| 00:11.29 | herlo | take.... |
| 00:11.39 | herlo | ...luck |
| 00:11.55 | herlo | and care |
| 00:11.59 | herlo | good ones! |
| 00:12.44 | mindjuju | :) |
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| 00:26.58 | mindjuju | jsmith, out of curiosity, do you do much with sms? |
| 00:27.20 | mindjuju | was signing up with a bulk sms gateway, but then had the thought that perhaps there was an OSS available |
| 00:27.52 | jsmith | mindjuju: Not really... why? |
| 00:27.55 | jsmith | mindjuju: I have a friend who does, however. Anything you'd like me to ask him? |
| 00:28.30 | jsmith | mindjuju: As far as I know, you have to go through a gateway that has a connection with the telcos. No way to say, run your own SMS server easily. |
| 00:28.42 | mindjuju | ah, gotcha, that's what i thought |
| 00:28.48 | mindjuju | i signed up with clickatell |
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| 00:35.24 | mindjuju | fungus! |
| 00:35.47 | mindjuju | sup bro |
| 00:36.16 | fungus | Long day |
| 00:36.24 | mindjuju | sorry to hear it |
| 00:36.26 | fungus | Office LAN party all day |
| 00:36.31 | fungus | :) |
| 00:36.32 | mindjuju | oh you dog |
| 00:36.35 | mindjuju | i'm jealous |
| 00:37.17 | fungus | Yeah, was pretty cool, but had to boot into Windows all day long. :( |
| 00:39.01 | fungus | That is sometimes fun, depending on the hardware/desired configuration |
| 00:39.13 | mindjuju | yeah, true that |
| 00:39.23 | mindjuju | i've gotten used to reinstalling winders every 18 months |
| 00:39.44 | jsmith | Of course, this laptop never has had windows on it, and never will |
| 00:39.54 | fungus | I had to install Winders on a second drive for my game day today. |
| 00:40.07 | mindjuju | what games did ya'll play? |
| 00:40.14 | fungus | FEAR mostly |
| 00:40.17 | thebigdog | mindjuju, there is an open sms gateway you can use called kannel |
| 00:40.33 | thebigdog | but you still need hooked up to the big boys |
| 00:40.58 | thebigdog | meaning an sms center |
| 00:41.23 | mindjuju | i was just looking at kannel |
| 00:41.29 | mindjuju | you also have to compile it |
| 00:41.31 | mindjuju | scary |
| 00:42.21 | thebigdog | hehe |
| 00:42.25 | thebigdog | well it is not that bad |
| 00:42.37 | mindjuju | i might be there in a few monts at the rate i'm going |
| 00:42.51 | mindjuju | but at this time, i'm still just plugging away at the consoel and getting familiar with bash |
| 00:43.01 | thebigdog | hehe |
| 00:43.05 | thebigdog | good luck on that |
| 00:47.38 | carmony | well, anyone here know of any good places to look to pick up some extra work for PHP? |
| 00:49.42 | mindjuju | guru.com is one that thebigdog recommended a few days go |
| 00:52.16 | mindjuju | sorry to hear that you had cutbacks carmony |
| 00:52.57 | mindjuju | but as my good friend macnewbold once taught, showing your clients immediate ROI will often pay for future projects |
| 00:53.17 | mindjuju | he's got good story of client where he saved them truckloads of money and that savings turned into future projects with that same firm |
| 00:53.58 | mindjuju | 3 golden words for employers or business owners that they like to hear |
| 00:54.03 | mindjuju | new revenue stream |
| 00:54.30 | mindjuju | (hence my working after hours on an SMS gateway), though i dare not say more on it utnil later |
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| 14:02.46 | carmony | http://xkcd.com/524/ hehehe, rick roll |
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| 16:11.24 | carmony | quiet day |
| 16:28.09 | mindjuju | i wish |
| 16:28.24 | mindjuju | i just found out we are shooting an executive today at 12:30p |
| 16:28.37 | mindjuju | got to setup the studio for 2 people, 2 camera and a whole array of lights |
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| 16:28.46 | mindjuju | and already had a full day planned |
| 16:28.58 | mgeary | heya |
