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| 00:04.26 | _psychic_ | 69 == B ? |
| 00:05.59 | SunSparc | Clever no? |
| 00:06.02 | SunSparc | CoD4 time! |
| 00:10.30 | beandog | aww, Im only 65% |
| 00:10.37 | beandog | I was going for "flee for your lives" |
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| 00:38.33 | mgeary | a "don't help me at ALL" flag |
| 00:38.39 | beandog | heh |
| 00:38.41 | beandog | srsly |
| 00:40.26 | mgeary | hey you OS X users, any good tips on expanding a self-extracting EXE file without launching virtual windows? |
| 00:40.36 | beandog | unzip it |
| 00:40.39 | beandog | should work |
| 00:40.46 | beandog | works on linux |
| 00:40.59 | mgeary | Archive Helper doesn't like it, but i'll try CLI-unzipping |
| 00:41.23 | mgeary | yeah, unzip works |
| 00:41.23 | mgeary | thanks |
| 00:41.39 | unum | doesn't "" work for literal searches |
| 00:41.41 | mgeary | any suggestions on how to have it create a folder before unpacking? |
| 00:41.47 | mgeary | unum: only sort of |
| 00:41.48 | beandog | unum, even then they try to "help" |
| 00:41.54 | beandog | like if you do ... uh |
| 00:42.01 | unum | they'll drop some words still won't they |
| 00:42.01 | beandog | "blah php" |
| 00:42.05 | beandog | it'll search on .php |
| 00:42.24 | beandog | so you'll get results where the filename is .php |
| 00:43.17 | mgeary | yes, punctuation is a sore spot |
| 00:43.57 | mgeary | searching for "name: michael" returns many hits of "name michael" |
| 00:49.16 | unum | that's right I remember now. |
| 01:00.21 | beandog | hmm |
| 01:00.28 | beandog | Im not sure how I feel about the new youtube apsect ratio. |
| 01:07.29 | herlo | beandog: what do you mean? |
| 01:07.40 | herlo | did they change it to 16:9 or something? |
| 01:08.09 | beandog | yah |
| 01:08.24 | herlo | oh |
| 01:08.34 | beandog | black bars for everyone |
| 01:08.35 | herlo | for everything? |
| 01:08.39 | beandog | yah |
| 01:09.12 | herlo | nowai! |
| 01:09.42 | beandog | wai |
| 01:10.14 | herlo | hmm |
| 01:11.14 | beandog | it wouldnt bother me if they just stretched it all by default |
| 01:11.21 | beandog | oh well. maybe theres a perference. |
| 01:13.56 | herlo | I only see stretched ones in a new window that's already 16:9, no black lines fo rme |
| 01:14.06 | beandog | really? |
| 01:14.08 | beandog | weird. |
| 01:14.36 | beandog | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFUpa0OwlyU&NR=1 |
| 01:14.38 | beandog | try that one |
| 01:15.26 | herlo | k |
| 01:15.56 | herlo | oh, okay, now I see what you mean |
| 01:16.08 | herlo | I was thinking the bars were going the other way on 4:3 |
| 01:16.14 | herlo | but that's just sill |
| 01:16.15 | herlo | y |
| 01:16.48 | beandog | Im just surprised they didnt stretch it, thats what most widescreen TVs do, so its not like it would seem strange to most people. |
| 01:16.50 | beandog | but, whatever. |
| 01:17.00 | beandog | preserving oar is good too. |
| 01:17.19 | mgeary | later |
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| 01:23.11 | herlo | maybe it was easier to do that |
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| 14:36.23 | SunSparc | Which one is your good eye? |
| 14:36.42 | mindjuju | you know, i don't remember |
| 14:36.47 | mindjuju | i think i's my right eye |
| 14:37.16 | SunSparc | So your body just instinctively uses the "good" one and you don't know which that is. |
| 14:37.28 | SunSparc | :) |
| 14:37.54 | SunSparc | Perhaps it is the one without the patch. |
