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| 15:43.55 | carmony | good morning |
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| 15:46.46 | jsmith | Morning carmony |
| 15:46.50 | jsmith | Morning all! |
| 15:55.06 | herlo | hello to you all |
| 15:55.22 | Utah_Dave | morning! |
| 15:55.39 | herlo | Utah_Dave: how's the new G1? |
| 15:55.40 | Utah_Dave | PoeticIntensity: Shane says hi |
| 15:55.44 | Utah_Dave | herlo: loving it! |
| 15:55.57 | herlo | Utah_Dave: I'm looking into getting one soon |
| 15:56.09 | herlo | probably not until after the 1st of Feb though...:( |
| 15:56.36 | Utah_Dave | It's a good phone. I really like how open the OS is. |
| 15:56.41 | PoeticIntensity | heh... Tell Shane "hi" from me, Utah_Dave |
| 15:56.52 | herlo | have you developed anything for it? |
| 15:57.30 | Utah_Dave | herlo: Not yet. I'm still wading my way into Java |
| 15:57.59 | herlo | Java! yucky |
| 15:58.48 | Utah_Dave | yeah, that's the main drawback. |
| 15:59.00 | Utah_Dave | Android is written in Java |
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| 16:05.27 | carmony | There are worse things than Java :P |
| 16:12.20 | Utah_Dave | yeah, it's not so bad. |
| 16:12.42 | Utah_Dave | I just wish they had the option to write apps in Python or something |
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| 16:49.25 | carmony | Yeah, that would be nice |
| 16:52.06 | mindjuju | if you don't know what a bot fly is, what this - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23eimVLAQ2c |
| 16:52.10 | mgeary | no |
| 16:52.13 | mgeary | don't watch it |
| 16:52.23 | mindjuju | mgeary knows |
| 16:52.24 | mgeary | bot fly videos are categorically disgusting |
| 16:52.49 | DexterTheDragon | oh the temptation to click |
| 16:53.27 | mindjuju | dexterthedragon, it's bad, i'll be honest |
| 16:53.33 | _psychic_ | apparently the proper treatment for the bite is a duct tape dressing :/ |
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| 16:53.49 | mindjuju | duct tape is just to cut off air or something |
| 16:54.43 | carmony | uggg |
| 16:54.45 | carmony | sick! |
| 16:54.48 | carmony | dang it |
| 16:54.54 | mgeary | you watched it, didn't you? |
| 16:54.56 | mgeary | i warned you |
| 16:54.59 | DexterTheDragon | wow that sucker was huge |
| 16:55.05 | mindjuju | anyways, don't really like c# |
| 16:55.05 | mgeary | please stop talking about it |
| 16:55.48 | mindjuju | :) -- poor mgeary |
| 16:56.31 | carmony | http://xkcd.com/526/ |
| 16:56.33 | carmony | hehehe |
| 17:00.29 | _psychic_ | RP > DK |
| 17:00.52 | mgeary | Ron Paul is better than Diane Keaton? |
| 17:01.11 | _psychic_ | Dennis Kucinich |
| 17:01.18 | _psychic_ | as per the provided tables |
| 17:01.22 | mgeary | ah |
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| 17:18.03 | thebigdog | morning all |
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| 17:18.50 | carmony | morning thebigdog :) |
| 17:19.02 | thebigdog | it is hard going back to work |
| 17:22.13 | carmony | lol, I know teh feeling |
| 17:22.19 | carmony | went on a snowmobile trip for 4 days |
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| 17:22.24 | carmony | zero cell reception |
| 17:22.28 | carmony | no internet |
| 17:22.33 | itimber | morning guys |
| 17:22.34 | carmony | was heaven being disconnected :) |
| 17:22.38 | carmony | morning itimber |
| 17:25.12 | _psychic_ | I get to the point where I really want to get back to work though |
| 17:29.29 | mindjuju | yeah, i start to get brain atrophy after a few days |
| 17:33.30 | carmony | Where do you guys work? My last job I got 2 days off, and we were busy as well :P |
| 17:33.36 | carmony | for the holiday season |
| 17:33.52 | _psychic_ | Rain |
| 17:34.17 | _psychic_ | last day was the 23rd, first day on was today. |
