| 00:17.29 | carmony | uggg I hate this previous developer |
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| 05:16.37 | josephscott | ping macnewbold |
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| 05:20.23 | herlo | josephscott: hi |
| 05:20.38 | josephscott | herlo: hi |
| 05:20.42 | herlo | how's things? |
| 05:21.21 | josephscott | just busy wordpress stuff :-) |
| 05:21.26 | herlo | ahh, fun |
| 05:21.39 | herlo | I should be busy too, but I got tired all of the sudden... |
| 05:22.38 | josephscott | trying to wrap up a few things before I call it a night |
| 05:22.54 | herlo | :) well have a good one... |
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| 14:27.15 | carmony | Good morning uphpu |
| 14:28.06 | mindjuju | morning carmony |
| 14:28.47 | carmony | I swear, if I ever meet the guy who started jQuery, I'm gonna give him $100 bucks on the spot :p |
| 14:33.19 | herlo | carmony: I'm going to spend some time learning jquery today |
| 14:33.44 | carmony | herlo: it is awesome. It makes doing cool things sooooo much easier. |
| 14:34.04 | carmony | let me know if you have any questions :) |
| 14:34.16 | herlo | will do |
| 14:36.06 | carmony | and the most useful website besides their docs is: http://visualjquery.com/ |
| 14:36.22 | carmony | its like a quick reference tool :) |
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| 14:42.51 | itimber | morning guys |
| 14:42.58 | mindjuju | morning |
| 14:46.11 | carmony | moring :) |
| 14:46.28 | carmony | herlo: here is something I made the other day with jquery: http://screencast.com/t/zu8MHrdsj2 |
| 14:49.44 | herlo | carmony: very nice, semi-close to what I want to do... |
| 14:50.46 | carmony | I don't blame ya |
| 14:52.57 | carmony | lol :p I've fallen victum to that before |
| 15:01.09 | mindjuju | carmony <> linux very well |
| 15:01.25 | mindjuju | not that i know it much better, but |
| 15:01.32 | mindjuju | hang on quick sec, i'll show ya something |
| 15:04.06 | mindjuju | @carmony - http://www.junauza.com/2008/01/freeopen-source-first-person-shooter.html |
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| 15:06.20 | carmony | While those games look fun, there are tons of games I <3 that don't run on linux :p |
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| 15:10.46 | mindjuju | carmony - sorry took so longto post this - http://www.playdeb.net/available_games.html |
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| 15:47.49 | mgeary | ~rlart |
| 15:47.50 | jbot | explains, ever so gently, that if PoeticIntensity doesn't give the channel more information, they can't help |
| 15:47.53 | mgeary | bah |
| 15:48.08 | bwelker | ~rlart |
| 15:48.08 | jbot | farts in olds's general direction |
| 15:48.34 | SunSparc | ~rlart |
| 15:48.34 | jbot | shoots wps in the head |
| 15:48.40 | mgeary | ouch |
| 15:48.43 | bwelker | well geez |
| 15:48.52 | mgeary | ~overkill SunSparc |
| 15:48.54 | SunSparc | so violent, jbot |
| 15:49.04 | SunSparc | jbot, go to your room |
| 15:49.15 | bwelker | seriously, the first two were mildly humorous at least |
| 15:49.28 | bwelker | ~lart jbot |
| 15:49.28 | jbot | overclocks bwelker until bwelker burns out |
| 15:49.41 | SunSparc | heh |
| 15:49.53 | bwelker | knew it would happen eventually |
| 15:50.06 | bwelker | too much caffiene is no good for anybody |
| 15:50.23 | bwelker | sweeeet |
| 15:50.30 | bwelker | now i have three cores |
| 15:51.36 | SunSparc | speaking of how good caffeine is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHzdsFiBbFc |
