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| 00:08.01 | beandog | mornin |
| 00:08.17 | brasto | mornin'? |
| 00:08.36 | brasto | This is about as far from mornin' as you get. |
| 00:08.46 | brasto | 12 hours either way... |
| 00:08.49 | SunSparc | somewhere, it is morning. |
| 00:08.51 | SunSparc | later! |
| 00:08.56 | beandog | well I just started doing some work |
| 00:08.59 | beandog | so, it's mornin enough |
| 00:09.00 | brasto | ah, somwhere, that's true |
| 00:09.13 | brasto | true in that sense, too |
| 00:09.37 | brasto | when I worked an odd shift where I had Tuesday and Wednesday off, I called Tuesday Friday. |
| 00:11.15 | brasto | Wait, no, I called Monday Friday. |
| 00:12.27 | beandog | hmm, yah that makes more sense |
| 00:14.21 | brasto | If the above two sentences can make any sense... :) |
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| 00:32.07 | beandog | anything that sticks at 5:30p works |
| 00:32.53 | mindjuju | huh? |
| 00:33.00 | beandog | I dont know |
| 00:33.16 | beandog | Im so incoherent from being overworked whatever is a full sentences seems like it should make sense about right now. |
| 00:33.36 | mindjuju | :) |
| 00:33.57 | beandog | hows it going mindjuju |
| 00:34.10 | mindjuju | about the same |
| 00:34.21 | beandog | dude, guess what I got in the mail this week |
| 00:34.25 | beandog | Buck Rogers: The Complete Series |
| 00:34.30 | mindjuju | awesome! |
| 00:34.38 | beandog | I started watching it, and I am absolutely *hooked* |
| 00:34.59 | mindjuju | seems like the chick on there is pretty hawt |
| 00:35.04 | mindjuju | i think she later shows up in silver spoons |
| 00:35.12 | beandog | mindjuju, yah there are some space kittens |
| 00:35.22 | beandog | I gotta take some screenshots |
| 00:35.37 | mindjuju | i mean, she's no meredith baster, but meh |
| 00:36.09 | beandog | LOL |
| 00:36.15 | beandog | mindjuju, you know who that chick is? |
| 00:36.18 | beandog | shes the one on Silver Spoons |
| 00:36.38 | mindjuju | i don't think meredith baxter was on silver spoons |
| 00:36.44 | mindjuju | that's somebody else |
| 00:36.46 | beandog | no, I mean the chick on BUck Rogers |
| 00:36.49 | beandog | Erin Gray |
| 00:36.53 | mindjuju | yeah, that's what i'm saying |
| 00:37.03 | mindjuju | girl from buck is on silver spoons, but she's no meredith baxter |
| 00:37.13 | beandog | heh |
| 00:37.19 | beandog | ick. |
| 00:37.22 | beandog | ~mindjuju |
| 00:37.22 | jbot | [mindjuju] sleeping with his left eye open, or insane, or a windows system administrator *GASP*, or the Prophet of Breakbeats, or sweat sexy hawtness, or a Texan, or wears his snuggie in the buff |
| 00:37.36 | beandog | jbot, mindjuju is also has a thing for hawt sitcom moms |
| 00:37.37 | jbot | beandog: okay |
| 00:37.50 | mindjuju | ~mindjuju |
| 00:37.51 | jbot | it has been said that mindjuju is sleeping with his left eye open, or insane, or a windows system administrator *GASP*, or the Prophet of Breakbeats, or sweat sexy hawtness, or a Texan, or wears his snuggie in the buff, or has a thing for hawt sitcom moms |
| 00:37.56 | beandog | that's better |
| 00:38.01 | mindjuju | not all sitcom moms |
| 00:38.08 | mindjuju | that lady from growing pains, meh |
| 00:38.08 | beandog | just the hot ones |
| 00:38.16 | mindjuju | ah |
| 00:38.21 | mindjuju | yeah, well qualified |
| 00:39.24 | beandog | mindjuju, what about the chick |
| 00:39.29 | beandog | she was smokin! |
| 00:40.42 | mindjuju | which chick? |
| 00:41.03 | beandog | I forget her name |
| 00:44.29 | mindjuju | so what you up to these days beandog |
| 00:44.36 | beandog | mindjuju, nothing but work |
| 00:44.37 | itimber | I'm out guys.... late |
| 00:44.57 | beandog | and tweaking my media setup at home |
| 00:45.04 | beandog | I finally bought my mini itx mobo today, Im so stoked. |
| 00:49.17 | mindjuju | what are you using? myth, right? |
| 00:52.58 | beandog | mythvideo, yah |
| 00:53.04 | beandog | I dont record TV |
| 00:53.16 | mindjuju | gogo gadget Hot Air Popper! |
| 00:53.21 | mindjuju | why don't you record TV? |
| 00:53.32 | beandog | nothing on |
| 00:53.48 | beandog | and it'll take me years to watch everything Ive already bought plus my queue |
| 00:54.01 | beandog | I record some stuff on my tivo, not much |
| 00:54.06 | beandog | all reruns though |
| 00:54.19 | beandog | the universe, seinfeld, sherlock holmes, standing still, perry mason .. can't remember what else |
| 00:55.14 | mindjuju | oh gotcha |
| 00:56.04 | beandog | what about you |
| 00:59.22 | mindjuju | i like shows on the bbc like Bargin Hunt and stuff |
| 00:59.24 | mindjuju | good times |
| 01:01.16 | beandog | bargain hunt? |
| 01:01.36 | mindjuju | yeah, way cool game show |
| 01:01.45 | mindjuju | in england where you have 2 teams of 2 |
| 01:01.52 | mindjuju | and he gives each 200 quid |
| 01:02.11 | mindjuju | and they go through like a flea market and find things they think are of value |
| 01:02.22 | beandog | oh really? |
| 01:02.24 | beandog | that sounds awesome |
| 01:02.25 | mindjuju | then the things get taken to auction to see what the real market value is |
| 01:02.30 | mindjuju | dude, it's awesome |
| 01:02.48 | mindjuju | there have been times when they buy some measily thing for like 10 quid, only to find it's worth hundreds |
| 01:03.00 | mindjuju | and the winning teams get to keep the winnings |
| 01:03.52 | beandog | really |
| 01:03.55 | beandog | man thtas awesome |
| 01:05.50 | mindjuju | here is more info - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bargain_Hunt |
| 01:07.40 | beandog | ahh, wikipedia |
| 01:07.48 | beandog | I cant imagine life without it |
| 01:09.01 | mindjuju | never read GL but Zero Hour was cool |
| 01:11.55 | beandog | Outlook has got to have the most confusing UI I have ever experienced |
| 01:13.21 | mindjuju | whihc outlook? |
| 01:13.25 | mindjuju | 2k7? |
| 01:17.53 | beandog | I dunno |
| 01:17.55 | beandog | I dont wanna look |
| 01:17.59 | beandog | 2000 something Im sure |
| 01:18.10 | beandog | im too busy watching a youtube video |
| 01:18.26 | beandog | http://www.videosift.com/video/Gordon-Ramsay-s-Perfect-Scrambled-Eggs |
| 01:18.32 | beandog | this is just strangely fascinating |
| 01:18.35 | beandog | like all cooking shows |
| 01:19.05 | mindjuju | gordon ramsey is awesome |
| 01:19.18 | mindjuju | he's on the beeb with a show called kitchens from hell or something like that |
| 01:19.20 | mindjuju | good show |
| 01:19.25 | beandog | kitchen nightmares? |
| 01:19.32 | beandog | hell's kitchen? |
| 01:19.33 | mindjuju | yeah, maybe that's it |
| 01:19.43 | beandog | oh man that looks so good. |
| 01:20.27 | beandog | especially after I just dined on some three musketeers |
