| 00:06.42 | itimber | k, I'm out.... later guys |
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| 00:33.24 | beandog | I just spent an hour tracking down the dumbest bug. |
| 00:33.30 | beandog | -_- |
| 00:34.58 | beandog | if you use autoExecute and the array is empty / non-existant, it throws a totally cryptic error |
| 00:35.24 | beandog | typo on my part, but still.... took forever to find. |
| 00:35.38 | beandog | it never checked the data type either. |
| 01:01.18 | thebigdog | fungus you around? |
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| 15:59.14 | *** topic/#UPHPU by mindjuju -> Utah PHP Users Group | uphpu.org |
| 16:00.42 | carmony | hey mindjuju |
| 16:00.56 | mindjuju | hi carmony |
| 16:01.09 | mindjuju | what are you up to this morning? |
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| 16:03.55 | carmony | burning through a bug list |
| 16:07.24 | mastergunns | carmony: me too - was almost at zero late night - qa must have been up working last night because this morning I have a longer list :) |
| 16:07.51 | carmony | where do you work mastergunns? |
| 16:19.43 | mindjuju | the RIAA ... NOT SUING anymore? |
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| 16:21.36 | herlo | mindjuju: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122966038836021137.html |
| 16:21.58 | herlo | thing is, they're not stopping their attack |
| 16:22.07 | herlo | now they're trying to get agreements with the ISPs |
| 16:22.14 | herlo | which is lame |
| 16:22.46 | herlo | they should go to the business model tv has, give it away for free |
| 16:22.48 | mindjuju | not nearly as bad though |
| 16:22.56 | herlo | oh? You think so? |
| 16:23.00 | mindjuju | yeah |
| 16:23.05 | herlo | slowing down internet on a 'possible' infraction? |
| 16:23.14 | herlo | that's bs |
| 16:23.19 | mindjuju | wait, where is slowing down internet? |
| 16:23.25 | herlo | they have *no* right to do so |
| 16:23.31 | mindjuju | in the other article it was talk to ISP to see if they would kick you off |
| 16:23.42 | mindjuju | yeah, but do you really think the ISPs are going to comply? |
| 16:23.44 | herlo | Depending on the agreement, the ISP will either forward the note to customers, or alert customers that they appear to be uploading music illegally, and ask them to stop. If the customers continue the file-sharing, they will get one or two more emails, perhaps accompanied by slower service from the provider. Finally, the ISP may cut off their access altogether. |
| 16:23.51 | herlo | straigh from the wsj |
| 16:24.09 | mindjuju | if they get a contract with that ISP |
| 16:24.12 | herlo | that's not right. |
| 16:24.24 | herlo | yeah, and I'll avoid any ISP that buys into that |
| 16:24.29 | mindjuju | well sure |
| 16:24.33 | mindjuju | and who wouldn't |
| 16:24.34 | herlo | though I don't download music |
| 16:24.40 | herlo | exactly my point |
| 16:24.44 | herlo | it won't work |
| 16:24.45 | mindjuju | huh? |
| 16:24.56 | mindjuju | k, i'm cornfused |
| 16:25.01 | herlo | what about? |
| 16:25.05 | carmony | the answer is 42 |
| 16:25.11 | herlo | exactly |
| 16:25.14 | herlo | :) |
| 16:25.28 | mindjuju | i said they are stop suing, and that's good. the thought being ISPs aren't going to do what they want anyways because everybody will just leave them |
| 16:26.00 | herlo | except that if *major* isps like comcrap and qworst join up, people *cant* really leave |
| 16:26.16 | mindjuju | yeah, but then there is lovely xmission |
| 16:26.21 | herlo | it's a good opportunity for the xmissions of the world |
| 16:26.24 | carmony | I can only get comcrap and qworst where I live :( |
| 16:26.35 | herlo | mindjuju: but there's a problem, who does xm use for its lines ?? |
| 16:26.42 | herlo | qworst! |
| 16:26.46 | beandog | right now, yes |
| 16:26.49 | beandog | but theyre leasing the lines directly |
| 16:26.50 | SunSparc | qworst-- |
| 16:26.52 | beandog | or going to. |
| 16:26.53 | SunSparc | comcrap-- |
| 16:27.51 | SunSparc | UTOPIA is on the next street over from my house but they have no timeline for bringing it to my street. :( |
| 16:28.17 | herlo | in my case, they have network boxes on my property |
| 16:28.32 | SunSparc | Sheesh |
| 16:28.33 | herlo | but because I am a condo community with lots of older folks, it won't happen soon |
| 16:28.49 | herlo | even though, I am on the board |
| 16:29.58 | carmony | have you seen this bonded DSL thing? |
| 16:30.39 | SunSparc | ~rlart |
| 16:30.40 | jbot | gives mastergunns an extra strength ACME sleeping pill, sending mastergunns to sleep for 150 years, and awakening to seven strange dwarfs and a large apple |
