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| 03:24.18 | thebigdog | evening all you guys |
| 03:28.18 | thebigdog | man i hate using gmail |
| 03:31.06 | mindjuju | gmail isn't bad |
| 03:31.37 | mindjuju | in fact, usually the only problem with gmail is ID 10 T |
| 03:31.44 | mindjuju | :) |
| 03:33.24 | thebigdog | ty mindjuju |
| 03:33.27 | thebigdog | that was funny |
| 03:33.35 | thebigdog | i hate imap with gmail |
| 03:33.37 | thebigdog | it sucks |
| 03:33.41 | thebigdog | and it always messed up |
| 03:36.54 | DexterTheDragon | ~gmail-- |
| 03:37.33 | mindjuju | is there a better internet based email? (not including your own email server) |
| 03:38.17 | DexterTheDragon | not that I know of |
| 03:39.11 | mindjuju | :) |
| 03:39.42 | mindjuju | ugh, i'm designing a website and it looks decent, but not great |
| 03:39.52 | mindjuju | i need to finish and get critique |
| 03:46.03 | carmony_ | sounds like fun mindjuju |
| 03:47.06 | carmony_ | I need an idea for something to blog about :P |
| 03:47.11 | thebigdog | mindjuju, my email server is the bomb....diggy yo |
| 03:47.26 | thebigdog | carmony_, you can always blog about thebigdog!!!! |
| 03:47.58 | thebigdog | i need to start blogging |
| 03:48.08 | thebigdog | man i use to write tons |
| 03:48.15 | thebigdog | but i did get $$$$ for it too |
| 03:48.30 | carmony_ | how did you get money for it? |
| 03:53.29 | thebigdog | hehe i use to write articles for websites |
| 03:53.34 | thebigdog | and they paid me money |
| 03:54.22 | carmony_ | that'd be pretty cool |
| 03:54.39 | carmony_ | I think I'm going to put together a nice article on using memcached |
| 03:54.46 | carmony_ | since I know nothing about it, but I want to learn :P |
| 03:55.29 | thebigdog | hehe |
| 03:59.59 | carmony_ | well, I'm heading off for the night |
| 04:16.52 | thebigdog | slacker |
| 04:17.05 | thebigdog | man i got to hit a meeting in orem tomorrow |
| 04:19.47 | thebigdog | man i love doing installs over the internet...makes life so much easier |
| 04:20.53 | herlo | thebigdog: where when? |
| 04:21.25 | thebigdog | i will be 130 west center street |
| 04:21.43 | thebigdog | around 8am |
| 04:21.51 | thebigdog | not sure how long it will take though |
| 04:22.01 | thebigdog | i am hoping about couple hours though |
| 04:22.12 | thebigdog | i dont want to be there past noon |
| 04:22.35 | mindjuju | well we don't want you here that long either |
| 04:22.39 | mindjuju | ;) |
| 04:22.45 | thebigdog | all righty then |
| 04:23.43 | thebigdog | herlo you have an interview down there? |
| 04:25.30 | herlo | thebigdog: sort of, going to meet with someone about starting a company |
| 04:25.38 | thebigdog | oh nice |
| 04:25.57 | herlo | but if you have any side jobs for me, I'm looking, hint, hint... |
| 04:30.46 | thebigdog | ok i will note that on your account |
| 04:31.35 | thebigdog | wow i just realized that mobile phone carriers have sms to email gateways |
| 04:37.27 | herlo | hehe, that's funny |
| 04:37.35 | herlo | those have been around for years |
| 04:38.17 | thebigdog | yeah from email to sms...but the other way i have never heard of them doing it via sms |
| 04:39.08 | herlo | from sms to email? |
| 04:39.13 | herlo | yeah, that's not new |
| 04:39.26 | herlo | it's just not common |
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| 16:34.38 | mindjuju | it's amazing how when you find a way to save the company $200 a month, everybody props it up as their own -- taking credit, and then wait for you to do the magic |
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| 16:38.55 | fungus | If they are in a management position, it's normal. It's kind of their job too. |
| 16:39.05 | mindjuju | pish posh |
| 16:39.18 | _psychic_ | it's the opposite |
| 16:39.24 | _psychic_ | if you're in management, make your team shine |
| 16:39.29 | mindjuju | yup |
| 16:39.50 | mindjuju | i would always use my padawan's name for projects he launched and succeeded at |