| 14:38.11 | SunSparc | ARRRH! |
| 14:38.38 | mindjuju | well sure, ask anybody with an astigmatism |
| 14:39.15 | SunSparc | ~pirate mindjuju |
| 14:39.16 | jbot | ACTION illegally downloads mindjuju and shares mindjuju with all his friends |
| 14:39.37 | mindjuju | that's if i remember my optometry correctly |
| 14:40.19 | SunSparc | That is an interesting word to say. Astigmatism. |
| 14:40.36 | mindjuju | i myself try to say it twice daily |
| 14:40.39 | mindjuju | that's the second time |
| 14:40.53 | SunSparc | Good job on meeting your quota. |
| 14:42.02 | mindjuju | do you have equal vision in both eyes? |
| 14:43.47 | SunSparc | Ummmm... |
| 14:43.56 | SunSparc | I think so. |
| 14:44.28 | SunSparc | Last time I was checked I think I had 20/10 or 20/15. |
| 14:44.54 | SunSparc | Not sure what that means though. |
| 14:45.12 | mindjuju | it means you can see at 20 feet what others can see at 10 |
| 14:45.23 | mindjuju | so your vision would be better than normal |
| 14:45.35 | SunSparc | Oh yeah? Hmm, cool. |
| 14:46.12 | SunSparc | Must be because of all the carrots I eat. |
| 14:46.59 | mindjuju | so those guys with coke bottle glasses (super thick) that have vision of 20/300 (like a friend of mine) the person with 20/20 can see something at 300 that he can only see at 20 |
| 14:47.13 | mindjuju | scary |
| 14:47.24 | SunSparc | Wow! |
| 14:47.29 | SunSparc | That is terrible. |
| 14:47.58 | SunSparc | Never thought of it like that. |
| 14:48.28 | SunSparc | Can Lasik fix that? |
| 14:49.04 | mindjuju | you know, i don't know |
| 14:49.10 | mindjuju | never thought to look that up |
| 14:49.57 | SunSparc | These human bodies we wear are pretty amazing things. |
| 14:50.45 | mindjuju | i think lasik can fix my problem, cornea slightly misshaped, (more ovally that circular) in ole lefty |
| 14:51.21 | SunSparc | That is pretty darn cool that we can fix eyes. |
| 14:51.49 | mindjuju | yeah, true that |
| 14:53.14 | mindjuju | i see fairly well, but suck at basketball (depth perception is off a little) but see colors really well (though i can't pick 'em) and by no means a tetrachromat |
| 14:53.42 | SunSparc | ~dict tetrachromat |
| 14:54.22 | mindjuju | ask wiki |
| 14:54.30 | SunSparc | ~wiki tetrachromat |
| 14:54.37 | SunSparc | :) |
| 14:55.20 | mindjuju | in essence, as far as i recall |
| 14:55.30 | mindjuju | your eye has cones and rods inside |
| 14:55.35 | SunSparc | Fascinating |
| 14:55.42 | mindjuju | cones allow you to perceive color |
| 14:55.49 | mindjuju | rods bright / contrast |
| 14:55.56 | mindjuju | now an interesting side note |
| 14:56.09 | mindjuju | females typically have a higher percentage of cones than rods |
| 14:56.22 | mindjuju | and some headshrinkers think this is why men see things binarily |
| 14:56.27 | mindjuju | ie, yes | no |
| 14:56.30 | mindjuju | black | white |
| 14:56.34 | mindjuju | a | b |
| 14:56.36 | SunSparc | Hmm |
| 14:56.44 | mindjuju | where women usually see more options |
| 14:57.11 | mindjuju | an interesting idea, but not sure if accurate |
| 14:57.15 | SunSparc | Especially the mind. |
| 14:57.46 | mindjuju | any way, so the higher cone density you have the better you can perceive color |
| 14:58.19 | mindjuju | and these rare tetrachromats are thought to be able to see color beyond what is normal |
| 14:59.54 | mindjuju | well, so much for biology, got to push out some big stuff this morning |
| 15:00.16 | SunSparc | I wonder what a tetrachromat could see... |
