| 00:47.36 | macnewbold | ~rlart |
| 00:47.37 | jbot | keeps mailing carmony free America Online CDs until he drowns |
| 00:47.39 | macnewbold | hehe |
| 00:48.43 | mindjuju | still working macnewbold |
| 01:04.57 | macnewbold | yeah |
| 01:05.06 | macnewbold | working hard, hardly working - same thing |
| 01:05.12 | macnewbold | too much to do, not enough time |
| 01:07.28 | mindjuju | know the feeling -- i'm trying to finish up some stuff before tomorrow afternoon |
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| 02:34.35 | macnewbold | have fun with your family mindjuju1 |
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| 14:58.22 | Utah_Dave | morning everyone |
| 15:00.27 | jsmith | Morning Utah_Dave |
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| 16:05.48 | herlo | hi |
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| 16:10.11 | mindjuju1 | hi all |
| 16:10.16 | *** topic/#UPHPU by thebigdog -> Utah PHP Users Group | uphpu.org | Happy Holidays |
| 16:10.41 | mindjuju1 | i'm thinking about adding SATA drives to my computer via a PCI SATA controller card, anybody heard anything good / bad on them |
| 16:10.53 | mindjuju1 | ie reliability, performance, etc? |
| 16:10.57 | thebigdog | they are fine |
| 16:11.46 | mindjuju1 | do you get a performance hit by using pci and not pci-e or onboard controllers? |
| 16:12.42 | thebigdog | between the 2 there is a difference |
| 16:12.53 | thebigdog | does you motherboard have sata connectors? |
| 16:12.59 | mindjuju1 | nope |
| 16:13.24 | thebigdog | pcie is better if you can get that one |
| 16:14.27 | thebigdog | are you wanting to support a certain raid config on it? |
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| 17:17.04 | mgeary | CSS+++++++ |
| 17:19.38 | mgeary | ~karma |
| 17:19.38 | jbot | mgeary has karma of 12 |
| 17:21.04 | burnin | mindjuju1: you will likely need PCIe to take advantage of SATA 3.0Gbps drives. |
| 17:21.56 | burnin | mindjuju1: PCI maxes out at around 133MB/s, a SATA 3.0Gbps drive can sustain that data transfer rate by itself. |
| 17:22.10 | burnin | mindjuju1: PCIe is capable of 250MB/s on a single lane. |
| 17:28.53 | burnin | mindjuju1: looks like for $15 you can drop in a PCI based SATA controller and get by but if you really want the full benefit of SATA drives you'll probably need a new motherboard. |
| 17:29.40 | DexterTheDragon | which will then come with onboard sata connectors |
| 17:34.41 | burnin | yep, and depending on how the box is used a new mobo with integrated video may be the way to go and could be had for easily under $100. |
| 17:42.24 | macnewbold | merry christmas eve, DexterTheDragon! We miss you. |
| 17:42.31 | macnewbold | ~nickometer mindjuju1 |
| 17:42.36 | macnewbold | hehe |
| 17:42.46 | DexterTheDragon | ~lart macnewbold |
| 17:42.46 | jbot | gets a hotmal account and SPAMs macnewbold |
| 17:43.12 | macnewbold | ~teach jbot how to spell "hotmail" |
| 17:43.12 | jbot | ACTION sits jbot down and forces jbot to learn to how to spell "hotmail", even if it takes 15 years |
| 17:43.34 | carmony | ~lart macnewbold |
| 17:43.34 | jbot | does a little 'dpkg -P macnewbold' action |
| 17:44.36 | macnewbold | ~driveby carmony |
| 17:44.45 | macnewbold | ~zippy |
| 17:47.47 | carmony | ~nickometer carmony |
| 17:49.21 | mindjuju1 | k, i'm back |
| 17:49.30 | mindjuju1 | thx for the info on data transf burnin |
| 17:49.43 | mindjuju1 | i've been out of hardware for too long, need to learn the new stuff |
| 17:49.56 | mindjuju1 | macnewbold, i'm never lame |
| 17:50.02 | mindjuju1 | ~nickometer mindjuju |
| 17:50.06 | mindjuju1 | yup |
| 17:50.09 | mindjuju1 | tis true |
| 17:50.22 | macnewbold | ~nickometer mindjuju |
| 17:50.27 | macnewbold | now you're not lame |
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| 17:50.58 | mindjuju | so what's going on over at CG? |
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| 18:00.47 | itimber | moring guys |
| 18:07.16 | itimber | mmmmm |
| 18:07.24 | itimber | TY mgeary |
| 18:08.28 | carmony | I love those :) |
| 18:08.35 | carmony | Everying having a good holiday season?. |
| 18:09.59 | carmony | ... you're insanse wps |
| 18:10.35 | mgeary | i'm with wps |
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| 18:11.15 | carmony | I would love 4 feet, as long as it didn't snow on the roads and my driveway :P |