| 15:55.40 | DexterTheDragon | http://www.cannabis.net/weblife.html |
| 15:56.34 | bwelker | lol |
| 16:03.42 | SunSparc | I wonder if those are actual studies or just an internet myth. Snopes has nothing on it that I could find. |
| 16:04.21 | bwelker | they've been around for quite a while, so i'm inclined to believe them, the second one at least, the first one is pretty funny though |
| 16:04.39 | SunSparc | :) |
| 16:04.55 | DexterTheDragon | They've been doing spider drug studies for awhile now |
| 16:06.50 | bwelker | http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=mg14619750.500 |
| 16:07.59 | SunSparc | Wow, I did not watch the video I posted all the way through until now. lol, but sorry for the language. |
| 16:08.38 | bwelker | doesn't bother me, thought it was hilarious |
| 16:09.04 | SunSparc | :) |
| 16:09.43 | mindjuju | thebigdog , you going to geek lunch today? |
| 16:09.48 | thebigdog | not sure |
| 16:10.02 | mindjuju | d00d! |
| 16:10.03 | thebigdog | i want to but i might have a meeting |
| 16:10.42 | mindjuju | "might have a meeting" == "don't think i want to go" |
| 16:10.49 | mindjuju | :( |
| 16:11.06 | SunSparc | Where is geek lunch today? |
| 16:11.18 | mindjuju | the happy sumo in the SLC |
| 16:11.23 | SunSparc | Oh |
| 16:11.49 | mindjuju | can you go? |
| 16:11.51 | SunSparc | When is the next one that is closer to Utah Valley? |
| 16:12.08 | bwelker | nevah |
| 16:12.14 | SunSparc | ~lart bwelker |
| 16:12.15 | jbot | drops a baby grand on bwelker |
| 16:12.28 | SunSparc | good one jbot, now that was funny |
| 16:12.30 | bwelker | hey, i always wanted to learn to play |
| 16:12.38 | SunSparc | :) |
| 16:12.49 | mindjuju | sunsparc, working on getting something down there |
| 16:12.59 | SunSparc | mindjuju: sweet |
| 16:13.10 | josephscott | mindjuju: I'll probably be there for lunch |
| 16:13.15 | bwelker | is there anywhere good to eat down there, besides Cafe Rio? |
| 16:13.22 | bwelker | ;) |
| 16:13.37 | SunSparc | mindjuju: There is a really tasty place called flourgirlsdoughboys.com but it is small. |
| 16:14.08 | SunSparc | And the lunch rush takes forever, so it would be best to go earlier or later. |
| 16:14.09 | mindjuju | josephscott - that'd be awesome! |
| 16:14.47 | SunSparc | bwelker: AF has all sorts of good places to eat. |
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| 16:18.28 | mgeary | yeah, they've got Burger King, Wendy's, Taco Bell, ummm.... |
| 16:18.46 | SunSparc | :p mgeary |
| 16:18.55 | mgeary | ;) |
| 16:20.09 | bwelker | i know there's an arbys down there somewhere, ex girlfrien d worked there |
| 16:20.10 | SunSparc | Google says: Results 1-10 of about 10,000 for food, near American Fork, UT |
| 16:20.22 | bwelker | Google lies |
| 16:20.22 | SunSparc | http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=food,+american+fork+utah&ie=UTF8&t=h&z=14 |
| 16:20.24 | mgeary | your mom's kitchen doesn't count, SunSparc |
| 16:20.38 | SunSparc | ~supaplex mgeary |
| 16:20.39 | bwelker | nor do all the outdoor dog food bowls |
| 16:20.49 | bwelker | ~suplex mgeary |
| 16:21.00 | SunSparc | ~headlock bwelker |
| 16:21.08 | bwelker | ~bwelker SunSparc |
| 16:21.09 | jbot | ACTION asks SunSparc lots of questions, and completely distracts him from his train of thought |
| 16:21.14 | SunSparc | lol |
| 16:22.19 | bwelker | don't mess with the bwelker =) |
| 16:22.38 | bwelker | the bwelker is inquisitive |
| 16:22.57 | SunSparc | ~chuck bwelker |
| 16:23.17 | SunSparc | ~chucknorris bwelker |
