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| 16:18.57 | mindjuju | everybody can relax now, i'm here |
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| 16:28.23 | jsmith | mindjuju: It's about time... |
| 16:33.16 | DexterTheDragon | ~monday |
| 16:33.16 | jbot | monday is probably when everything breaks for no apparent reason, creating so many problems that it takes you until friday to get back to normal. at which point one more thing breaks that takes you the whole weekend to fix |
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| 17:05.02 | carmony | good morning |
| 17:33.03 | macnewbold | ~zippy |
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| 17:46.39 | SunSparc | ~woof |
| 17:46.40 | jbot | woof is, like, the sound a dog makes. |
| 17:50.36 | mgeary | ~moo |
| 17:50.36 | jbot | ACTION mooooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I am cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass |
| 17:50.57 | mgeary | uhh, ok. |
| 17:51.30 | mindjuju | that's awesome |
| 17:53.41 | SunSparc | lol |
| 18:01.32 | mgeary | ~rae |
| 18:02.36 | SunSparc | ~oink |
| 18:02.37 | jbot | somebody said oink was onomatopoeia for "Obviously you didn't calibrate the lateral phase stabilzers correctly because we're heading towards a giant bananna!", or a torrent site with an annoying habit of disabling accounts that haven't gone to the website in 6 weeks with no warning |
| 18:05.34 | unum | http://bash.org/?178890 |
| 18:09.20 | SunSparc | lol |
| 18:09.30 | SunSparc | Got their own bot banned. |
| 18:17.18 | mgeary | hey fungus |
| 18:18.16 | mgeary | what does this mean in my error logs: named[254]: Err/TO getting serial# for "<somedomain.com>" |
| 18:23.00 | SunSparc | Is there a function in PHP that will take a number given in bytes and return it in megabytes? I was going to just write a quick function to do it, but figured I would see if anyone knew of one already? |
| 18:23.33 | mgeary | umm |
| 18:23.41 | mgeary | num * 1024 * 1024 |
| 18:23.53 | fungus | mgeary: sounds like named can't read the serial number in the zone file. perhaps an inproperly formatted SOA record? |
| 18:24.10 | mgeary | fungus: i'm seeing dozens of them |
| 18:24.23 | mgeary | and the primary NS hasn't changed |
| 18:24.32 | mgeary | could it be that the slave NS couldn't access the primary for some reason? |
| 18:24.53 | SunSparc | mgeary: yeah, easy enough, just checking. |
| 18:25.23 | fungus | Yes, that error is generated when a slave cannot get the SOA for the zone. |
| 18:25.55 | fungus | Try checking that the master is properly returning an SOA record for the zone |
| 18:26.01 | fungus | dig soa somedomain.com |
| 18:26.10 | mgeary | okay. NS1 seems to be behaving fine for now, so i'll just watch the logs tomorrow |
| 18:26.18 | mgeary | that was in the logs for NS2 |
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| 18:42.16 | itimber | morning guys |
| 18:54.01 | PoeticIntensity | mornin'. |
| 18:56.28 | itimber | it's great to see DexterTheDragon and carmony as presenters.... |
| 18:56.43 | itimber | unfortunately, I'll be working hard to pay the bills |
| 18:56.52 | itimber | can anyone record it please? |
| 19:04.24 | itimber | anyone know of a good PHP based accounting app? OpenSource or Commercial |
| 19:04.53 | mindjuju | gnucash |
| 19:04.56 | mindjuju | i think it's called |
| 19:07.39 | mgeary | nice |
| 19:13.41 | itimber | ....searching gnucash |
| 19:13.44 | itimber | thx mindjuju |
| 19:14.14 | fungus | gnucash is a desktop app for linux, IIRC |