| 01:24.02 | mindjuju | that scrambled egg was pretty cool |
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| 01:25.04 | beandog | yah |
| 01:25.12 | beandog | everytime I watch those things too Im like ... wow, that looks so easy! |
| 01:25.14 | beandog | probably is, too |
| 01:25.42 | mindjuju | it's too bad we don't have real breadshops here |
| 01:25.53 | mindjuju | that make sourdough like he had |
| 01:25.57 | beandog | oh man |
| 01:25.59 | beandog | seriously |
| 01:26.03 | beandog | well, Im sure there are *some* somewhere |
| 01:26.10 | beandog | but theyre obviously not an american staple |
| 01:26.14 | mindjuju | curiously enough we had one in China, but there are a TON of European ex-pats there |
| 01:26.26 | mindjuju | that's where i learned that thing we called bread isn't REALLY bred |
| 01:26.29 | mindjuju | bread |
| 01:27.06 | beandog | yah, seriously |
| 01:27.14 | beandog | which reminds me |
| 01:27.20 | beandog | I think Im gonna go check out Whole Foods tonight |
| 01:27.30 | beandog | see if I can find something good |
| 01:28.13 | mindjuju | do keep me posted |
| 01:28.21 | mindjuju | i miss european bread |
| 01:29.25 | beandog | my gosh |
| 01:29.29 | beandog | how does anyone navigate facebook |
| 01:29.57 | beandog | and what am I still doing at work |
| 01:34.09 | beandog | you know youre getting loopy when you start putting jokes in your code. |
| 01:34.18 | beandog | if($lulz) |
| 01:34.20 | beandog | :) |
| 01:35.15 | mindjuju | you know coding like dataw0lf was saying, in klingon could be quite funny |
| 01:35.34 | beandog | q'plah! |
| 01:35.55 | beandog | plus klingons get to stab things they dont like. |
| 01:36.04 | beandog | Im all about that. |
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| 01:36.28 | beandog | mindjuju, net issues? |
| 01:36.34 | mindjuju | pidgin issues |
| 01:36.43 | mindjuju | it's just crashing |
| 01:37.07 | beandog | ah, sorry |
| 01:37.30 | mindjuju | yeah, bummer |
| 01:39.38 | beandog | I just had a brilliant idea. |
| 01:39.44 | beandog | Im going to buy a mini fridge for my office. |
| 01:39.49 | beandog | brilliant! |
| 01:42.32 | beandog | http://images.thinkgeek.com/action/large/2111077.jpg |
| 01:44.21 | mindjuju | get a good one though |
| 01:44.35 | mindjuju | i have one and it keeps things cold but not ice cold like ice cream |
| 01:45.12 | beandog | http://www.thinkgeek.com/homeoffice/gear/6ad2/ |
| 01:45.18 | beandog | mindjuju, check out that one, whatchoo think |
| 01:45.21 | beandog | kinda small. |
| 01:45.21 | beandog | :T |
| 01:45.23 | beandog | but quiet! |
| 01:45.28 | mindjuju | course mine is like from the 70's with the optional wood finish |
| 01:45.29 | beandog | quiet > * |
| 01:47.47 | mindjuju | i don't know how big 20 liters is |
| 01:48.27 | mindjuju | though this pic seems toshow it's about my fridge size - http://www.thinkgeek.com/homeoffice/gear/6ad2/action/ |
| 01:48.54 | beandog | yah |
| 01:48.56 | beandog | doesnt look too big |
| 01:50.01 | mindjuju | course though, you don't need a huge fridge at work |
| 01:50.10 | mindjuju | or you'll forget things in there and then have to deal with it |
| 01:50.32 | mindjuju | aka left overs in tuper ware MEGA-ULTRA-DEADLY-TOXIC 2 yrs old |
| 01:50.36 | beandog | lol |
| 01:50.39 | beandog | speaking from experience? |
| 01:50.45 | mindjuju | yup |
| 01:50.49 | beandog | this fridge is awesome though, I must have one. |
| 01:51.11 | beandog | If I didnt buy that mobo this morning, Id probbaly be buying one right now. |
| 01:51.27 | mindjuju | well, mine doesn't make a lot of noise, but i don't have a light in mine, and i can see what's inside |
| 01:51.33 | mindjuju | that one looks pretty cool |
| 01:52.07 | beandog | yah |
| 01:52.11 | beandog | I really gotta decorate my office, too |
| 01:52.26 | beandog | I need to find an awesome star wars poster and frame it |
| 01:52.57 | mindjuju | i know this is going to sound impossible, but i actually have a star wars poster +2 |
| 01:53.28 | mindjuju | as in take the best star wars poster ther eis |
| 01:53.29 | beandog | huh? |
| 01:53.37 | mindjuju | aka, slave leia poster |
| 01:53.43 | beandog | LOL |
| 01:53.44 | mindjuju | and it's 2 better than that |
| 01:54.12 | mindjuju | it's a poster i got from herlo at the end of last years UTOS conference |
| 01:54.26 | mindjuju | says "May the source be with you" and it has darth penguin on it |
| 01:54.29 | mindjuju | it is ub3r |
| 01:54.32 | beandog | http://www.ukquad.com/superman%203%20folded.jpg |
| 01:55.03 | beandog | that would be so awesome to have. |
| 01:55.23 | beandog | I have to get this just for the sheer amazingness of it. |
| 01:56.42 | mindjuju | i have it at home, but pretty sure it's this one - http://www.natuba.com/photo/4Zu5oQ/ |
| 01:57.10 | beandog | mindjuju, wow, that is awesome |
| 01:58.37 | mindjuju | :) |
| 01:58.44 | mindjuju | see, better than slave leia |
| 02:01.26 | beandog | http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Batman-Begins-Original-D-S-UK-Quad-Poster-Dark-Knight_W0QQitemZ260342917235QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_DVD_Film_TV_Film_Memorabilia_LE?hash=item260342917235&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1683%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318 |
| 02:01.30 | beandog | hows that one look |
| 02:01.33 | beandog | I think I might get that |
| 02:01.34 | beandog | quads++ |
| 02:01.43 | beandog | kinda hard to see the picture. |
| 02:02.35 | mindjuju | looks cool |
| 02:02.53 | mindjuju | haven't seen batman begins, but i'd buy burton batman any day |
| 02:02.58 | mindjuju | cause you know, burton rules |
| 02:03.03 | mindjuju | everybody else droools |
| 02:04.05 | mindjuju | what's a quad/ |
| 02:04.19 | beandog | uk poster |
| 02:04.25 | beandog | they are horizontonal instead of vertical like ours |
| 02:04.29 | mindjuju | ah |
| 02:04.31 | beandog | looks more picturesque, imo |
| 02:07.34 | beandog | its amazing how with all that cash,e bay cant make a decent website |
| 02:08.27 | mindjuju | did you see that eBay is looking for a buyer for Skype? |
| 02:08.35 | beandog | yah, isnt that hilarious |
| 02:08.43 | mindjuju | article i read said Google may buy, but i don't really see it happening |
| 02:10.30 | beandog | yah |
| 02:14.35 | mindjuju | oh my gosh |
| 02:14.37 | mindjuju | scary |
| 02:15.20 | mindjuju | beandog, you still around |
| 02:15.28 | beandog | yah, looking for a star wars quad |
| 02:16.05 | mindjuju | don't know if you have time to read a funny article about a resturant called casa bonita in denver, but it's funny |
| 02:16.06 | mindjuju | http://blogs.westword.com/cafesociety/2009/01/casa_bonita_a_survivors_guide.php |
