| 00:00.16 | dataw0lf | ^5 thebigdog |
| 00:00.30 | thebigdog | ty |
| 00:00.49 | thebigdog | wps, i just think that is a stupid error that they have |
| 00:06.25 | fungus | ~literal cmd: compliment (.*?) |
| 00:06.25 | jbot | "cmd: compliment (.*?)" is "($1): <action> compliments $1 for $who" |
| 00:07.55 | fungus | ~forget cmd: compliment (.*?) |
| 00:08.13 | wps | jbot, die |
| 00:08.14 | jbot | ACTION takes two shots to the head and crumples to the ground, lifeless. |
| 00:08.27 | wps | stupid bot |
| 00:08.28 | fungus | ibot, no compliment $1 is <action> plops himself at $1s feet with an adoring gaze and murmurs, "ooh $1, that was truly wonderful" |
| 00:08.40 | mgeary | ~retarded jbot |
| 00:08.41 | fungus | jbot, no compliment $1 is <action> plops himself at $1s feet with an adoring gaze and murmurs, "ooh $1, that was truly wonderful" |
| 00:08.42 | jbot | fungus: okay |
| 00:08.50 | fungus | ~compliment jbot |
| 00:08.51 | jbot | ACTION plops himself at jbots feet with an adoring gaze and murmurs, "ooh jbot, that was truly wonderful" |
| 00:08.54 | mgeary | there we go |
| 00:08.57 | mgeary | ~fungus++ |
| 00:09.00 | mgeary | ~karma fungus |
| 00:09.00 | jbot | fungus has karma of 17 |
| 00:09.04 | fungus | woot |
| 00:09.09 | mgeary | ~karma thebigdog |
| 00:09.09 | jbot | thebigdog has karma of 11 |
| 00:09.15 | mgeary | ~karma mgeary |
| 00:09.15 | jbot | mgeary has karma of 14 |
| 00:09.15 | wps | 11? |
| 00:09.17 | wps | 11? |
| 00:09.17 | mgeary | hey hey |
| 00:09.18 | wps | really? |
| 00:09.27 | mgeary | thebigdog has a karma leak |
| 00:09.32 | wps | ha ha ha ha |
| 00:09.33 | thebigdog | probably |
| 00:09.42 | mgeary | actually, i come in late at night and notch his karma down when no one's around |
| 00:09.51 | thebigdog | that sounds more like it |
| 00:43.17 | mgeary | wow |
| 00:43.27 | mgeary | google holds their entire search index in memory |
| 00:43.42 | wps | really? |
| 00:43.53 | wps | that's nuts |
| 00:44.11 | mgeary | http://www.labnol.org/internet/search/google-query-uses-1000-machines/7433/ |
| 00:44.45 | wps | 1000 machines for a single query? |
| 00:46.50 | Lone_Wanderer | mgeary: So their search index of the entire 'net is held in RAM? |
| 00:47.00 | mgeary | well, that's what it sounds like |
| 00:48.05 | mgeary | later all |
| 00:48.15 | Lone_Wanderer | Looks like the start of the Techno Core. |
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| 02:07.38 | Utah_Dave | any dhcp gurus here? |
| 02:29.40 | thebigdog | Utah_Dave, what you need? |
| 02:30.16 | Utah_Dave | OK, I have a vendor who wants to make all our dhcp leases infinitely long |
| 02:30.35 | Utah_Dave | because he doesn't want to IP address to change right in the middle of recording audio |
| 02:31.33 | Utah_Dave | "If the DHCP lease ends on Thursday at 10:45 am and the user is recording audio right then, (over the network with his app) then it will screw up the app |
| 02:31.33 | thebigdog | k |
| 02:31.33 | Utah_Dave | Does that sound right? I didn't think DHCP leases worked like that |
| 02:32.09 | thebigdog | well if you want just set the ip address with the mac |
| 02:32.20 | thebigdog | so the mac will always have the same ip address |
| 02:32.27 | thebigdog | from the dhcp server |
| 02:32.30 | thebigdog | that is what i do |
| 02:32.44 | Utah_Dave | but do the IP addresses change abruptly like that? |
| 02:33.14 | thebigdog | not really |
| 02:33.22 | thebigdog | whenever they connect they renew the time |
| 02:33.47 | Utah_Dave | It seems kind of weird to me. It's causing us headaches because we have to monitor the number of IP addresses left in that scope |
| 02:33.56 | Utah_Dave | and clear out old ones |
| 02:34.33 | thebigdog | do you have more clients than ip addresses |
| 02:34.47 | Utah_Dave | I guess testing would be the best thing to do. |
| 02:35.34 | Utah_Dave | thebigdog: no, we have more IP's than computers, but we replace 1/3 or the computers every year. And occasional laptops and replacement computers that get put on the network |
| 02:35.39 | Utah_Dave | It adds up over a year |
| 02:36.04 | thebigdog | dont your releases clean up? |
| 02:36.27 | Utah_Dave | no, the guy set them to never renew the lease |
| 02:36.41 | Utah_Dave | It's one of the stupider things I've seen in a while |
| 02:37.03 | thebigdog | how do you have it setup now? |
| 02:37.24 | thebigdog | does your ip address change with each renew |
| 02:37.33 | Utah_Dave | it never renews |
