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00:09.52thebigdogfungus, you there?
00:10.22herlono
00:10.29herlowell, maybe
00:10.34herloactually, I don't know
00:26.56itimberI'm out guys
00:26.58itimberlate
00:38.56beandogay
00:38.59beandogtanto para hacer.
01:05.59fungusWhoops, I am now.  
01:08.06funguswell... not anymore again.
02:13.03herlocoming up, Matt Harrison presents on Scripting at Utah Python - http://stream.utos.org:8080
02:28.23herloNow on http://stream.utos.org:8080 -  Matt Harrison presents on Scripting at Utah Python
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14:25.46jsmithBuenos donuts, mis queridos amigos!
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14:50.39Utah_Davemmm. donuts
14:53.37jsmithYou know what they say... a donut is as good as half-hour of sleep
15:29.11mindjujuthey say that?
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15:48.40jsmithmindjuju: Sure... well, by "they" I mean an old boss of mine said that, and preached it every Friday
15:49.35herloheh
15:49.46herloIt's FIRDAY!!
15:49.51herloyes, FIRDAY!
15:49.53jsmith~fir herlo
15:50.01tonedevfw00 w00
15:50.01herloand soon 1234567890
15:50.10brastosweet
15:50.51herlobrasto: is silly
15:51.07herlobrasto: should be running irssi over ssh from his home desktop
15:51.55brastoherlo, is irssi the cli client you use on a vps that stays always connected?
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15:54.37carmonymorning :)
15:54.47brastoteach those net admins for blocking non-destructive chat ports, I'll just connect to my home machine and do the chatting anyway...
15:56.16mindjujuk, this is WAY cool, but the coolest thing about this tech from dude from MIT is that it uses the oldsk00l speak and spell sounds
15:56.16mindjujuhttp://www.ted.com/talks/david_merrill_demos_siftables_the_smart_blocks.html
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16:06.14tonedevfreminds me of reactable from a few years back... http://mtg.upf.es/reactable/?media
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16:09.43mindjujuthat's an awesome link tonedevf
16:10.57brastoalright, so my ssh connection froze for some reason.... i guess I'm stuck with mibbit for another day...
16:15.39mgearywhere you at, brasto?
16:15.49brastoherlo: if you said anything about that chat client you use, I missed it when my ssh session froze
16:16.10brastothen I missed it
16:16.39brastomgeary: I'm at the Intermountain Medical Center in Murray - the new Murray hospital
16:17.30brastomy wife caught pneumonia
16:18.58brastoi'm happy they offer wireless at hospitals, but blocking chat ports doesn't accomplish any security, and seems a bit petty to me.  Maybe I'm just missing something though.
16:19.31fungusIt block the idiots that click on links sent via IM
16:21.16brastofungus, like that pearl necklace one you sent?
16:22.02brastoI, unfortunately, knew what the term means, so I knew better than to click it :)
16:22.23fungusme?  i've never sent any pearl necklace links.  
16:22.31fungusBut no, I mean links to viruses.
16:22.41funguseww
16:22.44fungusbad image
16:22.48fungusbad bad bad
16:23.09fungus~flush memory
16:23.10jbotACTION flushes memory like memory was yesterday's lunch
16:23.14brastothat makes sense.  I suppose not getting a virus is a good security practice
16:24.26fungusSending viruses via links in IM is commonplace.  And the idiots that can't get around the port blocking are the ones that click on them.
16:25.11brastoof course, anyone who knows how to use irc is likely to be someone who knows how to get around port blocking.
16:25.39brastothe only people i know who have any idea at all what irc is are all computer geeks
16:25.46fungusGenerally, yes.  But that port blocking is often to prevent bots from calling home
16:26.13brastook, that makes sense, too.
16:26.57fungusBut in general, the only good way to handle the firewall for a bunch of retard users, is to block *everything* except the few ports/addresses that are allowed.
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16:28.55brastoheh, i thought the message said 'ChanServ has given /up/ to thebigdog'
16:29.20thebigdogoh it has
16:29.59jsmithPoeticIntensity: Had a chance to look at that SOAP stuff yet?
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16:35.13DexterTheDragonhappy 1234567890 day everyone!
16:35.20SunSparcWOOHOOO!!!!!
16:36.03DexterTheDragon##1234567890 on irc.freenode.net
16:36.03brastohuh?
16:36.31DexterTheDragonbrasto: http://www.1234567890day.com/
16:37.04DexterTheDragonhttp://coolepochcountdown.com/
16:39.22brastocool!  Only a true geek would know about that!  Good job DexterTheDragon!