| 16:40.03 | mindjuju | even if I provided tech experience to the project |
| 16:40.48 | mindjuju | you get far better work out of them if they know they can trust you |
| 16:49.02 | unum | my manager was great about giving us credit |
| 16:50.04 | fungus | Oh, well... that is the "right" thing to do. |
| 16:55.25 | carmony | I've never been burned once when I gave credit where credit was due |
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| 17:02.32 | carmony | I love trac, trac, trac... oh yes I do, do, do.... its so great, great, great.... through and through, through, through..... ;) |
| 17:03.10 | mindjuju | i prefer haiku |
| 17:05.46 | carmony | lol |
| 17:08.07 | unum | I need to train my users better |
| 17:08.23 | unum | I had one enter some stuff in trac the other day and he enter five isues into one ticket |
| 17:09.40 | mindjuju | i've found that negative electrical stimulus to training always improves user reception and follow through |
| 17:10.03 | mindjuju | especially at the prospect of retraining for those who still have questions |
| 17:55.48 | olds | trac is nice |
| 17:55.53 | olds | we use fogbugz |
| 18:03.02 | carmony | man, I'm on fire... |
| 18:03.22 | carmony | I knocked out more bug fixes and tickets in 2 hours than the previous developer would do in 2-5 days. |
| 18:04.02 | mindjuju | that's awesome! |
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| 18:21.10 | wps | yes, brasto, I work for the Church now |
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| 18:24.14 | macnewbold | ~yow |
| 18:26.59 | mindjuju | 11:30! Lunch Time! - http://www.asylum.com/2008/12/04/deadliest-dishes-15-delicacies-that-might-kill-you/ |
| 18:32.46 | mgeary | ~miss breakfast |
| 18:32.47 | jbot | ACTION whips a six shooter from her hip and fires just to the right of breakfast. |
| 18:33.54 | mindjuju | mgeary, you should always pack Quaker Insta-Oatmeal(tm) for just such an occassion |
| 18:33.59 | mindjuju | i myself have a box in my desk |
| 18:34.56 | mgeary | or i could just gnaw on this here cardboard. Same diff |
| 18:35.23 | mindjuju | :) |
| 18:35.55 | mindjuju | ~give mgeary a breakfast burrito from Betos with eggs, potatoes and bacon |
| 18:35.56 | jbot | ACTION gives a breakfast burrito from Betos with eggs, potatoes and bacon to mgeary |
| 18:35.56 | mindjuju | yum |
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| 19:26.18 | olds | <@wps> yes, brasto, I work for the Church now |
| 19:26.22 | olds | which church? ;) |
| 19:33.26 | wps | The Church of the Latter-day Dude |
| 19:33.31 | wps | http://www.dudeism.com/ |
| 19:34.37 | wps | (warning: Click around, read a little, laugh, but don't digest it all. There are some inappropriate things in the details on some of the sub pages) |
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| 19:38.27 | itimber | sup my brotha's |
| 19:38.40 | mindjuju | sup yo |
| 19:38.45 | mgeary | ~lart itimber |
| 19:38.45 | jbot | whips out a sword and chops itimber in half |
| 19:40.55 | mgeary | dang straight |
| 19:41.00 | itimber | ~timattack mgeary |
| 19:41.01 | jbot | ACTION get's Ash's chainsaw and starts to chase mgeary! |
| 19:41.10 | itimber | TY jbot |
| 19:41.14 | mgeary | chase != catch |
| 19:41.21 | itimber | jbot thank you |
| 19:41.21 | jbot | my pleasure, itimber |
| 19:41.40 | itimber | ~timattack mgeary |
| 19:41.41 | jbot | ACTION uses a 2 handed log saw and starts to go postal on mgeary! |
| 19:42.01 | itimber | going postal IS LIKE catch |
| 19:42.28 | itimber | s/postal/postal on/ |
| 19:42.45 | mgeary | ...and is very wary of mgeary's dog |
| 19:43.33 | itimber | http://www.ibeatyou.com/competition/a8e8f0/most-creative-homeless-sign |
| 19:45.23 | mindjuju | wow! something must have happened, the stock market jumped from like +$8 --> +$112 |
| 19:45.28 | mindjuju | not that it means anything long term |
| 19:45.32 | mindjuju | but interesting to see |
| 19:46.15 | wps | my stock options are still $16 below the strike price so who cares :( |