| 16:29.02 | mindjuju | actually just came back in to sit for a moment and get emails |
| 16:29.06 | mindjuju | heya mgeary |
| 16:30.05 | mgeary | so, who's all around? |
| 16:30.17 | mindjuju | carmony is |
| 16:32.43 | carmony | yup :) |
| 16:32.53 | carmony | it feels later in the day cause I started my day two hours early |
| 16:32.59 | mgeary | nice |
| 16:33.57 | carmony | ToyBot? |
| 16:34.00 | mgeary | iPhone |
| 16:34.32 | carmony | lol, fun |
| 16:35.16 | mgeary | hey, how come when i ssh with "ssh -t user@host '$SHELL -i' into one of my machines my .profile script isn't being parsed? |
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| 16:37.27 | carmony | permissions to the file? |
| 16:37.33 | mgeary | no |
| 16:37.37 | mgeary | if i ssh in normally, it's fine |
| 16:37.39 | carmony | permissions always seem to bite me with everything |
| 16:37.49 | carmony | hrm, thats weird |
| 16:37.59 | mgeary | the thing is my sftp client has a handy shortcut to open a terminal on the host at the working directory |
| 16:38.00 | carmony | I'm not a shell expert, so I'm not really sure |
| 16:38.21 | mgeary | it's very handy, but it does it with the above syntax, and my aliases don't get parsed, which annoys the heck out of me |
| 16:38.57 | carmony | lol |
| 16:40.52 | macnewbold | mgeary: it's because it isn't executing as a login shell in that case - try $SHELL -l or $SHELL -li |
| 16:41.11 | mgeary | well, the thing is, i can't modify the syntax |
| 16:41.17 | mgeary | it's built into the sftp client |
| 16:41.20 | macnewbold | or you could probably get 'ssh -t user@host' to do the same thing |
| 16:41.24 | macnewbold | ah, got it |
| 16:41.50 | macnewbold | you could set up $SHELL to be "/bin/sh -l" or "/bin/tcsh -l" or whatever |
| 16:42.02 | mgeary | where would i do that? |
| 16:42.03 | macnewbold | they're not doing any escaping or anything so it should work the same |
| 16:42.15 | mgeary | on the remote machine? |
| 16:42.16 | macnewbold | in your environment, wherever you're coming from |
| 16:42.17 | mgeary | or on the local |
| 16:42.18 | mgeary | ok |
| 16:42.20 | macnewbold | local probably |
| 16:42.21 | mgeary | trying that now |
| 16:42.58 | macnewbold | until there's a shell running on the other end, there's no environment there, so it is probably your local, because that's what's telling it which shell to run |
| 16:43.02 | mgeary | is .login the right place to do that? |
| 16:43.19 | macnewbold | sure, that or your local .profile or whatever |
| 16:43.37 | macnewbold | or you can test it by running "set" or "setenv" (depending on your shell) before you do your sftp client |
| 16:45.47 | mgeary | doesn't seem to be sticking |
| 16:46.23 | mgeary | env just reports shell as /bin/bash |
| 16:46.28 | mgeary | i've tried: |
| 16:46.35 | mgeary | SHELL="/bin/bash -l" |
| 16:46.38 | mgeary | in .login |
| 16:59.58 | carmony | Anyone here own Adobe Web Premium CS4? |
| 17:00.07 | carmony | or Photoshop CS4? |
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| 17:00.45 | mgeary | i'm still on CS3 |
| 17:02.26 | carmony | me too, I was planning on getting CS4, but now since my biggest client that is 80% of my yearly budget just sliced their budget in half, I don't know if I want to upgrade now :P |
| 17:02.39 | mgeary | seriously |
| 17:02.44 | carmony | yearly revenue* |
| 17:05.58 | carmony | I don't know if the new features are worth it :P |
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| 18:42.09 | thebigdog | jsmith, you around? |
| 18:44.01 | jsmith | thebigdog: And getting 'rounder by the minute. What's up? |
| 18:44.20 | thebigdog | what is a good softphone for linux that you recommend? |
| 18:44.46 | jsmith | Zoiper is probably the best |
| 18:44.56 | jsmith | After that, I'd look at X-Lite |
| 18:47.54 | thebigdog | ty jsmith |
| 18:48.08 | mindjuju | ~jsmith+++ |
| 18:48.15 | mindjuju | thems for the other day helpin' me |