16:39.31brasto~pet DexterTheDragon
16:39.32jbotACTION reaches over and pets DexterTheDragon on the head, saying "There, there! It'll all be ok!"
16:40.51DexterTheDragondance
16:40.54DexterTheDragon~dance
16:40.55jbot<(*.*<) <(*.*)> \(*.*)/ (>*.*)>
16:42.01DexterTheDragonwhich means were also going to reach 1234543210 today too
16:42.06brastoIt boggles my mind that ooocon still hasn't been hosted in the United states
16:42.42brastoit boggles my mind that latvia and iceland have more people that want to host the conference than the US
16:44.56brastonext year, the conference will be in Egypt, Hungary, India, Italy, Philippines, Latvia, or Iceland
16:48.59brastoDexterTheDragon: are you the dude that posted about 1234567890 day on the BYU UUG mail list?
16:49.25DexterTheDragonno
16:50.41brastoDexterTheDragon: did you find out about the day because of an email about it to the BYU UUG?
16:50.59DexterTheDragonnope
17:01.51brastook, then I won't take back the praise ;)
17:01.55brastojk
17:02.18brastowell, not jk, since i said i /won't/ take it back...
17:10.05mgearygah
17:10.40DexterTheDragonmindjuju: MC Hammer and Vanilla Ice present "Hammer Pants and Ice" in Orem, Utah, Feb 27 @ 8PM at the McKay Events Center http://tinyurl.com/bqmyea
17:10.40mgearyturns out the file has Windows linebreaks, and python isn't accomodating that
17:12.59mindjujuoh herlo
17:13.08herlooh mindjuju
17:13.23mindjujuguess what's coming to my neck of the woods?
17:13.24carmonylol http://www.geekologie.com/2007/07/geek_squad_is_stealing_your_po.php
17:13.36herlomindjuju: UPHPU?
17:14.22mindjujuread it and weep, bro -  i guess you'll be coming over here a bunch - http://deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,705284759,00.html
17:14.36carmonyOMG
17:14.39carmonyWTF>!>!>!
17:14.46herlomindjuju: yes, I heard about that this morning from the gf
17:14.55carmonyMan, I want one in Ogden!
17:15.26herloit's crazy, it's supposed to be a SoCal only thing, but now they've gone and made it so non-exclusive.  I just don't wanna go now.
17:15.27mgearyoh goody. More SoCal coming to Utah
17:15.33mindjujudude, i'd trade in all the mcdonalds in utah for 1 popeyes fried chicken
17:15.41herlomindjuju: wouldn't we all
17:16.52SunSparcIN-N-OUT is over rated.  The burgers are good, don't get me wrong, but not worth the hype.
17:17.00mindjujui've never had in-n-out, but to hear herlo tell it, it's fantastic
17:17.07mgearymeh
17:17.17mindjujuthough i have heard its greasy
17:17.18carmonyI like them :)
17:17.35mindjujunot like my beloved Whopper with Whoppery goodness
17:17.45mindjuju...sigh...
17:17.51SunSparcI much prefer a Six Dollar Jalapeno Burger with guac.
17:18.05macnewboldI've had in-n-out, but it wasn't all that.
17:18.25SunSparcLast time I had them their fries were lame.
17:18.25mindjujuthe thing i can't figure out is, there is like 10 BK in orem, but none within 5 miles of my office
17:18.40herlomindjuju: do me a favor, don't go there for at least a month after it's opened
17:18.52mindjujuwhy?
17:19.07herlobecause no matter what you do with a new restaurant, it just takes that long to get things right
17:19.16mindjujuah gotcha
17:19.19mindjujufair enough
17:19.32herloplus, the lines will not be *crazy* just wild
17:19.47mindjujudexterthedragon, your link was awesome
17:19.50mindjujui'm goign to have to go
17:19.52herloSunSparc: you have lost your mind if you think the carl's jr burger is better than a double double
17:19.56herlothe cost is lower for one
17:20.14SunSparcherlo: :)
17:20.40herlomacnewbold: you need to try again, you've obviously not gotten the right in-n-out
17:20.48SunSparcPerhaps I should try them both at the same time.  It would give me a better assessment.
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17:21.17carmonyalright, lets change the topic, cause I'm bloody hungry now!
17:21.21herloalthough I have to address one other thing 'Five Guys' has two locations here and will seriously give in-n-out a run for its money
17:21.39mindjujuwhat's five guys?
17:21.41SunSparcherlo: I have tried them in SoCal and Vegas.  Decent, but perhaps I was already so full of hype that they just could not live up to it.
17:21.44herlomindjuju: seriously?
