| 00:07.58 | beandog | mmm, novell |
| 00:08.31 | beandog | the only place that will fire you and then hire you back for more |
| 00:12.40 | itimber | I'm out... later guys |
| 00:19.26 | thebigdog | beandog, are you working at novell? |
| 00:20.00 | beandog | thebigdog, not anymore |
| 00:20.27 | thebigdog | hehe...i think that would be the worst place to work |
| 00:20.41 | beandog | I actually liked it a lot |
| 00:24.56 | Utah_Dave | It seems like Novell lays off their entire workforce every 90 days or so |
| 00:25.03 | Utah_Dave | and then rehires |
| 00:25.05 | Utah_Dave | them |
| 00:26.41 | tierra | as long as there's a nice severance package :) |
| 00:41.46 | carmony | I just hate using their crap |
| 00:43.34 | tierra | opensuse is pretty nice actually... not that I use it, but it's better than most, and Novell made huge improvements to it when they picked it up |
| 00:44.50 | tierra | I really just don't understand why it seems like most people have a biased hate towards Novell... they've done a ton of really nice things |
| 00:45.35 | tierra | the Tango Project, Beagle, F-Spot to name a few |
| 00:47.25 | carmony | I hate their Novell Client for Windows :P |
| 00:47.32 | tierra | for Netware? |
| 00:47.36 | carmony | yeah |
| 00:47.55 | carmony | we're having problems it screwing up printing |
| 00:47.58 | tierra | well, Netware was always a piece of crap, but that was years ago |
| 00:48.11 | carmony | well, it hasn't changed unfortunatly |
| 00:49.48 | unum | we are in the netware->solaris process right now |
| 00:49.53 | unum | I'm pretty excited about that |
| 01:04.09 | mgeary | hey, i want to process some videos with ffmpeg and keep their aspect ratio while setting a box into which the video needs to fit. Is there a parameter to do this? I only see the -s WxH parameter, which would force me to calculate the new target size for each file |
| 01:09.52 | fungus | From Netware *to* Solaris... Eww. |
| 01:10.16 | fungus | A small step better, but, boy, a very small step |
| 01:19.09 | Utah_Dave | Oh, this is hilarious: http://www.theonion.com/content/video/apple_introduces_revolutionary |
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| 02:28.59 | Omniflux | ex. INTEGER: 33 |
| 02:35.00 | Omniflux | snmp_set_quick_print is the solution. |
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| 16:58.10 | carmony | sup macnewbold :) |
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| 17:13.47 | macnewbold | just thought it was time someone did a little driveby action this morning |
| 17:13.53 | macnewbold | how you doing? |
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| 17:18.52 | carmony | pretty good, Q1 of 2009 is being a little rocky for me, but I can't complain too much. |
| 17:25.34 | mindjuju | whoh is it that lives near layton |
| 17:25.37 | mindjuju | is that thebigdog? |
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| 17:28.19 | carmony | yeah |
| 17:28.45 | thebigdog | i do |
| 17:28.52 | mindjuju | was just reading the enws and saw there was a 25 car pile up by layton mall - http://www.heraldextra.com/content/view/294865/17/ |
| 17:30.34 | carmony | yuck |
| 17:30.45 | carmony | those layton drives just don't understand how to drive ;) |
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| 17:31.01 | mindjuju | sounds like it! |
| 17:31.35 | DexterTheDragon | well, "The highway patrol says there were 180 crashes reported in Salt Lake and Utah counties, plus 35 slide-offs. More snow was likely Tuesday, again potentially snarling the evening commute. " |
| 17:32.00 | mindjuju | :) |
| 17:32.05 | mindjuju | was just teasin' |