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| 16:31.16 | mgeary | wow, i don't think i've ever seen that lart |
| 16:31.20 | herlo | carmony: no, what is it? |
| 16:31.35 | mindjuju | mgeary, they've been updating jbot recently |
| 16:31.45 | mindjuju | i've seen jbot do different things in certain circumstances lately |
| 16:31.46 | carmony | http://www.xmission.com/products/connections/dsl/bondeddsl/ |
| 16:31.57 | SunSparc | ~seen colejoplin |
| 16:31.57 | jbot | SunSparc: i haven't seen 'colejoplin' |
| 16:32.19 | mindjuju | sunsparc, do you need cole? |
| 16:32.22 | mindjuju | i can reach him |
| 16:32.35 | DexterTheDragon | with the force |
| 16:32.52 | SunSparc | mindjuju: I just had some php pdf questions for him. |
| 16:32.56 | mindjuju | of course the force |
| 16:33.11 | SunSparc | I remember his presentation so long ago: http://colejoplin.com/presentations/pdf/PDF_and_PHP.html |
| 16:33.20 | mindjuju | yeah, that was a good 'un |
| 16:33.22 | SunSparc | I have been using FPDF and it is decent. |
| 16:33.31 | herlo | carmony: dsl can go faster than that can't it? |
| 16:33.39 | mindjuju | i actually used fpdf for making legal contract for a web gig i did a few months back |
| 16:33.45 | SunSparc | But I am wondering if R&OS is more advanced or less. |
| 16:33.57 | mindjuju | oh, hang on quick sec |
| 16:34.57 | mindjuju | hmm, he's not online yet, i'll ask him when he is though |
| 16:35.10 | SunSparc | mindjuju: Cool, thanks. |
| 16:38.10 | mindjuju | darn it! every now and then somebody from Texas does something weird that makes us native Texans look bad - http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/hotstories/6170554.html |
| 16:38.57 | orsonj | The drive in this morning was interesting. http://www.neng.usu.edu/webcam/latest/latest_bldcam2.jpg |
| 16:39.29 | carmony | but... people from Texas ARE weird... |
| 16:40.13 | mindjuju | yeah, i'd imagine that'd be true if you weren't Texan and so desperately wanted to be that you'd given yourself some kind of psychological complex |
| 16:40.25 | mindjuju | :) |
| 16:40.44 | SunSparc | mindjuju: If she wins that case the judge and jury need to be tried for incompetence. |
| 16:40.55 | mindjuju | true that, sunsparc |
| 16:40.58 | mindjuju | i doubt they will |
| 16:41.10 | SunSparc | I should hope they don't |
| 16:45.00 | mindjuju | way cool! I know what i'm going to be doing this weekend! - http://sixrevisions.com/photoshop/25-photoshop-tutorials-for-web-designers/ |
| 16:50.45 | carmony | nice link :) |
| 16:54.38 | macnewbold | ~zippy |
| 16:54.40 | mastergunns | hate it when I accidentally close my chat window. lose all the good stuff. |
| 16:54.55 | macnewbold | ~cookie |
| 16:56.00 | carmony | lol, the only time I see macnewbold say anything is to do random jbot drive-bys :P |
| 16:57.04 | DexterTheDragon | thats the only time I see him too, and I work at the same place |
| 16:58.49 | mindjuju | that macnewbold, he's a wiley one |
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| 17:06.56 | SunSparc | Be back in a bit... |
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| 17:12.56 | mindjuju | finally, ravetrax.com is playing decent music |
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| 17:13.45 | esses | hi all |
| 17:14.10 | esses | I need some help with a function : |
| 17:14.12 | esses | imagecopyresized() |
| 17:15.19 | mindjuju | i'm off and on here all day today, but ask your question, others are here |
| 17:15.56 | esses | if I want to use it into a php file that does other things correctly and I have to change the header to use the function I wrote. How Can I set again the old header so the php file works correctly? |
| 17:15.57 | mindjuju | @ esses ^^^ |
| 17:16.12 | esses | yes? |
| 17:16.47 | esses | I'm a newbie in php maybe it is a stupid question :-) |
| 17:17.49 | DexterTheDragon | esses: could you explain it better? |
| 17:18.19 | esses | I call with XmlHttpRequest a php file (all worked correctly) but I need to put into it the image manipulation code and setting the header for the new code it works (I have the new images into the server folder I set) but the old code doesn't work |
| 17:18.48 | esses | I need the image code only to create the image without visualizing it |
| 17:19.21 | DexterTheDragon | visualizing it where? |
| 17:19.37 | esses | nowhere |
| 17:19.39 | esses | :-) |
| 17:19.56 | mindjuju | i think he means he wants to manipulate the image, like through imagemagick |
| 17:19.58 | esses | I'll use it after for other things |
| 17:20.17 | mindjuju | as in, he doesn't want to manipulate the image ni photoshop or something that renders out to screen |
| 17:20.21 | mindjuju | is that right esses ? |