17:21.50carmonyAnyone here been to Grideli's in South Ogden? :P
17:21.51macnewboldI went to one in vegas I think, and one in california, probably somehwere near sea world
17:22.05mindjujuherlo - srsly
17:22.09herlohttp://www.fiveguys.com/home.aspx <-- mindjuju
17:22.21herlothey have one in Sandy and one in Fort Union
17:22.54mindjujuwhere is fort union?
17:23.00herlomindjuju: midvale
17:23.06herloeast off 215
17:23.18carmonyNo one here has been to Grideli's? :(
17:23.21herlojust south, near boca di beppo actually
17:23.24herlocarmony: nope
17:23.29carmonywow
17:23.37carmonyIts sooo yummy :)
17:23.40herlocarmony: it's in Ogden
17:23.45herlonobody goes to Ogden
17:23.49herlo:)
17:23.51carmonyawww :(
17:23.52carmonylol
17:24.09carmonyIts really good
17:24.13herlowell, I go there about once a month to hack and hang out with friends, but other than that...
17:24.36herlocarmony: good to know, I'll file that in the annals for my next visit to South Ogden :)
17:24.55mindjujuyou know, i'm actually going to ogden here pretty soon
17:25.02carmonyI used to work about 5 mins from it, and when we would have visitors from out of state, they like it better than anything else out here
17:25.07herlomindjuju:  five guys is Zagat rated
17:25.20mindjujua VERY curious anomoly has appeared in the ogden area that i want to investigate
17:25.24mindjujuVERY curious
17:25.29herlowhat's that?
17:25.30carmonylol, whats that?
17:25.39herlojynx
17:25.40herlo1
17:25.40herlo2
17:25.41herlo3
17:25.41herlo4
17:25.43carmonystop
17:25.44herlo5
17:25.46carmonylol ;)
17:25.46herlo6
17:25.49herlo7
17:25.51herlo8
17:25.54herlo9
17:25.55carmonywait, what do you say to stop it? :P
17:25.56herlodarn
17:25.59herlocan't type 10 fast enough
17:26.01herlostop
17:26.02carmonylol
17:26.20carmonyanyway, mindjuju, whats curious in ogden? :P
17:26.36mindjujuhang on, i'm getting ya'll a link
17:26.36DexterTheDragonhe finds me curiously awesome
17:26.43carmonylol
17:26.47herloDexterTheDragon: we know that isn't true
17:26.50carmonyWhere in Ogden do you live again DexterTheDragon?
17:26.56herlohe's not interested in you that way
17:26.57DexterTheDragonwant to come spend a day in my presence
17:27.00herlohe's married
17:27.05mindjujuoh wait, it's not ogden, it's layton
17:27.07DexterTheDragoncarmony: west eber
17:27.12herlostop it DexterTheDragon
17:27.14DexterTheDragon/s/eber/weber
17:27.40carmonylol, I'm happily married too, so we don't have anything to worry about :P
17:27.51herlomindjuju: tell us, the suspense is killing us...
17:28.00herlomindjuju: I'm going to Layton next Wednesday...
17:28.28mindjujuk, here it is
17:28.29mindjuju<PROTECTED>
17:28.42herlo~tinyurl mindjuju
17:28.43jbotACTION runs '/exec tinyurl.sh http://maps.google.com//maps/ms?ie=UTF8&addr=mindjuju' and laughs maniacally!
17:29.03carmonylol
17:29.12mindjujuk, fine i'll tiny it
17:29.12DexterTheDragonthere's a popeyes in layton?!?
17:29.19carmony... what?
17:29.20mindjujuthat's what the site says
17:29.28herloyou should call it
17:29.35mindjujui know this is going to sound crazy
17:29.42mindjujubut i check this site like 1x a month
17:29.50mindjujuand here a couple weeks ago, pop, it showed up
17:29.56carmonywait, is that ON base?
17:29.57mindjujui was like WTH
17:30.09DexterTheDragonyeah looks like its on the base
17:30.19mindjujusurely they let the public on the base though
17:30.25mindjujulike i went on base as boy scout
17:30.33DexterTheDragonyeah its only a goverment facility
17:30.37carmonyyeah, but you have to have a reaspon to get on :P
17:30.40carmonyreason*
17:30.41DexterTheDragonthey let everybody in those
17:30.54mindjujuwell, my reason is to go to popeyes
17:30.55carmonyback in highschool
17:30.56mindjujuthat's my reason
17:30.59carmonyhaha
17:31.06mindjujuto get me some of that chicken
17:31.08DexterTheDragonpopeyes should be reason enough
17:31.14mindjujuand the red beans and rice
17:31.25mindjujuand some of them down homestyle biscuits
17:32.01mindjujumaybe they'll deliver to me outside the gate
17:32.04mindjujuif there si one
17:32.19thebigdogfungus, you around?
