| 00:00.32 | Utah_Dave | mindjuju: cool. I'm at 96% on the TF2 download |
| 00:00.46 | Utah_Dave | 7:ish will probably work out pretty well |
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| 01:55.39 | mindjuju | ugh, i hate itunes |
| 02:24.48 | herlo | mindjuju: fo sho |
| 02:25.17 | mindjuju | lucky me, i've got sun virtualbox |
| 02:25.32 | mindjuju | i'm just setting up a baseline install vm and going to duplicate it for times like this |
| 02:25.44 | mindjuju | where i don't want to junk up my OS just to install itunes |
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| 14:58.54 | Utah_Dave | mindjuju: I played my first few games of TF2 last night |
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| 15:02.48 | thebigdog | let it snow |
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| 15:13.10 | carmony | how did you like it Utah_Dave? |
| 15:19.29 | Utah_Dave | It was OK. It felt exactly like some other game, except cartoonish |
| 15:19.41 | Utah_Dave | What was the name of the other one? |
| 15:21.38 | carmony | Call of Duty 4? Half-Life 2? |
| 15:21.48 | Utah_Dave | maybe it was Half-Life. |
| 15:22.18 | Utah_Dave | you know, run around shooting, get killed, run around shooting, get killed, repeat ad nauseum |
| 15:22.23 | Utah_Dave | :) |
| 15:22.51 | Utah_Dave | mindjuju: said he was going to teach me how to not play like a noob. So we'll see |
| 15:24.22 | carmony | lol, what class did you play as? |
| 15:26.24 | Utah_Dave | I tried sniper and got my butt kicked |
| 15:26.33 | Utah_Dave | Then I tried the Heavy character for a while |
| 15:26.38 | Utah_Dave | That was a little more fun. |
| 15:36.06 | carmony | The pyro can be fun |
| 15:36.11 | carmony | and same with the soldier |
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| 16:03.19 | mgeary | whoo-ee |
| 16:03.23 | mgeary | ~snowy |
| 16:11.49 | Utah_Dave | carmony: I'll give them a try |
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| 16:23.26 | mindjuju | snow ... bah! |
| 16:23.51 | carmony | lol |
| 16:23.57 | carmony | you don't like snow? |
| 16:24.28 | mindjuju | nope |
| 16:24.42 | mindjuju | i'd rather be in Bora Bora |
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| 16:27.27 | jsmith | Send some snow my direction! |
| 16:27.36 | fungus | This snow stinks. |
| 16:27.56 | fungus | Took me 35 min to get to work, normally only 12 |
| 16:29.12 | fungus | I got lots, and I will share. Just come and take whatever you want. |
| 16:29.29 | mindjuju | i'm still at home, refuse to drive in snow / snow traffic |
| 16:29.38 | mindjuju | meh, i'll leave here in an hour or so |
| 16:30.20 | SunSparc | I would have stayed home to work but I forgot my power supply at work. :( |
| 16:30.29 | mindjuju | yipes! |
| 16:30.35 | SunSparc | I don't trust other people to drive safe around me. |
| 16:30.45 | SunSparc | ~snow |
| 16:30.46 | jbot | somebody said snow was cold, or white, or comes down in flakes, or cocaine |
| 16:31.02 | mgeary | bah |
| 16:31.16 | SunSparc | jbot, snow is also something you visit not live in |
| 16:31.17 | jbot | ACTION gets a bunch of white paper dots and shreds and flies over is also something you visit not live in in a helicopter, dropping them incessantly |
| 16:31.34 | mgeary | i got up at 5am, shoveled my own and 2 other driveways, then got the kids ready for school and such, and by the time i left, i had another 4 inches on my driveway |
| 16:31.46 | mgeary | though i do love snow |
| 16:31.54 | mgeary | just not on driveways |
| 16:52.32 | carmony | SunSparc, remember how I was telling you about that upload photo problem I was having?> |
| 16:53.20 | SunSparc | Yeah |
| 16:54.09 | carmony | you're gonna die when you hear what the problem was |
| 16:54.11 | carmony | ready? |
| 16:54.17 | carmony | they were iPhone users |
| 16:54.25 | SunSparc | hehe |
| 16:54.26 | SunSparc | :) |