| 16:23.17 | jbot | ACTION wheel kicks bwelker |
| 16:23.26 | DexterTheDragon | ~chuckfact |
| 16:23.27 | jbot | When the Boogeyman goes to sleep every night, he checks his closet for Chuck Norris |
| 16:25.00 | bwelker | ~bdhit SunSparc |
| 16:25.00 | jbot | ACTION launches the Knee of the Crippled Roosters and smiles at SunSparc's pain |
| 16:25.32 | SunSparc | ~nuke bwelker |
| 16:25.33 | jbot | ACTION prepares 100 missle silos, and targets them at bwelker ... Bâ¢â¢M! |
| 16:26.03 | bwelker | ~macnewbold SunSparc |
| 16:26.04 | jbot | ACTION wallops SunSparc with a flip-flop |
| 16:26.20 | DexterTheDragon | ~mancard bwelker |
| 16:26.21 | jbot | ACTION bwelker has his ManCard replaced with a couple of very small berry fruits ... |
| 16:26.29 | bwelker | lol |
| 16:26.39 | SunSparc | lol |
| 16:26.43 | bwelker | berry fruits... awesome |
| 16:26.52 | bwelker | ~berryfruit DexterTheDragon |
| 16:41.40 | mgeary | holy cow |
| 16:42.00 | SunSparc | you mean, santa vaca |
| 16:42.11 | mgeary | Amazon S3 is changing their storage costs. Old price: 15 center per gig per month. New price: fifteen cents for the first 50 TERABYTES per month |
| 16:42.11 | DexterTheDragon | possessed sheep |
| 16:42.36 | mindjuju | ZOINKS! |
| 16:42.39 | SunSparc | wow! |
| 16:42.49 | mgeary | i'll bet Amazon's plan is to convince the entire world to put their data there, and then to suddenly hold it hostage |
| 16:42.51 | bwelker | what if i just want one TB |
| 16:43.08 | bwelker | cuz there's no need for anybody to have more than 64 MB |
| 16:43.11 | unum | mgeary: so you agree with rms :) |
| 16:43.23 | mgeary | unum: heh. you saw that article too, eh? |
| 16:43.38 | mgeary | nothing like good old, healthy paranoia |
| 16:44.16 | carmony | mgeary: are you SERIOUS? |
| 16:44.23 | carmony | what about bandwidth? |
| 16:44.30 | unum | mgeary: I tend to lean that way myself |
| 16:44.33 | mgeary | they don't say, so presumably that hasn't changed |
| 16:44.45 | unum | it drives me nuts when people in my company want to use google services |
| 16:44.47 | carmony | bandwidth has always been the more "expensive" side of it |
| 16:45.07 | carmony | unum: what google services don't you like? |
| 16:45.17 | mgeary | carmony: $0.100 per GB â all data transfer in, $0.170 per GB â first 10 TB / month data transfer out, $0.01 per 1,000 PUT, POST, or LIST requests, $0.01 per 10,000 GET and all other requests |
| 16:45.38 | carmony | link? :) |
| 16:45.42 | mgeary | http://aws.amazon.com/s3/#pricing |
| 16:46.47 | fungus | so the amazon pricing change only affects those who store >50TB |
| 16:47.04 | fungus | Not that big of a deal really. |
| 16:47.20 | unum | carmony: I just don't like using out side services for things that can be done in house easily |
| 16:47.50 | mgeary | fungus: not so. the changes affect anyone who stores more than 1GB |
| 16:47.54 | unum | I don't like having corporate data stored outside the server room |
| 16:48.05 | carmony | Ah, like documents, email, etc |
| 16:48.16 | unum | ya |
| 16:48.18 | carmony | I agree with you on that |
| 16:48.19 | fungus | No, it's still 15 cents per GB until you reach the 50TB limit. |
| 16:48.25 | fungus | Then it's 14 cents per GB |
| 16:48.58 | mgeary | fungus: ahh. their email is worded differently than that link i sent |
| 16:49.01 | mgeary | in the email it says: |
| 16:49.12 | mgeary | New storage price (effective Nov 1, 2008) |
| 16:49.13 | mgeary | $0.150 First 50 TB / month of storage used |
| 16:49.23 | mgeary | which is different than: |