17:32.24mindjujuhey, carmony, don't you live in layton?
17:32.37fungusyup, I'm around.
17:32.46carmonysouth ogden
17:32.52carmonyabout 15 mins away from layton
17:33.33mindjujui'd call to see if the public can get in on some of their food, but i don't want to sound crazy
17:34.12carmonylol
17:34.18carmonyI could ask my brother
17:34.22carmonyhe works on base
17:34.59mindjujuyeah, but odn't you think the guards would think something is going on when he leaves with like 10 boxes of popeyes chicken and drives across the street and starts trading money for boxes?
17:35.08carmonylol
17:35.10carmonyI dunno
17:35.28carmonyHIll AFB lost a box of nuclear warhead parts and took them like 6 months to track them down
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17:35.43carmonysent them to South Korea on accident
17:35.48carmonyno joke
17:35.53mindjujuactually, i think it was Taiwan
17:36.02DexterTheDragonand like a crate of machine guns
17:36.02mindjujucause PROC got REALLY pissed
17:36.09unummy brother runs a database to keep track of hafb inventory
17:36.17unumhe claims he had nothing to do with that :)
17:37.17carmonylol
17:37.39carmonylol, yeah
17:37.43carmonyhttp://www.cnn.com/2008/US/03/25/taiwan.missiles/index.html
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17:39.30mgearyone day closer to getting his Mac
17:39.47carmonylol
17:39.50herlomindjujun needs to stop running winders
17:39.59carmonyI finally got XAMPP on my MacBook working
17:40.01herlos/un/u/
17:40.17carmonytook me 3 days to figure out wtf with the virtual hosts
17:41.36herlocarmony: why use xampp?  LAMP is sooo simple to set up
17:41.58carmonyI like having a little control panel to turn it on/off etc :P
17:42.17herlosrsly?
17:42.18carmonyand I've run XAMPP on my Windows machine for years
17:42.40herlowell, as long as it's just dev, I guess it's not a horrible solution
17:42.44DexterTheDragonsudo apachectrl start is lame compared to a cool button
17:42.57carmonyand I assumed the XAMPP setup for Windows would be very similar for Mac
17:42.59beandogwhats xampp?
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17:43.11carmonyand yes, I only use it for dev
17:43.31herlobeandog: lamp stack tools
17:43.34Utah_Daveherlo: have you had a chance to look at those scripts I sent you?
17:43.42herlobut they work on just about any os
17:43.42beandogoh
17:43.43carmonywithin a few weeks he was hacked
17:43.45herloUtah_Dave: I have...
17:43.57herloUtah_Dave: and I need to beat you for using python 2.6.1
17:44.12herlobut other than that, I do have a few questions for you
17:44.24Utah_DaveI know, the excel modules I needed to use don't have python 3 versions out yet
17:44.29carmonybeandog: XAMPP is basically a bundles LAMP stack design to install & run easy, but for Development only. All the security on it is turned off.
17:44.50DexterTheDragonactually I think 2.6 was too new for herlo
17:44.59herloUtah_Dave: uh, no.  I meant you used to new of a version, my CentOS 5.2 box only has 2.4
17:45.03herloDexterTheDragon: right
17:45.31Utah_Daveoh, so does the new ''.format() not work or something?
17:45.36utahconI would hate to be "that guy" but anyone know what the meeting next week is on?
17:45.38herloUtah_Dave: right
17:45.42brastoherlo has a centos box?
17:45.48herlobrasto: I have several
17:46.07Utah_Daveit shouldn't be too hard to move everything to %s type substitutions
17:46.27herloUtah_Dave: yeah, but I don't know your code that well, and I'll have to dig through it
17:46.28brastoI thought all herlo's boxes would be fedora...
17:46.30brasto:)
17:46.58herloplus I wanted to learn how to use virtualenv and see if that would help me rather than installing 2.6 in my boxen
17:47.15herlobrasto: fedora in a infrastructure is only good if you are the fedora project
17:48.06carmonyyeah, I prefer centos
17:48.29herlonot for infrastructure and stable production
17:49.14Utah_DaveI've used Fedora on production servers for over 5 years now.
17:49.41herloprobably a good move
17:49.53Utah_DaveOf course, it's on a secure internal network. Don't have to worry about security too much, so I don't update very often
17:50.23herloyou should still worry about security, multiple layers of defense :)
17:51.35herlohmm, looks like virtualenv requires 2.6 to be in place first.  It's only good if I have multiple environments.  Maybe this will work, maybe not...