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| 18:19.51 | thebigdog | tomorrow there is a big storm coming |
| 18:20.38 | carmony | I know... and I'm supose to be flying tomorrow |
| 18:22.47 | thebigdog | ouch |
| 18:22.54 | thebigdog | the storm actually starts tonight |
| 18:24.19 | carmony | hopefully its over in the afternoon |
| 18:25.24 | thebigdog | supposedly all day...but i dont think it will |
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| 18:35.01 | herlo | carmony: snow probably won't delay your flight much |
| 18:35.06 | herlo | at least not in Utah |
| 18:35.28 | herlo | but if you are going somewhere like Chicago or the NorthEast, it can be delayed and/or cancelled |
| 18:35.56 | carmony | I'm goin to San Diego :P |
| 18:38.50 | herlo | carmony: oh, well that won't be a problem |
| 18:38.53 | herlo | just delayed is all |
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| 18:57.55 | mindjuju | that's cool! - http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&taxonomyName=storage&articleId=9124298&taxonomyId=19&intsrc=kc_feat |
| 18:58.59 | Utah_Dave | 2 co-workers of mine couldn't fly into Salt Lake last Friday because of the snow. They had to stay an extra night in Burbank |
| 18:59.13 | romanovic | has anyone used elance.com or similar site? I've never freelanced using a website and was hoping you could recommend one or more |
| 18:59.17 | Utah_Dave | One of those rare instances when SLC airport couldn't handle all the snow |
| 18:59.51 | mindjuju | romanovic - have never used elance |
| 18:59.57 | mindjuju | for contract or outsourcing |
| 19:00.28 | romanovic | i'm looking for contract work |
| 19:00.30 | mindjuju | i did check into it a while back though, like 6 or 7 yrs ago, and was disappointed that they were charging contractors like $100 a month for "premium" |
| 19:00.49 | mindjuju | and then you're bidding with othyer contractors ... |
| 19:00.58 | mindjuju | i don't know if its changed, but... |
| 19:01.17 | mindjuju | let's see, as far as contractor sources, something local is Herritiege web solutions |
| 19:01.25 | mindjuju | i haven't worked for them, nor know anything about them |
| 19:01.42 | mindjuju | i just know i get an email from them every now and then letting me know that they have contracts |
| 19:02.27 | burnin | mindjuju: that eSATA flash drive is pretty cool, USB is a pain for large data transfers. |
| 19:02.32 | romanovic | yeah. i looked at them a while back and it didn't seem worth it to me then, but i met a guy the other day who had had success with them, so i'm checking it out again |
| 19:02.45 | mindjuju | here is web http://www.heritagewebdesign.com/careers/ |
| 19:03.00 | mindjuju | burnin, hopefully i'll get some $$ for Christmas and get me one |
| 19:03.01 | carmony | Is there anything like rsync for windows? |
| 19:03.28 | romanovic | mindjuju: thanks, i'll take a look |
| 19:03.44 | mindjuju | i don't know much about rsync, but there is a powertool for winders called aptly enough sync 2.0 |
| 19:03.54 | mindjuju | that's free (provided your winders is legal) |
| 19:04.03 | olds | rsync > * |
| 19:04.20 | mindjuju | carmony - http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=c26efa36-98e0-4ee9-a7c5-98d0592d8c52&displaylang=en |
| 19:04.32 | olds | actually we use rdiff-backup |
| 19:04.33 | mindjuju | and it's called synctoy v2.0 not sync, sorry |
| 19:05.01 | mindjuju | olds, is there a winders port? |
| 19:05.17 | mindjuju | cool |
| 19:05.48 | olds | we do filesystem backups every 12 hours iirc |
| 19:05.56 | olds | using rdiff backup |
| 19:05.59 | olds | works great |
| 19:08.40 | burnin | cygwin is always an option for rsync on windows. |
| 19:09.02 | burnin | http://www.gaztronics.net/rsync.php |
| 19:09.25 | eggyknap | Last I tried it, cygwin's rsync worked ok, but had some problematic threading issues from time to time. |
| 19:09.35 | burnin | I don't use windows myself so I'm not sure what the difficulty level is on cygwin. |
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| 19:12.13 | burnin | if the backup server is running linux I suppose you could also setup a backup script to mount the Windows share on the client and do all the rsync work on the backup machine itself. Just a thought. |