| 19:15.01 | itimber | oh.... ya, that won't work.... |
| 19:15.11 | fungus | oh, Mac and Windows too |
| 19:15.40 | itimber | I'm looking for something to plug into my web-based ordering system |
| 19:15.57 | itimber | for invoicing and accounting |
| 19:16.32 | mgeary | good luck |
| 19:16.55 | mgeary | in my experience, *NO* FOSS software can be easily integrated into a custom web app |
| 19:17.19 | mgeary | my policy is, if you can use it as-is, then great, but if you have to touch it at all, you're setting yourself up for a nightmare |
| 19:18.38 | mgeary | there may be some commercial ones out there, but it's unlikely that someone has an app that has "space" for your foreign keys to just be dropped in. I'd *love* it if developers took that approach, but it seems like they don't |
| 19:19.38 | mgeary | we looked at X-Cart as an e-comm solution for an existing web app, but it would have had to be customized extensively to work with our user database table, and the alternative was that users would have 2 logins: one for the web app, and one for the e-store. Bah |
| 19:26.23 | mgeary | but at least i know my opinion isn't based on ignorance |
| 19:27.38 | tierra | x-cart has the absolutely worst use of smarty templates I've ever seen... makes customizing the cart theme to your company website an extremely daunting task |
| 19:29.12 | tierra | I took a month to look into replacing our in house cart software with x-cart for a one product site, and gave up because it was just taking way too long for what we needed |
| 19:29.30 | mgeary | for a one-product site? Why use a cart for that? |
| 19:31.02 | tierra | I was looking to replace the in-house code with something that already had built-in shipping options, promotion codes, and support for subscription-based products... basically planning for expansion |
| 19:31.10 | mgeary | ah, sure |
| 19:31.32 | tierra | I still need to do that, but I still haven't found any cart software that fits out needs |
| 19:31.48 | mgeary | we ended up building a custom e-store |
| 19:32.04 | mgeary | we'd like to think we've built it in such a way that we can just pick it up and put it down again in other web apps |
| 19:32.09 | tierra | I know I don't want the cart software to stay in house, we don't want to have to write and maintain all these new features we're going to eventually need |
| 19:33.17 | synic | you could hire some coder and then forget to pay him half of what you owe him |
| 19:33.22 | synic | *duck* |
| 19:33.44 | tierra | heh |
| 19:41.16 | tierra | Google Apps really needs to add a setting to disable spam filtering on certain accounts |
| 20:00.39 | itimber | thx for the info guys |
| 20:01.26 | itimber | anyone ever connected their web stuff to Quickbooks or similar accounting software? |
| 20:01.41 | mgeary | like a live connection? |
| 20:01.45 | mgeary | or importable-reports? |
| 21:10.59 | thebigdog | itimber what are you trying to do? |
| 21:14.35 | itimber | oh... sorry mgeary |
| 21:14.41 | itimber | wasn't paying attention |
| 21:14.43 | mgeary | meh |
| 21:14.49 | itimber | hehe |
| 21:14.51 | mgeary | here i've been waiting all this time |
| 21:15.01 | itimber | I had to pee man |
| 21:15.07 | mgeary | TMI |
| 21:15.13 | itimber | then I forgot to check back |
| 21:15.14 | SunSparc | WTMI |
| 21:15.15 | itimber | LMAO |
| 21:15.19 | itimber | haha |
| 21:15.33 | mgeary | here's a factoid for ya, itimber |
| 21:15.46 | itimber | k.... ya, a live connection to quickbooks so that I don't have to roll my own |