| 16:49.24 | mgeary | $0.150 per GB â first 50 TB / month of storage used |
| 16:49.31 | fungus | Yes, that is different. |
| 16:49.51 | fungus | 15 cents per 50TB would have been insane. |
| 16:49.56 | mgeary | i'm guessing someone at Amazon is yelling at whoever wrote this email right about now |
| 16:50.03 | mgeary | fungus: exactly. hence my "holy cow" |
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| 17:08.21 | itimber | sup cro |
| 17:08.29 | cro | yo! |
| 17:10.22 | mgeary | hrm. any advice on killing apache when kill -9 doesn't do it? |
| 17:11.15 | mindjuju | power plug? |
| 17:11.22 | mindjuju | c4? |
| 17:11.26 | cro | Are you sure you are killing the right process? |
| 17:11.33 | mgeary | cro: please |
| 17:12.06 | mindjuju | emp palpy lightning bolts from the hands |
| 17:12.12 | cro | no, seriously, because Apache forks itself several times, sometimes I kill the child by accident when I really want to kill the parent |
| 17:12.20 | mindjuju | tesla coil |
| 17:12.26 | SunSparc | mgeary: killall |
| 17:12.28 | josephscott | apachectl |
| 17:12.36 | mgeary | tried both of those |
| 17:12.40 | SunSparc | Yeah apachectl or init.d |
| 17:12.45 | dataw0lf | http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2008_10/015092.php |
| 17:12.54 | mgeary | apachectl just hangs, and killall comes back but doesn't actually kill anything |
| 17:12.59 | mgeary | trying a soft reboot |
| 17:17.42 | cro | mindjuju: Lunch is @ 1, right? |
| 17:17.52 | mindjuju | yup |
| 17:17.54 | mindjuju | you coming? |
| 17:18.00 | cro | I am |
| 17:18.02 | cro | I'm stoked |
| 17:18.18 | mindjuju | awesome! |
| 17:18.39 | mgeary | psh, dataw0lf, next you'll be claiming that we can solve our oil problems by inflating our tires to, psh, the proper pressure |
| 17:18.46 | thebigdog | ~flip itimber |
| 17:18.47 | jbot | ACTION gives itimber the .|.. ..|. |
| 17:19.10 | itimber | ~flip back to thebigdog |
| 17:19.10 | jbot | ACTION gives back to thebigdog the .|.. ..|. |
| 17:19.58 | itimber | ~smack thebigdog for dissing itimber on his FaceBook profile |
| 17:19.58 | jbot | ACTION smacks thebigdog for dissing itimber on his FaceBook profile upside the head. |
| 17:33.43 | dataw0lf | mgeary: I know, rite?! inflating tires lol! |
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| 17:48.56 | PoeticIntensity | political bickering brought to new lows.... |
| 17:49.09 | PoeticIntensity | don't people have better / more important things to bicker about? |
| 17:49.11 | PoeticIntensity | heh... |
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| 17:52.32 | jsmith | Like what? vim vs. emacs? PHP vs. Python vs. Perl vs. Ruby vs. Erlang vs. Lisp vs. Scheme vs. Prolog vs. COBOL vs. Eiffel? |
| 17:52.53 | jsmith | Humans are territorial... and no amount of culture can cure that. |
| 17:53.15 | mgeary | hey, jsmith, get off my lawn |
| 17:53.34 | jsmith | mgeary: My lawn's bigger than your lawn. |
| 17:53.58 | jsmith | mgeary: You wanna do something 'bout it?!? |
| 17:53.58 | mgeary | that's probably true, but you may be the only one here who can say that |
| 17:54.05 | jsmith | :-) |
| 17:54.33 | mgeary | you're on what, like 5 acres? |
| 17:54.33 | jsmith | Well, part of it is now sidewalks |
| 17:54.38 | mgeary | with 60 more next door? |
| 17:54.43 | jsmith | mgeary: I've only got three, but most of it is lawn |
| 17:54.54 | jsmith | mgeary: But I'm surrounded by ~360 of family land |
| 17:55.06 | mgeary | ~compound jsmith |
| 17:55.10 | mgeary | where do you keep the guns? |