| 19:47.06 | mindjuju | sorry to hear |
| 19:47.08 | mindjuju | omniture stocks? |
| 19:47.08 | _psychic_ | You own stock at the Church? ;) |
| 19:47.08 | wps | yeah |
| 19:47.08 | wps | and I only have until Jan to exercise them |
| 19:47.08 | olds | wps: the LDS church has stock? |
| 19:47.08 | olds | damn |
| 19:47.08 | olds | _psychic_ beat me to it |
| 19:47.23 | mindjuju | _psychic_ fingertips are smoking? |
| 19:47.34 | mindjuju | is that like a cig per finger, or just a couple are smoking? |
| 19:47.46 | olds | mmmm cigars |
| 19:48.05 | mindjuju | ah true that, it could be cigars |
| 19:48.18 | mindjuju | hopefully none chew chaw |
| 19:48.39 | olds | Cigars taste nice but they make me woozy |
| 19:48.53 | olds | I don't think I've had one in 4 or 5 years now |
| 19:48.56 | _psychic_ | n. smoking - a visible suspension of carbon particles in the air due to beating the pants of olds in getting to an obvious joke |
| 19:49.13 | olds | srsly |
| 19:49.15 | _psychic_ | s/pants of/pants off/ |
| 19:49.39 | mindjuju | dag, olds, now he's saying your slow and he whopped ya |
| 19:49.41 | mindjuju | dag |
| 19:49.50 | olds | I am slow |
| 19:49.56 | _psychic_ | I didn't say he was slow. |
| 19:50.11 | mindjuju | i know, i was trying to start a fight... sigh |
| 19:50.43 | mindjuju | ah yes, soccer, reminds me of something i saw this morning while checking email |
| 19:51.15 | mindjuju | @ _psychic_ - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KrQAvWJYvI |
| 19:51.48 | _psychic_ | keeper error? |
| 19:51.53 | olds | sick |
| 19:51.55 | olds | yea |
| 19:52.22 | _psychic_ | gutsy though |
| 19:52.28 | _psychic_ | I like it when they take the chance |
| 19:52.33 | olds | yea, not sure I'd think that would ever work |
| 19:53.16 | olds | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2mlM3B3zQ0 |
| 19:53.24 | olds | that requires some skill and focus |
| 19:54.08 | _psychic_ | did he hit it with his heel? |
| 19:55.04 | olds | yea |
| 19:55.08 | olds | scorpion style |
| 19:55.26 | _psychic_ | seems like he just wanted to take advantage of a lousy cross |
| 19:57.56 | mindjuju | curious - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pllj0yUW8k0 |
| 19:58.03 | mindjuju | you may want to turn down the volume |
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| 20:00.04 | olds | nice tip on twitter _psychic_ |
| 20:00.15 | _psychic_ | I liked it |
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| 20:03.27 | SunSparc | _psychic_ and olds, there is also the "Show Path Bar" option in the Finder's View menu. |
| 20:05.06 | olds | I like the path better |
| 20:05.10 | olds | *shrug* |
| 20:05.14 | _psychic_ | (me too) |
| 20:16.19 | mgeary | did i miss a thread? what path are you referring to, olds ? |
| 20:17.37 | mindjuju | mgeary, something on twitter |
| 20:17.42 | mindjuju | but i'm not cool enough to know |
| 20:17.51 | mindjuju | (1:00:08 PM) olds: nice tip on twitter _psychic_ |
| 20:17.58 | mindjuju | (1:00:40 PM) ***_psychic_ wonders how many other uphpu'ers are Cool People⢠on twitter |
| 20:19.28 | SunSparc | ~cool mgeary |
| 20:19.29 | jbot | ACTION takes out a fan to wave over mgeary but decides to beat mgeary with it instead |
| 20:19.30 | _psychic_ | DexterTheDragon is cool |
| 20:19.34 | _psychic_ | SunSparc is cool |
| 20:19.40 | SunSparc | Woot! |
| 20:19.46 | DexterTheDragon | YAY! |
| 20:19.49 | _psychic_ | Join the Dark Side⢠you two. We have cookies. |
| 20:20.03 | SunSparc | lol, chocolate chip |
| 20:20.05 | mindjuju | how do we join? |
| 20:20.15 | DexterTheDragon | start using cakephp |
| 20:20.30 | mindjuju | hey, i donwloaded it the other day |
| 20:20.31 | SunSparc | And twitter |
| 20:20.32 | SunSparc | http://twitter.com/ |
| 20:20.56 | mindjuju | k, i'm at twitter.com and I see a bird |
| 20:21.01 | mindjuju | am i cool now? |
| 20:21.15 | DexterTheDragon | almost |
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| 20:51.02 | mgeary | thebigdog: ? |