| 17:20.27 | esses | yes |
| 17:20.53 | DexterTheDragon | well thats what imagecopyresized and friends are for |
| 17:20.55 | mindjuju | k, so let's step back a moment, so i can be sure I understand |
| 17:21.01 | esses | I already have done that but the function I wrote need the headers to be changed so the other code doesn't work |
| 17:21.28 | mindjuju | k, so you have this "older code" that does everything you want, except the image manipulation that you now need |
| 17:21.30 | mindjuju | is that right? |
| 17:21.31 | DexterTheDragon | can you paste the code to http://pastebin.ca so we can see it? |
| 17:21.59 | esses | So I have the images but not yet the response to the xmlHTTPRequest that I had before to insert the image code |
| 17:23.05 | mindjuju | k, so post both headers seperately into pastebin so we can look and see how to merge into one |
| 17:23.11 | beandog | hmm |
| 17:23.11 | esses | @mindjuju : yes correct. I need a way to change the header only to modify image and then restore the old header so i can get the old correct response |
| 17:23.18 | beandog | how do you debug getting a 500 apache error |
| 17:23.19 | beandog | :T |
| 17:23.35 | beandog | am I gonna have to step through this code to see whats causing it? Im not getting any live in error_log |
| 17:23.46 | DexterTheDragon | beandog: reboot :) |
| 17:23.52 | beandog | DexterTheDragon, eh? |
| 17:23.54 | esses | okay I'll paste the orig code. |
| 17:23.56 | beandog | its my wordpress feed. |
| 17:23.56 | beandog | :T |
| 17:23.57 | DexterTheDragon | apache errer logs? |
| 17:24.06 | beandog | nothing in there either, other than the 500 response |
| 17:24.09 | DexterTheDragon | maybe the error ones too |
| 17:24.49 | beandog | I dont have a cat |
| 17:25.14 | beandog | maybe there was something else in the apache log, I didnt look that close... |
| 17:26.55 | DexterTheDragon | beandog: you may be able to turn the log level up |
| 17:27.09 | beandog | DexterTheDragon, nah, its on a hosted thingie ... |
| 17:27.12 | beandog | cant really do much |
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| 17:31.10 | esses | I pasted it |
| 17:31.20 | esses | the orig code is at http://pastebin.com/d36dcdab9 |
| 17:32.00 | esses | the code to add is at http://pastebin.com/d22d717fb |
| 17:32.15 | beandog | nope, nothing in the log .... poo |
| 17:32.48 | esses | obviously I've to adapt the 2nd code to put it into the first but some days ago I did it but htere were header problems as I said |
| 17:33.32 | _psychic_ | poo is supposed to come in logs |
| 17:33.45 | mgeary | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:33.53 | esses | the header of line 25 of the second pastebin file |
| 17:34.20 | esses | destroy my old file (the first pastebin) correct response |
| 17:35.11 | DexterTheDragon | esses: so do you want to return the image file or the json? |
| 17:35.49 | esses | the json, for the image I want only the conversion and put it into a folder |
| 17:36.38 | DexterTheDragon | but your trying to call showPreviewImage to do that conversion, yes? |
| 17:37.16 | esses | in the file I didn't find I had use the include with the image manipulation file |
| 17:37.26 | esses | I used :-) |
| 17:38.06 | esses | yes I call showPreview (a wrong name but I chose it in that moment) |
| 17:38.52 | esses | the correct is probably "createAThumb()" |
| 17:39.21 | DexterTheDragon | probably what you'll want to do is move the image manipulation code, the imagecreate and imagecopy calls, into a seperate function that you can call seperatly from a showPreview one |
| 17:40.13 | esses | I've already done that, but I don't find the file now. I posted the two files to understand the problem |
| 17:40.49 | esses | however setting the header for the manipulation code creates problems with the json file |
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| 17:42.31 | esses | i need to set the header to the original after the image manipulation lines of code and before the json echo or.... any suggestions? |
| 17:43.53 | esses | I need to put the image manipultion line after line 103 and before line 104 of the first file i pasted |
| 17:44.20 | DexterTheDragon | yes, you have a function, showPreviewImage, doing two things, 1) resizing an image and 2) pushing that image to the browser. You should make 2 function that do 1 thing each. a function for both of those steps |
| 17:45.27 | esses | no i need only the step 1 putting the image into a folder i set |
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| 17:46.20 | DexterTheDragon | then take lines 25 and 36 out of showPreviewImage |