| 17:32.22 | mindjuju | they prolly got lots more snow than we did in utah county |
| 17:32.36 | carmony | This is why I am glad I telecommute |
| 17:32.46 | mindjuju | plus on the way home, there was a jack-knifed 18 wheeler that was taking out 2 lanes of 1-57 |
| 17:32.52 | mindjuju | err, I15 |
| 17:33.22 | mindjuju | ogden, no? |
| 17:33.30 | fungus | It was really yucky. My normal 10min commute last night was stretched to 15min. |
| 17:33.30 | DexterTheDragon | yeah we had 4-5 inches up in ogden |
| 17:33.54 | mindjuju | fungus, you're hilarious, my commute was like 30 min longer |
| 17:34.29 | carmony | my 45 second commute was delayed by 2 minutes, cause I had to get some hot cholocate it was so cold! |
| 17:34.38 | fungus | lol, even worse. |
| 17:35.02 | unum | there several nasty intersections by the layton hill mall |
| 17:35.15 | carmony | yeah there is |
| 17:35.26 | carmony | I can see how one idiot could pile up 14 other cars |
| 17:35.59 | mindjuju | there wer e some fast moving cars yesterday on teh way home |
| 17:36.34 | mindjuju | like i was going 45 ~ 50 which was the common speed in the fast lane and was passed quickly by somebody driving through HOV lane |
| 17:36.41 | mindjuju | prolly going at least 15mph faster |
| 17:37.26 | carmony | its scary |
| 17:37.49 | carmony | I came about 6 inches from being t-boned by a Ford Excursion |
| 17:38.03 | mindjuju | yipes |
| 17:38.21 | carmony | I know... Corolla vs Excursion.... hrm... who do you think would win? |
| 17:38.34 | carmony | The lady on her cell phone looked totally confused why she didn't stop at the stop sign |
| 17:44.26 | unum | I know someone who drove her metro into an excursion |
| 17:44.35 | unum | she managed to pop one of their tires |
| 17:44.50 | unum | other than that the excursion came out unscathed |
| 17:47.11 | herlo | carmony: yeah, she's got 4-wheel-drive, it should stop her 2 ton vehicle |
| 17:47.21 | herlo | I mean, reall! |
| 17:47.27 | herlo | s/l!/ly!/ |
| 17:48.41 | carmony | I know! Since 4-wheel-drive is named for its stopping ability and not its "driving" abilities. |
| 18:19.22 | herlo | lol |
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| 18:40.54 | mindjuju | anybody looking for a job? |
| 18:41.03 | cro | what kind of job? |
| 18:41.21 | beandog | babysitting |
| 18:41.24 | mindjuju | fbi job! ah yeah! just call me fox mulder - http://www.fbijobs.gov/ |
| 18:41.33 | mindjuju | FBI MEGA HIRING TO FILL OVER 2100 PROFESSIONAL STAFF POSITIONS! UPDATES WILL BE ADDED DAILY THROUGH JANUARY 5, 2009. QUALIFIED PROFESSIONAL STAFF CANDIDATES WILL BE CONTACTED TO PARTICIPATE IN A CAREER INVITATIONAL. ADDITIONALLY, THE FBI MUST HIRE 850 SPECIAL AGENTS. |
| 18:41.42 | mindjuju | i'm seriously going to apply |
| 18:41.48 | beandog | ~spam mindjuju |
| 18:41.48 | jbot | ACTION subscribes mindjuju to every possible mailing list he can find on the 'net AND arranges for mindjuju to get at least 50 snail mail spams a day |
| 18:41.55 | mindjuju | hey,the caps was all them |
| 18:42.03 | mindjuju | if you go to that page, you'll see the caps |
| 18:42.30 | beandog | rickroll! |
| 18:42.41 | mindjuju | it's not a rickroll |
| 18:42.47 | beandog | ;) |
| 18:43.28 | beandog | ew |
| 18:43.50 | mindjuju | any ways, there are IT positions |
| 18:44.02 | mindjuju | but i'm applying for the X files righ tnow |
| 18:44.08 | beandog | Thank you for your interest in the FBI positions, we are expanding the capacity of our servers and expect them to be available soon. |
| 18:44.08 | beandog | Please check back after 3pm. |
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| 18:48.14 | beandog | anyone wanna go to lunch in SLC |
| 18:48.40 | carmony | I would, but I'm in Ogden :P |