| 15:00.33 | SunSparc | Other dimensions... |
| 15:00.41 | SunSparc | Pan-dimensional beings... |
| 15:00.55 | SunSparc | More beauty in a flower... |
| 15:01.02 | mindjuju | heh, no, I've always heard it that they can discern minute variations in color where normal people can't perceive |
| 15:01.16 | SunSparc | Ah |
| 15:01.34 | mindjuju | but the wiki article seemed to indicate that they can possibly periceve into the UV spectrum -- hadn't heard that before |
| 15:01.44 | SunSparc | Like adjusting your display settings from thousands of colors to millions of colors. |
| 15:01.56 | mindjuju | exactly |
| 15:02.00 | SunSparc | Sweet! |
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| 16:09.52 | mgeary | ~yow |
| 16:32.02 | SunSparc | ~yow |
| 16:34.11 | mgeary | ~zippy |
| 16:35.52 | SunSparc | ~chuckfact |
| 16:35.53 | jbot | Chuck Norris uses Tabasco Sauce for eye drops |
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| 17:19.38 | itimber | morning guys |
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| 17:22.32 | SunSparc | Good morning itimber!!!! |
| 17:22.47 | itimber | morning |
| 17:22.58 | itimber | my client gives me probs on a regular basis |
| 17:23.03 | itimber | had to restart it |
| 17:23.37 | SunSparc | Fire your client. |
| 17:27.19 | synic | itimber: http://xchataqua.sourceforge.net/twiki/bin/view/Main/WebHome |
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| 17:37.09 | mindjuju | cheap fire alarm - http://www.imagebee.net/images/jpam2a8sjktxh5hwsw29.jpg |
| 17:47.00 | SunSparc | And you can have something tasty to take with you as you watch your place burn to the ground. Clevar. |
| 17:47.51 | DexterTheDragon | its a dual alarm, you can hear it and smell it |
| 17:48.08 | mgeary | yeah, nothing gets me out of a house faster than the smell of burning popcorn |
| 17:48.09 | mgeary | nasty |
| 17:48.11 | SunSparc | DexterTheDragon: You have a very good point. |
| 17:48.20 | SunSparc | mgeary: AMEN!!! |
| 17:48.31 | mindjuju | heh |
| 17:48.32 | SunSparc | Nothing makes me want to strangle a co-worker more. |
| 17:48.36 | mindjuju | good call dexterthedragon |
| 17:48.43 | mgeary | SunSparc: 'zactly!! |
| 17:48.48 | mgeary | what's up with that? |
| 17:48.49 | SunSparc | "Oh, I forgot it was in there..." |
| 17:48.53 | mgeary | you don't eat popcorn at work |
| 17:49.13 | SunSparc | Makes me want to stick their head in the microwave. |
| 17:50.17 | SunSparc | If you do eat it at work, you better make sure you know how to do it and you do not leave it unattended. Or else I will be standing behind you with my stupid bat. |
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| 17:54.14 | SunSparc | ~CakePHP++ |
| 17:55.39 | SunSparc | ~WarmWhiteSandyBeachesAndCrystalClearBlueWater++ |
| 17:55.58 | SunSparc | ~jbot++ |
| 17:56.07 | SunSparc | ~karma jbot |
| 17:56.07 | jbot | jbot has karma of 27 |
| 17:56.12 | SunSparc | Whoa! |
| 17:56.21 | SunSparc | I think she is whooping all of us. |
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| 18:01.45 | fungus | she? |
| 18:01.49 | fungus | ~gender |
| 18:01.49 | jbot | I'm not sure |
| 18:02.04 | SunSparc | jbot, are you a female? |
| 18:02.12 | fungus | ~gender |
| 18:02.13 | jbot | I'm pregnant |
| 18:02.19 | SunSparc | There you go |
| 18:02.23 | fungus | ~gender |
| 18:02.24 | jbot | I'm hermaphroditic |
| 18:02.24 | SunSparc | jbot, are you a girl? |
| 18:02.28 | SunSparc | hehe |
| 18:02.29 | fungus | aha! |
| 18:02.36 | fungus | ~gender |
