IRC log for #uphpu on 20081031

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03:14.09Utah_Dave~wake mindjuju
03:14.09jbotACTION throws a barrel-full of ice water on mindjuju and shouts "GOOD MORNING!!!!"
03:15.33mindjujusup
03:17.50mindjuju~apb utah_dave
03:17.50jbotACTION summons Leland to spray mace at utah_dave
03:21.29Utah_Davenot much. Just about to get ready for bed
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13:39.29mindjujuhappy Halloween
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14:13.00carmonyhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwvdmU36i5U
14:13.05carmonygood way to start off your day
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14:19.15SunSparccarmony: That is awesome!!
14:19.19SunSparcROFL
14:26.58carmonylol
14:27.00carmonyI loved that
14:36.48PoeticIntensityLMAO LMAO LMAO
14:36.55PoeticIntensityI'm cryin' over here...
14:37.10SunSparcSeriously
14:37.12SunSparc:)
14:37.24PoeticIntensityoh, man.... that's hiiiiiiilarious.
14:39.12carmonyI love youtube
14:39.22PoeticIntensity*sigh*.... me too....
14:39.39PoeticIntensitywell.... that just ruined a perfectly good work day.
14:39.42carmonyI let others troll it and find the good stuff and email it to me...
14:39.46carmonylol
14:39.57PoeticIntensityheh....
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15:18.37mgearyjsmith: you around?
15:44.05jsmithmgeary: Sure
15:44.10jsmithmgeary: I am now :-)
16:01.37mgearyheya
16:02.13mgearygot some voip questions
16:05.20mgearyso, we want to build/repurpose/whatever a tele-seminar web app. Basically something where a host can either use a computer microphone or possibly phone in to a voip system, and have the audio streamed out to web users (and also possibly folks who dial in to a number). This would run in tandem with a web-based chat/q&a system
16:05.34mgearybasically like a very, very liteweight Adobe breeze
16:06.21fungusThat's a cool idea.
16:06.36mgearydo i understand correctly that with a voip system we could go from microphone -> phone and phone -> computer speaker with relative ease?
16:07.47jsmithFairly easily, yes
16:08.17jsmithI've also done phone -> asterisk -> icecast and phone -> asterisk -> fluendo
16:08.48fungusHow would you connect asterisk to icecast?  what mechanism do you use?
16:09.15mgearyi don't really know what icecast and fluendo are
16:09.16jsmithfungus: Call the ICES() application, and write a custom /usr/bin/ices script :-)
16:09.25jsmithmgeary: Streaming audio/video servers
16:09.31mgearycool
16:09.32fungusan ICES() application.  awesom
16:10.34fungusCool.  that will be fun to play with.
16:13.16jsmithfungus: My /usr/bin/ices, for example, looks something like: exec gst-launch-0.10 fdsrc fd=0 ! audio/x-raw-int,width=16,depth=16,rate=8000,channels=1,endianness=1234,signed=\(bool\)true ! udpsink host=127.0.0.1 port=8000 >> /tmp/ices.log 2>&1
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17:21.33carmonyI am so cool: http://screencast.com/t/C2plYzSig
17:24.25SunSparccarmony: Pretty snazzy.  I love Google integration.
18:11.45tonedevfis there audio in that carmony?
18:12.12tonedevfor some context that i'm missing?
18:12.15SunSparcyes
18:12.20SunSparchas audio
18:12.34tonedevfah
18:13.58tonedevfchennai, india is somewhere out in the ocean, apparently ;  )
18:14.00tonedevfcool
18:17.12tonedevfI'd totaly date a mermaid from India
18:27.49carmonylol
18:57.25wpsis there way to include a file that contains both PHP and HTML into a script and only extract the PHP?
18:59.09carmonyso the HTML doesn't print out?
18:59.13wpsyes
18:59.26carmonyYou can hack it by putting an buffer around it
18:59.33carmonyob_start();
18:59.39carmonyinclude ...
18:59.45mgearysounds to me like a design flaw...
18:59.58wpsnah… let me explain
19:00.45wpsthe business owners of a project want a page with a table that lists all of the prototypes with some details
19:00.59wpsI don't want to have to update that file… I'd like to make it update itself automatically
19:01.47wpsso I was thinking of putting those notes at the top of each prototype file and then having the report page read through the file directory, open each file, read the details from the top of the file and then build the report
19:02.56wpsI guess if I constructed the notes as just HTML notes (ie: <!--  ...   -->), and then used get_file_contents() and a little regex, that would work
19:03.18wps(instead of putting the notes as PHP variables as I was starting to do)
19:08.28mgearydunno. having a hard time understanding the context
19:08.32mgearyknock yerself out :)
19:10.19wps:)
19:10.59DexterTheDragonsounds like a job for a database
19:11.40wpsI don't think so. If I am going to go and update the record in a database, that's not any easier than updating it on the report
19:12.25wpsif I can just update the note/detials at the top of the prototype file right there when I am editing it and then save and whala, the report is automatically updated
19:12.37wps…then that is much easier
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20:06.36PoeticIntensityWow...