| 20:55.10 | SunSparc | ~lart thebigdog |
| 20:55.10 | jbot | calls thebigdog on the phone ... the lights are on but nobody's home |
| 20:55.54 | mgeary | well, we all knew THAT |
| 21:00.46 | thebigdog | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oshZxqmd04k |
| 21:32.04 | synic | python-mechanize ftw |
| 21:32.18 | mgeary | beautifulSoup ftw |
| 21:32.59 | mgeary | synic: i've used twill a fair bit, but not mechanize. Got any experience on the diff? |
| 21:33.04 | mgeary | twill is pretty nice |
| 21:33.16 | synic | I haven't used twill |
| 21:33.44 | synic | seems like I heard one is based on the other, but that could be wrong |
| 21:33.55 | mgeary | well, i think they're both based on perl's mechanize |
| 21:34.12 | mgeary | twill may be more testing-centric |
| 21:34.26 | mgeary | you can do assertions that a page does/n't contain a text string |
| 21:35.56 | synic | hrmm, yeah, they look kinda similar |
| 21:36.25 | synic | mechanize you can "click" links that match a certain text, regex, get the result page, fill out form fields, etc |
| 21:36.45 | mgeary | nice |
| 21:36.49 | mgeary | twill is similar |
| 21:58.53 | olds | so awkward when someone cleans out their desk after they've been let go |
| 21:59.28 | synic | yeah |
| 22:01.06 | SunSparc | Unless there is some cool stuff in the desk and they give it to you. |
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| 22:09.57 | synic | yeah, a few days later is when everyone claims all the good computer components |
| 22:10.02 | synic | "I got his video card!" |
| 22:10.33 | carmony_ | I remember one time we let this guy go.... |
| 22:10.39 | carmony_ | he had such a serious temper |
| 22:11.02 | carmony_ | they packed his desk |
| 22:11.31 | carmony_ | for him, and hid anything sharp in the building |
| 22:13.35 | carmony_ | they were really scared laying him off he would get violent |
| 22:14.11 | unum | nobody even bothers to tell me to delete the account when we fire someone.... |
| 22:14.19 | unum | most of the time anyways |
| 22:14.34 | SunSparc | Too many companies are lax about that. |
| 22:15.19 | unum | we suffer from a "I wouldn't know how to anything bad with the account" mentality |
| 22:18.35 | olds | synic: it took 10 minutes for us to swoop in and take the monitors |
| 22:19.06 | synic | olds: hehe |
| 22:28.35 | wps_ | unum, I have been _very_ surprised at how many ex-employers have not disabled my access after leaving |
| 22:28.37 | fungus | lol, we shut people off so fast here, they sometimes complain about doing it too soon. |
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| 22:30.40 | unum | my monitors would go |
| 22:30.56 | unum | my shiny new computer would probably go pretty fast, but my accounts.... |
| 22:31.13 | unum | they would probably shut mine off, just because I'm me, but I doubt they would get all of them |
| 22:31.45 | unum | here let me pull up a line from a conversation I was having about a half hour ago |
| 22:31.47 | wps | my equipment at Omniture was pillaged pretty fast (dual 24"-ers and a MacPro) |
| 22:32.02 | fungus | Yeah, any person with knowledge of root passwords and such are really hard to get completely locked out |
| 22:32.02 | unum | minimize, stay up to date, don't distribute passwords |
| 22:32.14 | unum | three basic rules of security that we do not follow |
| 22:32.36 | wps | where do you work, unum? |
| 22:32.48 | unum | venture data llc |
| 22:32.54 | unum | you're not going to hack us now are you |
| 22:32.59 | fungus | wps hax0rs unum's company |
| 22:33.00 | wps | already done |
| 22:33.02 | unum | though it would probably be good for us..... |
| 22:33.09 | wps | :) |
| 22:33.39 | unum | did you come in through the six year old sendmail install |
| 22:33.45 | wps | yup |
| 22:33.50 | wps | check this out |
| 22:33.51 | wps | http://www.core77.com/blog/object_culture/iphone_case_enables_the_blind_to_access_touchscreens_11982.asp |
| 22:33.54 | wps | brail iPhone |
