IRC log for #uphpu on 20090114

00:01.22SunSparclaterz!!
00:09.12itimberI'm out guys... late!
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15:49.21carmonyGood morning
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16:27.20PoeticIntensitymornin'.
16:27.27PoeticIntensity~yawn
16:27.28jbot*YAWN*  I get *YAWN* tired just thinking of large boxes of unknown substances being poured into nooks and crannies and eaten by little monsters that like to kill fluffy bunnies and oh god I'm tired..
16:27.41mindjujumorning poeticintensity
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16:31.29*** topic/#UPHPU by mindjuju -> Meeting Tomorrow Cake with PHP 7pm :: Kevin Carter | Utah PHP Users | uphpu.org
16:36.00mgearywps: hey
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16:59.33mgearygreat stuff
17:00.09mindjujuso, i'm thinking of running all email through gmail.  what ya'll think?
17:00.25mgearyi dinna like it
17:00.29mindjujuie, i have prolly 5 email accounts that are active, want to run them all through one interface
17:01.04mindjujumgeary, was that i donna like it or what is dnna ?
17:01.16mgearythat's my scottish brogue coming to bear
17:01.32mgearyi'm reluctant to put all my eggs in one basket, as it were
17:01.35mindjujui just wish it let me make folders
17:01.39mindjujuah gotcha
17:02.08mindjujutrue, i'm normally not like this, but it would be nice to pick up ALL emails from a centralized web based location
17:03.18jsmithmindjuju: It'll let you create folders if you use IMAP -- it just maps IMAP folders to labels
17:03.32mindjujuoh cool!
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17:07.54mindjujuanybody here use thunderbird or another email client
17:08.08mindjujumy outlook is seriously jacked up, and don't know why
17:08.22mindjujuhaven't modded it in any way, have checked everything and researched, etc
17:08.22mgeary~windows mindjuju
17:08.23jbotACTION installs Windows ME on mindjuju's PC.
17:08.25mindjujujust tired of it
17:08.30mindjujuyipes!
17:08.32mindjujunot ME!
17:10.31thebigdogmindjuju, i use thunderbird all the time and i hate gmail
17:11.20mindjujuthebigdog, how many messages do you get a day? is it more than a hundred?
17:11.37thebigdogoh yes
17:11.41Utah_Davemindjuju: I love gmail! seriously. I love the labels and don't even miss folders
17:12.04thebigdoghehe i hate gmail for that reason...i love folders and i love imap
17:12.05Utah_Davejust think of the labels as folders and archive everything
17:12.09mindjujuutah_Dave, was just looking at labels
17:12.24Utah_Daveseriously, I don't know why people have such a hangup about not having folders
17:12.43thebigdogit is not so much folders but how crappy their imap implementation works
17:12.44Utah_Daveyou give it a label and then archive it.
17:12.50Utah_Davejust search for everything else
17:13.04Utah_Davetrue, imap does pretty much suck, but I don't use imap very much
17:13.36mgearyyou use POP???
17:13.39thebigdogand i hate the web interface...i just want something simple like an email client
17:13.50Utah_DaveI use the web interface
17:13.52mgearyimap has its quirks, but it beats the pants off  pop
17:14.03mgearyah
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18:48.03itimbersup guys
18:48.17croyo itimber
18:48.27itimberclock me in mgeary
18:48.30itimbersup cro
18:48.33mgearyalready did, itimber
18:48.46mgearyyour 3.5-hour workday has begun
18:48.48itimberlooks like HopeKids is doing stellar
18:48.52itimberty mgeary
18:49.06itimbersheesh... if that were only true
18:49.08itimberLOL
18:49.27croitimber: thanks, yes it is.  In fact we got 2 new unexpected events on the calendar and Starbucks is going to help us with some too
18:49.36itimbernice
18:49.41itimberthat's awesome cro
18:49.49croit is, God is good
18:50.08itimberfo sho
18:50.45itimberit's success in UT is due, in no small part, to your efforts though
18:51.05crodunno about the "no small part" part :-)
18:51.33crobut thanks for the compliment
18:51.42itimber:)
18:51.44itimbernp
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18:59.18thebigdogit is really sad when the memory you bought 2 yrs ago is a fraction of the cost
19:04.42itimberthat's the way it works man
19:05.22itimberanyone need a solid IT / Sys Admin guy?