| 16:54.49 | carmony | Turns out, they can't upload photos, so they would go the page, and see that the upload field was grayed out, BUT the submit was still available. |
| 16:55.06 | carmony | So they would hit the submit button, nothing, and then ready about how they need to email us |
| 16:55.09 | carmony | to upload it |
| 16:55.15 | carmony | So they would send the picture to us |
| 16:55.32 | carmony | and what do you know? its named photo.jpg, cause that is what the iPhone sends images as |
| 16:55.58 | carmony | 3 hours of debugging, reading over and over the code, checking to see if something was wrong in the tmp dir... |
| 16:56.00 | carmony | bah :P |
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| 17:12.01 | unum | ok php grurus let's say given a date how would you determine the beginning and end of a two week interval that contains that date |
| 17:12.42 | unum | so let's say your pay period began last friday (dec 12th) and ends on christmas (dec 25th) |
| 17:13.17 | unum | and I give you a date(sept 3rd) what would your code look like to find the pay period for that date |
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| 17:13.22 | SunSparc | carmony: Good job figuring that out. |
| 17:16.39 | Utah_Dave | unum: We had to deal with that kind of a thing in an app. Let me go look and see what we did |
| 17:18.56 | jsmith | unum: You've got to give more information... *which* two-week interval containing that date do you want? |
| 17:19.38 | jsmith | unum: Do weeks start on Sunday? Monday? How do we know whether the week before that date or the week after that date is part of the same pay period? |
| 17:21.16 | unum | 12:12 < unum> so let's say your pay period began last friday (dec 12th) and ends on christmas (dec 25th) |
| 17:25.30 | Utah_Dave | unum: I think we figured out that the paydays always landed on even weeks for this year, then they alternate odd / even weeks every year |
| 17:25.43 | Utah_Dave | something like that |
| 17:25.57 | unum | Utah_Dave: thanks |
| 17:26.11 | carmony | holy crap, no wonder our server is tanking. There was a bug calculating the expiration of cached data, and it was always return it was out of date. |
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| 17:50.12 | brasto | did eggyknap answer your question mindjuju? |
| 17:50.38 | brasto | I just noticed your ping from half-a-day ago |
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| 18:03.32 | itimber | sup my brotha's |
| 18:03.46 | carmony | hey itimber |
| 18:04.16 | itimber | got a quick terminal question, if you guys don't mind |
| 18:04.29 | itimber | I'm looking for a simple command to zip a dir |
| 18:04.43 | itimber | but I want it to make a copy, and zip the folder as one file |
| 18:05.06 | itimber | so, more than just gzip -R <dir> |
| 18:10.00 | carmony | I'm not a terminal guru, so I'm not really sure |
| 18:10.32 | itimber | no prob |
| 18:13.49 | mgeary | i've got that somewhere here |
| 18:16.13 | mgeary | is using zip okay? as opposed to gzip? |
| 18:16.43 | mgeary | also, i'm assuming you've rejected tar -czvf <file>.tgz <directory> for some valid reason? |
| 18:18.46 | mgeary | if zip works, you can do: |
| 18:18.58 | mgeary | zip -r <file>.zip /path/to/directory |
| 18:25.33 | itimber | got a guy asking for zip specifically |
| 18:25.40 | itimber | *shrug |
| 18:27.36 | itimber | will try both... thx man |
| 18:31.22 | itimber | client can handle tar, just didn't know it.... and that worked brilliantly |
| 18:31.24 | itimber | thanks man |
| 18:34.00 | mgeary | cool |
| 18:39.04 | brasto | itimber - refuse to support anyone that only accepts zip files. |
| 18:39.07 | mindjuju | hmmm stocks up 110pts, OPEC cuts oil supply by 2mill barrels and (i think) Al Franken has a 4 vote lead in Minn Senate election |
| 18:39.07 | brasto | :) |
| 18:39.35 | brasto | jk, of course, itimber |
| 18:39.41 | itimber | LOL |