17:52.19beandogcarmony, heh
17:53.07herlowatch -n 1 'd=$(date +%s); o=$((1234567890 - ${d})); echo "now=${d}; remaining=${o}"' <-- celebrate the countdown
17:53.11beandogwe use centos at work .. I have my minor gripes about it, but at least its not debian.  works well.
17:53.16herlounix/linux only
17:53.40Utah_Daveherlo: is that UTC time or MST?
17:53.42macnewboldFreeBSD++
17:53.55herloUtah_Dave: it's unix time
17:53.55beandogmacnewbold, you hippy
17:54.07Utah_Daveis unix time always UTC?
17:54.08carmonyI actually worked at a place that worked its old computers until the physically died. We had about 10 old Pentium III machines running linux for firewalls, ftp server, mail server, etc.
17:54.14herloUtah_Dave: the number happens at the same time everywhere in the world
17:54.20herloit doesn't have an offset like you think
17:54.24macnewboldsorry, that's a reflex now every time I hear people discussing distros
17:54.26herloit's just a number
17:54.43carmonyit was kinda crazy, and then they would spend $50k on powerful servers and never get around to setting them up for 6-9 months
17:54.56Utah_DaveI know it's just a number, but the date it originates from must be either UTC or have a timezone. I imagine it's UTC
17:55.23herloUtah_Dave: no, it's based upon january 1, 1970 00:00:00 UTC
17:55.29carmonyutc :P
17:55.33herlolol
17:55.51herloUtah_Dave: but as I said, it's just a number
17:55.57beandogeverything cool started in 1970.
17:56.08beandoglike tube socks.
17:56.10Utah_DaveI know. Seconds from 1 Jan 1970
17:57.12Utah_Davewell, back in a little while. Gotta go install some new fancy switches.
17:57.32herlodate -d "@0"
17:57.33herloWed Dec 31 17:00:00 MST 1969
17:58.00herloUtah_Dave: depending on how you look at it :)
17:58.24Utah_DaveI thought that was the definition of it?
17:58.50herlowell, yeah, but each timezone could say, it's blah blah bla date
17:59.00herlolike we can say Wed Dec 31 17:00:00 MST 1969
17:59.23DexterTheDragonjust like we can say its currently 11:00am
17:59.31herloright-o
18:01.19orsonjLast night I noticed that google maps has a lot of main roads now.
18:01.30carmonydude, ##1234567890 is crazy :P Its amazing to watch nerds interact when the only thing they have in common is a unix timestamp :P
18:01.38orsonjstreet view that is
18:02.02beandogcarmony, I think Im glad to say I'm not one of those people that gets excited about it
18:02.27carmonyI'm just sitting back and watching the show ;)\
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18:08.15mindjujui can't tell what is funnier?  the idea that microsoft is going to be opening stores ala Apple, or that MS PR team has already posted comments about how cool this is - http://i.gizmodo.com/5152787/confirmed-microsoft-opening-retail-stores
18:08.48carmonylol
18:08.52mindjujui need to start tracking this stuff, because their new subtle approach to twisting the blog-o-sphere is crepping me out
18:10.24beandogmindjuju, i actually think it would do well
18:10.30beandogespecially if they have a support center.
18:10.36mindjujubeandog!  when did you drop in?
18:10.43beandogbut I dont think they have anything "sexy" to market.
18:10.50beandogmindjuju, I dunno, about 30 mins ago
18:10.58mindjujui wonder if these guys ever saw WestWordl?  - http://i.gizmodo.com/5152998/korea-opening-first-robot-theme-park-for-humans
18:11.54SunSparccarmony: feeling too clean?
18:12.00carmonyI've been writing SOAP APIs for the last week, almost non-stop. :P
18:12.10beandoghttp://lmgtfy.com/
18:12.13beandogI love this site.
18:12.23beandognothing like sarcasm put to practical use
18:12.23SunSparccarmony: Gonna give yourself dry skin
18:12.41jsmithcarmony: Lucky you... I haven't touched SOAP for more than a year, until last night when I wrote up a quick tutorial for PoeticIntensity
18:12.45carmonyI'm going to look like THE THING from the Fantastic 4 if I'm not careful.
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18:12.53SunSparcbeandog: hehe, nice!