| 18:02.37 | jbot | I'm lesbian |
| 18:02.41 | SunSparc | lol |
| 18:02.50 | fungus | ~gender |
| 18:02.51 | jbot | I'm male |
| 18:03.01 | fungus | jbot, are you confused? |
| 18:03.44 | SunSparc | jbot needs an upgrade to some positronic memory components |
| 18:09.27 | herlo | jbot: you are femail |
| 18:09.28 | jbot | herlo: I think you lost me on that one |
| 18:09.36 | herlo | jbot: nope |
| 18:09.37 | jbot | yes |
| 18:09.43 | herlo | jbot: okay |
| 18:09.44 | jbot | hmm... okay is fine |
| 18:10.58 | SunSparc | jbot you are being silly |
| 18:10.59 | jbot | SunSparc: I think you lost me on that one |
| 18:11.03 | SunSparc | ~silly |
| 18:11.04 | jbot | rumour has it, silly is 'a good question, the answer to which is "yes, i am"' |
| 18:16.17 | SunSparc | jbot jbot is also æ¥ææ¥ã®ç«è± |
| 18:16.17 | jbot | SunSparc: i'm not going to learn illegal characters |
| 18:16.31 | SunSparc | Scared are ya? |
| 18:17.37 | DexterTheDragon | just a law abiding citizen |
| 18:18.04 | SunSparc | :) |
| 18:18.31 | SunSparc | jbot 产çæä¸ç¾ä¸ç¾å
|
| 18:22.02 | mgeary | ~jbot |
| 18:22.03 | jbot | methinks jbot is a hack!, or known to have only said one useful thing. a tool, or dating the fembots, or [TK]D-Fender's b*tch, or suck, or a pain in the ass |
| 18:23.03 | SunSparc | Not very complimentary. |
| 18:44.37 | mindjuju | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:44.43 | mindjuju | maybe i'll send an email instead |
| 18:45.06 | SunSparc | mindjuju: Good idea. |
| 18:45.18 | SunSparc | Stay in the groove at all costs. |
| 18:45.29 | mindjuju | it's all about the flow, the thoughts must flow |
| 18:56.42 | SunSparc | It's all about the spice. The spice must flow. |
| 18:57.07 | thebigdog | i so want to be done with subversion |
| 18:57.36 | mgeary | thebigdog: what's your most painful aggravation? |
| 18:57.55 | thebigdog | distributed |
| 19:00.14 | mindjuju | thebigdog, you should talk to dexterthedragon or dataw0lf about git, it looks really cool |
| 19:00.47 | mindjuju | this 404 hall of fame page is awesome - http://www.hongkiat.com/blog/60-really-cool-and-creative-error-404-pages/ |
| 19:00.52 | olds | _psychic_: http://voices.washingtonpost.com/soccerinsider/2008/12/diving_exhibition.html |
| 19:01.01 | mindjuju | my favorite so far is the Soocial one, almost fell out of chair |
| 19:01.35 | olds | worst. dive. ever |
| 19:01.57 | _psychic_ | oh dear |
| 19:02.03 | _psychic_ | soccer so needs replay reviews |
| 19:02.07 | _psychic_ | it's maddening |
| 19:02.19 | _psychic_ | especially when a play like that is the difference between win and lose |
| 19:03.42 | olds | well my opinion is |
| 19:03.48 | olds | there should be a post-game review |
| 19:04.00 | olds | in that case, that player should be suspended for 3 games |
| 19:04.05 | olds | without pay |
| 19:04.14 | _psychic_ | at least |
| 19:04.16 | olds | it will put a stop to the nonsense pretty quickly |
| 19:04.20 | _psychic_ | I don't see much of a drawback to in-game reviews |
| 19:04.31 | olds | I think it hurts the flow of the game |
| 19:04.55 | olds | What they really need is a booth referee |
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| 19:05.03 | olds | who can instantly tell the referee on the field |
| 19:05.08 | _psychic_ | that's what I think |
| 19:05.12 | olds | "that was bogus, toss him" |
| 19:05.15 | SunSparc | That offender is a terrible actor. |
| 19:05.16 | brasto | wps, you work for the church now? |
| 19:07.53 | SunSparc | Flat bread? |