| 21:15.56 | itimber | I'm just wondering what's out there as options |
| 21:16.36 | itimber | trying to eliminate the data duplication that's going on now.... My Inventory/Order system and Quickbooks for Accounting |
| 21:16.46 | itimber | I was going to roll my own accounting system |
| 21:17.13 | itimber | but I'm taking a bit of time to see if there's a plug 'n play option out there |
| 21:17.19 | itimber | even if it costs some $$ |
| 21:17.22 | thebigdog | so you just want an acconting system? |
| 21:17.31 | itimber | yes |
| 21:18.32 | mgeary | ...but he wants it to integrate into an existing web app |
| 21:19.06 | itimber | yes |
| 21:19.56 | thebigdog | haha |
| 21:20.05 | thebigdog | i only know of one that i have used like that |
| 21:20.07 | thebigdog | and it is $$$ |
| 21:20.27 | mgeary | hey, thebigdog |
| 21:20.30 | mgeary | ~karma thebigdog |
| 21:20.30 | jbot | thebigdog has karma of 9 |
| 21:20.33 | mgeary | ~karma mgeary |
| 21:20.33 | jbot | mgeary has karma of 12 |
| 21:20.36 | mgeary | neener neener |
| 21:20.42 | jsmith | ~karma jsmith |
| 21:20.42 | jbot | jsmith has karma of 13 |
| 21:20.46 | mgeary | bah |
| 21:20.47 | SunSparc | Wow |
| 21:20.47 | thebigdog | itimber, i have used netsuite |
| 21:20.49 | jsmith | Wow... |
| 21:20.55 | jsmith | I didn't realize it was that high |
| 21:21.02 | jsmith | I thought I'd be a measly two or three |
| 21:21.29 | itimber | ~karma itimber |
| 21:21.29 | jbot | itimber has karma of 1 |
| 21:21.36 | itimber | ~karma timinator |
| 21:21.36 | jbot | timinator has karma of 3 |
| 21:21.47 | itimber | I have more karma as my former self |
| 21:21.49 | itimber | LOL |
| 21:28.38 | itimber | thebigdog: how much $$? |
| 21:28.43 | itimber | the site doesn't say |
| 21:29.16 | thebigdog | about 7k per user per year i think |
| 21:29.29 | itimber | is it worth that? |
| 21:29.39 | itimber | how easy was it to integrate? |
| 21:29.52 | thebigdog | integration is done with web services |
| 21:29.56 | thebigdog | so it is really nice |
| 21:30.09 | thebigdog | i like it alot |
| 21:30.16 | thebigdog | extremely powerful |
| 21:30.22 | thebigdog | it is done by oracle |
| 21:33.00 | mgeary | psh. oracle |
| 21:33.03 | mgeary | what do they know? |
| 21:33.38 | itimber | I know it's late to bring this point up, but I plan on leasing my software package to other companies in the lumber industry.... and want to have the accounting package as part of that..... |
| 21:33.51 | itimber | this probably would require separate licenses.....ect |
| 21:33.54 | itimber | *etc |
| 21:34.24 | itimber | so, as I'm looking at this..... let me ask the same question with a twist |
| 21:35.14 | itimber | anyone know of an accounting package where you can buy the source code.... or is OSS that wouldn't have licensing conflicts if I resell it as part of a larger package? |
| 21:36.32 | mgeary | very skeptical that such a thing exists |
| 21:36.39 | itimber | me too |
| 21:36.41 | itimber | :) |
| 21:37.18 | itimber | anyone want to write one :) |
| 21:37.21 | itimber | :P |
| 21:37.33 | itimber | I would have $$ for it |
| 21:37.36 | mgeary | we wrote an accounting system a couple of years ago |
| 21:37.40 | mgeary | but it wasn't fully featured |
| 21:37.50 | mgeary | couldn't compare to Quicken/etc |
| 21:38.07 | mgeary | but it did invoicing & basic accounting |
| 21:38.22 | itimber | naw.... needs to manage invoices, checks, accounts, EOY reports, etc |
| 21:38.32 | itimber | basic stuff |
