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00:00.09fungusttfn
00:00.23jsmithcarmony: OK... have him send me a resume
00:00.29carmonyjsmith, will do :)
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00:28.07carmonyjsmith, where in San Diego is the company, more or less?
00:29.27jsmithcarmony: No clue... let me look up the address
00:30.27jsmithNear Miramar golf course
00:31.28carmonyjsmith, if your offices are in AL and CA, how did you endup in uphpu? ;)
00:32.40jsmithcarmony: I used to live in Utah... I now live in Virginia... go figure ;-)
00:32.50jsmithcarmony: In all honesty, I'm a telecommuter
00:32.58carmonyI love telecommuting :)
00:33.05carmonyI work for a San Diego company right now
00:33.20carmonyI make a great wage for Utah standards, and I save the San Diego company money :)
00:33.30jsmithcarmony: That being said, I travel more than most people in the company due to the nature of my job, so even if I lived in Alabama I'd still be on the road a lot
00:33.52jsmithI have the opposite problem... the cost of living here is more expensive than Alabama :-/
00:34.06carmonylol, no good :P
00:34.22carmonyHey, this developer just has a few questions about the company, should I have him email you?
01:01.12Utah_Daveman, I finally got all my sed/regex stuff figured out.
01:01.21Utah_DaveTime for some peanut M&M's
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14:22.50mgeary_ping mindjuju
14:25.28mindjujuyo sup
14:25.37mindjujuwas was wonnerin' about that file
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14:27.47carmonyGood Morning uphpu
14:28.07jsmithMorning all
14:28.32mindjujusup to all
14:29.20jsmithmindjuju: Just enjoying a nice fall day... inside, in front of a computer :-/
14:30.06mindjujuyeah, but at least you have the ability to go outside for a breathe of fresh air, if i go outside my office, i just get a lungful of smogy inversion :(
14:34.11carmonylol, where are you located at mindjuju?
14:35.35jsmithmindjuju: Absolutely... and I can do some skeet shooting off my back porch if I get the urge
14:37.19mindjujucarmony, i'm in draper
14:37.27mindjujuthough today isn't so smogy
14:38.10carmonyjsmith, did that developer email you?
14:38.35jsmithcarmony: Yes... and I've forwarded his info to the appropriate people inside the company
14:38.52carmonyalright, sounds good :)
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15:28.12mindjuju~apb mgeary
15:28.13jbotACTION hires baby Lyssa to rough up mgeary
15:28.16mgearyouch
15:31.50carmonythats never good
15:32.36mindjujuoh, i don't know, she's kinda cute
15:32.42mindjujua little rough up might be nice
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15:49.44mgeary~kinky mindjuju
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15:53.52mindjujuflying toasters here i come
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16:07.28SunSparcWith 4gb of ram, 320gb 2700 rpm drive, and fastest cpu
16:07.49carmony2700 rpm drive?? ;) me thinks typo
16:07.50SunSparccarmony: Hehe, yeah he is dangerous with a sniper rifle and a grenade
16:07.57_psychic_carmony: I think I got you with nades more than my .50 cal
16:08.03SunSparcYes, indeed a typo
16:08.15_psychic_carmony: so... how did we (and more importantly I) stack up?
16:08.26SunSparccarmony: you were pretty good last night
16:08.35carmonyYou guys do well :) I'm so rusty
16:08.45SunSparcIt was fun, for sure.
16:09.06SunSparcWe need to do some headquarters next time.
16:09.16carmonyI just wish we had a ventrillo channel so I could hear the screams of agony I cause.... ;)
16:09.26SunSparchehe, yeah, that would be nice.