20:06.37PoeticIntensityhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=381gFG4Crr8
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20:07.54itimbersup ya'll
20:08.11PoeticIntensityright on
20:08.15dr_MJawesome itimber
20:08.28itimber53min in line  :(
20:08.35PoeticIntensitywow.
20:08.38itimberya
20:09.06itimberand my wife and I traded off..... so one of us could watch the kids while the other voted
20:09.10itimber:(
20:09.33SunSparcPoeticIntensity: Ummm... that video is scary
20:09.36itimberso I had to do the wait twice
20:09.38itimberlol
20:09.53PoeticIntensityon multiple levels.
20:10.20itimberthat's alright though.... I'm blessed to be in a country where we can still vote in the next leader
20:10.32PoeticIntensity"hear hear!"
20:10.35jsmithAmen, brother!
20:10.49jsmithWe could very easily have just one candidate on the ballot.
20:11.56itimberyes.... as I recall, there were 6 names on there for Prez, and a line to add one of your choice
20:14.24jsmithSo you wrote in "Bozo the Clown"?
20:14.40dr_MJi'm going to write in iTimber, i wonder if they'll know who that is
20:14.44itimbernaw: iTimber of Utah
20:14.51itimberlol
20:14.53itimberyou should
20:15.09itimberI, actually, don't want the job though.....
20:15.16itimberI'm not cut out for it
20:15.18itimberLOL
20:15.31dr_MJno honest man / sane man would
20:15.34PoeticIntensitywha?
20:15.37itimbertrue that
20:15.40dr_MJthat makes you perfect for the job
20:15.40PoeticIntensityI was gonna vote for itimber too...
20:15.50PoeticIntensityNOW who am I supposed to vote for?
20:15.55itimberLOL
20:15.58dr_MJyou can vote for itimber
20:16.00dr_MJwe both can
20:16.02dr_MJ:)
20:16.04PoeticIntensityI'm gonna.
20:16.06PoeticIntensityso there.
20:16.09PoeticIntensity:-P
20:16.14itimber+3 votes.... so I'm only 99.999pts below the main parties
20:16.33PoeticIntensityI'm sure I can persuade my cat to vote for you, too.
20:16.39PoeticIntensitybut... I'm not 100% on that one, just yet.
20:16.42dr_MJwell, truthfully, you'd prolly need a .0009 on top of that
20:17.01itimberya, probably
20:17.03itimberLOL
20:17.25itimberwhat's the number for your cat.... I'll convince her
20:17.51itimberI grow catnip in my garden..... LOL
20:18.06itimberall the neighborhood cats hang at my pad
20:18.22PoeticIntensitywell... it's a good thing my cat isn't readin' this, because my cat is definitely not a "her"...
20:18.31itimberLOL
20:18.34PoeticIntensityyou need to be more careful, itimber, that could have blown your chances..
20:18.41itimbertrue true
20:18.46PoeticIntensityoh, wait.... this stuff is googled....
20:18.51PoeticIntensityso... you're out of luck.
20:18.59itimbercrap
20:19.11PoeticIntensitywell... double the offering of catnip, and he might forgive ya.
20:19.19itimberdone
20:19.22itimber:)
20:19.26itimberI have a ton of it
20:19.33itimberit's about the only thing that grew this year
20:19.37itimberthat and bell peppers
20:19.42PoeticIntensityeither that, or I'll just have to duct-tape him to the ceiling for the next 2 days, again.
20:19.50itimbermy chickens ate all my tomatoes
20:19.56PoeticIntensityLOL
20:20.00PoeticIntensityI'd love to see your place, itimber.
20:20.08PoeticIntensitysounds like a fun joint.
20:20.15itimberit's on google too
20:20.16itimberLOL
20:20.24PoeticIntensityya know... chickens and farm life and all.
20:20.27PoeticIntensitygood times...
20:20.41itimberand we're in the middle of town.....
20:20.50itimbersomeday we're going to buy an actual farm
20:21.02itimber2-10 acres
20:21.11itimberso, not a *real* farm
20:21.22itimberbut enough that we can do some good stuff
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20:22.05PoeticIntensityall my uncles on my dad's side are farmers.