| 21:38.43 | mgeary | well, we might have a decent start on that |
| 21:38.58 | itimber | PM |
| 21:39.02 | mgeary | yup |
| 21:39.46 | thebigdog | itimber, you i doubt you can sell software that has oss licenses in them |
| 21:39.56 | thebigdog | you can offer support for your software |
| 21:40.10 | itimber | well... I'm leasing software out..... |
| 21:40.22 | itimber | and I could totally give creds where creds are due |
| 21:40.42 | itimber | I'd be selling my software more than the accounting stuff |
| 21:40.50 | thebigdog | you need ot check all the licenses that you are using though |
| 21:40.52 | itimber | my stuff can hold it's own in the industry |
| 21:40.57 | itimber | but it's missing the accounting |
| 21:41.04 | itimber | and that's a deal killer to most guys |
| 21:41.21 | itimber | well, so far, it's all my code |
| 21:41.38 | thebigdog | netsuite can handle it all but it is very expensive is the only issue i found with it |
| 21:41.50 | itimber | ya |
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| 21:41.57 | itimber | sounds like it |
| 21:42.00 | itimber | on both points |
| 21:42.17 | thebigdog | it can handle pretty much ever aspect of your business |
| 21:43.24 | thebigdog | the only issue i found is when you run multiple domains is all |
| 21:43.30 | thebigdog | but i found a way to help with that |
| 21:43.43 | itimber | right on |
| 21:43.52 | itimber | does it run on their servers then? |
| 21:43.58 | thebigdog | yes |
| 21:44.05 | thebigdog | fully managed by them |
| 21:45.41 | itimber | right on |
| 21:46.18 | itimber | so, if I go that route, I'd just have them buy their own account for the Accounting part, then lease my part, and integrate the 2 |
| 21:46.20 | thebigdog | you can customize tons of stuff in it |
| 21:46.22 | itimber | *shrug |
| 21:46.54 | thebigdog | yeah |
| 21:47.06 | thebigdog | but your integration would be a 1x deal |
| 21:47.29 | thebigdog | but that accounting system is very complex though |
| 21:47.55 | thebigdog | they would need to be pretty familiar with accounting to know how it all works |
| 21:48.35 | mindjuju | sup thebigdog |
| 21:48.38 | mindjuju | how's life |
| 21:48.43 | thebigdog | pretty good |
| 21:48.55 | mindjuju | good to hear |
| 21:49.00 | itimber | right on.... thx for the info man |
| 21:49.06 | thebigdog | itimber, np |
| 21:50.08 | mindjuju | man, i need to buy me some of them LED Christmas lights, but dont' want to spend a fortune on it |
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| 21:51.07 | beandog | buenos dias corncitas |
| 21:51.38 | unum | mindjuju: I wonder how long they would take to pay for themselves |
| 21:51.44 | orsonj | Those LED lights are bigger than I thought. I saw some at sams club and they seem about 3 times bigger than regular lights. |
| 21:52.08 | orsonj | (unless they are attempting to replace those large outdoor lights) |
| 21:55.26 | mindjuju | unum, they say that they save 80% electricity |
| 21:55.36 | mindjuju | so, even if it is half thought, that's still a savings |
| 21:56.07 | mindjuju | but as to whether a strand of hceapy $5 lights at normal wattage v $15 leds = savings? |
| 21:56.37 | mindjuju | was kinda hoping to find somebody on the internet selling them in bulk |
| 21:56.57 | mindjuju | i want to put them up this week while there is no snow, last thing i want to do is be on my roof with snow on it |
| 21:57.10 | unum | I bet most of the saving come from not having to replace them as often |