| 17:46.24 | esses | If i can I don't want to use another function but putting hte image code into the code block i said before (lines 103-image code-line 104) |
| 17:47.55 | esses | but I can't use the image functions without line 25 |
| 17:48.05 | esses | as read into manuals |
| 17:48.25 | DexterTheDragon | you only need line 25 if your pushing the image file to the browser |
| 17:48.54 | DexterTheDragon | line 36 then pushes that image file to the broswer |
| 17:49.15 | DexterTheDragon | lines 29-33 are what do the resizing |
| 17:50.10 | esses | and to psave image into a folder? |
| 17:50.36 | esses | the code is into line 36 |
| 17:50.49 | DexterTheDragon | imagecopyresized it what saves the file somewhere on the server |
| 17:51.30 | esses | yes but to set the output folder? |
| 17:52.04 | DexterTheDragon | what do you mean by output folder? |
| 17:52.28 | esses | a folder into server |
| 17:52.41 | esses | not the same of the orig image |
| 17:54.05 | DexterTheDragon | ok yeah, imagejpeg will save the image there |
| 17:54.12 | DexterTheDragon | so you probably just need to remove line 25 |
| 17:55.19 | esses | i try it now but i remember I need the line 25 |
| 17:55.22 | esses | wait... |
| 18:08.40 | esses | okay |
| 18:09.05 | esses | thanks :-) |
| 18:31.53 | macnewbold | ~lart carmony |
| 18:31.53 | jbot | puts carmony through a wood chipper |
| 18:31.55 | macnewbold | ~runaway |
| 18:34.42 | carmony | LOL, hey! |
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| 18:35.35 | mindjuju | he's getting more thuggy |
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| 19:06.56 | beandog | http://gizmodo.com/5114204/rebel-shark-that-plays-by-his-own-rules-jumps-onto-waterslide-lives-fast-dies-young |
| 19:08.17 | mindjuju | funny |
| 19:10.11 | carmony | omg wow |
| 19:10.59 | beandog | nooo auto bailout goes through |
| 19:11.00 | beandog | :( |
| 19:11.29 | carmony | Bah |
| 19:11.40 | carmony | I might as well wipe my crap with my tax dollars :P |
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| 19:46.51 | mindjuju | anybody here ever driven from SLC to Cali |
| 19:47.04 | carmony | not since I was little |
| 19:47.11 | mindjuju | ah |
| 19:47.20 | mindjuju | yeah, i'll need a person who actually drove it, too |
| 19:47.56 | mgeary | yes |
| 19:48.00 | mgeary | i have several times |
| 19:48.10 | mindjuju | awesome, mgeary, got a question |
| 19:48.14 | mgeary | most recently in October |
| 19:48.24 | mgeary | though it was Provo to SoCal, not SLC |
| 19:48.33 | mindjuju | my wife is driving I80 and is currently just outside reno |
| 19:48.39 | mindjuju | oh, so that was the southern route, huh? |
| 19:48.41 | mgeary | so she's going to SF? |
| 19:48.43 | mindjuju | not over donner pass? |
| 19:48.48 | mindjuju | nope, oakland |
| 19:48.48 | mgeary | i've done that too |
| 19:48.51 | mgeary | but it's been a while |
| 19:48.58 | mgeary | SF ~ Oakland |
| 19:49.00 | mgeary | ;) |
| 19:49.06 | mindjuju | k, first off, donner pass is in cali, right? |
| 19:49.20 | mgeary | well, it's right on the boarder, no? In the Sierra Nevadas |
| 19:49.27 | mindjuju | yup, somewhere int he mountains |
| 19:49.36 | mgeary | i suppose it's across the border, couldn't tell you exactly |
| 19:49.47 | mindjuju | wife is 90 miles out of reno (east) and is hitting some moderate snow |
| 19:49.56 | mindjuju | i'm trying to find out if she should even try for donner's pass |
| 19:49.56 | mgeary | ah |
| 19:50.02 | mgeary | you want to know if it's going to get worse or better |
| 19:50.06 | mindjuju | yup |
| 19:50.14 | mindjuju | having a hard time pinning down who to call |
| 19:50.18 | mindjuju | and what is expected weather |
| 19:50.54 | mgeary | well |
| 19:51.01 | mgeary | there are quite a few mountains ahead of her |
| 19:51.12 | mindjuju | yeah, that whole range |
| 19:51.29 | mindjuju | i've never crossed those mountains, so feeling a little out of element |
| 19:51.39 | mgeary | has she hit Truckee yet? |
| 19:51.43 | mgeary | passed Tahoe? |
| 19:51.45 | mindjuju | nope |
| 19:51.52 | mindjuju | she's east of reno |
| 19:51.54 | mgeary | oh |
| 19:51.55 | mgeary | du |
| 19:51.56 | mgeary | duh |
| 19:51.58 | mgeary | i was thinking west |
| 19:52.07 | mgeary | well |
| 19:52.21 | mgeary | one sec |
| 19:52.40 | mindjuju | i think i'll call nevada & california highway patrol and see if i can get road conditions all the way across |
| 19:52.52 | mgeary | yeah |
| 19:53.31 | mindjuju | i have an hour and half before she hits reno, so i hvae some time to get her info |
| 19:53.31 | mgeary | problem is, there's really no places to stop in those mountains |
| 19:53.31 | mindjuju | yeah, that's what i'm afraid of |