| 17:35.33 | carmony | lol, I was driving to Evanston, going in and out of cell reception, when I get a call with a big bug that was introduced that day. Try to walk through an iPhone developer on how to fix it over the phone while driving was interesting |
| 17:35.35 | mindjuju | _psychic_ you had nearly 2 weeks off? |
| 17:35.46 | _psychic_ | yeah |
| 17:35.50 | _psychic_ | may not always happen |
| 17:35.56 | _psychic_ | but we make year-end goals |
| 17:36.01 | _psychic_ | if we meet them, we take extra time off |
| 17:36.04 | _psychic_ | (paid) |
| 17:36.22 | mindjuju | here again today |
| 17:36.30 | _psychic_ | Rain is a great place to work :) |
| 17:36.32 | mindjuju | that's FREAKIN' awesome |
| 17:36.33 | _psychic_ | (and not work) |
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| 17:47.27 | SunSparc | Hi all!!! |
| 17:47.32 | SunSparc | Happy New Year! |
| 17:47.51 | carmony | Happy new year SunSparc :) |
| 17:48.14 | SunSparc | :) |
| 17:48.22 | SunSparc | Wow, I just had a long holiday. |
| 17:48.56 | SunSparc | 12 days of no work. So nice. |
| 17:49.27 | cro | Happy New Year!!! |
| 17:49.37 | cro | wow, feels like I haven't been here in ages. |
| 17:49.50 | SunSparc | No kidding. |
| 17:49.54 | SunSparc | I can hardly believe it is 2009. |
| 17:50.01 | SunSparc | Where did 2008 even go? |
| 17:51.04 | cro | Ours was wiped out by relocating to Utah |
| 17:52.04 | SunSparc | Well, I hope it has been a good move for you. |
| 17:52.12 | cro | awesome |
| 17:52.25 | cro | I'm the director of the SLC chapter of http://hopekids.org |
| 17:53.34 | cro | we moved here just to do that. |
| 17:53.43 | SunSparc | That is cool. How is hopekids doing? |
| 17:54.15 | cro | really well, thanks for asking. We have 75+ families enrolled now, and have a calendar full of events for them for the next 6 months. |
| 17:54.33 | cro | If you know anyone that has a child with cancer, or another life-threatening medical condition, please send them my way |
| 17:54.41 | cro | everything we do for them is free |
| 17:55.17 | SunSparc | What kind of events? |
| 17:56.28 | cro | we do movies, sporting events when we can get tickets, things like Classic Fun Center (for birthday bashes, we have one each quarter), we're planning an outdoor festival for early summer. Our Christmas party was awesome, we did it at the Mayan, had Santa--stuff like that |
| 17:57.35 | cro | the real power is in the relationships the parents and kids build with each other, though. It's amazing to be around other parents who have kids with cancer, or CF, or CHDs. We have created a really special community. |
| 17:58.05 | SunSparc | That is awesome! Good for you cro. |
| 17:58.10 | cro | thanks |
| 17:58.17 | cro | it's a lot of fun :-) |
| 17:58.26 | _psychic_ | There's a young girl in my neighborhood with a brain tumor. :( |
| 17:59.02 | SunSparc | _psychic_: I coached her brother in soccer. She has a great family. |
| 17:59.13 | _psychic_ | nice |
| 17:59.17 | _psychic_ | yeah they're great |
| 17:59.23 | cro | my daughter had a brain tumor, that's a really tough diagnosis because there is so little they can do, and not a lot of research goes toward pediatric brain tumors since they are like 1% of all childhood cancers. |
| 17:59.31 | SunSparc | It is amazing to see how they and she are handling it. |
| 18:00.15 | cro | _psychic_: ship them my link, it's really easy for them to get started, just click on "Become a HopeKid" on our site. |
| 18:00.41 | cro | no obligation for them at all, they can come to as many or as few events as they want to. |
| 18:01.01 | _psychic_ | will do |
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| 18:05.39 | mgeary | cro: where does the funding come from? |
| 18:06.37 | cro | mgeary: we are donor funded, mostly out of Phoenix, though we are seeking interested parties here. Our goal is to establish our value to the community before we really do any fundraising here. |