19:05.31itimbergot a buddy trying to get to UT
19:05.41itimberfull time type work
19:06.20itimberhe's been in the industry for years
19:08.51dataw0lfMay be moving back to SLC soonish, might be looking for a job myself.
19:10.20tierrareally?
19:12.08tierrabrb
19:14.02dataw0lftierra: yup, we had a 61 person layoff in December, and this quarter they're giving us a mandatory 5 day furlough (we get to choose the days, at least).  I just don't feel comfortable with my job here anymore.
19:14.55mindjuju1sorry to hear that dataw0lf
19:15.36thebigdogif anyone is doing java and looking for work let me know
19:15.38dataw0lf*shrug* Gannett is just retarded, and newspaper companies are going to have to be really clever to compensate for the technology changes that've hit them lately.
19:34.23mindjuju1~mgeary++
19:34.46mgearyi really hate how when you copy a bulleted item in Word, and you specifically DON'T copy the bullet, when you paste, the bullet come sin anyway
19:35.00mgeary~roulette
19:35.01jbotACTION watches mgeary pull the trigger:  Click!
19:35.27mindjuju1ouch
19:35.27thebigdoghehe
19:35.35thebigdogi have 128m that was about that
19:35.45mindjuju1i remember paying $250 for a 500MB hard drive for my Dad for Christmas
19:35.49thebigdogthe good ol' days
19:35.52mgearyonly $100? I paid $400 for an 8MB upgrade back in '93
19:36.13mindjuju1and now, I just spent $100 on a 1T drive
19:36.45thebigdogi remember paying $258 for 2g ram about 2 yrs ago and the same ram is like $35 now
19:39.21unummgeary: my 16mb sim was a screaming deal :)
19:39.30mgearyseriously
19:48.58SunSparchehe, unum that was good times.  I remember finding a 512k stick for my parents system.
19:51.07itimberso... what's the best way in mysql, to check if a date is older than today?
19:51.42itimber`date` < ".date("Y-m-d")
19:51.43mgearyif (sometable.somefield < now())
19:52.01mgearywell, that wasn't very good sql, was it?
19:52.03mgearyhow about:
19:52.14itimberor matching YEAR, MONTH and DAY
19:52.27mgearybut why not just use > ?
19:53.41itimberI do... I'm just asking about best practice
19:58.04mgearywell, matching YMD is a pain. AFAIK, best practice is to use < = >
19:58.10mgearyand/or BETWEEN()
19:58.30itimberso: WHERE `date` < NOW()
19:58.35itimberk
20:00.32mgearypsh
20:38.40mindjuju1ugh, totally forgot that i'm out of bread, no sandwiches for me
20:38.42mindjuju1:(
20:41.42macnewbold~lart mindjuju1
20:41.42jbotdrops a humongous exploding nuke on mindjuju1
20:41.45macnewbold~nickometer mindjuju1
20:41.51macnewboldouvh
20:41.52macnewboldouch
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20:42.31mindjuju~give macnewbold a kick in the butt
20:42.31jbotACTION gives a kick in the butt to macnewbold
20:42.36mindjuju:)
20:42.45mindjujuk, i'm headed out for Chinese food
20:42.55mindjujucause, man can not live by bread alone
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20:43.16mindjujuthough note they didn't say that man couldn't live by General Tso's chicken alone, cause that ain't true, you could
20:52.55SunSparcIt would be an enjoyable yet short life.  ;)
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20:53.51mindjujunah
20:54.43SunSparcGeneral Tso's is a favorite dish in my house.