| 02:16.13 | mindjuju | and the page is written in PHP |
| 02:16.21 | beandog | k sec |
| 02:16.24 | mindjuju | but they all complain about the food being bad |
| 02:16.28 | mindjuju | so you have to read at least this |
| 02:16.40 | mindjuju | this was in the comments |
| 02:16.40 | mindjuju | Nice, except you HAVE to go into Black Bart's Cave. It's as integral to the experience as the cliff divers and sopapillas. Good call on the taco salad. In case anyone is unsuspecting and thinks, "How can they screw up cheese enchiladas?" the answer is: nacho cheese. |
| 02:17.13 | beandog | lol |
| 02:17.15 | beandog | thats awesome |
| 02:17.22 | mindjuju | way scary |
| 02:19.13 | beandog | ooh Ive never seen this one before |
| 02:19.16 | beandog | http://cgi.ebay.com/STAR-WARS-EMPIRE-STRIKES-BACK-CLOUD-CITY-MOVIE-POSTER_W0QQitemZ290285987216QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item290285987216&_trksid=p4634.c0.m14#ebayphotohosting |
| 02:19.51 | beandog | oh wow, *this* is gorgeous |
| 02:19.53 | beandog | http://www.art.com/asp/sp-asp/_/pd--13464736/sp--A/igid--2388163/Star_Wars_The_Empire_Strikes_Back.htm?sOrig=CAT&sOrigID=10378&ui=54776515FC034720B11E5F9145982C1D |
| 02:20.53 | mindjuju | beandog, tis cool, but this i think might be a pinch better - http://shop.vendio.com/comicod/item/758057234/?s=1232969770 |
| 02:21.09 | mindjuju | it has the original "revenge" not return of the jedi |
| 02:21.12 | beandog | ooh nice. |
| 02:21.14 | beandog | its retro |
| 02:21.35 | beandog | I'm not the kidn of person who spends $500 on one though |
| 02:21.36 | mindjuju | remember how it was renamed like 2 weeks before it came out? |
| 02:22.25 | beandog | was it? |
| 02:22.27 | beandog | I dont reemmber. |
| 02:22.36 | beandog | I know everyone thought each title sucked. |
| 02:23.01 | mindjuju | yeah, it was originally called revenge of the jedi, but then there was a nerd rebellion that said that Jedi wouldn't stoop to revenge |
| 02:23.13 | mindjuju | and Lucas, taken back, said, "oh yeah" |
| 02:23.16 | mindjuju | and thus renamed |
| 02:23.20 | mindjuju | twas something like that |
| 02:24.03 | beandog | oh really? |
| 02:24.09 | beandog | thats cool |
| 02:24.14 | mindjuju | yup |
| 02:24.18 | beandog | silly nerds. |
| 02:25.34 | mindjuju | here it is from wiki - |
| 02:25.35 | mindjuju | The film was originally titled Revenge of the Jedi, and the original teaser trailer for the film carried this moniker.[16] A released teaser poster created by Drew Struzan containing the dismissed title has since become a rare collector's item. Of notice are the lightsaber colors on the teaser poster shown: Luke is seen wielding a red lightsaber while Vader wields a blue one.[17] However, a few weeks before the film's premiere, Lucas changed the title |
| 02:25.40 | mindjuju | but i do remember this |
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| 02:26.45 | beandog | huh |
| 02:26.47 | beandog | thats pretty cool |
| 02:26.55 | beandog | I didnt realize that was an *old* poster |
| 02:27.38 | beandog | well, I bought that Empire Strikes Back one |
| 02:27.40 | beandog | it is amazing |
| 02:27.46 | beandog | alrightie man, I think Im gonna head out |
| 02:27.48 | mindjuju | looked cool |
| 02:27.51 | mindjuju | cya |
| 02:27.55 | beandog | have a good night |
| 02:28.00 | mindjuju | i finished my dinner anyways, need to finish this code and get home |
| 02:28.01 | mindjuju | u2 |
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| 08:00.35 | itimber | anyone here? |
| 08:03.28 | itimber | okay... I'm leaving a paper trail to show that I was cranking at this unreasonable hour. *cough *mgeary* *cough :) |
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| 15:53.47 | SunSparc | καλημÎÏα |
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| 16:10.54 | carmony | Good morning |
| 16:14.02 | orsonj | yep, not too bad |
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| 16:27.39 | thebigdog | morning all |
| 16:28.03 | carmony | morning thebigdog |
| 16:28.16 | thebigdog | how goes the morning |
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| 16:43.12 | carmony | my morning is just fixin bugs and knocking tickets out |
| 16:43.59 | mindjuju | ugh, i'm tired of my primary computer freakin' out |
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| 16:44.17 | mindjuju | i think i'm going to jump to linux on my primary desktop |
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| 16:44.48 | fungus | woot |
| 16:44.58 | mindjuju | :) |
| 16:45.09 | mindjuju | question is though, i hear kde is better than gnome right now |
| 16:45.10 | fungus | http://www.woot.com/ |
| 16:45.21 | mindjuju | but that gnome is being rewritten to be better than kde |
| 16:45.24 | mindjuju | which is better? |
| 16:45.30 | fungus | Neither |
| 16:45.37 | fungus | They are just different |
| 16:46.05 | fungus | although, holy wars have been waged on both sides |
| 16:46.12 | carmony | Difference is based on Preference :) |
| 16:46.21 | fungus | exactly |
| 16:46.23 | mindjuju | but which one is hawt and sexy? |
| 16:46.56 | fungus | I keep trying KDE every year or so, and switch back. |
| 16:47.03 | mindjuju | so which one has compfiz? |
| 16:47.17 | fungus | mindjuju: It's not a choice your stuck with, you can switch anytime you feel like. |
| 16:47.24 | fungus | Both have compiz |
| 16:48.08 | mindjuju | i heard though that ubuntu compiz is older |
| 16:48.09 | fungus | Switching is really easy, just a menu choice on the login screen (once they are both installed) |
| 16:48.11 | mindjuju | that there is new stuff |
| 16:48.27 | mindjuju | herlo was talking about some of the sexy stuff at the uphpu after hours party |
| 16:48.29 | fungus | Ubuntu runs a more stable (older) version of Compiz than Suse does |
| 16:48.42 | fungus | and Fedora for that matter |
| 16:48.58 | mindjuju | ah, so older may be better |
| 16:49.02 | fungus | That's based on distro, not Window manager |
| 16:49.17 | fungus | Nah, the Fedora version is plenty stable |
| 16:50.35 | mindjuju | ion? |
| 16:50.36 | fungus | FYI, KDE 3.5 is extremely different from KDE 4.x |
| 16:52.19 | mindjuju | i think i'll get the new ubuntu and try it out and see (on live CD) |
| 16:52.27 | mindjuju | i wonder if it will pick up my 4 monitors |
| 16:52.29 | fungus | I suggest installing both Gnome and KDE and try them both out for a while |
| 16:54.51 | fungus | The Ubuntu live CD only has Gnome on it, but the Kubuntu live CD has KDE |
| 16:55.08 | fungus | Fedora has live CD's for both as well |
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| 16:57.50 | fungus | lol |
| 16:57.51 | itimber | hmmph |