| 18:39.54 | itimber | well... his $$ is flowing my way, not the other way around |
| 18:39.58 | itimber | so *shrug |
| 18:41.38 | brasto | that's the right way for people's $$ to be flowing |
| 18:44.30 | itimber | fo sho |
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| 19:26.11 | mindjuju | proof that Spock and his culture are responsible for death of the dinosaurs ! Live long and prosper -- bah! - http://news.yahoo.com/s/livescience/20081215/sc_livescience/dinosaurkillermayhavebeenvolcanismnotasteroid |
| 19:28.00 | carmony | speaking of Spock... anyone here watch The Big Bang Theory? |
| 19:28.06 | herlo | yes! |
| 19:28.12 | herlo | that was way funny |
| 19:28.22 | carmony | "A napkin?" |
| 19:28.26 | herlo | I know! |
| 19:28.26 | mindjuju | hmmm, my joke didn't earn any laughs |
| 19:28.52 | carmony | sorry! mindjuju: lol :) That was funny :D |
| 19:29.10 | mindjuju | :) |
| 19:29.12 | herlo | mindjuju: uh, it did. You just wouldn't like how we were laughing |
| 19:29.13 | carmony | My wife and I were on the verge of tears from laughing :) |
| 19:29.27 | mindjuju | :) :) |
| 19:29.32 | herlo | yeah, especially when he came out with all the gift baskets |
| 19:29.53 | mindjuju | so what's this about the big bang theory? |
| 19:30.01 | herlo | mindjuju: a tv show |
| 19:30.09 | herlo | it is hilarious |
| 19:30.52 | herlo | http://www.cbs.com/primetime/big_bang_theory/ |
| 19:31.03 | carmony | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mKbnVKdix8 |
| 19:31.54 | herlo | yeah, was going there next :0 |
| 19:58.06 | carmony | I love it when I have a solid PHP class that I can plug into any application and it just works great |
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| 20:27.50 | carmony | woohoo, endless loops! |
| 20:38.03 | jsmith-teaching | carmony: Weren't you just bragging about a "solid PHP class"... guess it wasn't so solid, eh? |
| 20:38.55 | carmony | lol! that was a different class |
| 20:41.01 | carmony | omg.... |
| 20:41.25 | carmony | My wife's professor docked her points for naming her index page index.html isntead of default.html |
| 20:41.44 | herlo | carmony: you should so lart that SOB :) |
| 20:41.59 | mgeary | carmony: holy cow |
| 20:42.10 | mgeary | ~welcome that professor to the real world |
| 20:42.11 | jbot | [all in unison] Hi, that professor to the real world! |
| 20:42.44 | carmony | AND her "back to top" link I had her put <a href="#">Back to Top</a> |
| 20:42.54 | carmony | but aparently that is incorrect |
| 20:45.32 | mgeary | ...waits anxiously for the 'correct' answer |
| 20:46.22 | carmony | I don't know, my wife only txt'd me |
| 20:46.27 | carmony | I have no clue how else you would do it |
| 20:50.40 | herlo | probably <a href="#top">Back to Top</a> and have an <a name="top"></a> |
| 20:50.47 | herlo | or whatever that target is |
| 21:04.15 | mgeary | yeah |
| 21:18.16 | macnewbold | ~zippy |
| 21:19.23 | jsmith-teaching | ~cookie |
| 21:19.39 | herlo | ~barf |
| 21:19.39 | jbot | BLECCH |
| 21:20.03 | mindjuju | ~chuckfact |
| 21:20.04 | jbot | There is no chin under Chuck Norris Beard. There is only another fist |
| 21:20.10 | mindjuju | ah, very true |
| 21:21.50 | carmony | ~chuckslow |
| 21:21.51 | carmony | :P |
| 21:22.02 | carmony | oh, I thought you did chuckfast |
| 21:22.03 | carmony | :P |
| 21:23.28 | mindjuju | psh |
| 21:29.31 | Utah_Dave | I'm trying to figure out how to do a join on 2 tables that have a WorkOrderID field in common. I want to return all the columns for both tables where there is a match. |
| 21:29.54 | Utah_Dave | I'm using MySQL 5.0.27 |
| 21:30.08 | jsmith-teaching | Utah_Dave: SELECT * FROM table1 JOIN table2 on table1.WorkOrderID = table2.WorkOrderID; |
| 21:30.38 | Utah_Dave | oh,come on. It can't be that easy, can it, jsmith-teaching? |
| 21:30.51 | Utah_Dave | thanks! |
| 21:30.54 | jsmith-teaching | Utah_Dave: Why wouldn't it be easy? |