16:09.38_psychic_we don't usually need it cause we're all more or less in the same room
16:09.49_psychic_but yes, the cries of the fallen are pretty funny sometimes
16:10.18carmonyyea, see, I'm not in teh same room, so I don't get to fuel my leetness of the fallen ;)
16:10.22SunSparcEspecially when you don't run away fast enough after killing _psychic_
16:10.31_psychic_haha
16:10.41_psychic_you think you guys would learn after a while
16:10.42_psychic_but no
16:10.46carmonylol
16:10.46SunSparclol
16:10.48_psychic_which makes it funnier everytime
16:11.37SunSparc~martyrdom--
16:11.53_psychic_it's not my fault you jump on my nades
16:11.55carmonyWell I got to get out of "Domination" mode :p
16:12.09_psychic_the sabo runs we did were pretty fun
16:12.14dataw0lfMartyrdom is cheap.  Against noobs, anyways.
16:12.21dataw0lfHardcore DM++
16:12.24carmonywhen I domination online with lots of people (30+) I play a little more kamokazi
16:12.53_psychic_DM == camp fest
16:13.05dataw0lfI don't camp.
16:13.21SunSparcCamping == boring
16:13.33dataw0lfAnd I'll play Domination, Heardquarters, or Search & Destroy, too.  But generally I only play those during clan matches.
16:13.42dataw0lfotherwise Hardcore DM or Free-for-all
16:14.00_psychic_killhouse ffa is fun :)
16:14.01dataw0lf78 free-for-all matches won in a row
16:14.02dataw0lfson
16:15.26dataw0lfAhhh, I used to be of that opinion too.
16:15.52dataw0lfUntil I realized with a sensitivity of 10 I'm basically as fast as I ever was at Counter Strike (in which I was extremely fast)
16:16.15_psychic_do you have the game on PC?
16:16.22mindjujufast at running away from me and my skillz
16:16.38dataw0lfmindjuju: you sure talk a lot of smack for someone who won't come on Xbox Live and prove it.
16:16.52mindjujumeh, don't own a 360
16:17.17dataw0lf_psychic_: Nope, I've played it briefly at a couple LAN parties, but I prefer to hack or code when I'm on a computer, not play games, unless it's the odd game of Civ IV on my Macbook.
16:17.54dataw0lfI was pretty serious at the clan Counter Strike for years (member of Meepins, a rather good pro clan back in the day)
16:17.58_psychic_hack | code == play games to me :)
16:18.17dataw0lfbut my programming suffered as a result, so I strive to keep my gameplaying on computers at a minimum
16:18.22_psychic_gotcha
16:18.38dataw0lfbut yea, I used to scoff at the FPS on consoles too.
16:18.51_psychic_it's not so much scoff as it is revulse
16:19.00_psychic_It's like typing with boxing gloves on
16:19.04_psychic_I could probably master it
16:19.07_psychic_I just don't want to :)
16:20.40dataw0lfI wish I could record some of the fantastic things I do, like in Halo 3 (bleeech)
16:21.09dataw0lfthat's the one crappy part about Call of Duty 4 - no built-in recording, sharing, complex statistics like Halo 3
16:21.47dataw0lfI went 49 - 3 on a Domination match yesterday, I need to setup a video recording proxy for my 360 or something.
16:23.56carmonydataw0lf, holdon, you were on Meepins??
16:24.23dataw0lfcarmony: Yea.  I was actually a founder with Josh and Nick Steinlicht, two of my best friends, along with Rusty, a guy we worked with
16:24.55dataw0lfI was 16 and our friend Andrew came up with the word meepins when we ran into this porno store.  Long story
16:25.03carmonylol!
16:25.20carmonyYou guys ever play in CEVO? or were on on Meepins during the CAL era?
16:27.30dataw0lfCAL
16:28.40carmonythats cool :)
16:28.43dataw0lfI think they moved to CPL right around the time I joined the army and stopped playing
16:29.06carmonyyeah, Meepins played in CEVO for a few seasons I believe. They still might
16:31.48mgearyhey, mindjuju
16:32.25mgearyi'm trying to export a table from Access, and it's got too many rows to go out to Excel, but i'm getting an "invalid parameter" error when i try to export to csv. Any insights?
16:33.38dataw0lfcarmony: you should jump on the Live tonight.