| 16:58.01 | itimber | wanted to pull up my last message |
| 16:58.06 | itimber | was from 1am |
| 16:58.10 | itimber | was working |
| 16:58.18 | itimber | proof for mgeary |
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| 16:58.20 | itimber | :/ |
| 16:58.32 | mindjuju | so tell me about wine |
| 16:58.39 | itimber | anyway.... what's up guys? |
| 16:58.45 | itimber | ~wine++ |
| 16:58.46 | mindjuju | is it better to run apps in wine or virtualbox? |
| 16:59.32 | fungus | depends on what your plans for th app are |
| 16:59.59 | unum | I like cedega for my games |
| 17:00.07 | fungus | wine runs the app in your Linux OS, and may be difficult to run them. |
| 17:00.16 | mindjuju | hmmm |
| 17:00.23 | fungus | virtualbox is an isolated sandbox in a windows OS |
| 17:00.38 | herlo | compiz is the old garbage, gnome-desktop has its own effects now and is the new hotness |
| 17:00.46 | fungus | Legally you need a separate license for windows in virtualbox, but not in wine |
| 17:00.46 | herlo | kde is also the new hotness |
| 17:00.50 | undertakingyou | herlo: lies |
| 17:00.56 | herlo | it's not |
| 17:01.01 | undertakingyou | herlo: lies |
| 17:01.32 | mindjuju | which version of gnome-desktop? |
| 17:01.33 | herlo | again, it's not |
| 17:01.44 | herlo | mindjuju: development version, I'm trying to find the video right now |
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| 17:06.00 | mindjuju | so is it possible to compile the new gnome-desktop for ubuntu and run that? |
| 17:06.24 | herlo | probably |
| 17:06.30 | fungus | Ubuntu dev version "Jaunty" has it. |
| 17:06.38 | herlo | fungus: probably :) |
| 17:07.01 | fungus | http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/jaunty/alpha3 |
| 17:07.16 | herlo | fungus: I believed you :) |
| 17:07.30 | fungus | I know, just linking it so mindjuju can find it. |
| 17:07.38 | herlo | but now there's a link to click! ooh ooh ooh!! |
| 17:08.07 | fungus | Although Ubuntu Alpha stages are not recommended for your primary desktop. Perhaps a live CD, VM, or secondary desktop. |
| 17:08.22 | herlo | fungus: I noted that they won't include ext4 as the default |
| 17:08.43 | fungus | Yeah, that is a bummer. I'm all excited for ext4 |
| 17:08.43 | herlo | fungus: but Fedora plans to have ext4 as standard in F11, coming out end of May. I wonder why? |
| 17:09.08 | fungus | The new killyourwifeFS is pretty much gone |
| 17:09.29 | mindjuju | yeah, i'm wondering if i should redo my video collection on ext4 |
| 17:09.31 | fungus | Because Fedora doesn't mind bleeding edge |
| 17:09.34 | mindjuju | is it that much better than 3? |
| 17:09.35 | herlo | fungus: btrfs is the new hotness and will replace ext4 quite rapidly |
| 17:09.48 | herlo | fungus: not bleeding edge, leading edge... |
| 17:09.53 | fungus | btrfs? hrm. |
| 17:10.03 | herlo | :) |
| 17:10.25 | herlo | fungus: I have a video link from one of the RH filesystem devs talking about it at FUDCon |
| 17:10.39 | fungus | When I use Fedora I feel as (b)leading edge as the Gentoo of yesteryear |
| 17:10.50 | fungus | it's really fun. |
| 17:11.05 | herlo | hehe, it's much more stable though |
| 17:11.16 | herlo | fungus: http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/videos/2009/FUDConF11/fudcon-f11-rm345-session1.ogg <-- try that |
| 17:11.19 | mindjuju | k, so which filesystem do i use? |
| 17:11.21 | fungus | and less painful |
| 17:11.25 | herlo | mindjuju: the default |
| 17:11.37 | mindjuju | what about ext4? |
| 17:11.43 | herlo | fungus: yep, and everything in Fedora is built with fedora (or free) tools |
| 17:11.46 | fungus | wait for it to be released |
| 17:11.52 | herlo | mindjuju: it'll be the default when it's ready |
| 17:12.22 | fungus | Unless you like to bleed... Hence the name. |
| 17:12.52 | herlo | not the one I thought it was, darn. |
| 17:17.43 | fungus | Sad part about all the fancy effects... They don't work in a VM, gotta find another machine to really play with them. |
| 17:18.34 | herlo | well, that has a lot to do with the fact that the effects are not software driven |
| 17:19.40 | fungus | right. |
| 17:29.36 | mindjuju | so, if i do apt-get upgrade, is that the same as downloading and installing ubntu 8.10? |
| 17:33.11 | fungus | pretty much, yeah. |
| 17:33.27 | herlo | mindjuju: okay, so if you download this video: http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/videos/2009/FUDConF11/fudcon-f11-rm345-session4.ogg |
| 17:33.31 | herlo | and go to 9:20 |
| 17:33.53 | mindjuju | k, downloading |
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| 17:34.27 | fungus | http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading |
| 17:34.58 | fungus | See "network upgrade for servers" |
| 17:35.03 | mindjuju | oh, i didn't know that |
| 17:35.05 | mindjuju | thx fungus! |
| 17:35.09 | herlo | e |
| 17:35.13 | fungus | That simplifies alot of the apt-get stuff |
| 17:36.07 | herlo | apt-get is very nice |
| 17:36.17 | herlo | yum is quite improved and can do many things apt can nowadays |
| 17:36.22 | fungus | Yes it is. |
| 17:36.36 | fungus | yum is much nicer than it was, but is still a little slower. |
| 17:36.48 | fungus | and both blow the pants off of yast |
| 17:37.47 | herlo | it's python, it'll always be slower than c |
| 17:38.50 | fungus | The only thing that makes me cry more than SuSe package management is Solaris |
| 17:39.14 | SunSparc | fungus: Lolz, no kidding. |
| 17:39.21 | fungus | Yum is perfectly acceptable. |
| 17:39.28 | mindjuju | doesn't Suse use Yum? |
| 17:39.46 | fungus | nope. Hideous horribly slow, painful to setup, Yast |
| 17:40.10 | fungus | But I heard their new stuff uses Zypper which is supposed to be almost as good as Yum |
| 17:40.21 | herlo | suse has YAST, yet another sucky tool |
| 17:40.31 | herlo | zypper is not as good as yum at all |
| 17:40.44 | mindjuju | so if i understand correctly apt-get>yum>yast ? |
| 17:41.02 | fungus | I heard that from decriptor, so of course it was ... |
| 17:41.04 | herlo | mindjuju: in speed, yes, in functionality maybe |
| 17:41.32 | herlo | in functionality, it's a debate, and depends heavily on what you want it for |
| 17:41.35 | herlo | and how you use it |
| 17:42.03 | fungus | Right, Yum has some cool features that Apt doesn't. Not critical ones for most people, but really fun and useful. |
| 17:42.10 | herlo | one thign that every distroy has (or will have) is PackageKit. Making it simpler to install things from the web, or add additional functionality as needed... |
| 17:42.22 | herlo | s/roy/ro/ |
| 17:43.05 | herlo | such as when you are watching a movie, but you don't have the codec, packagekit can help the codec be found and installed from the repositories you have enabled |
