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15:31.45carmonyGood Monday Morning...
15:31.58mindjujusup yo
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15:45.52mindjujumorning utahcon
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16:07.06mindjuju~lart Punxsutawney Phil
16:07.06jbotflings poo at Punxsutawney Phil
16:07.25carmonylol
16:07.28mindjuju~lart Punxsutawney Phil
16:07.28jbothits Punxsutawney Phil with an anvil and laughs with a contralto voice ... Haha Ha HA Ha
16:07.36carmonyjbot seems kinda slow lately
16:08.11mindjujuugh, six more weeks of winter?
16:08.50Utahconmindjuju: you mean... six more weeks of winter!
16:09.26mgearyas opposed to six weeks until spring?
16:09.42mindjujuuh yeah ... <melancholy>  yippee</melancholy>
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16:46.34mindjuju~apb josephscott
16:46.35jbotACTION summons baby Lyssa to rough up josephscott
16:46.56josephscott~chuckfact
16:46.57jbotWhen the Boogeyman goes to sleep every night, he checks his closet for Chuck Norris
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17:43.07thebigdogmorning gents
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17:46.21macnewbold~rlart
17:46.22jbottakes a rusty axe and swings it violently, taking cycokilr's head off
17:48.45carmony~lart macnewbold
17:48.45jbotmoos at macnewbold
17:48.53carmony... that was a lame one :P
17:50.25bradymyou never know, macnewbold could have an irrational fear of cows ;)
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18:29.50macnewboldnah, I try to stick to rational fears of cows
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18:44.22mgeary~rlart
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19:10.25mjUbuntuso, anybody off hand know how to setup multiple monitors on ubuntu 8.10?
19:12.23mjUbuntuwhat the jones!  -- Unfortunately, the proprieary Nvidia drivers are still incompatible.  
19:12.26DexterTheDragonsudo nvidia-settings
19:13.42mjUbuntudexterthedragon, it comes back with command not found
19:14.08DexterTheDragonyou'll need to install the nvidia stuff
19:14.16DexterTheDragonif you have an nvidia card
19:14.37mjUbuntui'm actually running 2 nvidia cards
19:14.40mjUbuntuboth dual head
19:15.33DexterTheDragongood luck with that. I don't know how to do multiple cards
19:18.40DexterTheDragonshould be possible but might need some manual Xorg.conf tweaking
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19:27.41carmonyI had that exact problem two weeks ago
19:27.51carmonynever figured it out
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19:32.16thebigdogit is possible with multi cards
19:32.29thebigdogyou just need to specify the pci mapping in xorg.conf
19:32.47mindjujui'll have to look that up to see what it means
19:32.49thebigdogthe nvidia-setting might be able to handle it
19:32.56DexterTheDragonthat would be the tweaking I mentioned
19:33.13mindjujui was running a LiveCD so don't think the mods i was making were taking effect
19:33.14thebigdogwell the nvidia-setting adds the pci setting sometimes
19:33.30DexterTheDragondoubt the liveCD comes with the drivers
19:33.37mindjujudoesn't
19:33.45thebigdogand the drivers are broke if you have 4g + ram
19:33.50mindjujubased on your comments though, found where to go to update them
19:34.09thebigdoglspci will tell you the location of the cards
19:34.27mindjujuwait wait, i have 4g of RAM
19:34.49DexterTheDragonnothing works if you have 4g+ of ram. cause that means your running 64bit
19:35.00thebigdoghehe
19:35.09thebigdogactually we got 4g ram to work on 32bit
19:35.24thebigdogthere are some hacks but it is do able
19:35.30DexterTheDragon4g should work in 32. its the + that needs the 64bit
19:35.38thebigdogyeah
19:35.54mindjujui was going to say, i'm like 99% sure my proc isn't 64bit
19:36.01thebigdogmindjuju, the issue with 4g of ram 64b + nvidia drivers is that they do not map the memory properly from the bios
19:36.43thebigdogi am not sure when it will be fixed though
19:44.12DexterTheDragonso I'm thinking of doing software raid with linux. I was wondering wether I need a mobo that says it supports sata raid or if normal sata ports are fine and the software takes care of all that?
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20:01.31mindjujuthis is awesome - http://www.hulu.com/superbowl/55633/super-bowl-xliii-ads-careerbuildercom-tips
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21:17.18thebigdogDexterTheDragon, what type of raid are you thinking?