| 17:55.37 | jsmith | mgeary: Anywhere I want :-) |
| 17:55.48 | jsmith | mgeary: I'm probably the only one here that can do skeet shooting from his back porch. |
| 17:55.48 | mgeary | ~FBIraid jsmith |
| 17:56.09 | jsmith | mgeary: I'm right next to Quantico... it wouldn't take them long to get here |
| 18:03.34 | mindjuju | anybody have a good regex for emails? |
| 18:03.43 | mindjuju | email addresses that is |
| 18:04.37 | unum | I just steal it off of regex.info every time |
| 18:04.47 | unum | I wish that slight wasn't so slow |
| 18:11.42 | itimber | I use this function: http://pastebin.com/m6ba4953 |
| 18:12.25 | itimber | as it does some regex, then checks for a MX record |
| 18:12.56 | fungus | That's a cool idea, but it could be slow |
| 18:13.52 | itimber | I've had no probs, but it doesn't get heavy use on my systems |
| 18:13.57 | mindjuju | don't need to validate against an MX record as much as I need to go through a file and yank out all valid email addys |
| 18:14.01 | itimber | just user signups |
| 18:14.40 | mindjuju | unum - where on that page is it? |
| 18:14.46 | itimber | try this then: |
| 18:15.03 | itimber | if (!eregi("^([a-z0-9]+)([._-]([a-z0-9]+))*[@]([a-z0-9]+)([._-]([a-z0-9]+))*[.]([a-z0-9]){2}([a-z0-9])?$", $v["email"])) { /* whatever */ } |
| 18:15.32 | fungus | itimber: also, you may want to use the getmxrr() and gethostbyname() functions instead of forking a call to host. |
| 18:15.56 | itimber | hmmm... hadn't thought of that |
| 18:15.58 | itimber | thx |
| 18:17.51 | fungus | Also, you are excluding addresses containing a + in that regex |
| 18:19.08 | fungus | also, domains with .jobs .info and .name TLDs |
| 18:22.37 | unum | http://www.regular-expressions.info/ |
| 18:22.39 | itimber | huh... sure 'nuf |
| 18:22.44 | unum | oops I gave the wrong link earlier |
| 18:23.18 | unum | if you go to the new link and click on examples |
| 18:23.26 | unum | you'll find it under more detailed examples |
| 18:23.51 | unum | I guess it is on the homepages as well |
| 18:24.52 | unum | on the example page he explains the trade offs |
| 18:25.37 | fungus | Very interesting about the TLDs, especially with the possibility of ICAAN opening them up to anyone. |
| 18:26.39 | unum | ya |
| 18:29.26 | josephscott | DexterTheDragon: you going to lunch? |
| 18:30.14 | itimber | theirs appears much simpler than mine: [A-Z0-9._%+-]+@[A-Z0-9.-]+\.[A-Z]{2,4} |
| 18:37.36 | DexterTheDragon | josephscott: Yeah |
| 18:37.45 | DexterTheDragon | josephscott: mac says he'll be here in 10 mins |
| 18:37.47 | josephscott | just got word mac is on his way here |
| 18:37.50 | josephscott | k |
| 18:38.02 | josephscott | hoping this place has cooked items as well |
| 18:38.16 | DexterTheDragon | a few |
| 19:19.50 | mgeary | what does this tell you about this server's kernel: |
| 19:19.51 | mgeary | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:22.22 | SunSparc | mgeary: It tells me they need to revamp their revisioning scheme |
| 19:22.38 | mgeary | apparently it's RHEL-5 (i think). So, can someone slowly and precisely tell me how to add a repo to this server's yum config? |
| 19:23.20 | unum | what does /etc/redhat-release tell you? |
| 19:24.06 | mgeary | CentOS release 5.2 (Final) |
| 19:24.17 | unum | oh well that changes everything |
| 19:24.43 | thebigdog | anyone here work for netdeposit? |
| 19:24.49 | unum | I usually just edit /etc/yum.repos.d/ and copy existing lines |
| 19:24.50 | mgeary | i think i might actually be off and running here |