20:55.11SunSparcI like a nice warm bowl of hot and spicy to go along with it.
20:55.20mindjujuyeah, totally yum
20:58.03SunSparcThe wife really digs the won tons with the red sweet and sour sauce to dip them in.
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21:22.42mindjujuadios gents!  It's been real!  I'm off to the great barrier reef for my new job!  - www.islandreefjob.com
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21:26.09mindjujusupposedly the job pays $110k, which is a smidgen low, but i'll take it
21:26.25DexterTheDragonmindjuju: what happened to the fbi job?
21:26.35mindjujupsh, fbi!
21:27.47mindjujuok, things not quite so rosey, it's $150k AUD == $98,988.89 USD
21:27.53mindjujuhmmm... i think i'll still take it
21:28.24mindjujuoh wait, that's for 6 months contract!
21:29.35SunSparcJust renew after 6 months.
21:29.47mindjujui know, that's nearly 200k a year
21:29.48SunSparcThat is more like $200k
21:29.51SunSparc:)
21:32.03SunSparcWow, that does look like a nice job.
21:32.07SunSparcIs this legit?
21:32.16SunSparcSeems too good to be true.
21:33.05thebigdogfbi is hard to get into though
21:33.21SunSparcThat is an FBI job?
21:33.39SunSparcFun Beach Interaction
21:34.31thebigdogwell hehe
21:34.57mindjujuit is legit
21:35.08mindjujuthebigdog, the fbi is having a big job hire
21:35.12mindjuju2100 people to be hired
21:35.14mindjujuall departments
21:35.16thebigdogyeah
21:35.34thebigdogbut remember they are very selective...however, cs they do then do hire a bunch of
21:35.47SunSparcLooks like they got a budget increase.  I guess we are going to be paying for more government jobs now.
21:35.59mindjujuSunsparc, I think the job is being offered by the Australian gov
21:36.00thebigdogmost likely
21:36.31SunSparcOh, you mean, AFBI?  ;)
21:44.08thebigdogi had a buddy that applied for the fbi and since he had a computer degree that got him in the interview process pretty fast
21:44.14thebigdogweeks compared to months
21:50.46Utah_Davethe fbi hires fast when they want to
21:51.00Utah_Davemost of the time it's a pain in the butt. takes forever
21:51.20Utah_DaveYou basically apply and then continue on with your life
21:51.34Utah_DaveThen you might get a call a year or 2 down the road and they want you
21:52.20thebigdogyep
21:59.12orsonjmindjuju: there is chinese food everywhere. no worries about that.
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22:58.30mindjujuwho here does c#
23:04.57SunSparc~lart c#
23:04.57jbotpours hot grits down the front of c#'s pants
23:05.17SunSparc~lynch mindjuju
23:05.41orsonjfor a second I thought that said hot girls, not hot grits...
23:05.53SunSparcfreudian slip?
23:05.55SunSparc;)
23:06.05orsonjnot much of a lart if that were the case
23:06.14SunSparcTrue
23:08.33itimberI'm out guys.... did I make 3.5 hrs mgeary ??
23:08.36itimberLOL
23:08.53mgearyjeeze, more like 4.5, itimber. Take an extra hour off tomorrow
23:09.09itimberfo sho.... hahaha
23:09.20itimberlaters!
23:12.58DexterTheDragonhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/01/14/steve-jobs-is-taking-a-leave-of-absence-from-apple-due-to-healt/
23:27.02orsonjheh, wps thinks he's hiring an answer to a question.
23:29.32thebigdognice
23:31.49mgearyorsonj: huh?
23:31.55orsonj[UPHPU-jobs] changing which row gets used on a MySQL GROUP BY
23:31.59mindjujuDexterTheDragon - that's awesome
23:32.15mgearyah
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23:58.46mindjujuKHAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
23:59.10mindjujuRicardo Montalban died - http://movies.yahoo.com/news/movies.ap.org/ricardo-montalban-dies-88-ap

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