21:19.08DexterTheDragon5
21:19.24DexterTheDragonatleast 3 drives + a hot spare
21:20.15thebigdogif doing software raid then you dont need a mobo to support it unless you are doing sata raids in the bios
21:20.24macnewboldDexterTheDragon: for software raid, you're probably fine either way
21:20.35macnewboldif your mobo supports it, you'll have hw raid which is in many ways much nicer
21:20.58macnewboldbut raid 5 with 3-4 drives gets you into more pricey mobos or controller cards
21:21.01DexterTheDragonis hw raid provided by a mobo that great?
21:21.12macnewboldthat's most of what I've used, and it's been fine for me
21:21.17DexterTheDragonif I was going to do hw I would probably get a raid controller card
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21:21.46macnewbold~welcome beandog
21:21.47jbotHey, beandog! Glad you could join us.
21:22.27beandogholas
21:22.51thebigdogDexterTheDragon, that would be the ideal setup
21:22.59DexterTheDragonraid card?
21:23.47thebigdogi have used promise with success
21:24.25DexterTheDragonI'm kinda iffy on a raid card. cause if it fails you have to get the exact same thing
21:24.46DexterTheDragonwhereas with the software raid the hardware should no longer matter
21:24.49thebigdogsomething like this - http://www.promise.com/product/product_detail_eng.asp?product_id=165#
21:24.58DexterTheDragonand I think for my needs software would do fine
21:25.02josephscottI haven't heard, did phil see his shadow today?
21:25.03thebigdogyes but software can fail too
21:25.29thebigdogDexterTheDragon, either way there can be issues
21:25.39DexterTheDragonyeah
21:25.41thebigdogbeandog and i discussed some other options too a while ago
21:25.45thebigdoglike lvm2 and fuse
21:25.52thebigdogbut that is not giving a raid per say
21:26.08thebigdogit is just creating a drive from many drives
21:26.24thebigdogdo you need a raid 5?
21:26.49DexterTheDragonI would prefer 5
21:27.49thebigdogthe i would go with a controller card
21:28.12thebigdogif it is important...if you are doing it just to do it then i would go with software raid
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21:48.55Utah_Dave~tunafart mindjuju
21:48.56jbotACTION eats a week-old tuna sandwich with relish and walks over to mindjuju, leg raised, to let 'em rip.
21:49.13Utah_Daveall the way from Virginia, bro!
21:52.57beandogthat crazy cross-atlantic current
21:53.23mgearyuhh
21:53.56mgearyso, let him have it, mindjuju
21:54.20mgearycourse, it also goes southwest to northeast, so jsmith-away might not catch much
21:54.32Utah_DaveI think mindjuju is passed out on the floor
21:54.45mgearywait, Utah_Dave is in VA?
21:54.48mgearybiz trip?
21:54.55Utah_Daveyeah
21:55.00mgearynice
21:55.26mgearymy only trip to VA was also in February. Was very mild weather. Very pleasant
21:56.08Utah_Daveyeah, its a beautiful day here. was sunny til just a little while ago
21:56.16mgearywhere are ya?
21:56.27Utah_DaveLorton
21:57.34mgearycool
21:57.46mgearyi could live there
21:57.56Utah_Daveyeah. its a nice area
21:59.28Utah_Davegosh, I think jbot left mindjuju in a coma!
22:15.08mgearyhey, is anyone here very familiar with gotomeeting.com ?
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22:28.05mgearytierra: haha. Took me a second
22:28.58tierra:)
22:31.00mgearyi don't do commercial radio
22:31.07mgearyNPR ftw
22:40.34tierraI don't really like listening to Doug Wright, but I carpool to work...
22:41.10mgearywell, Doug's a lot better than that moron Hannity to whom they give what feels like 6 hours every day
22:41.34tierraoh yeah, I'd listen to Doug over Hannity anyday
22:42.05tierraAll Things Considered is good from time to time
22:42.31mgearyyes, but now you're back on NPR ::)
22:43.29tierrawell, I guess I'm saying I like NPR, just not especially Doug Wright
22:44.00mgearybut now you're back on to KSL
22:44.16mgearyDoug W & Hannity are on KSL, All Things Considered is on NPR
22:45.05tierraI guess that explains why I only hear Doug in my coworkers car
22:45.11tierraheh
22:45.12mgearyheh
22:47.24tierraI don't listen to talk shows at work though, just in the car
22:47.44mgearyyeah, i can't split my brain like that
22:47.56tierrayeah, it's too distracting
23:12.15mgeary'course, then you get thebigdog and his GWÄR.. talk about distracting
23:29.29thebigdoghehe
23:59.43tierraLogitech's bluetooth SetPoint software installs a desktop icon that can't be deleted... this is just awesome

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