18:12.56mindjuju@beandog - this is out of control - http://schoolingharry.ytmnd.com/
18:13.21DexterTheDragonbeandog: http://letmegooglethatforyou.com/?q=inurl%3AoHg5SJYRHA0&l=1
18:13.26DexterTheDragonmindjuju: ^^
18:13.32beandogmindjuju, lol
18:14.21mindjuju@dexterthedragon :)
18:14.30mindjujudtd - check out the link i sent to beandog
18:27.25PoeticIntensity""carmony runs all his servers using Pentium 2's and Windows ME cause he likes living in hell.""
18:27.31PoeticIntensity*that* was funny.
18:27.48PoeticIntensityand thank you for that script, jsmith...
18:28.02PoeticIntensityTook me about an hour to have a similar script up and running.
18:28.54jsmithPoeticIntensity: Cool beans... glad you found it handy
18:29.40PoeticIntensitysi senor.
18:50.49beandoghttp://www.archive.org/details/CoffeeBreak
18:50.52beandogbest. movie. evar.
18:51.08beandogmindjuju, ^^ gotta see that one
18:51.44mindjujui just saw this archive the other day
18:51.50mindjujuthere is something on here that's crazy funny
18:52.02DexterTheDragonyikes long
18:52.31mindjujubeandog + dexterthedragon - http://www.archive.org/details/DatingDo1949
18:52.43beandogI love these old movies
18:53.43beandoger, instructional videos
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19:36.29herlohttp://vimeo.com/3195079
19:36.44herlobespin, a new code editor from mozilla labs
19:43.53mgearyhey, that's from Utah
20:02.20carmonyman I love it when you re-write a piece of code that is 500+ lines down to 30-50 lines.
20:05.34beandoggrawr.
20:05.44beandogcentos lets root login using pubkey, but not any other users.
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20:10.37herlobeandog: not true
20:10.51herlonot sure what you are dooing, but it should be the opposite
20:10.52beandogherlo, I cant figure out why it wont let me in
20:10.58beandogssh root@ works, ssh user@ doesn't
20:11.01herlocheck your /etc/sshd_config
20:11.31herloer /etc/ssh/sshd_config
20:11.39beandogherlo, I dont see anything wrong in there
20:11.40herlomake sure PermitRootLogin is off
20:11.48herloand that the AllowUsers directive isn't used
20:12.04herloit's possible they specifically allowed root and noone else
20:12.16beandogAllowUsers isn't even in there
20:12.32beandogIm pretty sure this is a stock config file.
20:12.53herloare they using centralized auth?
20:13.23herlo# To disable tunneled clear text passwords, change to no here!
20:13.23herlo#PasswordAuthentication yes
20:13.24herlo#PermitEmptyPasswords no
20:13.24beandoguh, I dunno?
20:13.25herloPasswordAuthentication yes
20:13.32herlois that line there?
20:13.41tierragay... bespin ripped off Finder's column view
20:13.55beandogPasswordAuthentication yes
20:13.56herlohow is that gay?  And it's not theft
20:14.04herlobeandog: it should just work
20:14.05tierrait's gay cuz I hate it
20:14.06tierraheh
20:14.11beandogherlo, meh.
20:14.12beandog:T
20:14.22beandogah hah
20:14.24beandogit hated my permissions.
20:14.24mindjujuand let's not use the word gay
20:14.26herlobeandog: you can log in via root, but noone else
20:14.34herloyour .ssh perms?
20:14.34beandogherlo, using public keys
20:14.41beandogherlo, right
20:14.48herlobeandog: next tiem, try ssh-copy-id
20:15.03herlomakes copying ssh dead simple
20:15.07tierrasorry, I forget what channel I'm in sometimes
20:15.09DexterTheDragonactually ssh quirks
20:15.12herlobeandog: that's *not* a CentOS quirk
20:15.12beandogherlo, where do you get that
20:15.20beandogherlo, Ive never run into it anywhere else
20:15.32herlo# rpm -qf $(which ssh-copy-id)
20:15.32herloopenssh-clients-5.1p1-3.fc10.x86_64
20:15.32beandogoh
20:15.36beandogits' just defuault perms.
20:15.41beandogthat would explain it.
20:15.48beandoggentoo == just works. ;)
20:15.49herlobeandog: ssh requires certain perms on thos dirs
20:16.02beandogherlo, yah I didnt know that.
20:16.06herlobeandog: not sure how gentoo does it differently, but it's an ssh req
20:16.35DexterTheDragongentoo probably creates the folder with those perms
20:16.46herloon install?
20:16.52herloor in the /etc/skel probably actually
20:24.27beandogDexterTheDragon, yah
20:24.31beandogherlo, no, by default
20:24.40beandogwell, not sure.