| 21:31.30 | jsmith-teaching | (You can also do "SELECT * from table1, table2 WHERE table1.WorkOrderID = table2.WorkOrderID", but as I understand it's less efficient) |
| 21:34.39 | Utah_Dave | thanks, jsmith-teaching. that helped a lot |
| 21:35.24 | jsmith-teaching | Always happy to oblige... |
| 21:49.39 | carmony | tired? :P |
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| 22:09.52 | mgeary | joins in where clauses------ |
| 22:10.42 | mindjuju | i didn't know you could do that |
| 22:10.53 | mgeary | it's lazy |
| 22:10.59 | mgeary | and it leads to bad practices |
| 22:11.14 | mgeary | and as soon as your query gets more complex, you have to rewrite it all |
| 22:13.01 | beandog | mgeary, joins in where clauses? |
| 22:13.03 | jsmith-teaching | Absolutely |
| 22:13.29 | mgeary | beandog: "where table1.field = table2.field" |
| 22:13.46 | beandog | oh. |
| 22:13.53 | jsmith-teaching | It's way ugly... but it works |
| 22:14.05 | beandog | thats how I used to do things |
| 22:14.11 | beandog | back before joins would warp my brain. |
| 22:14.34 | jsmith-teaching | beandog: But now you're a real man, and JOINs don't scare you in the slightest! |
| 22:14.52 | beandog | I still avoid them when I can do a subselect |
| 22:15.06 | beandog | depends how ambitious Im feeling |
| 22:15.51 | beandog | its not always easy writing correct SQL |
| 22:15.58 | beandog | but definately worth it. |
| 23:18.57 | carmony | anyone know the php ini setting to restrict an php app to a certain folder? |
| 23:25.33 | mgeary | carmony: base_dir or something like that |
| 23:25.40 | mgeary | but it's really obnoxious |
| 23:25.53 | mgeary | far better to do it in apache |
| 23:25.56 | mgeary | imho |
| 23:26.36 | carmony | I agree |
| 23:26.43 | carmony | I'm trying to remove it :P |
| 23:26.48 | carmony | so I can ue apache to do it |
| 23:26.57 | mgeary | heh |
| 23:27.22 | mgeary | open basedir |
| 23:27.29 | mgeary | open_basedir |
| 23:28.23 | mindjuju | ~lart dumb end users |
| 23:28.23 | jbot | executes killall -TERM dumb end users |
| 23:31.06 | mindjuju | course though, is the fact that dumb end users exist a sign of poor usability testing or QA ? |
| 23:43.14 | orsonj | http://www.dilbert.com/2008-12-10/ I doubt this is related, but it makes me smile |
| 23:44.47 | mindjuju | that's awesome |
| 23:45.29 | orsonj | ~give mindjuju a hard candy |
| 23:45.30 | jbot | ACTION gives a hard candy to mindjuju |
| 23:46.33 | mindjuju | thx! Chinese food may be tasty, but is hard on the breath |
| 23:46.45 | mindjuju | i've already had a peppermint though, so that should fix it up at least partway |
| 23:49.16 | mgeary | ~stinky mindjuju |
| 23:49.17 | jbot | ACTION throws mindjuju into the shower and scrubs vigorously with Liquid Plumber and a wire brush. "Ewww, i am NOT cleaning the hair from the drain" |
| 23:50.30 | mindjuju | i think we need to make some kind of communication protocol\ |
| 23:50.44 | orsonj | something like XMPP and laconica |
| 23:51.05 | mgeary | ~seen dataw0lf |
| 23:51.06 | jbot | dataw0lf is currently on #uphpu, last said: 'win 6'. |
| 23:51.54 | mindjuju | that would encompass ALL of the chat variations (AIM, YIM, MSN,) + RSS + kitchen sink + N |
| 23:52.03 | mindjuju | so that it can all be piped into pidgin |
| 23:53.30 | orsonj | ~pidgin++ |
| 23:53.55 | mindjuju | fo sho |
| 23:54.55 | orsonj | I need to figure out how to have irssi running in the background on some computer so I can have backlog, but be able to connect to it using either irssi or pidgin, depending on what I'm needing. |
| 23:55.41 | mindjuju | why can't you just have your laptop vpn into work where your work computer is left on at all times? |
| 23:55.57 | mindjuju | and have pidgin running on it |
| 23:56.40 | orsonj | I have irssi running on my work computer 24/7 with screen, but pidgin is awesome also |
| 23:58.15 | orsonj | later |
| 23:58.54 | mindjuju | later |