| 19:25.05 | unum | but fozzmoo has shown me that atleast with some repositories there's a simply yum command |
| 19:26.03 | dataw0lf | http://lh3.ggpht.com/abramsv/SO2t9_5C5nI/AAAAAAAAg6Y/8yYFNtK9tfQ/s1600-h/image0011.jpg |
| 19:26.26 | SunSparc | heh, "Where's my dinner!" |
| 19:29.37 | SunSparc | or, "Hmmm, I thought they said dinner was a 5..." |
| 19:36.25 | unum | I really need to figure out what's going on with UNO |
| 19:36.30 | unum | but I think it's over my head |
| 19:36.45 | SunSparc | It is a pretty simple game, really. |
| 19:37.40 | mgeary | is there a way to reset the mysql root login without restarting the mysql server? I've got root access on a machine, but was never given the mysql root pw. It's a production machine, though, and i can't let the DB go down |
| 19:38.04 | unum | I would expect someone going by the name of SunSparc to call it simple |
| 19:38.13 | SunSparc | heh |
| 19:38.26 | SunSparc | Sure is, if you are already logged into mysql as root. |
| 19:38.32 | mgeary | no |
| 19:38.36 | mgeary | i'm into the machine as root, not mysql |
| 19:40.36 | SunSparc | I do not see how to do it without restarting... |
| 19:40.44 | mgeary | yeah |
| 19:40.48 | mgeary | me neither |
| 19:41.09 | mgeary | you'd think you could use mysqladmin as root to do something |
| 19:41.34 | SunSparc | Can you log into mysqladmin as root? |
| 19:41.52 | mgeary | not as mysql root. if i could do that... |
| 19:42.10 | SunSparc | Yeah, just sounded like you might have been in it. |
| 19:42.15 | mgeary | no |
| 19:42.24 | SunSparc | Even with mysqladmin you need to have the root password. |
| 19:42.34 | mgeary | it'd just be nice if it could somehow do userid=0 checking |
| 19:42.43 | unum | it used to confuse me how mysql used "root" as a seperate user |
| 19:43.08 | SunSparc | mgeary: Who set mysql up? |
| 19:43.12 | mgeary | someone else :) |
| 19:43.20 | mgeary | and i can't get ahold of him right now |
| 19:43.27 | SunSparc | :( |
| 19:43.29 | mgeary | yeah |
| 19:43.48 | SunSparc | ~cookie mgeary |
| 19:44.19 | carmony | ~cookie carmony |
| 19:44.27 | carmony | :P |
| 19:44.30 | SunSparc | heh |
| 19:44.37 | carmony | I was hungry.... :p |
| 19:44.57 | SunSparc | jbot, give carmony a cookie |
| 19:44.57 | jbot | ACTION gives carmony a home-baked chocolate chip cookie to cheer him up. |
| 19:45.07 | carmony | yay! :) |
| 19:45.10 | carmony | who owns jbot? |
| 19:45.25 | jsmith | carmony: timriker |
| 19:46.28 | carmony | I haven't seen him on before |
| 19:46.36 | SunSparc | The real question is, who owns timriker? |
| 19:47.23 | jsmith | carmony: He's occasionally in #utah, but not #uphpu |
| 19:47.30 | carmony | cool |
| 19:47.37 | SunSparc | We just borrow her. |
| 19:47.47 | SunSparc | unum: Perhaps this could help you http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UNO_(game) |
| 19:48.01 | carmony | I didn't know there was a #utah |
| 19:48.27 | SunSparc | carmony: Your perspective just broadened ever so slightly. ;) |
| 19:50.44 | carmony | lol |
| 19:52.44 | unum | oops I thought we were in #utah |
| 20:00.40 | carmony | wow... |
| 20:00.57 | carmony | I got jumped and nearly beaten to death in #utah... |
| 20:01.53 | carmony | just cause I use windows :p |
| 20:02.08 | SunSparc | heh, yeah, gotta watch it in there. |
| 20:03.04 | mgeary | #utah isn't really #utah |
| 20:03.35 | carmony | what do you mean mgeary? |
| 20:03.40 | unum | so there's like 3 software packages to create odf documents with php, and none with c++ |
| 20:03.50 | mgeary | seems like it's the utah linux user group channel |