| 17:43.33 | herlo | afaik, this currently only works in Fedora, but I suspect Ubuntu and SUSE will have it in their next releases. |
| 17:44.13 | herlo | mindjuju: get the video downloaded yet? |
| 17:45.02 | mindjuju | yeah, just queuing it up |
| 17:45.32 | herlo | fungus: wha!? |
| 17:45.39 | fungus | I have to install rsync on a crummy old SLES 9 box. |
| 17:45.59 | herlo | haha </nelson> |
| 17:46.53 | herlo | it's a barcamp session so it's got lots of context |
| 17:48.03 | mindjuju | i like that toolbar thing on the left side |
| 17:48.10 | mindjuju | so what is this? kde? |
| 17:48.22 | herlo | gnome |
| 17:48.37 | herlo | mindjuju: check 34:20 ish |
| 17:49.31 | herlo | er rather 39:20 |
| 17:52.41 | mindjuju | that's pretty cool! |
| 17:52.55 | herlo | yeah! |
| 17:53.01 | herlo | a bunch of new design |
| 17:53.19 | mindjuju | but that won't be stable for a while though, right? |
| 17:53.25 | mindjuju | or can i use that now? |
| 17:54.09 | herlo | well, you could |
| 17:54.31 | herlo | but the word "it's crashy" don't sound all that appealing for stability |
| 17:54.52 | herlo | they asked why they wouldn't want to use it now, he said, it's buggy |
| 17:54.59 | herlo | they said yeah, so |
| 17:55.03 | herlo | he said, it's really buggy |
| 17:55.09 | herlo | and crashes a lot |
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| 18:34.09 | mindjuju | where the heck is beandog? |
| 18:34.13 | mindjuju | darn that slacker |
| 18:34.18 | mindjuju | ~seen beandog |
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| 18:42.41 | mindjuju | beandog! |
| 18:42.48 | mindjuju | was just looking for ya bro |
| 18:43.08 | beandog | oh? |
| 18:43.08 | beandog | que tal |
| 18:43.19 | beandog | did you find a princess leia poster? |
| 18:43.27 | mindjuju | yeah, found some WAY cool posters for ya |
| 18:43.30 | beandog | :D |
| 18:43.31 | beandog | rawk |
| 18:43.34 | mindjuju | while i dig them out, you can watch this |
| 18:43.35 | beandog | share the wealth |
| 18:43.37 | mindjuju | pretty cool |
| 18:43.47 | mindjuju | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOtwdu5zyqo |
| 18:43.52 | mindjuju | no rickroll guarantee |
| 18:43.59 | beandog | astrogirl? |
| 18:44.00 | beandog | wtc |
| 18:44.30 | mindjuju | it's awesome! |
| 18:44.41 | mindjuju | tierra, you should check it out too |
| 18:45.11 | beandog | okay that was weird |
| 18:45.13 | mindjuju | so beandog, feast your peepers on this |
| 18:45.15 | mindjuju | http://cgi.ebay.com/Return-of-the-Jedi-POSTER-Star-Wars-AMAZING-ART-COLOR_W0QQitemZ370149730859QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item370149730859&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318 |
| 18:45.21 | mindjuju | and look at the price! |
| 18:45.30 | mindjuju | i was gonna buy it, but then i thought you prolly would |
| 18:45.31 | beandog | oh my crappy |
| 18:45.46 | mindjuju | he's got CRAZY good feedback |
| 18:45.48 | beandog | ah, too small |
| 18:45.49 | beandog | 17x24 |
| 18:45.50 | beandog | :T |
| 18:45.52 | mindjuju | and seems like that's all he sales |
| 18:45.52 | beandog | thats tiny |
| 18:46.07 | mindjuju | oh yeah, you're right |
| 18:46.12 | beandog | but yah that is amazingly gorgeous |
| 18:46.19 | beandog | quads are usually (about) 40x24 |
| 18:46.19 | mindjuju | he's got some other stuff too |
| 18:46.23 | mindjuju | i'll have to check the size |
| 18:46.48 | beandog | http://www.impawards.com/1983/return_of_the_jedi_ver1.html |
| 18:46.50 | beandog | I really like that one |
| 18:46.51 | beandog | simple |
| 18:46.51 | mindjuju | oh, now i'm sad |
| 18:47.04 | mindjuju | cause i ws goin to buy this one, but its the same size |
| 18:47.05 | mindjuju | http://cgi.ebay.com/Chuck-Norris-His-ACTION-JEANS-RARE-70s-Funny-POSTER_W0QQitemZ370144967108QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item370144967108&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318 |
| 18:47.28 | beandog | LOL |
| 18:47.30 | beandog | that is awesome |
| 18:47.45 | beandog | it wouldnt be bad |
| 18:47.51 | beandog | its just not as big as a movie poster (which is pretty large) |
| 18:47.56 | mindjuju | here is one of the same poster that you posted, but still that 12x24 |
| 18:48.01 | mindjuju | err, 17x24 |
| 18:48.02 | mindjuju | http://cgi.ebay.com/Return-of-the-Jedi-POSTER-Star-Wars-RARE-AMAZING_W0QQitemZ220343305018QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item220343305018&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318 |
| 18:48.18 | mindjuju | that astrogirl vid was awesome |
| 18:48.48 | beandog | http://www.moviepostersusa.com/products/Movie-Posters/STAR-WARS-EPISODE-VI-RETURN-OF-THE-JEDI-Movie-Poster3.html |
| 18:48.50 | beandog | ooh thats new |
| 18:49.14 | mindjuju | when i was in high school some theater friends and I did a series off Aliens |
| 18:49.17 | mindjuju | twas awesome |
| 18:49.36 | beandog | http://www.moviepostersusa.com/products/Movie-Posters/Star-Wars-Episode-VI-Return-Of-The-Jedi-Movie-Poster.html |
| 18:49.36 | mindjuju | that's cool! don't think iv'e seen that one |
| 18:49.38 | beandog | for you mindjuju ^^ |
| 18:49.54 | mindjuju | now we're talkin! |
| 18:50.20 | beandog | 27x40, too |
| 18:50.21 | beandog | :) |
| 18:58.11 | beandog | http://www.filmquadposters.co.uk/posters/starwarsepisode4advance.jpg |
| 18:58.14 | beandog | that is just classic. |
| 19:00.56 | mindjuju | yup, i've seen that one, rearranged a little |
| 19:02.21 | mindjuju | hey beandog, check this out |
| 19:02.23 | mindjuju | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpP9-PaAlSs&eurl=http://failblog.org |
| 19:02.28 | mindjuju | no rickroll guarantee |
| 19:03.31 | beandog | heh, that sucks |
| 19:03.51 | mindjuju | whoops, forgot to put on them lugnuts! |
| 19:15.40 | SunSparc | Looks like someone gettin a whoopin when I get out o this car... |
| 19:17.33 | mindjuju | @herlo - sounds like a cool viral marketing idea - http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9126860&intsrc=hm_list |
| 19:18.05 | beandog | hey herlo are you going to scale? |
| 19:18.40 | mindjuju | he is |
| 19:18.48 | beandog | can I hitch a ride :D |
| 19:21.21 | herlo | beandog: I'm presenting and we're not driving |
| 19:21.23 | herlo | but fizz is |
| 19:21.50 | herlo | beandog: he's in #utos iirc |
| 19:21.57 | beandog | alrightie |
| 19:22.02 | beandog | I better decide if Im even gonna go |
| 19:22.06 | herlo | there might be others |
| 19:22.06 | beandog | maybe I can get work to pay for it :D |
| 19:22.14 | herlo | beandog: it's an awesome con |
| 19:24.10 | mindjuju | wait a minute, wait a minute ... do what??? |
| 19:24.39 | mindjuju | M$ wants web devs to put in a special tag in HTML to protect IE8???? |