20:24.45beandogit might be in /etc/skel
20:24.55beandogyahp, thats it
20:25.01beandog0700 in /etc/skel/.ssh
20:25.05beandogeither way, it just works. ;)
20:25.14beandogthanks herlo
20:25.21beandognever would have guessed that was the problem
20:26.00beandogoh man
20:26.05beandognow I can finally get in
20:26.06beandogwoots
20:29.26herlohehe
20:30.00herlobeandog: you should really use ssh-copy-id, it's slick, even on gentoo it makes life simpler
20:30.52beandogoh, its part of openssh
20:30.52beandognice.
20:34.30beandoghttp://www.tvshowsondvd.com/news/Mr-Belvedere-Seasons-1-and-2/11318
20:42.29carmonyI now can upload photos from my iPhone, through a SOAP API, to my website and have to create the 6 different sizes
20:43.26mindjujuanybody here play half-life 2?
20:44.38carmonyI do :)
20:44.46carmonyROFL!!!! http://www.todaysbigthing.com/2009/02/13
20:44.53mindjujucarmony - check this out
20:44.54mindjujuhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1UPMEmCqZo
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20:47.01SunSparcBurninating the countryside?
20:47.29jsmithSunSparc: Burninating the peasants!
20:47.43jsmiths/chuckes/chuckles/
20:49.23carmonyI want to make an open source project called trogdor :P
20:50.24jsmithcarmony: I'm with you... and it has to have a dragon as the logo!
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20:51.07carmonyhttp://www.todaysbigthing.com/2009/02/09 LOL
20:52.57diablolol
20:54.34beandogtrogdor!
20:55.06macnewbold~trogdor beandog
20:55.07jbotACTION burninates beandog
20:55.15macnewbold~burninate carmony
20:55.15jbotACTION burninates carmony and thrashes him soundly with Trogdor's meat arm.
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21:05.54SunSparcWow $1 = $0.01 ?  I better buy a bunch while they are so cheap!
21:08.01carmonythats it! I'm going to make a simple ORM (lighter weight and more simple than Doctrine, or CakePHP's ORM) for CodeIgnitor :P
21:08.02orsonjno, they aren't selling them, you have to sell yours to them.
21:08.09carmonyand I can call it Trogdor
21:16.17carmonyk, I'm hungry for a late lunch, what do I want? :P
21:16.34mindjujuthe always correct answer is a whopper
21:16.44mindjujuunless you have popeye's chicken around
21:16.52carmonyActually, I think I'm going to do Carl's Jr.
21:17.02mindjujuthe only better answer than a whopper, is a double whopper
21:17.06beandogooh that sounds great
21:17.20mindjujuwhat?  carl's jr or a whopper?
21:17.28beandogcarlito's
21:19.41orsonjI accidentally left my lunch meat out all night, so had to go get pizza instead.
21:25.54mgeary~ping dataw0lf
21:25.55jbotpong dataw0lf
21:47.39SunSparcNice anyone else getting "startkeylogger" irc spam?
21:48.13thebigdognope
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22:06.07josephscottping mindjuju
22:14.39mindjuju~apb josephscott
22:14.40jbotACTION hires Duane Lee to find josephscott
22:15.00josephscottmindjuju: everything still a go for next Thursday?
22:15.22mindjujui need to finish up the email, i'll put it out here in a minute
22:15.37carmonymeeting time already?
22:15.48DexterTheDragonwhats the topic?
22:15.53mindjujuUPHPU Meeting Thursday @ 7pm | Joseph Scott presenting on WordPress APIs, XML-RPC & AtomPub
22:16.05carmonyvery cool :)
22:16.09mindjujuv v cool
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22:18.02mgeary_dataw0lf: hey, you around?
22:25.06beandoghttp://www.coolepochcountdown.com/
22:28.15DexterTheDragonI thought you didn't care beandog
22:28.30SunSparcBusted!
22:28.32beandogI dont
22:28.36beandogI'm all about cool websites though
22:28.57beandogbah
22:29.08*** topic/#UPHPU by macnewbold -> Utah PHP Users Group | uphpu.org | UPHPU Meeting Thursday @ 7pm | Joseph Scott presenting on WordPress APIs, XML-RPC & AtomPub
22:29.42macnewboldyeah, everyone get ready - in about an hour (62 minutes) we'll hit unix epoch timestamp 1234567890 !
22:30.00SunSparcWoot!
22:30.05SunSparcSecond coming!
22:30.51mgeary_~seen dataw0lf
22:30.55jbotdataw0lf is currently on #uphpu (10d 11h 41m 2s). Has said a total of 153 messages. Is idling for 1d 11m 14s, last said: 'yea.'.
22:31.06beandogwow, it has total messages?