| 19:08.24 | mindjuju | olds, my wife and I had Indian food last night |
| 19:08.45 | mindjuju | saag paneer, chicken tikka masala , garlic naan and papadaam |
| 19:08.46 | mindjuju | yum |
| 19:11.26 | SunSparc | Forward offender faked a dive as if some defender tripped him. |
| 19:12.04 | synic | olds: I don't get the dive video you posted. Please explain it. |
| 19:12.19 | mindjuju | ^5 synic |
| 19:12.28 | synic | ^5 :) |
| 19:12.29 | mindjuju | watched it twice and didn't get it |
| 19:13.23 | synic | oh, heh, you guys were talking about it in here... |
| 19:13.30 | synic | I saw it posted on twitter |
| 19:14.11 | synic | ah, ok |
| 19:14.32 | SunSparc | :) |
| 19:14.41 | SunSparc | Does mindjuju get it yet? |
| 19:15.20 | olds | in soccer when you "act" like you were tripped or fouled when nothing actually happened or very little contact occurred, it's called diving |
| 19:15.40 | olds | because you dive to the ground |
| 19:15.45 | mindjuju | k, i get that part, but what about the comments when they talk about offsides? |
| 19:15.46 | mgeary | well then my kids "dive" all the time to try to get each other into trouble |
| 19:15.58 | mindjuju | i'm confused on that |
| 19:16.26 | olds | oh, and he was possibly offsides |
| 19:16.42 | olds | you can't be past the last defender when the ball is played |
| 19:16.49 | olds | basically no cherrypicking |
| 19:17.01 | mindjuju | oh |
| 19:17.16 | olds | and it looks like it was very close |
| 19:18.20 | olds | yea he was offsides |
| 19:18.36 | olds | looks like someone paid the referee |
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| 20:39.55 | mgeary | dang, i really hate FTP. I wish it were easy to virtualize and chroot sftp users |
| 20:41.02 | SunSparc | What problem are you running into? |
| 20:41.20 | SunSparc | People getting out of hand? |
| 20:41.21 | mgeary | active/passive ftp |
| 20:41.43 | mgeary | help me remember what the default is, Active or Passive |
| 20:41.52 | mindjuju | i thought active was default |
| 20:41.58 | SunSparc | I was just trying to remember that myself. |
| 20:42.03 | mgeary | iirc, active is over just port 21, and passive is over a range of ports |
| 20:42.05 | mindjuju | passive was the exception for people with firewall issues |
| 20:42.13 | mgeary | yeah |
| 20:42.40 | SunSparc | Just give your users a DropBox |
| 20:42.54 | mgeary | ? |
| 20:42.56 | mindjuju | ah, good ole dropbox |
| 20:43.07 | mindjuju | mgeary, i thought i gave you an invite, no? |
| 20:43.17 | mgeary | yes, i just wasn't sure if that's what SunSparc was referring ot |
| 20:43.18 | mgeary | to |
| 20:43.26 | SunSparc | Yep |
| 20:43.27 | SunSparc | https://www.getdropbox.com/ |
| 20:43.44 | mgeary | but in this case, the files aren't just being transferred from person A to person B, they're being placed in a known location on a server, where a previewing web app works with them |
| 20:43.56 | mgeary | so someething like DB isn't a graceful solution |
| 20:44.12 | mgeary | FTP is a great theoretical solution, but i have found sftp to be so much more reliable |
| 20:44.25 | SunSparc | And secure |
| 20:44.31 | mgeary | but we have proftpd set up with mysql so we can just define users in a database table |
| 20:44.48 | mgeary | and afaik, there's no (easy) way to do that with sftp |
| 20:44.49 | SunSparc | Nice |
| 20:45.06 | SunSparc | SFTP is a totally separate animal. |
| 20:45.24 | mgeary | yep |
| 20:50.00 | herlo | carmony: fixed my resume link |