| 19:19.14 | thebigdog | romanovic, i have used the freelance type sites for both contract and other things |
| 19:19.54 | romanovic | thebigdog, has it worked out for you? |
| 19:24.30 | Utah_Dave | carmony: http://www.aboutmyip.com/AboutMyXApp/DeltaCopy.jsp |
| 19:24.48 | Utah_Dave | rsync for windows. It has a decent little gui and you can use the command line as well |
| 19:25.05 | Utah_Dave | It works with the Linux/Unix rsync |
| 19:25.40 | mgeary | ?? |
| 19:25.40 | unum | or live with someone who's company althoughs desinated partners to have benefits |
| 19:25.44 | mgeary | ah |
| 19:25.55 | unum | my doctor thinks I have lupis |
| 19:26.04 | mgeary | well to hear various experts talk about it, the future will see a de-coupling of health insurance from work |
| 19:26.20 | unum | we'll see |
| 19:26.24 | mgeary | we're the only country in the world that ties health insurance to employment |
| 19:26.29 | unum | ya |
| 19:26.33 | mgeary | crazy |
| 19:26.59 | mgeary | that sucks, unum, hope it turns out to be nothing at all |
| 19:27.34 | unum | I guess it can be hard to diagnosis |
| 19:27.45 | unum | I only have one sympton so far, arthritis |
| 19:29.02 | unum | well time to go |
| 19:29.07 | unum | happy holidays |
| 19:29.27 | unum | and you evangilical christians: read your bible |
| 19:31.49 | mgeary | ?? |
| 19:36.53 | mindjuju | :( |
| 19:37.11 | mindjuju | rofl |
| 19:44.03 | mgeary | alright folks. I'm heading out for the holiday. Try to get along without me |
| 19:44.17 | mgeary | ~mindjuju++ |
| 19:44.21 | mgeary | ~unum++ |
| 19:44.25 | mgeary | ~Utah_Dave++ |
| 19:44.29 | mindjuju | thx mgeary! |
| 19:44.31 | mgeary | ~thebigdog++ |
| 19:44.32 | Utah_Dave | thanks! |
| 19:44.52 | mgeary | later! |
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| 19:51.20 | thebigdog | romanovic, it has for some small things |
| 19:51.55 | thebigdog | romanovic, the issue that i have is that you are competing with tons of people that charge really low rates |
| 19:52.20 | thebigdog | so you need to target people in the US and make sure that you let them know where you are and that they can contact you anytime |
| 19:52.30 | thebigdog | that has been the biggest help for me |
| 19:54.10 | romanovic | thebigdog, gotcha, thx for the info |
| 19:54.23 | thebigdog | np |
| 19:54.32 | thebigdog | i use guru.com a lot |
| 19:54.48 | thebigdog | elance i dont use much cause that one has tons of india companies |
| 19:55.41 | mindjuju | now that you mention india, i recall fixing an app that was outsourced to india |
| 19:55.55 | mindjuju | in the end, i advised faster to just rebuild |
| 19:56.09 | mindjuju | they were doing weird stuff, like this |
| 19:56.22 | mindjuju | on the top of the page there was this weird similar code |
| 19:57.10 | mindjuju | $passwordee = $passworde |
| 19:57.10 | mindjuju | $var2ee = $var2e |
| 19:57.11 | mindjuju | $var3ee = $var2e |
| 19:57.35 | mindjuju | then on the third page, it went to $var2eee = $var2ee |
| 19:57.46 | mindjuju | this part was a login portion where it was a chain of pages |
| 19:57.50 | mindjuju | really weird |
| 19:57.50 | thebigdog | yeah i have fixed too much code form india companies |
| 19:57.59 | thebigdog | i reject a lot of rewrite work like that |
| 19:58.16 | thebigdog | cause it just would be faster to rewrite it imho |
| 19:58.20 | mindjuju | yup |
| 19:58.41 | mindjuju | i didn't get that gig through elance, but i know they got the wok done through elance |
| 19:58.53 | mindjuju | and you're right, the client is pissed that they are paying twice |
| 19:58.57 | mindjuju | disgruntled, etc |
| 19:59.02 | thebigdog | elance is if you want cheap stuff |
| 19:59.36 | mindjuju | course though, i did see somebody (same company) that got some really nice icon sets off elance for a decent amount |
| 20:00.01 | mindjuju | where it would have been far more to get custom icons by just going through a GD, and they didn't want generic ones |
| 20:01.42 | thebigdog | yeah |
| 20:01.48 | thebigdog | sometimes it is hit or miss |
| 20:01.53 | thebigdog | and really a miss in development |
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| 22:14.10 | itimber | I'm out.... lata dawgs |
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