| 19:24.41 | mindjuju | http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9000189 |
| 19:25.35 | mindjuju | The problem is so vast that security researchers worry that Microsoft's approach, which works only when Web site developers add special tags to their pages that prevent their own Web buttons from being misused, may end up giving IE users a false sense of security. |
| 19:25.43 | beandog | "The attack is hard to pull off ..... The problem is so vast that" Uh, make up yo ur mind. |
| 19:26.09 | beandog | mindjuju, well only a complete MORON would equate IE with security. |
| 19:26.17 | mindjuju | is MS REALLY askign web devs to help THEM with their app |
| 19:27.59 | SunSparc | IE and security should not be in the same sentence together |
| 19:28.15 | beandog | not without a LOLcat caption |
| 19:28.28 | beandog | i can haz rootkit? |
| 19:28.39 | SunSparc | beandog: HEH, exactly |
| 19:28.56 | beandog | mindjuju, I imagine its a combination of javascript and social engineering |
| 19:29.02 | mindjuju | hmmm... might be affecting all browsers |
| 19:29.26 | beandog | the article didnt even describe what it is |
| 19:29.30 | mindjuju | here is mor einfo - http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9115700 |
| 19:29.31 | beandog | just tried to creat this panic about it |
| 19:29.41 | mindjuju | yeah, possible FUD |
| 19:30.01 | beandog | the web needs a reboot. |
| 19:31.30 | beandog | "Next, consider that an attack can invisibly hover these buttons below the users' mouse, so that when they click on something they visually see, they actually are clicking on something the attacker wants them to." |
| 19:31.51 | beandog | Even if it is that bad, it *still* could be a simple matter of disabling some remote access stuff |
| 19:32.02 | beandog | i.e., if I'm on mybank.com, don't access anything remote |
| 19:32.23 | beandog | I hate it when they play up the total fears without disclosing what the problem is |
| 19:33.05 | beandog | its like the local news. |
| 19:33.13 | beandog | "Whats in the air that could kill you! News at 11" |
| 19:33.53 | beandog | heh, the House killed the DTV delay |
| 19:35.01 | mindjuju | 4 months, right? |
| 19:35.09 | mindjuju | oh wait, they killed the delay? |
| 19:35.15 | beandog | right, back to Feb. |
| 19:35.16 | beandog | :) |
| 19:35.49 | beandog | I really dont see the problem |
| 19:35.57 | beandog | Itll be chaotic sure .... but for like ... *one week* |
| 19:36.58 | mindjuju | chacotic... "Holy Crap!, there is no TV" |
| 19:37.01 | mindjuju | run for the hills! |
| 19:37.05 | mindjuju | societal collapse! |
| 19:37.16 | beandog | seriously |
| 19:37.25 | beandog | they just need to broadcast on the old analog a message for a month |
| 19:37.27 | beandog | and done |
| 19:37.31 | mindjuju | oh wait, there is this new things called books i could "read" in the meantime? |
| 19:37.33 | mindjuju | no way! |
| 19:37.42 | mindjuju | and something called a radio?! |
| 19:37.46 | mindjuju | surely you jest! |
| 19:38.07 | beandog | man, I wish radio would switch to digital |
| 19:38.29 | beandog | so even with a weak signal it'd still be crystal clear |
| 19:39.14 | orsonj | don__you __an it wou__ be cr__tal clea__ |
| 19:40.10 | beandog | lol |
| 19:40.12 | beandog | :) |
| 19:40.18 | orsonj | Although that could probably be corrected with a good error correction mechanism |
| 19:41.11 | orsonj | The problem with radio isn't digital/analog, it is ads |
| 19:41.21 | orsonj | same problem with tv |
| 19:41.52 | orsonj | internet tv/radio seems to do better |
| 19:41.54 | beandog | ads are far worse on radio |
| 19:42.56 | orsonj | I don't know, I don't use either |
| 19:50.04 | itimber | ~podcasts++ |
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| 19:50.15 | orsonj | yes |
| 19:50.39 | itimber | or |
| 19:50.43 | itimber | ~pandora++ |
| 19:50.54 | itimber | or |
| 19:51.00 | itimber | ~RaveTrax.com++ |
| 19:51.25 | SunSparc | ~Pandora++ |
| 19:51.47 | SunSparc | ~emusic++ |
| 19:52.25 | SunSparc | ~karma Pandora |
| 19:52.26 | jbot | pandora has karma of 9 |
| 19:52.28 | SunSparc | Sweet |
| 19:52.33 | mindjuju | psh |
| 19:52.43 | mindjuju | ~pandora-- |
| 19:52.52 | itimber | what?!?! |
| 19:52.54 | mindjuju | ~karma pandora |
| 19:52.54 | jbot | pandora has karma of 8 |
| 19:52.57 | mindjuju | :) |
| 19:52.59 | SunSparc | ~psh |
| 19:53.00 | jbot | Tooltips for the UNIX shell. URL: http://users.gtn.net/fraserm/psh.html, or timinator's favorite word, much like mgeary's kk |
| 19:53.08 | itimber | mindjuju: explain yourself! |
| 19:53.17 | mindjuju | pandora is evil |
| 19:53.26 | mindjuju | ! |
| 19:53.30 | itimber | psh is my fav word?? |
| 19:53.31 | mindjuju | eats on your brain |
| 19:53.33 | itimber | psh |
| 19:53.53 | SunSparc | mindjuju: you sure put up a good act for not liking Pandora when we all know you secretly love it. |
| 19:54.08 | mindjuju | (psh)^2 |
| 19:54.08 | itimber | ya |
| 19:54.38 | SunSparc | ~pandora++ |
| 19:54.41 | mindjuju | their selection of baby anne music is meager to say the least |
| 19:55.18 | SunSparc | While I am dishing out karma... |
| 19:55.22 | SunSparc | ~ie-- |
| 19:55.42 | SunSparc | ~Firefox++ |
| 19:55.48 | SunSparc | ~karma ie |
| 19:55.48 | jbot | ie has karma of -7 |
| 19:55.55 | SunSparc | Still not enough |
| 19:55.56 | dataw0lf | ~Safari++ |
| 19:56.09 | SunSparc | ~Safari++ |
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| 19:56.26 | beandog | http://techspank.com/?p=174 |
| 19:56.50 | mindjuju | Mosaic++ |
| 19:57.16 | SunSparc | ~Pandora mindjuju |
| 19:59.00 | thebigdog | epiphany-webkit++ |
| 20:00.47 | SunSparc | lynx++ |
| 20:01.07 | mindjuju | another bad thing about pandora is that it has no flow, sure this song sounds good and that one does, but it doesn't flow together |
| 20:01.23 | SunSparc | ~lart mindjuju |
| 20:01.23 | jbot | blasts mindjuju with a huge firehose then strangles mindjuju with it |
| 20:01.24 | mindjuju | techno should be at least an hour long and flow |
| 20:01.35 | mindjuju | yipes! |
| 20:01.42 | mindjuju | SunSparc, such hate! |
| 20:01.43 | SunSparc | :) |
| 20:01.50 | mindjuju | and discontent! |
| 20:02.18 | SunSparc | You quit badmouthing my Pandora |
| 20:02.31 | mindjuju | ~poo pandora |
| 20:02.32 | jbot | ACTION summons a troop of flying monkeys to fling their poo at pandora |
| 20:02.34 | SunSparc | She's a nice girl she is. |
| 20:03.16 | SunSparc | ~rescure Pandora |
| 20:03.31 | thebigdog | mindjuju, that is why i have been using last.fm over pandora...it has great flow and it will add new stuff that i have not heard before too |
| 20:03.32 | SunSparc | ~rescue Pandora |
| 20:03.33 | jbot | ACTION leaps into certain danger to rescue Pandora and return Pandora to safety! |