| 18:48.21 | mindjuju | ~karma jsmith |
| 18:48.21 | jbot | jsmith has karma of 13 |
| 18:48.42 | jsmith | Holy cow! I ain't all that and a bag of chips |
| 18:49.05 | mindjuju | ~karma thebigdog |
| 18:49.06 | jbot | thebigdog has karma of 10 |
| 18:49.16 | mindjuju | ~karma mindjuju |
| 18:49.17 | jbot | mindjuju has karma of 10 |
| 18:49.48 | jsmith | See, that's just no right |
| 18:49.52 | mindjuju | yeah, see at karma level 10, i can reincarnate to a win sys admin, a worm or radio shack salesman |
| 18:50.03 | jsmith | I'm nowhere near cool as mindjuju and thebigdog |
| 18:50.26 | herlo | mindjuju: I think the latter is the highest rank, closely followed by the worm |
| 18:50.53 | mindjuju | heh |
| 18:51.11 | herlo | lol |
| 18:52.32 | mindjuju | at level 13 karma though, you can opt to reincarnate to a hamster, a tandy repairman or a republican |
| 18:53.12 | carmony | lol |
| 18:55.13 | thebigdog | i would opt for the hamster |
| 18:55.39 | mindjuju | :) |
| 18:55.47 | jsmith | A republican, eh? |
| 18:56.02 | mindjuju | thought it'd be funny |
| 18:56.04 | jsmith | But then I'd have to give up my post as vice-chairman of the Radical Moderates Party! |
| 18:56.42 | mindjuju | in that case, you should opt tandy repairman |
| 19:02.26 | jsmith | How much karma does it take to be a Z80 assembly programmer? |
| 19:03.56 | mindjuju | we should really make a karma matrix |
| 19:04.00 | mindjuju | i think it'd be fun |
| 19:06.03 | thebigdog | mindjuju, have at it |
| 19:06.26 | thebigdog | ahhhhhhhhhh here we go... â03Top of the Worldâ by 03Soundtrack from 03Last of the Mohicans |
| 19:07.28 | mindjuju | what's going on? thebigdog going soft on his music selections? |
| 19:07.44 | thebigdog | just a tad |
| 19:07.54 | mindjuju | ya gone soft |
| 19:09.49 | thebigdog | i hate that gy |
| 19:09.51 | thebigdog | guy |
| 19:10.03 | mindjuju | yeah, cause you're listening to that soft stuff |
| 19:11.04 | thebigdog | man i really hate that guy though...if i want to listen to scales i would play them myself |
| 19:12.44 | mindjuju | k, true that he does some scales |
| 19:12.45 | mindjuju | a lot |
| 19:13.08 | mindjuju | but tap into this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=de4Gzf-TgqE |
| 19:13.23 | mindjuju | and right around 56 seconds is when it really gets good |
| 19:13.47 | mindjuju | yngwie is like a charburger, sure the outside is a bit smoky and crispy, but it's the WHOLE package |
| 19:15.22 | thebigdog | let me check it out |
| 19:15.46 | mindjuju | :) -- u gonna like it |
| 19:16.55 | thebigdog | like i said...lets play scales |
| 19:17.07 | mindjuju | yeah, but jump to :56 seconds |
| 19:17.13 | mindjuju | that's when he really starts going |
| 19:17.33 | thebigdog | it is still scales though |
| 19:18.40 | thebigdog | diatonic, diminished and pentatonic over and over |
| 19:19.13 | mindjuju | i think it's good and flows |
| 19:19.24 | thebigdog | all played sweeping is all |
| 19:19.28 | mindjuju | i could code to that, except for he gets a smidge zany at the end |
| 19:19.45 | mindjuju | show me some music on youtube, i'll tell ya if good |
| 19:21.50 | mindjuju | i hear good things about buckethead, but haven't heard anything i could sink my teeth into |
| 19:22.03 | thebigdog | let me show you some playing - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjbovXQVWNI |
| 19:24.29 | mindjuju | its good, but i think i need to hear a song, and not a bunch of clips |
| 19:24.35 | mindjuju | its too disconnected |
| 19:27.27 | mindjuju | whatching that vid gives you some appreciation of what the guitarist is really doing |
| 19:31.02 | carmony | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaL79cxQfmk&NR=1 |
| 19:31.59 | mindjuju | here is that link on war if you want it - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxUoTsF39IE |
| 19:38.39 | mindjuju | carmony, that kid playing is awesome! |