| 19:53.31 | mindjuju | reno is really last stopping point, AFAIK |
| 19:53.41 | mgeary | hrm |
| 19:53.47 | mgeary | 100% chance of precip in Truckee |
| 19:53.57 | mgeary | http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=95721&hourly=1&yday=353&weekday=Friday |
| 19:53.58 | mindjuju | she's in a 4 wheel drive extended jeep wrangler |
| 19:54.10 | mgeary | though it says it's "light snow" |
| 19:54.18 | mindjuju | but if weather is bad, she might need chains |
| 19:54.23 | mgeary | is she by her lonesome? |
| 19:54.33 | mindjuju | how is the driving in the mountain pass? is there a lot of switchbacks and stuff |
| 19:54.38 | mindjuju | nope, she's with my sister in law |
| 19:54.43 | mgeary | a lot of truckers go that route, so there would at least be people |
| 19:54.53 | mgeary | but i haven't driven it in show for a long time |
| 19:54.56 | mgeary | *snow |
| 19:56.59 | mindjuju | that looks like some serious elevation |
| 19:57.35 | herlo | mindjuju: it's not bad, but if there is snow, they'll close off the roads |
| 19:57.44 | mindjuju | hmmm |
| 19:57.51 | mindjuju | so last question you guys |
| 19:57.54 | herlo | feet of snow |
| 19:58.11 | mindjuju | when driving through the mountain ranges, how long is that trip from reno to sacramento? |
| 19:58.14 | mindjuju | is that a few hours? |
| 19:58.23 | herlo | couple hours iirc |
| 19:58.37 | herlo | in good weather |
| 19:59.00 | herlo | mindjuju: when are you going? |
| 19:59.04 | mindjuju | looks like there is some decent curves as it tracks around the mountains |
| 19:59.14 | mindjuju | herlo wife is 90 miles east of Reno |
| 19:59.20 | herlo | right now? |
| 19:59.21 | mindjuju | she'll be hitting it in 2 hours |
| 19:59.28 | herlo | oh |
| 19:59.32 | herlo | w0w! |
| 19:59.41 | mindjuju | yup, so the question is, does she stayin reno or go for it |
| 20:00.05 | mindjuju | too bad dataw0lf isn't here |
| 20:00.16 | mindjuju | ~seen dataw0lf |
| 20:00.21 | jbot | dataw0lf <n=stderr@truedat.org> was last seen on IRC in channel #utah, 15d 2h 21m 47s ago, saying: 'win 6'. |
| 20:00.21 | herlo | make sure she reads the signs. If there's a chain-up she should stay in reno |
| 20:00.24 | herlo | mindjuju: reno looks clear atm |
| 20:00.33 | herlo | but it's taho you should look at |
| 20:00.36 | herlo | tahoe |
| 20:01.02 | mindjuju | why is that? |
| 20:01.13 | herlo | that's where the snow is |
| 20:01.14 | mindjuju | i know its on the route, but does the lake throw out a bunch of snow? |
| 20:01.18 | mindjuju | yeah, hmmm |
| 20:01.29 | herlo | they have some of the best ski resorts in Cali there |
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| 20:26.28 | Trevyn | How do you set PMA to show a list of mysql servers it can connect to? |
| 20:27.32 | Trevyn | ....... |
| 20:28.04 | Trevyn | How do you set PMA to show a list of mysql servers it can connect to? |
| 20:28.39 | beandog | you dont |
| 20:28.51 | carmony | pma? |
| 20:28.53 | beandog | well, you edit the config to add more servers |
| 20:28.59 | beandog | but it wont autodetect ones |
| 20:29.04 | beandog | its just in config.inc.php or something |
| 20:29.09 | beandog | carmony, phpMyAdmin |
| 20:29.33 | Trevyn | beandog: yeah I want to add a new server to the drop down |
| 20:29.36 | Trevyn | Im ushign HTTP auth now |
| 20:29.43 | Trevyn | Ive seen it done before |
| 20:32.03 | mgeary | i just use PMA for the DB server on the localhost |
| 20:32.29 | mgeary | never tried what you're doing |
| 20:33.19 | beandog | its easy, I manage three with mine |
| 20:34.07 | beandog | http://gadgets.boingboing.net/2008/12/19/zack-zack-hes-a-lego.html |
| 20:34.47 | Trevyn | $cfg['Servers'][$i]['auth_type'] = 'http'; |
| 20:34.47 | Trevyn | /* Server parameters */ |
| 20:34.47 | Trevyn | $cfg['Servers'][$i]['host'] = 'localhost'; |
| 20:34.47 | Trevyn | $cfg['Servers'][$i]['host'] = 'mysql.utah.bytenetworking.com'; |
| 20:34.50 | Trevyn | beandog? |
| 20:35.13 | beandog | $i++; |
| 20:35.14 | beandog | add another one |
| 20:35.36 | Trevyn | k |
| 20:37.46 | Trevyn | beandog: do I need to change the auth method/ |
| 20:37.52 | beandog | change whatever settings you want |
| 20:37.59 | beandog | its a whole new config |
| 20:38.06 | beandog | and read the docs. ;) |
| 20:38.09 | beandog | its there at the top of the page. |
| 20:38.16 | beandog | Im off to lunch |
| 20:38.27 | Trevyn | Doen thanks |
| 20:38.28 | Trevyn | http://web1.utah.bytenetworking.com/phpMyAdmin |
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| 20:38.48 | PoeticIntensity | Long time, gents.... What's new? |
| 20:38.54 | mgeary | you should think twice about having the directory be named phpMyAdmin, Trevyn |