| 21:57.23 | unum | but that would take a while to realize those savings |
| 21:57.36 | mindjuju | true, they'd definitely would be more durable |
| 21:58.04 | unum | more durable and longer lasting |
| 21:59.55 | fungus | The best way to save money on christmas lights is to not buy or use them at all. |
| 22:00.09 | mindjuju | now fungus, that's no fun at all! |
| 22:00.38 | beandog | ~scrooge fungus |
| 22:00.41 | fungus | Yes it is. it's really fun to laugh at the thought of how much your neighbors are spending on their lights. |
| 22:00.42 | mindjuju | beandog - your favorite word - http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-meh_earnov17,0,5517946.story |
| 22:01.11 | beandog | mindjuju, heh |
| 22:01.55 | mindjuju | i think it's in the federal code, though, that if you got kids, you need to put up lights |
| 22:02.07 | mindjuju | that eat that stuff up with a spoon |
| 22:07.44 | beandog | :) |
| 22:07.46 | beandog | I love Christmas lights |
| 22:08.04 | beandog | I'm actually employing extreme self-control this year, I havent started listening to Christmas music yet |
| 22:08.12 | beandog | Last year I started before Halloween |
| 22:08.22 | mindjuju | i wonder if they make Christmas techno? |
| 22:08.40 | mindjuju | that streamroller group isn't bad |
| 22:08.48 | mindjuju | and kinda techno-y |
| 22:09.13 | mindjuju | and there is that Trans-Siberian rock Christmas stuff, it's no GWAR, but i'm shure thebigdog has an album or two |
| 22:09.27 | fungus | Last year I didn't even put up a tree. My neice had to do it herself (she's only 11) |
| 22:10.05 | beandog | I just go to someone else's house and enjoy all their decorations and eat their cookies |
| 22:10.21 | fungus | Now that is an awesome idea. :) |
| 22:10.29 | beandog | man, two more weeks til December |
| 22:10.31 | beandog | hoy cow. |
| 22:10.32 | beandog | er |
| 22:10.33 | beandog | heh |
| 22:10.54 | fungus | eek, don't say that. time is moving too fast. |
| 22:10.57 | fungus | it's scary |
| 22:10.58 | mindjuju | fungus, no tree because too commercial, or no time or don't want to celebrate ? |
| 22:11.03 | mindjuju | or none of my bidness? |
| 22:11.07 | fungus | Too lazy to set it up |
| 22:11.14 | mindjuju | ah, gotcha |
| 22:11.20 | beandog | thats usually what happens to me |
| 22:11.22 | beandog | besides, its just me at home |
| 22:11.23 | mindjuju | just wonnerin' |
| 22:11.30 | beandog | Ill get one of those fireplace DVDs |
| 22:11.34 | fungus | lol |
| 22:11.37 | mindjuju | nice |
| 22:13.22 | beandog | I love christmas shopping though |
| 22:13.25 | orsonj | interesting, not recommended for Plasma TVs |
| 22:13.36 | beandog | Christmas Eve is the best day to go. No one is at the stores! |
| 22:13.40 | mindjuju | the fireplace DVD isn't for plasma? |
| 22:13.41 | fungus | shopping is always fun |
| 22:13.53 | orsonj | "Extended looping of only one scene not recommended for Plasma TVs." |
| 22:14.07 | orsonj | http://www.plasmawindow.com/fireplacedvd.html |
| 22:14.11 | beandog | rear projection++ |
| 22:14.47 | mindjuju | i'd only get it if it was in dobly 7.1 |
| 22:14.53 | mindjuju | or 7.4 even |
| 22:14.53 | beandog | heh |
| 22:15.00 | beandog | to get that "my house is on fire!!" effectt? |
| 22:15.08 | mindjuju | exactly |
| 22:15.11 | beandog | 7.4? |
| 22:15.14 | beandog | four subwoofers? |
| 22:15.24 | mindjuju | i want it to SOUND like i was in a blast furnace |
| 22:15.29 | beandog | LOL |
| 22:15.33 | beandog | mindjuju doesn't do anything halfway |
| 22:15.42 | orsonj | how about 7.subbasement |