20:22.21PoeticIntensitygood times makin' forts out of haystacks... :)
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20:23.41itimberfo sho
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21:01.04SunSparchttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxhYampIl7A
21:06.43mgearyholy cow
21:07.15mgearydang. too bad i already voted. i've been had
21:12.30SunSparcmgeary: hehe
21:12.50SunSparcInteresting video
21:18.55mgearynot really
21:19.11mgearyjust says the same thing over and over again, with no real substantiation
21:19.46mgearythe Rush Limbaugh approach: say it enough times, loudly enough, and it doesn't matter if you provide any evidence
21:19.51SunSparcWell then I am glad I did not watch the whole thing
21:20.11mgearywell, full disclosure, i stopped about 2/3 in
21:20.18mgearyfor the above reason
21:20.33SunSparc:)
21:20.40mgeary;)
21:20.54SunSparcThis one is better anyway:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37X1t1Myz7A
21:37.41mgeary~rlart
21:37.42jbotfarts in eco's general direction
21:37.46mgearybah
21:38.10mgeary~lart josephscott
21:38.10jbotinstalls a bad bootloader on josephscott and turns josephscott into a brick
21:38.19mgearythere we go
21:38.32josephscottwell, I have been working out :-)
21:38.42SunSparc~rlart
21:38.43jbotburns mgeary to a crisp with a laser
21:38.52mgearywell, there's karma for ya
21:39.48SunSparc~karma mgeary
21:39.48jbotmgeary has karma of 9
21:39.53mgearywoot
21:39.57mgeary~karma thebigdog
21:39.57jbotthebigdog has karma of 9
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21:40.08mgeary~karma Jacob_Kerr
21:40.08jbotjacob_kerr has neutral karma
21:40.16SunSparc~karma timinator
21:40.16jbottiminator has karma of 3
21:40.18Jacob_KerrGood afternoon and Happy Halloween!!!
21:43.44SunSparcHappy Halloween Jacob_Kerr
21:57.55itimberkarma itimber
21:58.01itimber~karma itimber
21:58.01jbotitimber has karma of 1
21:58.09mgearyawww
21:58.12itimberdang... perhaps I should switch back
21:58.13mgeary~console itimber
21:58.14jbotACTION gives itimber the consolation moose
21:58.21itimberhmmph
22:00.03jsmith~buy itimber karma-point
22:00.05jbotACTION goes to S-Mart and gets a dozen karma-points for itimber
22:00.14itimberty jbot
22:00.22itimber~jsmith++
22:05.50carmony~karma carmony
22:05.50jbotcarmony has neutral karma
22:06.03carmony:p
22:10.30SunSparchehe
22:10.38SunSparcGotta earn em carmony
22:10.49wpswhy doesn't MS winders believe you when you click the "I want to restart my computer LATER (after installing updates)" button?
22:11.21wpsit doesn't think you really mean it… or perhaps things you might have changed your mind after ten minutes and KEEPS ASKING YOU!!!
22:11.43Utah_Davewps: Oh, I hate that "feature"
22:12.08wps~wedgie ms winders
22:12.08jbotACTION hangs ms winders from the flag pole by his underwear
22:12.11Utah_Daveespecially when it gives you a count down to restart
22:12.12carmonywps and Utah_Dave, amen!
22:12.16SunSparcFirst "feature" I turn off in Windoze
22:12.34Utah_DaveI love coming back from lunch to a login screen.
22:14.13wpsI'm dying waiting for my new MBP to come
22:14.44SunSparcI want that new MBP.  They look sweet.
22:14.55SunSparcNot that I do not still love my first gen.
22:15.04wpsthis early 2008 model just isn't cutting it any more for some reason :)
22:15.45wpsI hate that I hate to order it, opposed to just waling over to the Gateway on my lunch and picking it up
22:15.52wps(hate to order it because it's through work)
22:15.57wpss/hate/had/
22:16.41wpsI also hate that I don't type well
22:18.59SunSparcjbot, give wps typing lessons
22:19.00jbotACTION gives typing lessons to wps
22:26.14mgearywps: i'll be interested to hear in your experiences with it, though i won't be in the market for a new laptop for at least a year
22:33.24SunSparcLater all!
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22:37.37wpsI'll let you know. I went for the top.
22:38.09mgearywell yeah, if work's paying...
22:38.13wps2.8 GHz, 4 GB DDR3 SDRAM, 320 GB 7200 RPM HHD
22:57.57mgearyyeah, that's awesome
22:58.17mgearythough i'd love to see the real-world performance on one of those solid-state drives
23:04.50itimberfo sho
23:05.18itimberSSD sounds cool... but is it worth the loss of GBs and the $$???
23:06.23mgearydoubt it
23:06.28mgearybut i'd like to know the performance
23:06.29itimberand then.... it's really like having your VRAM as actual RAM.... so could you go w/ less RAM and not see a difference?
23:06.50mgearyheh. remember the old trick of using a ramdisk to save your laptop battery?
23:06.54itimberthings that make itimber go hmmmm
23:07.27itimberI wasn't on a laptop at that point
23:09.00itimbergotta run.... later guys
23:27.35dr_MJman, what a day

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