| 20:03.50 | carmony | lol |
| 20:04.13 | mgeary | no, i'm not kidding |
| 20:04.31 | carmony | I'm just worried one day some FOSS elitest is gonna recognize my "heritage" and go crazy on me :p |
| 20:04.32 | thebigdog | #utah is sllug |
| 20:04.36 | mgeary | see |
| 20:04.45 | mgeary | buncha l@m3rz |
| 20:04.46 | unum | I thought it was more plug |
| 20:04.55 | mgeary | even herlo hangs out there |
| 20:05.07 | unum | of course if you want foss elitest you need to join the fslc chatroom |
| 20:05.16 | unum | they of course run their own server |
| 20:09.41 | carmony | wtf? #linspire is invite only? |
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| 20:39.10 | carmony | in css, can I tell an input textbox that has been CSS'd all to crap to just use the default background and border? |
| 20:40.49 | SunSparc | carmony: Not that I know of, not without undoing all the cascading styles manually. Are the styles made to id's, and classes or to actually elements? |
| 20:41.16 | carmony | elements |
| 20:41.32 | carmony | I want to mail the original CSS developers a copy of CSS for Dummies or something.. |
| 20:41.56 | SunSparc | :) |
| 20:43.21 | carmony | actually, my favorite CSS book is CSS Mastery by Andy Budd |
| 20:44.03 | mgeary | man, i wish it were easy to do sftp for virtual user accounts |
| 20:44.12 | mgeary | proftpd is giving me fits |
| 20:44.29 | SunSparc | carmony: my favorite CSS resource is CSS Zen Garden |
| 20:44.33 | thebigdog | carmony, you can do it with javascript probably after it has been rendered |
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| 20:46.42 | carmony | SunSparc: my only issue with CSS Zen Garden is somethings their stuff is too "CSS" ish |
| 20:47.23 | SunSparc | Yeah, it is more owned by designers than programmers I think. |
| 20:47.53 | carmony | I want to do a CSS Zen Garden, but the HTML is multiple pages and its a large site. Zen Garden is more for "blog" like sites :p |
| 20:50.08 | SunSparc | :) |
| 20:52.00 | carmony | I think I'm going to have to fly out to San Diego and set up my boss with a local dev enviroment.... |
| 20:52.14 | carmony | he just does html and some css |
| 20:52.23 | carmony | but "testing" it he makes like 100-200 commits |
| 20:52.42 | mgeary | why save your work when you can commit? |
| 20:53.09 | SunSparc | :) |
| 20:53.53 | carmony | I'm looking at our Trac timeline, and we have pages of "tweak" entries |
| 20:54.29 | SunSparc | Gives new meaning to "atomic commits" :) |
| 21:10.32 | thebigdog | that is funny |
| 21:36.55 | SunSparc | I am digging on the goth metal lately |
| 21:44.21 | mechentry | SunSparc: like who? just curious because I've started listening to some as well |
| 21:46.14 | SunSparc | Evanescence, of course, and Within Temptation |
| 21:46.38 | SunSparc | mechentry: I recently made a Within Temptation station on Pandora and am finding some good stuff that way. |
| 21:46.44 | SunSparc | ~pandora++ |
| 21:47.16 | SunSparc | Sirenia is pretty cool, and Nightwish |
| 21:47.46 | mechentry | cool, I started with Pandora that way too, a Lacuna Coil station |
| 21:48.47 | SunSparc | Hmm, Lacuna Coil, I will have to try them out... |
| 21:49.34 | SunSparc | Heh, the first some that station gave me was Evanescence. Awesome. |
| 21:56.09 | wps | jbot, restrain carmony |
| 21:59.27 | wps | spam is so weird |
| 21:59.36 | wps | I just received a message with this subject |
| 21:59.37 | wps | "Japan Valentine chocs send bitter messages" |
| 21:59.42 | wps | huh? |