| 22:15.55 | mindjuju | exactly |
| 22:16.06 | unum | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Led#Advantages_of_using_LEDs |
| 22:16.07 | beandog | goodness. |
| 22:16.23 | orsonj | http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2008/07/worlds_largest_subwoofer.html |
| 22:16.55 | beandog | orsonj, wtc |
| 22:17.33 | mindjuju | dat cool! |
| 22:17.55 | beandog | mindjuju, Im getting you this for Christmas: http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/17/wireless-buttkicker-kit-ready-to-rumble-your-posterior/ |
| 22:18.39 | mindjuju | that is FREAKIN awesome |
| 22:18.52 | beandog | heh, I thought youd like that :) |
| 22:35.23 | itimber | I've forgotten.... what's the php.ini setting for turning on mail()? |
| 22:38.25 | beandog | should be on by default |
| 22:38.48 | itimber | it's not |
| 22:39.05 | tierra | look for [mail function] |
| 22:39.12 | tierra | there's a few settings |
| 22:39.16 | beandog | what do you mean its not on? |
| 22:39.35 | tierra | maybe what you're really looking for though is safe mode |
| 22:39.44 | itimber | mail() doesn't run |
| 22:39.47 | itimber | :) |
| 22:39.55 | tierra | safe mode turns off mail() |
| 22:40.48 | tierra | oh, only the 5th param doesn't work in safe mode |
| 22:40.55 | tierra | used to be that it turned it off |
| 22:42.24 | tierra | "Safe Mode was removed in PHP 6.0.0." ... wow |
| 22:42.35 | itimber | wow |
| 22:42.55 | itimber | BTW: safe_mode = off |
| 22:43.45 | tierra | well, you either need sendmail installed and working (or a sendmail wrapper, which just about every MTA has), or you need to specify SMTP settings |
| 23:24.09 | fungus | http://www.apple.com/trailers/paramount/startrek/ |
| 23:27.50 | mindjuju | i don't know if i can see simon plegg outside of hot fuzz or shaun of the dead |
| 23:28.32 | fungus | lol, that might be hard, I agree. |
| 23:29.27 | fungus | But I can't wait to see Zachary Quinto as Spock |
| 23:30.05 | mindjuju | that does look good though |
| 23:34.12 | beandog | its gonna suck |
| 23:34.14 | beandog | probably |
| 23:34.15 | beandog | :( |
| 23:34.18 | beandog | sadly. |
| 23:34.26 | fungus | Don't say that. It will make me cry. |
| 23:34.36 | mgeary | Voyager. Bah |
| 23:34.38 | fungus | I second a Voyager movie |
| 23:34.39 | beandog | fungus, Oh, Im gonna go see it anyway opening night |
| 23:34.47 | beandog | we should have a geek movie night |
| 23:34.48 | beandog | :D |
| 23:35.29 | fungus | I second that too. |
| 23:35.47 | beandog | and fungus can pay |
| 23:35.51 | fungus | lol |
| 23:35.53 | fungus | not |
| 23:36.04 | beandog | He saves a lot of money by not buying Christmas decorations. |
| 23:36.49 | beandog | mgeary, Voyager was the best series ever. Well, next to TNG of course. |
| 23:36.50 | fungus | Only to pour it into other things like new computers, games, DVDs etc. |
| 23:36.58 | mgeary | beandog: bah, i say |
| 23:37.07 | beandog | fungus, mmmm, dvds |
| 23:37.28 | beandog | or whatever theyre called. |
| 23:37.39 | fungus | I love mine |
| 23:37.57 | fungus | much nicer than lugging a huge laptop around |
| 23:38.26 | beandog | yah |
| 23:38.34 | beandog | the whole point of a laptop should be that its easily portable. |
| 23:38.42 | fungus | Although the new MacBooks are pretty enticing. |
| 23:38.49 | beandog | not a minituare nuclear device intended to guarantee sterility |
| 23:39.16 | beandog | ~sterilize mgeary for not liking voyager |
| 23:39.43 | mgeary | you're too late! |