| 02:38.17 | Utah_Dave | When a new computer connects to the network it is assigned an IP address lease that never expires |
| 02:38.23 | thebigdog | k |
| 02:38.39 | thebigdog | then you should not have issues with recording and getting a new ip address |
| 02:38.54 | Utah_Dave | right, that's working correctly. |
| 02:39.24 | Utah_Dave | But because the leases aren't expiring, we run into the end of our number of leases available |
| 02:40.00 | thebigdog | then you need dynamic allocation |
| 02:40.07 | Utah_Dave | and then suddenly someone won't get an address. |
| 02:40.22 | thebigdog | but you should not have an issue with the ip address |
| 02:40.36 | thebigdog | cause the renew process after you get one should not change your current ip address |
| 02:40.41 | Utah_Dave | So if I change it to dynamic allocation, do you think it will cause the problem of switching to a new IP address right while the user is working? |
| 02:41.03 | Utah_Dave | OK, that's what I was thinking. |
| 02:41.06 | thebigdog | probably not |
| 02:41.19 | thebigdog | even then it should not be an issue |
| 02:41.22 | Utah_Dave | It just seems they're freaking out about something that's a non-issues |
| 02:41.30 | thebigdog | cause the routing tables would be updated based on the packets |
| 02:41.31 | Utah_Dave | and causing us another headache that's not needed. |
| 02:41.57 | thebigdog | you could test it out with static ips if you wanted too |
| 02:42.10 | Utah_Dave | yeah |
| 02:42.10 | thebigdog | just start recording and change your ip address |
| 02:42.30 | thebigdog | but your recording is probably tcp/ip anyways |
| 02:42.39 | Utah_Dave | it's all tcp/ip |
| 02:42.46 | thebigdog | which means that you will have the network dealing with drop packets |
| 02:42.57 | thebigdog | it would really only be an issue if you where using udp |
| 02:43.12 | thebigdog | cause basically if you drop a packet it will ask for that packet to be resent |
| 02:43.19 | Utah_Dave | Yeah, this seems like an issue that they figured out and fixed back in 1974 or something |
| 02:43.25 | thebigdog | yeah |
| 02:43.35 | Utah_Dave | ok, thanks, thebigdog |
| 02:43.41 | thebigdog | but you could test it out and determine the latency |
| 02:43.49 | Utah_Dave | I'm going to get permission to do some testing. |
| 02:44.02 | Utah_Dave | I just wanted to make sure I was thinking straight before sticking my neck out |
| 02:44.23 | thebigdog | yeah |
| 02:44.28 | thebigdog | tell them you can do some testing |
| 02:44.46 | thebigdog | the only thing i can see is perhaps hicups or something in the full streaming |
| 02:44.56 | thebigdog | but then again you are probably buffering no? |
| 02:45.04 | thebigdog | for this very issue |
| 02:46.07 | Utah_Dave | Yeah, I think everything is buffered. The users are just playing audio over the network. So it's not a huge issue if the get a small hiccup in the audio anyways. |
| 02:47.22 | thebigdog | yeah |
| 02:49.16 | Utah_Dave | thanks, thebigdog |
| 02:49.20 | Utah_Dave | time for me to go home |
| 02:49.22 | thebigdog | np Utah_Dave |
| 02:49.22 | Utah_Dave | later |
| 02:49.24 | Lone_Wanderer | o/ |
| 02:49.26 | thebigdog | night |
| 02:49.32 | Lone_Wanderer | PAST time for you to go home |
| 02:49.57 | Lone_Wanderer | did you go to the lunch today thebigdog? |
| 02:50.23 | thebigdog | no i did not...i get to work from home on fridays |
| 02:51.13 | thebigdog | you Lone_Wanderer ? |
| 02:52.32 | Lone_Wanderer | no |
| 02:52.38 | Lone_Wanderer | kind of (really) ticked about it |
| 02:52.44 | Lone_Wanderer | but it's a long story I don't want to dwell on |
| 02:53.03 | Lone_Wanderer | I know a guy from the Army (speaking of IP addresses) |
| 02:53.09 | thebigdog | oh not attending |
| 02:53.33 | Lone_Wanderer | he used to live with (or something? he didn't go into detail) a prostitute |
| 02:53.56 | Lone_Wanderer | and he posted her ads on craigslist |
| 02:54.09 | Lone_Wanderer | but he didn't want to get caught so he set his IP to expire every hour |
| 02:54.27 | Lone_Wanderer | apparently he thought that this would prevent the police from finding out who posted the ads. |
| 03:02.21 | Lone_Wanderer | (I mocked him.) |
| 03:16.08 | thebigdog | haha |
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| 20:17.19 | Lone_Wanderer | Great Joseph Scott! |
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| 20:53.46 | thebigdog | hehe |
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