| 18:48.43 | mindjuju | i might if its himalayan kitchen |
| 18:49.49 | beandog | mindjuju, Im all american |
| 18:58.25 | mindjuju | zoinks! i might just have to download itunes now! DRM FREE cheap music! - http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/06/itunes-going-primarily-drm-free/ |
| 18:59.21 | DexterTheDragon | meh amazon's been drm free for months |
| 18:59.28 | DexterTheDragon | and it works on linux |
| 18:59.53 | mindjuju | i wonder if amazon has dj baby anne though |
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| 19:25.09 | SunSparc | Good for you |
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| 19:37.16 | carmony | Just documented an object with 48 members and 12 methods :P |
| 19:46.13 | SunSparc | http://www.apple.com/macbookpro/ |
| 19:46.20 | SunSparc | 8 hour battery life, nice! |
| 19:47.53 | carmony | Glossy Screen, bad! |
| 19:48.04 | wps | matte optional |
| 19:48.09 | carmony | :O |
| 19:48.11 | wps | errâ¦Â "anti-glar" |
| 19:48.15 | wps | errâ¦Â "anti-glare" |
| 19:56.14 | kingsol | hey guys... sorry to jump in on the apple talk (sorry wps) is there an "easy way" to something similar to this: "LEFT JOIN dim_people p on p.peo_id=(CASE WHEN LEN(cm.contactid)>0 THEN cm.contactid ELSE cm.leadid)" |
| 19:56.31 | kingsol | the above ofcourse is not working |
| 19:56.59 | kingsol | forgot to add the END CASE in the text |
| 20:01.35 | mindjuju | k, are you trying to case a join? |
| 20:01.44 | mindjuju | as in join on this if something, else join on that? |
| 20:02.18 | mindjuju | and what database (and version) are you using? |
| 20:22.46 | eggyknap | kingsol: you'll probably need to join the table twice (once on p.peo_id = cm.contactid and once on cm.leadid), and do some filtering in your where clause |
| 20:29.00 | beandog | DexterTheDragon, amazon++ |
| 20:47.11 | kingsol | mindjuju sorry... had to step away, yes trying to case join, I only want one record per row on dim_people, but may need to join two one of two fields. |
| 20:48.12 | kingsol | unfortunately, I am using MSSQL in this case, building a cube. |
| 20:50.42 | kingsol | wow, I am lame... I forgot the end in the case clause in the query as well, when I added it, it worked, slow as garbage, but it pulled the right data. |
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| 21:32.23 | cycokilr | any good XML tutorials around? |
| 21:32.44 | mindjuju | w3school has some primers |
| 21:32.50 | mindjuju | anything special you looking for? |
| 21:33.06 | cycokilr | nah.. kind of a basic intro for a buddy of mine.. |
| 21:33.22 | cycokilr | i did send him some w3schools links |
| 21:34.28 | tierra | usually it's not about the syntax itself as it's about learning a new XML API in whatever language you're writing in, but I guess there are some basic concepts one should know if they're designing a new XML structure |
| 21:35.29 | cycokilr | yeah and he really needs an understanding of the basics.. so far he only knows what XML is short for.. |
| 21:36.11 | mindjuju | in that case, i'd prolly send him to wikipedia too |
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| 21:36.30 | beandog | docbook has some great docs |
| 21:36.33 | beandog | that's a good starter |
| 21:36.39 | mindjuju | what's docbook |
| 21:36.48 | beandog | uh |
| 21:36.59 | beandog | whats a good way to explain it. |
| 21:37.15 | DexterTheDragon | xml for writing books |
| 21:37.19 | beandog | yah |
| 21:37.27 | beandog | http://scriptures.nephi.org/docbook/bom/c6.html |
| 21:37.33 | beandog | mindjuju, thats a docbook export to HTML |
| 21:38.53 | DexterTheDragon | mindjuju: also, have you heard of the book of mormon? :D |