| 18:07.40 | mgeary | cool |
| 18:08.59 | SunSparc | cro: One immediate value would be the money going right back into the community through the purchase of event tickets, etc. Right? |
| 18:09.29 | SunSparc | Although, you could probably get venues to donate services as well. |
| 18:09.50 | cro | SunSparc: Yes, if we purchased the tickets, often they are donated. |
| 18:13.30 | cro | Snow just started... |
| 18:15.56 | SunSparc | It is too cold for more snow. I still have ice canyons in my road. Driving down my street is a bumpy ride. |
| 18:39.47 | thebigdog | i had my neighbors car slide down his driveway last night into the road |
| 18:40.22 | carmony | parked? |
| 18:41.07 | SunSparc | yikes! |
| 18:41.24 | SunSparc | At least my driveway is mostly cleared of snow. |
| 18:42.35 | carmony | My car slide like that one day at my old job :P my co-worker comes in "Okay, who is the ass-wipe who can't park?" I look out, and say "I didn't leave it there." The Emergancy break was on and everything, it jsut slipd. |
| 18:47.13 | SunSparc | That is scary. |
| 18:52.27 | thebigdog | yeah it was pretty funny |
| 18:55.06 | SunSparc | Good jorb carmony! |
| 18:56.28 | carmony | just an fyi, if anyone is in need of a PHP Developer on a contract basis with good experience, I'm in the market again :) |
| 18:57.49 | SunSparc | I know of two people who were looking to fill positions, but I don't think they were interested in contractors or companies. |
| 18:59.06 | carmony | yeah, I just had a major client of mine scale back their development timeline (in half!) to save on monthly expenses. So now I have about an extra 20 hours a week now empty on my calendar. :P |
| 19:00.01 | SunSparc | Lame |
| 19:00.42 | carmony | I just feel bummed since I've been turning down work the last 3-4 months cause I was busy |
| 19:01.18 | SunSparc | Quick, call them all back! |
| 19:01.39 | unum | SunSparc: you know of two companies that are looking for full time php developers? |
| 19:01.53 | SunSparc | Yep, why, you in the market? |
| 19:02.06 | carmony | I've sent emails, but they either haven't gotten back to me |
| 19:02.20 | carmony | or they said they've started work with someone else |
| 19:02.50 | unum | SunSparc: I always have my eyes open, which valley? |
| 19:03.11 | SunSparc | unum: Not sure... |
| 19:03.35 | unum | I'm pretty happy here now. it's just I feel like I should be making more |
| 19:03.41 | SunSparc | They were through my LinkedIn list, which is all over, but I think they were both in Utah at least. |
| 19:04.10 | SunSparc | Well, I could send them your way, if you want. |
| 19:04.16 | SunSparc | Are you on LinkedIn? |
| 19:05.06 | unum | ya I am |
| 19:06.29 | unum | unum@unum5.org is my email on there |
| 19:06.58 | SunSparc | Holy moly! UPHPU has 142 members on LinkedIn. |
| 19:08.34 | carmony | does it really? |
| 19:09.03 | SunSparc | Yes |
| 19:09.08 | SunSparc | Crazy |
| 19:09.11 | SunSparc | Where is everyone? |
| 19:09.11 | _psychic_ | we have a lot of lurkers |
| 19:09.17 | _psychic_ | I lurked for quite a while |
| 19:09.17 | SunSparc | Apparently. |
| 19:09.36 | _psychic_ | I also think the organization name is larger than it can handle too. |
| 19:09.41 | SunSparc | Lurkers... sounds so eery. |
| 19:10.01 | carmony | what do you mean _psychic_ ? |
| 19:10.24 | _psychic_ | Someone in St. George could sign up but not really be a part of the active group. |
| 19:10.39 | _psychic_ | It's more like northern utah php, imo. |
| 19:10.48 | _psychic_ | Maybe even salt lake county php. |
| 19:11.10 | mindjuju | or people like jsmith who used to be utah residents, but now find themselves in happier abodes |
| 19:11.24 | _psychic_ | true |
| 19:11.58 | jsmith | true, that! |
| 19:15.13 | carmony | yeah, all the meetings are in SLC, us Ogden peeps have to drive a lot farther! |