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| 21:01.55 | carmony_ | Ah, nothin like working from a couch.... :P |
| 21:03.37 | SunSparc | Unless that couch hurts your back. |
| 21:04.53 | herlo | carmony_: haha |
| 21:09.08 | mgeary | :/ |
| 21:10.08 | mgeary | really sucky time of year to have to worry about a job |
| 21:11.20 | DexterTheDragon | really sucky time of the economy to have to worry about a job |
| 21:12.15 | mindjuju | yeah, true that |
| 21:13.03 | herlo | well, severance will get me through the holidays and into next year if nothing else... |
| 21:13.43 | herlo | GL has been good to us, even after we've left. They're putting resumes in for us and more. |
| 21:14.20 | mindjuju | that's awesome to hear herlo, that they are treating you guys well |
| 21:16.15 | herlo | GL is a really good company, even if they have to let us go |
| 21:25.52 | carmony_ | I couldn't access your resume herlo :P |
| 21:28.42 | herlo | carmony_: I fixed that, yes |
| 21:36.34 | mindjuju | herlo, what's the URL for fedora installfest? |
| 21:36.43 | mindjuju | i'll send promo to uphpu mailing list |
| 21:38.21 | herlo | mindjuju: http://tinyurl.com/utah-f10-party |
| 21:38.39 | mindjuju | awesome, thx |
| 21:38.45 | herlo | np |
| 21:38.55 | herlo | it's in the subject of #utos fy |
| 21:38.57 | herlo | fyi |
| 21:56.46 | mindjuju | man, could sure go for some whopper king about now |
| 22:04.22 | mindjuju | don't look mgeary! - Walmart to sell 4gb iPhone for $99 - http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/04/apple-walmart-to-do-99-4gb-iphone/ |
| 22:05.46 | SunSparc | Yeah that mushroom swiss burger looks good... |
| 22:05.52 | SunSparc | Speaking of iPhones -> http://www.cooliris.com/iphone/ |
| 22:06.25 | mindjuju | how are they doing flash vid on the iphone? |
| 22:06.46 | mindjuju | is it just flash that isn't currently allowed, or is it all of flash including vids? |
| 22:06.47 | SunSparc | Dunno. Probably not Flash. |
| 22:07.06 | mindjuju | hmm, i thought youtube only did flv |
| 22:08.00 | mgeary | youtube serves up mpeg4 to the iphone |
| 22:08.09 | mindjuju | ah |
| 22:08.16 | mindjuju | good to know |
| 22:12.22 | *** part/#uphpu mindjuju (n=mindjuju@76.8.222.130) |
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| 22:19.13 | *** mode/#UPHPU [+o mindjuju] by ChanServ |
| 22:21.09 | mgeary | well, here's a fun little exploit opportunity |
| 22:21.42 | mgeary | https://www.vchocolates.com/shop/sc_messages.asp?mode=orderdeclined&message=Mindjuju,%20You%20Really%20need%20to%20stop%20shopping%20at%20WalMart |
| 22:22.44 | mindjuju | ah, asp pages, haven't written one of those in years |
| 22:22.50 | mgeary | https://www.vchocolates.com/shop/sc_messages.asp?message=%3Cscript%3Ealert('hello')%3C/script%3E |
| 22:22.55 | mgeary | scary |
| 22:22.58 | mgeary | just pass your JS in the url |
| 22:23.01 | orsonj | yep, the website I work on has the same problem, except you have to base64 encode the message first |
| 22:23.27 | orsonj | that way it "passes" vulnerabity scans |
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| 22:33.11 | carmony | scary |
| 22:34.20 | unum | I have a page that intentionally allows you to do stuff like that.... |
| 22:38.57 | *** join/#uphpu mrkrow (n=chad@166.70.178.114) |
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| 23:07.12 | mindjuju | i wonder if it makes your breath smell like bacon, or if it is bacon flavored too!?! - http://www.flickr.com/photos/pandora_6666/3079547064/sizes/o/ |
| 23:30.56 | carmony_ | lol |