| 21:38.54 | mindjuju | ah |
| 21:39.15 | beandog | you write it in XML (docbook format) |
| 21:39.25 | beandog | and you can export to txt, pdf, html, xhtml, all kindsa stuff |
| 21:39.27 | beandog | very nice. |
| 21:39.33 | mindjuju | looks cool - http://www.docbook.org/whatis |
| 21:52.10 | _psychic_ | there are lots of XSTL transforms you can run to get from docbook to HTML, PDF, CHM, etc. |
| 21:52.34 | beandog | and LOLspeak |
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| 22:05.37 | thebigdog | there are also other tools out there that are similar to docbook as well |
| 22:06.59 | thebigdog | i have used aurigadoc as well |
| 22:07.15 | wps | how do you spell the word "cooberate" |
| 22:07.22 | wps | as in he cooberated her story |
| 22:08.29 | thebigdog | corroborate |
| 22:08.33 | Utah_Dave | wps: corroborate |
| 22:08.34 | wps | ahhhh |
| 22:08.36 | wps | thank you |
| 22:08.38 | Utah_Dave | oops, too late |
| 22:08.40 | wps | been driving me nuts |
| 22:09.46 | carmony | lol, wps, sounds like you have my spelling abilities :P |
| 22:10.09 | thebigdog | try saying the work 3x |
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| 22:37.26 | carmony | wow, Weezer is awesome for doing this: http://music.todaysbigthing.com/2008/12/31 |
| 22:40.13 | mindjuju | did ya'll see that PHP job posting for lindon, sounds fun |
| 22:41.33 | wps | strangeâ¦Â I never received a copy |
| 22:41.50 | mindjuju | i'm not on the mailing list, but check the site from time to toime |
| 22:42.08 | mindjuju | any company that makes a Nap reference in their job posting sounds like fun to me |
| 22:42.27 | beandog | Im taking a nap right now |
| 22:42.48 | mindjuju | :) not Nap as in nap, but Nap as in Napoleon Dynamite |
| 22:42.57 | beandog | oh |
| 22:43.07 | mindjuju | too funny |
| 22:44.13 | _psychic_ | ? |
| 22:44.53 | orsonj | ah, yes, that posting |
| 22:45.50 | mindjuju | _psychic_ - http://uphpu.org/pipermail/uphpu-jobs/2009-January/000268.html |
| 22:46.36 | beandog | whats GTD |
| 22:46.40 | _psychic_ | getting things done |
| 22:46.44 | Utah_Dave | carmony: my favorite part of that video is: "All your pork and bean are belong to us!" |
| 22:49.00 | _psychic_ | It just always leaves me with the impression iwantiwantiwantiwant |
| 22:50.09 | beandog | _psychic_, what in the world are you talking about |
| 22:50.22 | _psychic_ | job offers with no compensation details |
| 22:50.35 | _psychic_ | we want skills, we want productivity, we want blah |
| 22:50.40 | orsonj | yeah, that was weird |
| 22:50.41 | _psychic_ | but when it comes to what *you* want |
| 22:50.48 | beandog | oh, gotcha. |
| 22:51.47 | beandog | lots of candy |
| 22:51.57 | Utah_Dave | _psychic_: I agree with you on that. They don't even give you the courtesy of letting you know what salary range they're looking to pay |
| 22:52.06 | beandog | man, I hate how the closest food joint is Subway. What a total crock. |
| 22:52.10 | _psychic_ | To me it betrays the position of the employer |
| 22:52.13 | Utah_Dave | yep |
| 22:52.49 | Utah_Dave | It's kind of funny how almost all the job offers that come through basically sound the same, but some only want to pay $15/hr and others $80,000 a year |
| 22:53.11 | _psychic_ | or they don't post a range or figure because they want someone who's awesome who doesn't know how much they're worth |
| 22:53.12 | _psychic_ | lame. |
| 22:59.28 | thebigdog | i personally like handholding |
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| 23:02.53 | unum | I can really decide if I'm interested in a job until how I know how it pays compared to my current one |
| 23:03.57 | thebigdog | i always need that on a new job |