16:33.39mindjujuit's prolly got some special symbol in one of the records
16:34.06carmonywe'll see, I've been playing... um... a really, really old school game ;)
16:34.17mindjujui think DTS let's me export as CSV with user defined delimiters
16:34.19mindjujulet me check
16:34.52mgearyi can specify delimiters as well, but it seems to have no impact
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16:35.46itimbermorning guys
16:38.15carmonymorning itimber
16:39.24itimberhow's working in your pajamas treating ya, Mr. I-work-from-home.
16:39.25itimber:)
16:39.38carmonyLOL, wife made me get dressed ;)
16:39.47itimberLOL
16:39.53itimbergood for her
16:40.08carmonyI have a bad habit of checking my email and my google reader before I get ready for the day
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16:40.27itimbernothing wrong with that
16:40.44dataw0lfmorning itimber
16:40.50itimbermorning DW
16:41.16carmonythe problem is that those 2 things are the biggest side-trackers for me, so next thing you know I've answers a dozen emails, fixed a handful of bugs, made a blog entry, and yeah.... its been 3 hours I've been working :p
16:42.38jsmithcarmony: I hear you... I'm always dressed, but I haven't always had a shower before I check email
16:44.24carmonywell my wife and I are still pretty newly weds with no kids, so walkin around in your underware isn't an issue in our house ;)
16:45.04itimberI have a tough time working from home..... cause my To-Do list includes all the home projects
16:45.11itimber+wife +kids
16:45.56carmonylol, itimber, my wife and I were butting heads at first when I was working at home. She'd ask me to do all sorts of little chores while she was at school and work. I'd have a busy day and not do anything, and then she would get mad :p
16:46.46carmonywe came to an agreement that if I was working from home, 9-5 is treated like as if I was at an office, with the promise when I'm done with work I help out, which I do :)
16:46.48carmonyworks well for us
16:46.50itimbercongrats on the newly married part, carmony
16:47.12carmonythanks :) Its been a year+ now and we're still happy :D
16:47.21mgearyi love that iTunes makes the presidential debates and such available for free downloads
16:47.22itimberthat's good
16:47.32itimbermgeary: same
16:47.43SunSparc1 year down, and infinity more to go...
16:50.44_psychic_lol http://blog.indecision2008.com/2008/10/15/the-daily-show-john-mccain-attempts-a-comeback-with-his-recycled/
16:52.04dataw0lfmgeary: yea, and all my favorite news shows, too
16:52.14SunSparchttp://abcnews.go.com/politics/MatchoMatic/fullpage?id=5542139
16:52.22mgearydataw0lf: yes, though i can't go there or i'll waste too much time
16:58.06itimber~drudgereport.com++
17:00.08carmonyuggg... I hate EA: http://www.custompc.co.uk/news/605037/998-of-gamers-dont-care-about-drm-says-ea.html
17:01.09mindjujuamazing
17:01.13mindjujuoops, wrong chan
17:03.18itimbermindjuju: LOL... I hate it when I do that
17:03.27mindjuju:)
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17:20.06macnewboldcarmony: if by "don't care about DRM" he means "don't care about DRM because they circumvent it whenever they want", he may be right
17:45.50carmonylol, true that
18:05.08itimberBRB
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18:08.55mindjujui hate it when ravetrax does that
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19:29.23mgeary~rlart
19:29.24jbothits josephscott with an anvil and laughs with a contralto voice ... Haha Ha HA Ha
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19:36.29carmonywhere do you guys find all these random commands?
19:38.32mgeary~lart carmony
19:38.32jbotwhips out a hot clue gun and makes sure that carmony is stuck to the floor
19:48.59jsmith~buy carmony cluebat
19:49.00jbotACTION goes to S-Mart and gets a dozen cluebats for carmony
19:49.27fungus~taunt carmony
19:49.27jbotACTION taunts carmony a second time
19:52.26unumgood, bad, I'm the one with a gun
19:52.48unumI had a game with that quote and didn't find out where it was from until much later
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20:00.48wpsah-hah!