| 19:18.48 | carmony | lol |
| 19:19.10 | SunSparc | :) |
| 19:19.26 | carmony | It would be cool if we could have an online webinar |
| 19:21.01 | SunSparc | http://www.livehuddle.com/ |
| 19:24.09 | carmony | That would be really cool |
| 19:25.07 | SunSparc | I worked on the livehuddle project. Cool stuff. |
| 19:26.56 | carmony | lol, could we get to use it once a month for free? ;) |
| 19:28.26 | mgeary | amen |
| 19:29.07 | unum | the owner just came in and offered two tickets to any employee that wanted them.... |
| 19:29.38 | mgeary | my suspicion is that watching pro sports indicates a deficiency in your personal life ;) |
| 19:31.06 | unum | I do watch goalball, but only when my really good friend is playing |
| 19:33.47 | mindjuju | watching pro sports = deficiency? surely that doesn't include foxy boxing or extreme ironing |
| 19:38.50 | carmony | Hey, I enjoy many pro sports :) Now, I don't follow them religiously |
| 19:40.43 | mgeary | hey, i'm just sayin' |
| 19:40.46 | jsmith | mindjuju: What about hockey? Can I get away with watching that? |
| 19:40.57 | mgeary | jsmith: i think you meant to address that to me |
| 19:41.18 | jsmith | mgeary: Naw... it was more of a commentary on mindjuju's 'foxy boxing' and 'extreme ironing' |
| 19:41.22 | mgeary | aha |
| 19:41.52 | mindjuju | jsmith, i think hockey is all good |
| 19:42.00 | jsmith | mindjuju: I knew you'd see it my way |
| 19:42.08 | mindjuju | you should ask mgeary if hockey watching == deficient |
| 19:42.22 | jsmith | mindjuju: BTW, need anything from Virginia? |
| 19:42.32 | mgeary | hey, it's just my suspicion |
| 19:42.58 | mindjuju | @jsmith - yeah a cool shirt |
| 19:43.19 | jsmith | mindjuju: One that says "Virginia is for lovers"? |
| 19:43.25 | mindjuju | hey, that'd work! |
| 19:43.44 | jsmith | mindjuju: Problem is, my layover in SLC is only like 30 minutes... |
| 19:43.57 | mindjuju | are you flying through the SLC? |
| 19:44.00 | mindjuju | coool! |
| 19:44.32 | mindjuju | course though, it's prolly not worth leavign the security gates, eating for 2 minutes then spendign 28 minutes going through security to get back on plane |
| 19:46.49 | carmony | unless you get laid over in SLC like I did for 8 hours :P |
| 19:50.30 | jsmith | mindjuju: Unless, of course, you know how to get through security quickly by going over to the international terminal :-p |
| 19:50.59 | carmony | really? |
| 19:57.25 | jsmith | Yeah... |
| 19:57.37 | jsmith | It's only open certain hours of the day... but when it is, it's super-fast |
| 19:57.45 | jsmith | (never more than one or two people in line) |
| 20:13.34 | unum | does anyone here have experience with online backup services |
| 20:16.04 | unum | have you been bitten by it? |
| 20:16.48 | _psychic_ | I tried and failed with mozy |
| 20:17.11 | SunSparc | Mozy is much better since you left it _psychic_, you should give it another chance. |
| 20:17.19 | _psychic_ | no thanks |
| 20:17.27 | _psychic_ | super happy with my Time Machine setup |
| 20:18.05 | SunSparc | Me too. I just use Mozy as a tertiary backup. |
| 20:18.32 | _psychic_ | I had a really bad experience with them - both as a user, and from a cust rep point of view. |
| 20:20.21 | DexterTheDragon | isn't there a store around here that sales referbished macs? |
| 20:20.27 | DexterTheDragon | (not the apple store) |
| 20:20.29 | _psychic_ | simply mac? |
| 20:20.30 | SunSparc | Yeah, been there. Got some money credited back to me. |
| 20:20.41 | unum | I'm looking for a place to store the data not the tool to run the backups |
| 20:20.46 | SunSparc | DexterTheDragon: KSL classifieds. |
| 20:20.51 | DexterTheDragon | well apple stuff |
| 20:21.02 | unum | government surplus :) |
| 20:21.03 | DexterTheDragon | SunSparc: something a little more gauranteed |
| 20:21.06 | _psychic_ | unum: S3 ;) |