| 22:02.44 | carmony | I need a stress ball |
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| 22:04.47 | SunSparc | carmony: What music are you listening to? |
| 22:07.23 | carmony | Muse |
| 22:07.28 | carmony | was Coldplay earlier |
| 22:09.38 | redroy | Muse, awesome |
| 22:13.48 | SunSparc | carmony: You should switch to some Enya so you don't break anything. |
| 22:14.03 | SunSparc | Yeah, I like Muse also. |
| 22:15.52 | SunSparc | hehe |
| 22:16.14 | SunSparc | I enjoy good Celtic music also. |
| 22:16.48 | SunSparc | Although it is interesting how similar some Celtic can be to Country as if Country may have roots in Celtic music. |
| 22:18.11 | wps | someone posted a link to a sweet file uploader a few months ago |
| 22:18.14 | wps | anyone remember that? |
| 22:20.34 | carmony | web based? |
| 22:20.35 | SunSparc | wps: Flash uploader? |
| 22:20.42 | wps | yes |
| 22:21.04 | orsonj | swfuploader? |
| 22:21.18 | SunSparc | I did, let me find it... |
| 22:21.34 | orsonj | swfupload.org for that one |
| 22:21.51 | wps | I think that that was the one |
| 22:21.51 | wps | thanks |
| 22:22.03 | orsonj | logs+grep++ |
| 22:22.27 | orsonj | someoneelsetodotheworkforyou++++ |
| 22:23.07 | SunSparc | wps: Yep, orsonj's was the one I used also. |
| 22:25.07 | SunSparc | fungus: That was the first Evanescence song I heard. My wife heard it on the radio and told me about it. I heard it and was hooked. |
| 22:27.34 | fungus | I first heard Evanescence live at the Zephyr a long time ago. I didn't really like them all that much. |
| 22:27.46 | fungus | Then I heard the recorded versions, and really liked them. |
| 22:30.33 | SunSparc | Better recorded than live eh? Many bands are like that. |
| 22:31.27 | fungus | Yeah, they kinda sucked live, but, IIRC, they were still pretty green back then. |
| 22:31.51 | SunSparc | Amy's voice is amazing. |
| 22:32.27 | fungus | yup |
| 22:32.53 | fungus | lol, shuffle is sometimes really interesting. |
| 22:33.21 | SunSparc | I am really enjoying Genius. |
| 22:34.51 | fungus | It's pretty cool, but it removes some of the serendipity of shuffle. Depends on your mood i guess. |
| 22:35.33 | SunSparc | Yeah, I think Genius keeps the mood, whereas shuffle keeps it fresh. |
| 22:46.19 | mgeary | jeeze. Dow down another ~700 today |
| 22:46.27 | mgeary | insane |
| 22:46.47 | SunSparc | 700 is full access for the user, no access for group and world |
| 22:47.20 | mgeary | in one week we've gone from 10.7 to 8.5 |
| 22:47.28 | mgeary | everything's on sale! |
| 22:47.46 | SunSparc | Best time to buy. |
| 22:47.49 | mgeary | yep |
| 22:48.03 | mgeary | well, the BEST time is when it bottoms out |
| 22:48.10 | mgeary | "catch a falling knife", they say |
| 22:51.32 | thebigdog | i am so buying iceland |
| 22:51.49 | mgeary | i'll take a piece of that |
| 22:52.23 | thebigdog | man if i was jimmy b i would have gotten iceland for 1b then spend 5b for a crappy company |
| 22:54.28 | mgeary | you mean warren b? |
| 22:56.13 | thebigdog | yeah hehe |
| 22:58.04 | itimber | I'm out.... later guys |
| 22:59.27 | thebigdog | that itimber is a slacker |
| 22:59.37 | SunSparc | Whoa yeah! CoD4 time.... |
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| 23:40.43 | mgeary | anyone around that can help me with some proftpd issues? |
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| 23:51.35 | tierra | yeah, just run 'apt-get remove proftpd' :) |
| 23:58.52 | thebigdog | hehe |
| 23:59.28 | mgeary | okay smarty pants, what do YOU use for virtual-user ftp? |