| 23:04.46 | _psychic_ | I thought you meant in general |
| 23:04.55 | thebigdog | well that too |
| 23:05.00 | _psychic_ | I mean, I really like to hold hands, just not on the job |
| 23:05.18 | thebigdog | yeah |
| 23:08.45 | orsonj | the reverse would look interesting http://rafb.net/p/OMvqRw69.html |
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| 23:20.34 | PoeticIntensity | that's awesome, orsonj |
| 23:20.58 | thebigdog | orsonj, that is pretty cool |
| 23:22.24 | beandog | rawr |
| 23:22.25 | beandog | ie-- |
| 23:26.03 | orsonj | so, if any of you know of such a job, let me know. |
| 23:26.56 | SunSparc | ~ie-- |
| 23:27.03 | SunSparc | ~karma ie |
| 23:27.03 | jbot | ie has karma of -5 |
| 23:27.20 | beandog | heh |
| 23:27.31 | orsonj | ~ie-- |
| 23:27.34 | orsonj | just for good measure |
| 23:28.25 | SunSparc | :) |
| 23:28.34 | SunSparc | ~karma chrome |
| 23:28.34 | jbot | chrome has neutral karma |
| 23:28.38 | beandog | freak this thing is light |
| 23:28.49 | SunSparc | ~karma firefox |
| 23:28.49 | jbot | firefox has karma of -1 |
| 23:28.55 | SunSparc | ~firefox++ |
| 23:29.02 | SunSparc | ~karma safari |
| 23:29.02 | jbot | safari has neutral karma |
| 23:29.08 | SunSparc | ~safari++ |
| 23:29.10 | SunSparc | :) |
| 23:29.23 | orsonj | chrome feels like a go-cart built with a large engine |
| 23:30.16 | beandog | yah |
| 23:30.23 | beandog | thats a pretty accurate description |
| 23:32.19 | thebigdog | i am wondering how the linux version will be |
| 23:32.32 | beandog | crap its screwing up my CSS |
| 23:32.33 | beandog | rargh |
| 23:33.04 | beandog | it is zippy though |
| 23:33.55 | SunSparc | How does it do on acid2 and acid3? |
| 23:33.59 | thebigdog | i have been using galeon a lot lately and really like it |
| 23:34.35 | orsonj | I kindof like midori for testing sites using webkit |
| 23:34.42 | orsonj | (in linux) |
| 23:34.47 | SunSparc | thebigdog: That is the gnome browser, correct? I played with that briefly when I was playing with SUSE |
| 23:34.49 | beandog | passes acid2 |
| 23:35.18 | thebigdog | SunSparc, yeah it is gnome based on mozilla |
| 23:35.21 | orsonj | It is firefox lite |
| 23:35.21 | beandog | acid3 79/100 |
| 23:35.56 | SunSparc | beandog: Not bad at all. |
| 23:36.48 | thebigdog | i use 5 browsers on linux: ff3, galeon, konqueror, opera and links |
| 23:37.46 | orsonj | holy crumb! midori passes acid3 (straight out of the ubuntu 8.10 box) |
| 23:39.38 | orsonj | outside of rendering though, it is a bit clunky. |
| 23:39.41 | beandog | ff2 ftw |
| 23:40.01 | thebigdog | oh and i love ie6 |
| 23:40.05 | beandog | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acid3 |
| 23:40.05 | thebigdog | on linux |
| 23:40.08 | beandog | hey, they dont even test IE |
| 23:40.33 | thebigdog | ie8 ftw |
| 23:40.34 | SunSparc | heh, yeah, why bother. |
| 23:40.39 | beandog | ie6 = 5/100 |
| 23:40.40 | beandog | woots! |
| 23:40.44 | beandog | oh wait its still going |
| 23:40.45 | beandog | 12 |
| 23:41.03 | thebigdog | ff3 under wine rocks |
| 23:41.22 | *** part/#uphpu kingsol (n=kingsol@64.0.193.254) |
| 23:41.24 | SunSparc | 12/100? Why am I not surprised. |
| 23:41.30 | beandog | ff3 does 71 |
| 23:41.40 | beandog | chrome wins! |
| 23:41.40 | beandog | whee |
| 23:46.16 | orsonj | ff3 under wine seems redundant |
| 23:46.44 | thebigdog | hehe |
| 23:46.50 | thebigdog | but it does run very different |
| 23:46.56 | beandog | hmm |
| 23:46.56 | thebigdog | ff3 windows vs ff3 linux |
| 23:47.02 | beandog | I just found out we have a ping pong table |
| 23:48.28 | orsonj | not quite as redundant as ff3 under wine compiled with cygwin |