf | Paul is honest at least. |
| 23:48.52 | unum | unlike that romney guy ;P |
| 23:48.54 | dataw0lf | I disagree with a lot of his fiscal policy ideas but he's a good man. |
| 23:48.54 | SunSparc | Yes, and seems to really care about doing the right thing for America. |
| 23:49.32 | unum | it really bothered me how many of the same people called kerry a flip flopper and had no problem with romney |
| 23:49.40 | unum | identity politics at its finest |
| 23:50.12 | mgeary | unum: yeah, i didn't have a real problem with Romney until he started doing that |
| 23:50.19 | dataw0lf | I think Kerry suffered worse attacks then the whole flip flopper thing. The PACs that were involved in defaming his service should have their buildings set on fire. |
| 23:50.20 | mgeary | trying to become the man the GOP wanted him to be |
| 23:50.23 | unum | I liked him as the gov of MA |
| 23:50.26 | unum | I liked him a lot |
| 23:50.40 | dataw0lf | well, I'm pretty sure Romney is one of the last hopes for a 2012 run the Republicans have. |
| 23:51.04 | dataw0lf | I'd be pleased if they stuck with Palin and Jindal (bloooooooow out), of course, but Romney seems to be one of the few contenders. |
| 23:51.22 | carmony | I think Romney would do well as president |
| 23:51.24 | unum | I'd like to see them pick someone from one of the factions :) |
| 23:51.32 | unum | not someone trying to bridge them |
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| 23:51.57 | unum | carmony: I just wonder which romney would be president |
| 23:52.07 | unum | it's really hard to know where he changed so quickly |
| 23:52.19 | unum | but I guess it would be the guy he ran for president as |
| 23:52.19 | dataw0lf | as much as I disagree with, well, everything Huckabee has to say, I like the guy. |
| 23:52.23 | unum | in which case I wouldn't want him |
| 23:52.56 | SunSparc | One thing Huckabee has going for him is Chuck Norris support. ;) |
| 23:52.58 | unum | my problem with conservatives is that they DO want government to solve problems |
| 23:53.05 | unum | mostly ones that I don't think are problems |
| 23:53.10 | unum | like gay marriage |
| 23:53.27 | unum | and other problems they try to solve incorrectly(drugs) |
| 23:53.55 | carmony | but how are librals trying to solve drugs that is different? |
| 23:54.03 | dataw0lf | unum: it's fairly hypocritical to be up in arms when the government wants to get involved in your business and finances but then want it to dictate the very personal love lives of others. |
| 23:54.12 | unum | legalize it and treat addicts |
| 23:54.18 | unum | and tax the crap out of it |
| 23:54.23 | dataw0lf | unum: a lot of democrats don't agree with that, unfortunately |
| 23:54.31 | SunSparc | On that note, I think I will call it a day. Have a great weekend all! CoD4 on the Rain server in T minus 4:00 |
| 23:54.45 | dataw0lf | but Obama and Holder have already said the DEA isn't going to make a priority out of raiding state legal dispensaries |
| 23:54.50 | carmony | I don't see any democrats running that with their platform right now |
| 23:54.51 | dataw0lf | which is a step in the right direction. |
| 23:54.51 | unum | I got the city builder games from impression this week |
| 23:55.01 | unum | I think I need to reinstall cedega though |
| 23:55.13 | unum | carmony: you said liberals |
| 23:55.19 | carmony | true |
| 23:55.26 | unum | we must have different definitions of the word |
| 23:55.34 | unum | democrats mostly don't run with it because they will lose |
| 23:56.00 | unum | you will see democrats suggest it in the primary |
| 23:56.19 | unum | and some of your democrats from liberal states will suggest it |
| 23:56.35 | unum | nader has it as his platform |
| 23:57.11 | carmony | Drugs are a hard issue |
| 23:57.21 | dataw0lf | it's not a hard issue.... |
| 23:57.29 | dataw0lf | if you're going to use them you're going to use them whether or not they're legal |
| 23:57.32 | dataw0lf | just like alcohol |
| 23:57.34 | dataw0lf | and cigarettes |
| 23:57.41 | dataw0lf | and whathaveyou |
| 23:57.49 | dataw0lf | if you're not going to use them, same applies. |
| 23:58.03 | dataw0lf | it's a lose/lose situation criminalizing stuff like drugs. |
| 23:58.09 | carmony | I don't think legalization would have a huge impact on who is using them and who isnt |
| 23:58.23 | dataw0lf | then what's the argument against legalization? |
| 23:58.31 | dataw0lf | or at least decriminalization. |
| 23:59.12 | carmony | Well, I'm trying to think of a way to help lessen the burden on society that many drug addicts impose. |
| 23:59.46 | dataw0lf | you turn it into a medical issue and treat them |
| 23:59.56 | mindjuju | while i haven't taken drugs myself and can't speak from first hand, i think the legalization of drugs would work if all drug users had high paying jobs (whereby they could afford the ever increasing amounts) and said employer didn't mind you coming in toasted |
| 23:59.58 | dataw0lf | and don't shove them into jail where they learn to be a real criminal. |