22:31.10beandog~seen beandog
22:31.10jbotbeandog is currently on #uphpu (4h 55m 40s). Has said a total of 67 messages. Is idling for 0s, last said: '~seen beandog '.
22:31.18beandogoh, is that for today?
22:31.19beandogmeh
22:31.35SunSparc~seen SunSparc
22:31.35jbotsunsparc is currently on #udbug (1h 46m 18s) #uphpu (1h 46m 18s). Has said a total of 7 messages. Is idling for 0s, last said: '~seen SunSparc'.
22:31.46SunSparcTalkative, ain't he.
22:32.05SunSparc~stats
22:32.05jbotSince Mon Jan 26 06:05:27 2009, there have been 96 modifications, 1684 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 1153 commands.  I have been awake for 18d 16h 26m 38s this session, and currently reference 115857 factoids.  I'm using about 20768 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 46145.42/2224.83 child 0.01/0.01
22:32.58orsonjyep 69 for beandog by my count
22:33.15beandogthats a lot of factoids.
22:33.42beandog~fork jbot
22:33.43jbotACTION creates an identical jbot, but with a different id
22:37.14beandog~knife jbot
22:37.53fungus~fork u
22:37.54jbotACTION creates an identical u, but with a different id
22:38.17beandogheh
22:38.42DexterTheDragon~spoon jbot
22:38.43jbotACTION gouges out jbot's eyes with a small plastic spoon
22:39.15SunSparcWhy a spoon, cousin?
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22:39.31beandog~cheer thebigdog
22:39.31jbotACTION cheers thebigdog on
22:39.41thebigdogty beandog
22:40.09DexterTheDragon~spork jbot
22:40.10jbotACTION tries to stab jbot with a spork and fails, then attempts to gouge out jbot's eyeballs.  Success! The spork IS useful!
22:41.21josephscott~chuckfact
22:41.23jbotChuck Norris uses Tabasco Sauce for eye drops
22:47.23fungus~stab Chuck Norris
22:47.24jbotACTION runs at Chuck Norris with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut.
23:05.30herloUtah_Dave: ping - quick tutorial on your scripts plz
23:29.43orsonjtension mounts
23:30.34DexterTheDragont-minus 1 minute
23:31.09herlo2 minutes
23:31.18herlohttp://www.coolepochcountdown.com/
23:31.26DexterTheDragonI synced with ntp
23:31.31orsonj888
23:31.32herlolol, which one
23:31.34DexterTheDragonHappy 1234567890 everybody!!!
23:31.41DexterTheDragonthat was exciting
23:31.42herlonow=1234567802; remaining=88
23:32.21orsonjcool fireworks
23:32.32herlonow=1234567852; remaining=38
23:32.48fungusyay!
23:32.58herlonow=1234567876; remaining=14
23:32.58fungusHappy 1234567890 day
23:33.05fungusyou must be off herlo
23:33.18herlonow=1234567890; remaining=0
23:33.25herlofungus: well, I'm slow...
23:33.35orsonj~ntp++
23:33.35fungus:)
23:34.03herloapparently the servers I use are off then...
23:34.06DexterTheDragonus.pool.ntp.org
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23:35.10herloserver 2.fedora.pool.ntp.org
23:35.38DexterTheDragonhttp://www.google.com/
23:35.40DexterTheDragoncheck that out
23:37.08herlowell, server 0.fedora.pool.ntp.org
23:37.09herloserver 1.fedora.pool.ntp.org
23:37.09herloserver 2.fedora.pool.ntp.org
23:37.11herlowoops
23:37.16herlowell server 0.fedora.pool.ntp.org
23:37.17herloserver 1.fedora.pool.ntp.org
23:37.17herloserver 2.fedora.pool.ntp.org
23:37.19herlogeez
23:37.30DexterTheDragon~flood herlo
23:37.30jbotACTION blasts herlo with a huge firehose then strangles herlo with it
23:37.32herlohttp://www.coolepochcountdown.com had the celebration from kool n the gang
23:37.37tierrayou know what's funny about that.... NTP's epoch is way beyond 1234567890... that passed like 70 years ago
23:37.45herlo~lart herlo
23:37.45jbotmakes a balloon animal out of herlo
23:37.50tierraNTP doesn't use the same unix epoch
23:38.16herlotierra: is that because they use milliseconds?
23:39.24tierraI don't know why they don't but with an epoch of 1900, I doubt it's because they use a millisecond count (you'd need a big data type to store that kind of number)
23:41.40tierraah, NTP uses a 64-bit timestamp, 32 bits for seconds, 32 bits for fractional second
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