| 23:39.49 | fungus | I cried watching the final episode of Voyager |
| 23:40.14 | orsonj | so, did they make it back? |
| 23:40.15 | beandog | I love Voyager. |
| 23:41.06 | mgeary | bah |
| 23:41.07 | mgeary | Neelix |
| 23:41.07 | fungus | Now Enterprise on the other hand was a total piece of $H!t |
| 23:41.11 | mgeary | Capn' Janeway |
| 23:41.19 | mgeary | Tupak, or whatever his name was |
| 23:41.20 | mgeary | bah |
| 23:41.23 | mgeary | lame characters |
| 23:41.24 | beandog | Tuvok |
| 23:41.28 | beandog | ~shun mgeary |
| 23:41.29 | jbot | You are dead to me, mgeary. |
| 23:41.40 | beandog | Voyager has the best characters evar. |
| 23:41.52 | SunSparc | All the Star Treks are awesome in my opinion |
| 23:41.53 | fungus | Sounds like mgeary didn't get past the first season. |
| 23:41.59 | beandog | seriously |
| 23:42.09 | beandog | If you watch them all chronologically |
| 23:42.11 | beandog | its really great |
| 23:42.12 | fungus | Nah, Enterprise was crap |
| 23:42.31 | fungus | I watched the whole thing, and didn't like it. |
| 23:42.46 | SunSparc | :) |
| 23:42.58 | fungus | put it off for another couple decades |
| 23:43.06 | beandog | yah, Im in no hurry |
| 23:43.10 | beandog | I can't stand the early stuff. |
| 23:43.13 | beandog | too boring. |
| 23:43.40 | fungus | I watched Enterprise cause I finished all the other series and needed my Trek fix. |
| 23:43.52 | fungus | Enterprise cured it |
| 23:43.59 | beandog | fungus, I just finished watching all of TNG the other day |
| 23:44.11 | beandog | that was great. |
| 23:44.27 | beandog | DS9 is next |
| 23:44.28 | beandog | :D |
| 23:44.33 | _psychic_ | ~TNG++ |
| 23:44.43 | fungus | DS9 gets really good by about season 3 or 4 |
| 23:44.48 | mgeary | agreed |
| 23:44.54 | mgeary | really great towards the end |
| 23:44.57 | beandog | yah? right on |
| 23:45.09 | mgeary | early DS9 is pretty meh |
| 23:45.10 | fungus | The first few seasons aren't that great |
| 23:45.16 | mgeary | ^5 fungus |
| 23:45.27 | SunSparc | Galaxy Quest is pretty good also. |
| 23:45.33 | beandog | fungus, we should have a voyager marathon sometime. |
| 23:45.33 | mgeary | GQ rocks |
| 23:45.49 | SunSparc | mgeary: Have you watched GQ in Thermian? |
| 23:45.57 | mgeary | hahaha. no |
| 23:46.05 | beandog | in Thermian? alt audio track? |
| 23:46.10 | SunSparc | On the DVD they have that as an audio option. |
| 23:46.16 | SunSparc | Yeah, it is hilarious |
| 23:46.19 | mgeary | i hate DVD special features |
| 23:46.26 | mgeary | just gimme the dang movie |
| 23:46.26 | SunSparc | This one is worth it. |
| 23:46.28 | beandog | mgeary, me too. |
| 23:46.36 | beandog | waste of time. |
| 23:46.40 | beandog | except trailers. |
| 23:46.41 | beandog | :D |
| 23:46.42 | fungus | depends on the movie and/or feature |
| 23:46.43 | mgeary | SunSparc: but for 2 hours? |
| 23:46.43 | beandog | ~trailers++ |
| 23:46.48 | SunSparc | They do the whole movie in Thermian. |
| 23:46.59 | mgeary | isn't that a bit much? |
| 23:47.10 | SunSparc | mgeary: hehe, yes, but apparently they had fun doing it. |
| 23:51.31 | itimber | fungus: found a mistake in the trailer.... they start w/ the hood up on that car.... after the first shot, the hood is down |
| 23:51.35 | itimber | :) |
| 23:52.18 | fungus | Ahh, your one of ...those. |
| 23:52.23 | fungus | nitpickers |
| 23:52.25 | fungus | :) |
| 23:53.16 | beandog | it was the force |
| 23:57.22 | itimber | haha |
| 23:57.57 | itimber | I prefer to call it: Detail Oriented |
| 23:58.27 | itimber | :) |