20:00.56wpsI'm in
20:00.57wpsI need help
20:01.09wpsthe network at my new job has _everything_ blocked
20:01.10wps:(
20:01.28wpsI can't do anything except browse the internet
20:02.08croGot root on a Unix box somewhere else on the Internet?
20:02.09wpsI finally found a web IRC client (mibbit)
20:02.18wpsI do… that's what I was going to ask
20:02.33croSetup an SSH server running on port 80 or 443
20:02.38fungusChange the port that SSH listens to on one of your servers to be 443.
20:02.38wpscan I set something up on my remove server and proxy everything through that or something?
20:02.42croyes
20:02.52crolate versions of SSH support acting like a proxy
20:03.15croPuTTY on Windows in particular supports this pretty well if you are forced to use Windows
20:03.16orsonjssh -D
20:03.18croyeah
20:04.12fungusssh -p 443 -D 8080 <sshserver>
20:04.44fungusThen you can set anything that supports a SOCKS proxy to localhost:8080, and get right out very easy.
20:05.42wpsthey have SSH blocked too though
20:06.08wpsoh…
20:06.11wpsI missed that step
20:06.21wpsyou said to set up SSH to run on 80 or 443
20:06.26croright
20:06.34croor some other unblocked port
20:07.33wpsI currently have SSH on my server only answering on a custom port
20:07.47wpsso I could change that from the custom one I have to anyone one that's non blocked on this network and it should work?
20:07.47crothat's ok, change sshd_config to say
20:07.55croPorts <custom>,443
20:08.00croand that should listen on both
20:08.02croI think
20:08.07orsonjsounds right
20:08.23wpsit's been a few years since I customized that on my server
20:08.34wpsanyone know where that setting is off the top of your head?
20:08.48wpsFedora
20:08.51fungus<PROTECTED>
20:08.54orsonjactually, I have "Port XXX" and "PortXXXX" on two separate lines
20:09.11wpsoh wait… I can't access the box!!!
20:09.14wpsarrrrg
20:09.20wpsI'll have to do it tonight I guess
20:09.48fungusyeah, got a chicken vs egg problem right now
20:11.22mgearyno problem, wps
20:11.27mgearyi'll do it for ya right now
20:11.45wpsalright… let me give you the root password to me server ;)
20:11.51mgearyi've already got it
20:11.55croover IRC :-D
20:12.23mgearyheh. have you guys seen that irc password thing?
20:12.46mgearybad week? getting hacked?
20:12.52mgearydidn't you just get a great new job?
20:12.59wpsyeah
20:13.05wpsthe job's great, but I got the flu monday
20:13.25wpsno complaints about the job except for the iron-locked network
20:13.38wpsthe hacked comment was in response to you having my password
20:13.42mgearyhttp://dpaste.com/84675/
20:14.27mgearythat's awesome
20:15.09wpsha ha ha ha
20:15.18_psychic_ripped from bash.org
20:15.27mgearyyeah, wasn't sure where that was from
20:15.28mgearygoogled it
20:16.36_psychic_http://bash.org/?244321
20:16.44mgearythere ya go
20:23.30wpsis there a scan that I can do to find out what ports aren't blocked on my local network?
20:23.49orsonjdid you try connecting to my machine?
20:24.20wpshad you invited me to?
20:24.23orsonjpm
20:24.24wps(sorry if I missed that)
20:24.27orsonjno prob
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20:31.24wpsI need an AT&T 3G wireless card for my laptop
20:34.51tierraor just tether your phone, but I guess a card would be a little more convenient
20:38.41wpsfor the record... since this channel is logged...
20:39.09wpsI'm not actually going to by-pass my employers security by means of an unauthorized proxy or port-forward
20:39.23thebigdogthat is what thebigdog does
20:39.36thebigdogand reaps the benefits and consequences
20:39.37wpsI was mostly asking because I was curious if it could be done and what my options were as I sit and wait for helpdesk
20:39.53crowps: you are just gathering information for when you need to test services from outside the firewall.