| 19:39.07 | carmony | I know |
| 19:39.08 | carmony | he is 12 |
| 19:39.12 | carmony | wtf is up with that!? |
| 19:39.37 | mindjuju | i could play the cymbals real good when i was 12 |
| 19:39.41 | mindjuju | oh and the cowbell too |
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| 19:39.46 | mindjuju | could play a mean cowbell |
| 19:40.49 | herlo | that's the coolest guitar hero I've ever seen |
| 19:40.57 | thebigdog | here is a really good guy - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9PIkSyA6yc |
| 19:41.14 | thebigdog | tis the season |
| 19:42.42 | mindjuju | that's pretty good thebigdog |
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| 21:25.00 | carmony | I am! :) |
| 21:25.22 | mindjuju | me too :: poor us |
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| 21:30.50 | DexterTheDragon | depends on your definition of working |
| 21:31.39 | carmony | I'm playing l4f while QA checks my stuff :p |
| 21:31.42 | mindjuju | how are things at CG? |
| 21:32.03 | DexterTheDragon | busy and crazy come to mind |
| 21:34.00 | mindjuju | :) |
| 21:34.10 | mindjuju | job security be good |
| 21:37.01 | carmony | I just hate it that I've been turning down work the last 3 months, and now first quater my major client backed out :P |
| 21:39.09 | beandog | I'm the same way with women. |
| 21:39.49 | mindjuju | sup beandog |
| 21:39.55 | mindjuju | didn't see ya sneak in |
| 21:40.01 | beandog | ey mindjuju |
| 21:40.32 | beandog | either a PCI nvidia card or a PCI / USB sound one |
| 21:40.49 | mindjuju | i'm considering buying some stuff too |
| 21:40.57 | mindjuju | SATA pci card and 1T drives |
| 21:41.00 | mindjuju | 2 of 'em |
| 21:41.21 | beandog | yah |
| 21:41.28 | beandog | Ive got a SATA PCI card |
| 21:41.30 | beandog | they are great to have. |
| 21:43.04 | orsonj | speaking of hardware, I'd really like a usb tv out adapter... |
| 21:43.20 | beandog | do they even make those? |
| 21:43.54 | orsonj | I know they make usb video cards and they make video cards with tv out, they just need put them together |
| 21:44.08 | beandog | oh okay |
| 21:46.35 | orsonj | the closest I've gotten is a VGA to RCA adapter, but that depends wholly on the video card supporting tv frequencies |
| 21:49.17 | beandog | Ive never gotten those things to work right anyway |
| 21:49.55 | orsonj | I can get goofy fuzz that resembles what is on the screen if you squint right and have a good imagination. |
| 21:52.33 | orsonj | http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3584104&CatId=1428 |
| 21:52.41 | orsonj | That in reverse would be ideal |
| 21:52.58 | mindjuju | here, this is for beandog 's sorrows - 100% guarantee no rickroll - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=np6vAuS0KNs |
| 21:53.23 | beandog | mindjuju, I left my headphones at home |
| 21:53.24 | beandog | :( |
| 21:53.36 | mindjuju | ah, twas the Yub Nub song from Jedi |
| 21:54.21 | beandog | orsonj, yah |
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| 22:31.47 | carmony | in linux shell, is there a way to truncate a log file? |
| 22:39.49 | wps | truncate to zero length? |
| 22:40.12 | wps | if yes, this will do it: |
| 22:40.23 | wps | cat /dev/null > file.log |
| 22:41.45 | wps | that takes the contents of /dev/null (which is nothing) and replaces the contents of file.log with it |
| 22:41.53 | wps | thus, truncating to zero |
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| 23:02.32 | carmony | thanks wps :) |
| 23:03.36 | wps | any time |
| 23:04.14 | carmony | I added it to my list of useful commands :) |
| 23:04.15 | carmony | http://www.justincarmony.com/blog/2008/12/17/useful-shell-commands/ |
| 23:07.06 | wps | funny, I looked it up on _my_ cheat sheet |
| 23:20.15 | thebigdog | here is a useful command sed -e :a -e '$!N;s/\n\(=[0-9]\)/\1/;ta' -e 'P;D' |
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