| 20:04.33 | beandog | ah, last.fm |
| 20:04.36 | beandog | nothing but love |
| 20:04.54 | thebigdog | i have come across some great tunes...that is how i got into the music dataw0lf was asking about a couple weeks back |
| 20:05.33 | mindjuju | what was it bossa nova? |
| 20:06.25 | beandog | I bet it was new kids |
| 20:06.35 | dataw0lf | tropicalista |
| 20:06.44 | mindjuju | :) i remember thebigdog mentioning he listens to bossa nova |
| 20:07.09 | mindjuju | tropicallista? i'll have to look for some to hear it |
| 20:07.23 | dataw0lf | been listening to a lot of Gal Costa |
| 20:07.26 | dataw0lf | mindjuju: one sec |
| 20:08.04 | dataw0lf | http://www.imeem.com/people/iZfRcfD/music/BMlukoBR/various_artists_vou_recomecar_gal_costa/ |
| 20:09.24 | mindjuju | ugh, got to fake a new account and ithink dodgit.com has gone out of business |
| 20:09.33 | dataw0lf | std3rr@gmail.com/printf |
| 20:10.13 | mindjuju | awesome! thx! |
| 20:10.18 | dataw0lf | np |
| 20:11.05 | mindjuju | has kind of a 60's feel |
| 20:11.18 | mindjuju | funk |
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| 20:15.22 | dataw0lf | yea it's from the 60s |
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| 20:34.07 | trevynmeyer_ | DexterTheDragon: herlo said to contact you about some work. |
| 20:34.13 | trevynmeyer_ | PM me if you are interested. |
| 20:34.30 | herlo | trevynmeyer_: pm him directly, don't bother the channel |
| 20:34.42 | trevynmeyer_ | herlo: word |
| 20:35.00 | herlo | :) |
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| 20:35.41 | mgeary | ooohhh |
| 20:35.42 | mgeary | low blow |
| 20:35.51 | itimber | hehe |
| 20:36.20 | mgeary | was a a Dr appt for my kid |
| 20:37.08 | mindjuju | sure sure |
| 20:37.21 | mindjuju | when i play hooky, that's exactly the excuse i use |
| 20:37.26 | mindjuju | :) |
| 20:42.00 | itimber | ya... I'm in a Dr. appt for my kid nearly every morning.... |
| 20:42.24 | itimber | and 1 on the way!!!!! |
| 20:42.30 | itimber | :) |
| 20:42.57 | SunSparc | Congrats itimber! |
| 20:43.02 | itimber | thx |
| 20:43.08 | mindjuju | congrats! |
| 20:43.27 | mindjuju | ~give everybody a pink rubber cigar in honor of itimber |
| 20:43.27 | jbot | ACTION gives a pink rubber cigar in honor of itimber to everybody |
| 20:43.35 | itimber | haven't really told anyone cept family and close friends |
| 20:43.37 | itimber | till now |
| 20:43.42 | itimber | you guys are the first :) |
| 20:43.51 | itimber | cause I luv ya |
| 20:43.55 | mindjuju | :) |
| 20:46.07 | itimber | as you should.... now, anyone know anything about vasectomy's? |
| 20:46.11 | itimber | hehe |
| 20:46.24 | SunSparc | You shoot blanks ever after. |
| 20:46.33 | thebigdog | dont do it |
| 20:47.08 | mindjuju | it's not like they can't reattach everything |
| 20:47.12 | SunSparc | thebigdog: that is the best form of birth control for the unwed. |
| 20:47.17 | mindjuju | but i wouldn't do it |
| 20:47.28 | itimber | don't do it? what do you recommend thebigdog? Abstinence? |
| 20:47.41 | thebigdog | hehe i told my wife to get fixed |
| 20:47.49 | itimber | ah |
| 20:47.59 | mindjuju | don't do the "we'lltime it and skip *this week*" |
| 20:48.07 | mindjuju | cause i know of 3 instances where that FAILED |
| 20:48.26 | itimber | LOL |
| 20:48.28 | mindjuju | 2 of 'em in the same couple |
| 20:48.46 | mindjuju | it's like, d00d, it don't work! |
| 20:49.08 | itimber | time for a new thermometer! |
| 20:49.09 | itimber | :) |
| 20:49.32 | SunSparc | or a prophylactic |
| 20:49.44 | itimber | LOL |
| 20:50.02 | itimber | I have a few Catholic friends that use the tem method |
| 20:50.05 | itimber | and they're good at it |
| 20:50.16 | SunSparc | tem? |
| 20:50.21 | itimber | can tell you the day they conceived on all their kids |
| 20:50.29 | itimber | *temp |
| 20:50.58 | itimber | used to figure out *this week* |
| 20:51.00 | unum | I think the timing thing works better for some women then others |
| 20:51.01 | SunSparc | It takes a lot of monitoring and accuracy. |
| 20:51.02 | thebigdog | man i dont see how people have mistakes |
| 20:51.24 | mindjuju | yeah, unum, does work better for some than others |
| 20:51.44 | mindjuju | as i say, if things aren't "regular" you're rolling dice |
| 20:51.53 | mindjuju | and with that, i got to finish out some code |
| 20:51.58 | itimber | LOL |
| 20:52.31 | itimber | congrats eggyknap |
| 20:52.42 | itimber | how many weeks is she? |
| 20:52.44 | mindjuju | that's awesome eggyknap! |
| 20:53.00 | SunSparc | eggyknap: Congrats! |
| 20:53.06 | eggyknap | Apparently this one's a girl... who has two excited older brothers :) Officially she's due 6 Feb. |
| 20:54.01 | itimber | if she's born on Superbowl Sunday, will she have to be into sports? How does that work? |
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| 20:55.28 | eggyknap | where "it" == "she'll be into sports" |
| 20:56.42 | itimber | right on |
| 21:04.22 | fungus | eww |
| 21:04.32 | fungus | anonymous subs in perl?? why? |
| 21:04.52 | eggyknap | 'Cuz it's really *really* useful. :) |
| 21:05.23 | fungus | That's one of those perl features that make code even more impossible to read. |
| 21:05.36 | eggyknap | In this case, I've got a bunch of different actions I want to perform. Rather than pick a random number and a bunch of if/elsif's, or some switch/case sort of thing, I randomly pick one of a list of anonymous sub ref's. |
| 21:05.57 | eggyknap | ...and it's not terribly painful to read in this case. |
| 21:06.18 | eggyknap | ...though it does help to like Perl :) |
| 21:06.22 | fungus | ok, but remember to tread carefully when writing perl code. |
| 21:06.56 | fungus | I've run across some of my old perl code years later to find I don't have a clue in hell how it works. |
| 21:08.21 | fungus | Don't get me wrong. I "like" perl. as long as it is used carefully, and used when it is best suited. |
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| 21:10.23 | eggyknap | Stoopid network connection. |
| 21:14.38 | beandog | its probably run by perl. |
| 21:36.02 | mgeary | so my company may find itself looking for another FT mid-level coder soon |
| 21:36.22 | mgeary | FYI |
| 21:36.40 | mindjuju | are you going to post to the site? |
| 21:36.57 | mgeary | when it become a known issue, i will |
| 21:37.02 | mindjuju | are you going to force the new person to use a mac? |
| 21:37.05 | mgeary | yes |
| 21:37.13 | mindjuju | :) |
| 21:37.32 | mgeary | we've got a deal up in the air that if successful might well demand that we increase our bandwidth |
| 21:37.45 | thebigdog | mgeary, can i get a mac fro part time |
| 21:37.45 | mgeary | and we're getting good vibes |