20:45.43orsonjwps: can you access https sites?  you said you could access the web, but did you try https specifically?
20:48.15wpshttps works
20:48.25thebigdogthey block ports
20:48.46orsonjI had him try connecting to port 443 on my computer and it didn't work
20:49.11thebigdogdepends too if they are using a proxy
20:49.19thebigdogwhich they might be using
20:49.51wpsI don't understand how it is more secure when I can do IRC here in a browser
20:50.09orsonjthat's what I was thinking
20:50.14wpsand I could do IM through a browser
20:50.29wpsand I can access my personal email through a browser
20:50.37wpsso, why not let me do that all through their native apps?
20:50.55orsonjThere are php/javascript based shell apps too. (so I have heard from security sites)
20:51.17thebigdogcause http is a stateless proto
20:51.23thebigdogwhere the others ones are stateful
20:51.41_psychic_and the permissions your browser has to your local system are a known quantity
20:51.51_psychic_(unless you're using IE, I suppose ;) )
20:51.57wpsindeed
20:52.16orsonjor flash or java or activex...
20:52.30orsonjor hackervideocodecplugin
20:53.31orsonjI'm curious about the web based shell though. If you set it up on your own https site, that could come in handy
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21:43.05bigdog_utwhy is that?
22:03.43itimberI'm out.... later guys
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22:33.26SunSparcAnyone have a favorite html editor plugin for web forms?  (eg for blog entries)
22:38.11SunSparcTinyMCE or something else?
22:39.14DexterTheDragonthere's tineMCE or fckeditor
22:39.31SunSparcWhat is your preference DexterTheDragon ?
22:39.59SunSparcI played with Tiny a while ago, but never messed with fck
22:40.21DexterTheDragonI've only ever used tiny. so I like that
22:40.31DexterTheDragonbut everyones always telling me that fck is better
22:41.23SunSparcGood to hear.
22:41.36SunSparcThanks for the feedback
22:46.19dataw0lfSunSparc: dsrte is ok.
22:46.20dataw0lfhttp://avidansoft.com/dsrte/
22:46.54SunSparcHmm, never heard of it.  I will check it out.  Thanks.
22:47.16tierraI like fck myself, but I've never distributed it in anything, just used it
22:54.16thebigdogi use fckeditor
22:54.28thebigdogi like how they do their plugins
22:54.34thebigdogi wrote a plugin for it on mine
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22:54.40SunSparctierra: Why did you pick fck?
22:55.00SunSparcthebigdog: Is that why you picked fck, or was there something more?
22:55.29thebigdogi picked it for that reason
22:55.38thebigdogthe plugins are easier to write
22:55.45thebigdogi have used both
22:55.51thebigdogi started with tinymce
22:56.38SunSparcIf plugins were not a consideration, would you still go with fck?
23:01.02SunSparcLooks like Tiny is the preferred pick of the WordPress gang
23:01.18thebigdogand fck is used by the drupal guys
23:01.41thebigdogi would use fck over tiny
23:01.42SunSparcSometimes things just come down to religion, I guess.
23:01.51thebigdogthey are both really good
23:02.19SunSparcWell, I have three choices.  Thanks everyone.  I think I will just install them all and see which I like best.
23:02.28SunSparcSee ya'll tomorrow.
23:02.30DexterTheDragonwant another choice?
23:02.41SunSparcSure
23:02.44DexterTheDragonhttp://www.wymeditor.org/
23:05.00SunSparcHave you used it?
23:05.28DexterTheDragonnope
23:05.37DexterTheDragonjust know its there
23:05.44DexterTheDragonand if your testing them
23:05.55DexterTheDragonbut I would stick to either tiny or fck
23:06.06SunSparcCool, thanks.
23:06.14SunSparcLataz
23:08.46eggyknapGrr...
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