| 20:38.58 | PoeticIntensity | wow... carmony wasn't impressed. |
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| 20:39.14 | mgeary | ah well |
| 20:39.16 | PoeticIntensity | heh. |
| 20:39.21 | PoeticIntensity | I can tell I just missed something good. |
| 20:39.21 | mgeary | greets, PoeticIntensity |
| 20:39.24 | mgeary | nah |
| 20:39.26 | mgeary | he was very tame |
| 20:39.32 | PoeticIntensity | Merry Christmas, mgeary |
| 20:39.44 | PoeticIntensity | yo mindjuju.... |
| 20:39.47 | PoeticIntensity | (or anyone else) |
| 20:39.56 | mgeary | likewise, PoeticIntensity |
| 20:39.58 | mindjuju | mgeary, i saw a google string that pulled back all the phpMyAdmins it knew about |
| 20:40.03 | mindjuju | like 2 months ago |
| 20:40.07 | PoeticIntensity | any way to see if PHP is installed on an IIS server? (without having access to the server itself) |
| 20:40.20 | mindjuju | can you post a file on the server? |
| 20:40.21 | PoeticIntensity | holy cow, mindjuju ..... |
| 20:40.23 | mgeary | PoeticIntensity: the server will sometimes tell you |
| 20:40.33 | PoeticIntensity | yeah... I had it give me a 404, and it was generic... |
| 20:40.36 | mgeary | no |
| 20:40.38 | mindjuju | yeah, but he can't access the server |
| 20:40.38 | PoeticIntensity | fairly uninformative. |
| 20:40.42 | mgeary | what's the domain? |
| 20:40.46 | PoeticIntensity | www.novitra.com |
| 20:40.58 | mgeary | http://toolbar.netcraft.com/site_report?url=http://www.novitra.com |
| 20:41.06 | mindjuju | poeticintensity, try throwing example.php where it contains <?php phpinfo() ?> |
| 20:41.06 | mgeary | hrm |
| 20:41.08 | mindjuju | and run it |
| 20:41.21 | mgeary | hrm, netcraft used to tell you more than that |
| 20:41.25 | PoeticIntensity | aaahhh... *great* idea. |
| 20:41.32 | PoeticIntensity | I do have FTP access. |
| 20:41.37 | PoeticIntensity | man... I'm an idiot. ;-) |
| 20:41.38 | mindjuju | mgeary, but the ini can be told not to say if it is php or no |
| 20:41.42 | mgeary | right |
| 20:41.51 | PoeticIntensity | heh... so you're agreeing with me, mgeary ? |
| 20:42.00 | mgeary | and yeah, if you can upload to the site, it's easy enough to find out... ;) |
| 20:42.01 | mindjuju | PI, no worries, i had a something like that just like 3 days ago |
| 20:42.03 | carmony | lol, that was my laptop PoeticIntensity :P |
| 20:42.08 | mindjuju | can't remember what it was, but felt silly |
| 20:45.16 | PoeticIntensity | boom, baby. |
| 20:45.22 | PoeticIntensity | thanks for whacking my head, mgeary |
| 20:45.27 | PoeticIntensity | http://www.novitra.com/info.php |
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| 20:48.36 | carmony | anyone here ever been to the Apple Store here in Utah? |
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| 20:58.08 | beandog | at gateway? |
| 20:58.12 | beandog | I think, once |
| 20:58.19 | beandog | I almost bought a macbook, I was so entranced. |
| 20:58.27 | PoeticIntensity | you lie. |
| 20:58.30 | beandog | its a trap! |
| 20:58.35 | PoeticIntensity | LOL |
| 20:58.40 | beandog | PoeticIntensity, well, I remember I came really close to buying *something* |
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| 21:03.03 | PoeticIntensity | beandog, for you to not be close to buying something would be my son not asking for something to eat. |
| 21:03.25 | PoeticIntensity | sorry... bad metaphor. |
| 21:03.32 | PoeticIntensity | ah well... |
| 21:04.23 | beandog | heh |
| 21:04.23 | carmony | I have to take my macbook pro in to get fixed, it overheats like... macnewbold on viagra and cialis.... (get my revenge for the drive-by-larts!) |
| 21:04.33 | carmony | I'm just wondering if the peopel down there are competant |
| 21:04.54 | beandog | well, they're dressed nice |
| 21:05.16 | PoeticIntensity | well... I don't dress nicely, and..... |
| 21:05.17 | beandog | don't forget to back up your drive though |
| 21:05.20 | PoeticIntensity | uhh... wait. |
| 21:06.27 | beandog | PoeticIntensity, that reminds me, what was that one t-shirt website |
| 21:06.37 | PoeticIntensity | cottonfactory |
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| 21:07.58 | beandog | http://store.cottonfactory.com/cf-796.html |
| 21:08.13 | PoeticIntensity | hehe..... |
| 21:08.21 | PoeticIntensity | that's some good lookin' puke. |
| 21:09.14 | beandog | http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts-apparel/unisex/popculture/a359/zoom/ |
| 21:09.35 | beandog | lol, this is great http://www.noisebot.com/i_speak_lolcat_t-shirt.htm |
| 21:10.35 | beandog | I wonder if I should leave work before I get snowed in |
| 21:10.56 | PoeticIntensity | nah... you gots snow tires... |
| 21:11.33 | beandog | you know that, and I know that .. |