| 22:34.08 | wps | it's a case that enables blind people to use the touch screen |
| 22:34.22 | wps | very cool |
| 22:34.58 | wps | oops, I guess that would be "braille" |
| 22:36.17 | unum | Red Hat Enterprise Linux ES release 3 (Taroon Update 4) |
| 22:36.30 | wps | wow |
| 22:36.36 | unum | it actually says Jan 2005 on the kernel |
| 22:36.41 | wps | I just read that 1 in 10 US mortgages are in trouble |
| 22:36.41 | unum | that's newer than I thought |
| 22:37.17 | wps | I can't believe how poorly people manage their money and how far people live beyond their means |
| 22:38.11 | unum | I need to sit down and work out a budget |
| 22:38.19 | unum | and stick to it |
| 22:39.34 | mgeary | wps: the next killer app will be some sort of electro-static surface that can be raised and lowered at the pixel level on a mobile device |
| 22:39.45 | mgeary | that'd be soooo cool on an iphone |
| 22:39.50 | wps | indeed |
| 22:39.52 | mgeary | dynamic tactile feedback |
| 22:40.08 | mgeary | feel the borders between the letters on the keyboard |
| 22:40.11 | mgeary | i'd love that |
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| 22:43.34 | itimber | wps: that link isn't showing it's images now |
| 22:44.22 | wps | strangeâ¦Â it's loading find for me |
| 22:44.46 | itimber | probably cached..... found this: http://cultofmac.com/touch-and-go-tactile-iphone-case-for-sight-impaired/5341 |
| 22:46.38 | josephscott | wps didn't you work at omniture? |
| 22:46.44 | wps | used to |
| 22:46.56 | fungus | dude! Python 3.0 released. |
| 22:47.14 | mgeary | ~welcomeToYesterday fungus |
| 22:47.23 | fungus | lol, thank you. |
| 22:47.25 | josephscott | wps: saw this http://northtemple.com/2008/12/05/emtype-a-small-foundry-in and figured you'd must have moved :-) |
| 22:47.45 | wps | yup |
| 22:48.09 | fungus | How much worse does this new major python release make Perl6 look? |
| 22:48.18 | wps | that's why I have been MIA from IRC for the past two months |
| 22:48.25 | wps | it's not allowed through the firewall :( |
| 22:48.39 | wps | I'm working from home today |
| 22:48.54 | wps | we have the day off in honor of Elder Wirthlin's passing |
| 22:49.13 | DexterTheDragon | is perl6 still in development? |
| 22:49.36 | fungus | lol, of course. perpetual development. |
| 22:49.39 | DexterTheDragon | like duke nukem is? |
| 22:49.45 | fungus | yup |
| 22:49.53 | josephscott | perl6 only exists in Larry's mind |
| 22:50.03 | fungus | don't say that in #utah though. You'll get lynched |
| 22:50.12 | DexterTheDragon | perl6: the duke nukem of programming languages |
| 22:50.30 | josephscott | dude, I like perl as much as the next guy, but perl6 pretty much missed it's chance |
| 22:50.36 | wps | it'd doesn't matter what you say in front of PLUGâ¦Â you'll still get jumped |
| 22:50.44 | fungus | lol |
| 22:50.49 | mgeary | i'm the next guy, and i don't like perl at all |
| 22:51.08 | fungus | Yeah, I use perl daily, but it's an endangered species |
| 22:52.35 | josephscott | it's been a number of years since I wrote any perl code, but there was a time when it was a life saver |
| 22:53.51 | fungus | Yes, still the best text processing and quick, one-off script language |
| 23:02.48 | carmony_ | I remember the good old days of BASIC :) |
| 23:04.46 | olds | <@fungus> lol, we shut people off so fast here, they sometimes complain about doing it too soon. |
| 23:05.10 | olds | our team gets an email from the secretary just as they're being pulled into the conference room for their notice |
| 23:05.31 | olds | and so when they come out, everything is already off, all passwords changed |
| 23:11.07 | itimber | anyone have a Symbian OS phone? |
| 23:11.15 | itimber | how's it handle websites? |
| 23:11.40 | itimber | anyone developed Symbian OS apps?? |
| 23:16.52 | carmony_ | I have an iPhone :P |
| 23:20.52 | herlo | so! |
| 23:20.55 | carmony_ | lol |
| 23:22.08 | carmony_ | so... I'm thinking about picking up Python. Is it good for running a service? (a continuously running app) |