| 20:21.07 | SunSparc | Got me a nice iMac from the classifieds. |
| 20:21.15 | SunSparc | Came with AppleCare still on it. |
| 20:21.42 | SunSparc | DexterTheDragon: AppleCare goes with the machines, so if you find one with AppleCare you are set. |
| 20:23.03 | DexterTheDragon | yeah I just thought there was also a store around here that sold apple stuff |
| 20:24.06 | _psychic_ | DexterTheDragon: simply mac |
| 20:24.11 | _psychic_ | university mall |
| 20:24.13 | fungus | DexterTheDragon: MacDocs |
| 20:24.24 | fungus | State Street, around 13th south |
| 20:24.38 | DexterTheDragon | macdocs. that was the one I was thinking about |
| 20:24.44 | DexterTheDragon | thanks fungus |
| 20:25.03 | DexterTheDragon | thanks also _psychic_ , I'll recomend it too |
| 20:25.06 | fungus | FYI there is a new Simply Mac in Fort Union near Target |
| 20:26.02 | cro | DexterTheDragon: New macs due at MacWorld tomorrow, should be able to get good deals on the old ones, esp. at Amazon |
| 20:27.15 | mgeary | MacDocs moved |
| 20:27.21 | mgeary | they got broken into and robbed |
| 20:27.24 | unum | has anyone used s3? |
| 20:27.26 | mgeary | so they shut down during a relocation |
| 20:27.30 | SunSparc | mgeary: Where did they move to? |
| 20:27.34 | mgeary | i think they're back up now, but i can't remember where |
| 20:27.39 | DexterTheDragon | this is their last macworld |
| 20:27.44 | mgeary | ah |
| 20:27.45 | mgeary | American Fork |
| 20:27.55 | mgeary | 945 WEST 500 NORTH, SUITE 100 - AMERICAN FORK, UT 84003 |
| 20:28.09 | SunSparc | That is too bad, I like MacDocs. Glad they are back up. |
| 20:28.16 | mgeary | yeah |
| 20:28.20 | mgeary | i like them more than Simply Mac |
| 20:28.27 | mgeary | more nerd-friendly |
| 20:28.34 | mgeary | though i have had some good experiences with SimplyMac |
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| 20:31.07 | DexterTheDragon | it will continue but only have 17 attendees |
| 20:32.52 | carmony | Are there any non-apple supported conferences? |
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| 20:55.32 | SunSparc | ninjas would totally beat pirates |
| 20:56.17 | carmony | amen |
| 20:56.51 | SunSparc | The pirates would not even know what hit them. |
| 20:57.12 | SunSparc | Why do you think you never hear of pirate stories from the Orient? ;) |
| 20:57.55 | jsmith | SunSparc: Good point. |
| 20:58.06 | SunSparc | heh |
| 20:58.28 | carmony | lol |
| 20:59.04 | SunSparc | lol |
| 20:59.32 | jsmith | The problem is... pirates make for better movie plots. |
| 20:59.39 | _psychic_ | Pirates do have guns. That's got to give them an edge. |
| 20:59.44 | SunSparc | Yep, I enjoy a good pirate movie. |
| 20:59.50 | jsmith | I mean, you never hear of "Ninjas of the Carribean" or "Space Ninjas" |
| 21:00.02 | SunSparc | LOL |
| 21:00.39 | SunSparc | The movies are probably as discrete as the ninjas. |
| 21:03.05 | carmony | http://www.theonion.com/content/video/ninja_parade_slips_through_town |
| 21:06.11 | SunSparc | ROFL!!! |
| 21:06.18 | SunSparc | Good on carmony |
| 21:42.22 | josephscott | carmony: makes it even better, I grew up in Modesto, Californa |
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| 22:14.29 | Utah_Dave | josephscott: I think I saw you watching the parade! |
| 22:15.13 | josephscott | Utah_Dave: I could tell you if I was in the parade, but then I'd have to kill you |
| 22:15.39 | cro | he was the one ninja flying over the telephone pole at the end of the clip |
| 22:18.45 | beandog | http://www.archive.org/details/trouble_with_women |
| 22:31.04 | mindjuju | anybody know of a RTE that exports out to XML? |
| 23:20.31 | thebigdog | mindjuju, you could write one |
| 23:20.57 | beandog | whats an rte |
| 23:24.14 | orsonj | rich text editor ?? |
| 23:24.56 | thebigdog | yeah |
| 23:33.59 | *** join/#uphpu SunSparc_ (n=sparky@173.8.91.177) |