| 21:11.39 | orsonj | I gots donut spinning tires |
| 21:12.09 | beandog | PoeticIntensity, I was thinking the other day, I wonder what the salt flats would be like |
| 21:12.27 | PoeticIntensity | probably covered in water. |
| 21:12.44 | PoeticIntensity | either that or ice depending on the weather. I don't know what it gets like down there in the winter. |
| 21:13.13 | PoeticIntensity | that's one place I don't think I'd wanna get stuck at. |
| 21:13.25 | orsonj | ice flats would be way fun though |
| 21:13.39 | orsonj | just bring a couple tow trucks and a plow |
| 21:14.19 | beandog | http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,6404759,00.jpg |
| 21:14.23 | beandog | hee hee, that is awesome |
| 21:15.04 | beandog | mindjuju, did you see the lego video |
| 21:25.33 | beandog | there's nothing quite like friday afternoon urlies |
| 21:31.04 | orsonj | http://www.telegraph.co.uk/topics/christmas/3687843/Jesus-was-born-in-June-astronomers-claim.html |
| 21:31.22 | macnewbold | ~bdhit carmony |
| 21:31.22 | jbot | ACTION leaps to Sunrise Claw of the Cruel Snake on carmony |
| 21:31.29 | orsonj | I know it isn't new, but interesting. You can verify this yourself using a copy of Stellarium |
| 21:31.33 | orsonj | kinda cool |
| 21:34.11 | orsonj | http://orson.tetratech.info/Screenshot-Stellarium 0.9.1.png |
| 21:34.52 | orsonj | http://orson.tetratech.info/Screenshot-Stellarium 0.9.1-1.png |
| 21:34.55 | orsonj | http://orson.tetratech.info/Screenshot-Stellarium 0.9.1-2.png |
| 21:35.57 | beandog | well we already knew he was born in April anyway, not December |
| 21:36.01 | beandog | June is closer, anyway |
| 21:40.36 | orsonj | and that shows it as being in the west, not the east |
| 21:45.01 | orsonj | at least right after sunset when it is most visible |
| 21:45.47 | beandog | I knew that science stuff was good for nothing |
| 21:51.20 | beandog | holy crap theres a huge backup on i-80 |
| 21:51.36 | beandog | and theyre going west, too... not much that way |
| 21:59.06 | carmony | ~lart macnewbold |
| 21:59.06 | jbot | dumps 42 tons of dirt, manure, and fish heads on macnewbold |
| 22:02.29 | SunSparc | fish heads, fish heads, rolly polly fish heads... |
| 22:08.56 | herlo | eat them up yum! |
| 22:09.42 | SunSparc | :) |
| 22:09.54 | carmony | hows it goin SunSparc? |
| 22:10.25 | SunSparc | It's good carmony. :) How are you? |
| 22:11.07 | carmony | good, just wrapping up some work before the weekend :) |
| 22:13.42 | SunSparc | Yeah, I am just watching the blizzard outside my window and thinking I may just sleep here tonight... |
| 22:14.11 | carmony | lol, I have to drive to Salt Lake tonight |
| 22:16.00 | SunSparc | Fun |
| 22:16.19 | SunSparc | I am barracading myself into my warm house tonight. |
| 22:19.58 | herlo | anyone in Orem/Provo with a weather update? |
| 22:20.09 | herlo | I'm driving to SoCal tonight |
| 22:33.33 | mgeary | i'm in Orem |
| 22:33.39 | mgeary | pretty good snow right now |
| 22:33.53 | mgeary | the steps outside our office have ~2 inches on them |
| 22:34.25 | herlo | mgeary: thanks |
| 22:35.11 | mgeary | i've also heard that the point of the mountain is not good |
| 22:35.15 | mgeary | some white-out conditions |
| 22:38.15 | SunSparc | herlo, you checking out Google Maps with traffic on? |
| 22:38.42 | SunSparc | Red and yellow all over. |
| 22:50.34 | herlo | SunSparc: yeah, I saw |
| 22:50.37 | herlo | :( |
| 22:51.25 | SunSparc | herlo: Good luck. Drive safe. Even Vegas is under the white stuff. Crazy. |
| 22:51.49 | herlo | right now? I looked and only saw snow storms from here to about Payson |
| 22:51.56 | SunSparc | I guess the Global Warming freaks were right after all. |
| 22:57.22 | herlo | :) |
| 22:58.45 | mgeary | SunSparc: now don't you start |
| 22:58.58 | SunSparc | mgeary: lol |
| 22:59.05 | mgeary | i hear these boneheads talk about "shoving all this global warming off their driveways" and i just wanna smack them |
| 22:59.27 | SunSparc | It's Friday, thought we could have some global warming fun. |
| 22:59.36 | SunSparc | Hehe |
| 22:59.49 | SunSparc | Yeah, I did a bit of global warming shoveling today. |
| 23:00.16 | SunSparc | ~lart mgeary |
| 23:00.16 | jbot | accelerates a free AOL cd to 50,000 rpm and lets mgeary feel it |
| 23:00.29 | mgeary | cold weather does in no way dilute the evidence of global warming |
| 23:00.30 | SunSparc | ~global warming mgeary |
| 23:00.37 | mgeary | and yes, i know you're kidding, SunSparc |
| 23:00.45 | SunSparc | ;) |
| 23:02.35 | DexterTheDragon | so if cold weather doesn't disprove global warming, why does hot weather prove it? |
| 23:02.44 | SunSparc | hehe |