| 23:22.18 | synic | yes |
| 23:22.49 | tierra | heh, banned from AppleNova forums for posting about Phoenix on Mac OS X... |
| 23:25.19 | itimber | geez |
| 23:25.23 | itimber | sucks tierra |
| 23:25.25 | tierra | it's not like I posted VIAGRA!, CIALIS! in there... it was a good intentioned, non-automated post where I left my full name and everything |
| 23:25.47 | tierra | but I didn't expect at least 2 of the 4 forums I posted in to ban me, but I don't care either way |
| 23:25.54 | tierra | er, s/didn't/did |
| 23:26.05 | tierra | so far it's just 1 of 4 |
| 23:26.31 | itimber | you should contest it.... they'll probably reconsider |
| 23:26.47 | tierra | not sure if I can contest it |
| 23:27.57 | herlo | carmony_: django ftw! |
| 23:28.24 | carmony_ | well, I'm in love with PHP as a web front end |
| 23:28.33 | itimber | http://forums.applenova.com/showgroups.php?s=4d6616d5af57af1e176ac25ce0a65f7a |
| 23:28.52 | itimber | get chatty with one of them... I bet you'll be allowed |
| 23:29.24 | mgeary | carmony: python is teh bomb |
| 23:30.30 | itimber | tierra: have you posted to Apple.com? |
| 23:30.36 | carmony_ | I'm just fond of the PHP/C#/Java type of syntax. The {} and ; I usually use Java for a backend, but I'm thinking about doing Python instead |
| 23:31.06 | tierra | itimber: it's not an official Apple forum |
| 23:31.30 | tierra | I don't really care though, I don't ever plan on posting there again |
| 23:31.39 | itimber | oh no... I mean, posting Phoenix to the apple.com software list |
| 23:31.50 | tierra | oh, yeah, I already did that a couple days ago |
| 23:31.55 | itimber | ah, cool |
| 23:32.11 | tierra | it's already up on versiontracker.com too |
| 23:32.17 | itimber | right on |
| 23:32.23 | tierra | http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/10905182 |
| 23:32.24 | itimber | hope it does well for ya |
| 23:32.50 | synic | carmony_: get over it. The {} and ; syntax is stupid once you get used to python. |
| 23:33.06 | synic | :D |
| 23:33.13 | carmony_ | lol, I know, I know.... I'm just stuborn! : |
| 23:39.28 | itimber | k, I'm out guys.... catch ya'll later |
| 23:47.33 | _psychic_ | ~lart SunSparc for sabotage |
| 23:47.33 | jbot | executes killall -KILL SunSparc for sabotage |
| 23:47.33 | herlo | yay, 5 minutes until Fedora 10 install server can be setup, copying ISOs |
| 23:47.35 | SunSparc | hehe |
| 23:47.43 | _psychic_ | there we go |
| 23:47.57 | _psychic_ | variety is the spice of life |
| 23:48.08 | _psychic_ | mister c4. |
| 23:48.18 | SunSparc | True, we should sabotage on more than one map |
| 23:48.19 | SunSparc | ;) |
| 23:48.23 | SunSparc | lol |
| 23:48.31 | SunSparc | C4 blows |
| 23:48.49 | _psychic_ | hehe |
| 23:49.35 | mgeary | http://projecteuler.net/ |
| 23:49.38 | SunSparc | Of course, I should call you a kettle, nade boy |
| 23:49.47 | mgeary | i challenge you all to Project Euler |
| 23:50.24 | _psychic_ | what's the point? |
| 23:50.31 | SunSparc | Hmm, sounds interesting, tell me more. |
| 23:50.36 | mgeary | l33t math skillz |
| 23:50.48 | mgeary | e.g. |
| 23:51.07 | mgeary | http://projecteuler.net/index.php?section=problems&id=45 |
| 23:51.21 | mgeary | here's an easier one: http://projecteuler.net/index.php?section=problems&id=36 |
| 23:53.46 | SunSparc | Wow, that looks like fun... |
| 23:53.52 | SunSparc | Yet time intensive. |
| 23:56.27 | mgeary | very satisfying when you get an answer |
| 23:56.36 | mgeary | and you then get access to the forum for that project |
| 23:56.41 | mgeary | where you can compare your approach with others |
| 23:56.49 | SunSparc | bookmarked |
| 23:57.01 | _psychic_ | it'd be interesting to start something like this and publish all the answers |
| 23:57.07 | _psychic_ | but use more practical problems |
| 23:57.17 | _psychic_ | that way it's sort of like open source snippets |
| 23:57.27 | _psychic_ | and algorithms |
| 23:58.11 | SunSparc | Let's talk about it more later. I need to get my fix. Restarting... |