| 21:37.46 | mindjuju | that's good news! |
| 21:37.59 | mgeary | thebigdog: sure |
| 21:38.03 | mindjuju | congrats mgeary on company expanding |
| 21:40.35 | dataw0lf | mgeary: pay? |
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| 21:41.18 | mgeary | dataw0lf: not sure yet. Would be influenced by the experience of the candidate |
| 21:41.26 | dataw0lf | mgeary: where is it at? |
| 21:41.31 | mgeary | Orem |
| 21:41.51 | dataw0lf | whew. |
| 21:42.06 | mindjuju | whew? |
| 21:42.06 | mgeary | whew? |
| 21:42.08 | mgeary | heh |
| 21:42.09 | mgeary | jinx |
| 21:42.28 | dataw0lf | pretty far from Salt Lake proper. |
| 21:42.36 | dataw0lf | I like to ride my bike into work |
| 21:42.54 | dataw0lf | well let me know if you guys do start hiring and I'll send you my resume |
| 21:42.55 | mgeary | aha |
| 21:43.00 | mgeary | absolutely |
| 21:43.08 | dataw0lf | word |
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| 21:55.38 | thebigdog | we should start calling this channel geeks in utah |
| 21:56.11 | mgeary | ah, but how would our #utahpython friends feel if we co-opted that all to ourselves? ;) |
| 21:57.27 | thebigdog | that channel sucks |
| 21:57.33 | mgeary | awww |
| 21:57.41 | mgeary | i like it |
| 21:58.01 | thebigdog | is that a usergroup? |
| 21:58.15 | mgeary | it's the Utah Python UG |
| 21:58.25 | mgeary | thebigdog: do you do much/any python? |
| 21:58.39 | thebigdog | i do python |
| 21:58.43 | thebigdog | but i am not part of that group |
| 21:58.55 | mgeary | you make it sound personal |
| 21:59.02 | thebigdog | we need urapug back |
| 21:59.02 | mgeary | "i am not part of THAT group" |
| 21:59.23 | thebigdog | there is only one user group in utah |
| 21:59.25 | thebigdog | hehe |
| 21:59.46 | thebigdog | the activity is low though |
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| 22:01.19 | thebigdog | but i might see how it works out |
| 22:01.38 | thebigdog | but im down for urapug that is what we need right dataw0lf ? |
| 22:02.11 | mgeary | what's urapug? |
| 22:02.14 | mgeary | ~urapug |
| 22:02.14 | jbot | hmm... urapug is Utah Ruby and Python User Group - #urapug, or <reply> no, YOU'RE a pug! |
| 22:02.18 | mgeary | aha |
| 22:02.27 | mgeary | do we HAVE to let those Ruby freaks in? |
| 22:02.59 | thebigdog | oh sure |
| 22:08.01 | beandog | man utah has a lot of groups |
| 22:08.36 | beandog | or, uggu .. utah group group users! |
| 22:08.38 | beandog | even better. |
| 22:09.24 | thebigdog | oh yeah |
| 22:12.59 | DexterTheDragon | sweet |
| 22:13.02 | mgeary | hey, don't look at me. I took down the UG that i started and managed for 8 years |
| 22:13.17 | thebigdog | which one was that |
| 22:13.28 | mgeary | Utah Director & Flash Users Group. It was an Adobe group |
| 22:13.36 | mgeary | never had an IRC presence |
| 22:14.14 | herlo | urapug?? that's odd |
| 22:14.44 | herlo | mgeary: I go to utah python about every month |
| 22:15.23 | jsmith | How 'bout UGLY... Utah Groups for Linux out Yonder... |
| 22:16.31 | thebigdog | herlo it was a group for like a couple months |
| 22:16.40 | thebigdog | we even had a meeting once that i attended |
| 22:16.56 | unum | ugotta = utah groups online talking to all |
| 22:16.58 | thebigdog | i meet dataw0lf and some others there |
| 22:17.16 | herlo | hmm, interesting |
| 22:17.52 | thebigdog | but it never took off |
| 22:17.58 | DexterTheDragon | but ya just can't have ruby and python people in the same room |
| 22:19.47 | dataw0lf | I actually get better ideas from Ruby programmers than I do from my fellow Pythonistas, usually. |
| 22:29.51 | itimber | question: I'm trying to find out which host runs a particular website |
| 22:29.56 | itimber | any way to do that |
| 22:31.16 | thebigdog | depends |
| 22:31.30 | thebigdog | hard to do if the site is proxied in any way |
| 22:31.44 | orsonj | host as in which machine, or host as in hosting provider |
| 22:32.10 | itimber | hosting provider |
| 22:32.18 | unum | I'd whois their ip address |
| 22:32.38 | thebigdog | but sometimes that ip address might be on a reseller |
| 22:32.52 | thebigdog | however you will probably find out where the box is though |
| 22:34.27 | orsonj | you could always try emailing the webmaster and asking |
| 22:36.28 | thebigdog | what is the ip address itimber |
| 22:37.53 | SunSparc | orsonj: Yes, it was on that. |
| 22:38.09 | SunSparc | orsonj: Although multiple shows have been watched in more than just one movie. |
| 22:38.20 | SunSparc | Another was D.A.R.Y.L. |
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| 22:39.19 | orsonj | I guess the DTV transition mention started that line of thought. DTV > 4 channels in one > some kid watching 4 channels at once... |
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| 22:39.55 | orsonj | The computer who wore tennis shoes. (I think they did that there too) |
| 23:02.26 | thebigdog | i so need the ability to watch 6 channels at once |
| 23:03.22 | SunSparc | PIPx6 |
| 23:03.31 | thebigdog | i love those people that ask if they can hire you to do some work and when you discuss pricing all of a sudden they have a brother that can do it or something |
| 23:04.05 | SunSparc | Yeah, that is when you walk out and say, good luck to your brother. |
| 23:08.32 | macnewbold | ~rlart |
| 23:08.33 | jbot | shoots eco in his sleep |
| 23:15.45 | beandog | "that isn't very sporting, using real bullets" |
| 23:15.48 | beandog | name that movie! |
| 23:17.40 | fungus | North by Northwest |
| 23:17.54 | herlo | fungus looked it up on imdb |
| 23:18.02 | fungus | :) |
| 23:18.13 | beandog | aaaah |
| 23:18.14 | herlo | fungus: funny because I had just gottent it |
| 23:18.15 | beandog | punk. |
| 23:18.20 | herlo | from imdb |
| 23:18.33 | herlo | beandog: you didn't say we couldn't use imdb |
| 23:18.36 | herlo | or the google |
| 23:18.41 | herlo | :-P |
| 23:18.55 | beandog | thas true |
| 23:30.32 | SunSparc | North by Northwest is a good flick |
| 23:30.53 | SunSparc | Just got that on DVD last year. |
| 23:34.50 | dataw0lf | Hitchcock++ |
| 23:35.09 | tierra | I just watched that a couple weeks ago |
| 23:35.50 | SunSparc | dataw0lf: Agreed. Hitchcock++ |
| 23:36.07 | tierra | I didn't really consider it much of a 'thriller' though, I imagine it's lost it's touch over time though |
| 23:39.33 | dataw0lf | Well NxNW was one of Hitchcock's more light-hearted ventures. |
| 23:39.56 | dataw0lf | Vertigo is a great thriller, though. |
| 23:42.12 | dataw0lf | or Rear Window |
| 23:42.21 | dataw0lf | or The Birds.... Psycho.... |
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| 23:55.38 | SunSparc | The Birds was freaky when I watched it as a teenager. |
| 23:55.42 | SunSparc | Later all! |