| 23:02.50 | SunSparc | Yeah, more more more!!! |
| 23:03.03 | mgeary | i didn't say it did |
| 23:03.15 | SunSparc | Long live the Dole |
| 23:08.38 | mgeary | Long Live Bob Dole? |
| 23:10.44 | mgeary | hey, does anyone have experience with the SPL file functions failing on files > 2GB? |
| 23:11.02 | mgeary | anyone know what it's gonna take to fix that? |
| 23:17.36 | thebigdog | hehe dont use php |
| 23:18.11 | SunSparc | mgeary: I have not used the SPL stuff |
| 23:18.18 | mgeary | thebigdog: heh |
| 23:18.21 | SunSparc | ~lart thebigdog |
| 23:18.21 | jbot | overclocks thebigdog until thebigdog burns out |
| 23:18.23 | thebigdog | i doubt that spl can handle files that big |
| 23:18.36 | mgeary | it can't |
| 23:18.45 | mgeary | just didn't know if it was the core PHP binaries or what |
| 23:18.56 | thebigdog | i would think it would be a memory limit issue |
| 23:19.00 | mgeary | right |
| 23:19.04 | mgeary | 32-bit, presumably |
| 23:19.04 | thebigdog | can you do it commandline php |
| 23:19.26 | mgeary | can't try atm, but good question |
| 23:19.45 | mgeary | SunSparc: i was talking to a buddy who recently launched a couple of iphone apps |
| 23:20.03 | mgeary | his background is like mine. Very experienced at non-compiled languages |
| 23:20.16 | mgeary | he said the learning curve to objC was the hardest he's ever dealt with |
| 23:20.17 | mgeary | :/ |
| 23:20.39 | thebigdog | hehe |
| 23:20.59 | SunSparc | mgeary: Good to know. I like a good challenge. |
| 23:21.08 | thebigdog | well it is a compiled object language |
| 23:21.16 | thebigdog | so it is very different if you are just doing script stuff |
| 23:21.26 | mgeary | yeah |
| 23:21.29 | thebigdog | or should i say strong typed |
| 23:21.49 | mgeary | well, i don't think the typing is as big a deal as memory management, though they're related, of course |
| 23:21.59 | mgeary | strong typing can be very handy for debugging |
| 23:22.08 | mgeary | but garbage collection is a godsend |
| 23:22.20 | thebigdog | strong typed is good for compiling |
| 23:22.25 | mgeary | yeah |
| 23:22.40 | thebigdog | GC is really good |
| 23:23.58 | SunSparc | Recycling is more environmentally friendly than plain old Garbage Collection. |
| 23:24.51 | thebigdog | mgeary, make sure you have lfs on your linux for large files |
| 23:24.54 | thebigdog | that might be your issue |
| 23:25.16 | mgeary | what's lfs? |
| 23:25.27 | thebigdog | large file supprot |
| 23:25.29 | thebigdog | support |
| 23:25.35 | mgeary | at what level is it installed? |
| 23:25.44 | thebigdog | kernel |
| 23:25.49 | mgeary | how do i check? |
| 23:26.15 | thebigdog | grab your mouse, turn it over and say "Computer...Computer" |
| 23:26.24 | mgeary | already tried that |
| 23:26.28 | thebigdog | darn it |
| 23:26.48 | thebigdog | you probably have it in your kernel you on linux or something else |
| 23:27.05 | synic | mgeary: you sure it's not the learning curve that goes from linear to event driven programming? |
| 23:27.15 | synic | because I found ObjC to be very similar to python |
| 23:27.31 | mgeary | synic: absolutely sure in this case. This is a guy with years of Director & Flash programming, which is very event-driven and OOP |
| 23:27.42 | synic | weird |
| 23:27.48 | mgeary | but i don't know that *he* had much python experience |
| 23:28.24 | mgeary | but he's a very sharp guy |
| 23:28.53 | thebigdog | mgeary, what version of php you running? |
| 23:29.15 | thebigdog | op mgeary i hate to tell you this |
| 23:29.16 | mgeary | this is my buddy's site for his apps: http://www.puzzoodle.com/ |
| 23:29.28 | mgeary | thebigdog: ? |
| 23:29.35 | mgeary | running 5.2.x |
| 23:30.46 | thebigdog | lfs support in php is slated for php6 |
| 23:31.01 | mgeary | heh |
| 23:31.04 | mgeary | not a huge deal |
| 23:31.06 | DexterTheDragon | eeeewww php 6 |
| 23:31.10 | mgeary | yeah |
| 23:31.20 | mgeary | i'd love to think that php6 for me will be django ;) |
| 23:31.50 | synic | awh yeah |
| 23:32.01 | synic | ~django++ |
| 23:32.02 | mgeary | ^5 synic |
| 23:32.06 | synic | ^5 |
| 23:36.17 | carmony | although I wish it would allow for more Type-Hinting |
| 23:39.33 | mgeary | i don't dislike PHP |
| 23:39.44 | mgeary | but python is better |
| 23:39.46 | synic | I dislike PHP, haha. |
| 23:40.06 | mgeary | synic: have you gone through the Python Challenge? |
| 23:40.18 | synic | no |
| 23:40.23 | mgeary | it's fun |
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| 23:44.53 | mgeary | http://www.pythonchallenge.com/ |
| 23:48.02 | orsonj | interesting |
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| 23:59.22 | SunSparc | CoD4 time! Happy weekend all! Drive safe! |
