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| 04:12.36 | carmony_ | What's a good mac irc client? |
| 04:17.06 | thebigdog | colloquy |
| 04:17.14 | thebigdog | that is what i have used in the past |
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| 15:02.17 | macnewbold | ~poke mindjuju in his good eye |
| 15:02.17 | jbot | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind mindjuju in his good eye, pokes mindjuju in his good eye repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 15:04.30 | mindjuju | psh! |
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| 15:06.04 | mindjuju | with a couple of cans of paint |
| 15:06.16 | macnewbold | ~repaint mindjuju |
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| 15:07.26 | macnewbold | darn bot |
| 15:08.12 | mindjuju | methinks the problem is not jbot, but pebkac |
| 15:08.14 | macnewbold | how about some classic shakespeare |
| 15:08.24 | macnewbold | "More of your conversation would infect my brain" -- coriolanus |
| 15:08.34 | macnewbold | now, begone |
| 15:08.54 | mindjuju | ha! |
| 15:09.24 | mindjuju | ...uh... |
| 15:09.29 | mindjuju | ...hmmm.... |
| 15:09.34 | mindjuju | ...uh.... |
| 15:09.48 | mindjuju | hey macnewbold, knock knock |
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| 15:13.03 | macnewbold | ding dong |
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| 15:16.03 | synic | mindjuju: you ravetraxin this morning? |
| 15:16.40 | mindjuju | yup |
| 15:16.43 | mindjuju | u? |
| 15:16.51 | synic | yeah, this track is pretty awesome |
| 15:17.11 | mindjuju | true that |
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| 15:42.48 | mindjuju | wow, that's funny |
| 15:43.18 | mindjuju | macnewbold, i thought you said freebsd was secure! |
| 15:43.30 | synic | url 2 vid plz |
| 15:44.20 | mindjuju | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0 |
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| 15:45.06 | mindjuju | rofl |
| 15:45.10 | wps | ~wedgie mindjuju |
| 15:45.11 | jbot | ACTION hangs mindjuju from the flag pole by his underwear |
| 15:45.14 | wps | ~melvin mindjuju |
| 15:45.15 | jbot | ACTION pulls mindjuju underwear up to the ceiling...and smiles |
| 15:47.08 | mgeary | ahh, the 80s |
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| 15:49.07 | mgeary | hrm... fungus |
| 15:49.19 | mgeary | "When you create an object, it is immediately inserted into the database. SQLObject uses the database as immediate storage, unlike some other systems where you explicitly save objects into a database." <-- don't really agree with that approach |
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| 15:49.53 | mgeary | primary key inflation is a pet peeve of mine |
| 15:50.11 | PoeticIntensity | Hello, everyone... |
| 15:50.18 | thebigdog | morning |
| 15:50.28 | fungus | Yeah, I can see how that could be a problem. |
| 15:50.31 | PoeticIntensity | Just thought I'd announce the arrival of our 3rd child... |
| 15:50.39 | PoeticIntensity | (that's why I haven't been around much lately) |
| 15:50.41 | mindjuju | awesome! |
| 15:50.41 | fungus | Congrats! |
| 15:50.44 | mindjuju | congrats! |
| 15:50.44 | PoeticIntensity | thanks! |
| 15:50.53 | mgeary | PoeticIntensity: woot! |
| 15:50.59 | thebigdog | gratz |
| 15:51.01 | PoeticIntensity | www.ilovemyjournal.com has more info... |
| 15:51.13 | PoeticIntensity | zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz |
| 15:51.32 | PoeticIntensity | anyway, I didn't mean to disrupt the discussion... |
| 15:52.23 | mindjuju | @PoeticIntensity, we were just talking about this vid where you see freebsd getting hacked in under 10 minutes |
| 15:52.25 | mindjuju | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0 |
| 15:52.27 | mindjuju | scary! |
| 15:52.34 | PoeticIntensity | wow. |
| 15:52.42 | wps | there is no way I am clicking that link |
| 15:52.51 | PoeticIntensity | clicky clicky... |
| 15:53.11 | PoeticIntensity | LOL |
| 15:53.14 | mindjuju | :) |
| 15:53.15 | PoeticIntensity | oh gosh... |
| 15:53.18 | fungus | I should have seen that one coming. |
| 15:53.23 | PoeticIntensity | get back to work from a long weekend of birthing..... |
| 15:53.28 | PoeticIntensity | and you give me WHAT!?!? |
| 15:53.31 | wps | HUH? |
| 15:53.32 | fungus | FreeBSD getting hacked? yeah right. |
| 15:55.06 | mindjuju | poeticintensity, the vid on your site is awesome! |
| 15:55.15 | PoeticIntensity | thanks, mindjuju |
| 15:55.22 | wps | wow |
| 15:55.28 | wps | omniture's stock is at 13.23 |
| 15:55.38 | wps | crazy low |
| 15:55.40 | PoeticIntensity | what was it last week? |
| 15:55.40 | mindjuju | here is the HONEST link for poeticintensity vid - http://www.ilovemyjournal.com/?action=view_entry&eid=4159 |
| 15:55.49 | wps | what a crappy time for the stock market to tang |
| 15:55.54 | wps | s/tang/tank/ |
| 15:56.07 | wps | I need it back up within the next three weeks or I loose it all :( |
| 15:56.28 | PoeticIntensity | oh, MAN! |
| 15:56.33 | PoeticIntensity | That blows, man... |
| 15:56.39 | PoeticIntensity | ugh... |
| 15:57.22 | mgeary | wps: ?? |
| 15:57.30 | PoeticIntensity | you quitting, wps? |
| 15:57.42 | wps | yes |
| 15:57.44 | mgeary | weren't you the one saying "burn, baby burn. Serves 'em right", wps? |
| 15:58.01 | mgeary | why you leaving? |
| 15:58.02 | wps | yes, mgeary |
| 15:58.04 | wps | I didn't invest |
| 15:58.12 | wps | it's free stock options from Omniture |
| 15:58.21 | wps | if it goes back up and I get them, it's a happy bonus |
| 15:58.23 | mgeary | ah, and yours are now underwater |
| 15:58.30 | wps | but I'm not out anything if it doesn't |
| 15:58.42 | mgeary | how's come you're leaving? Got something else lined up? |
| 15:58.43 | wps | yes, the current value is significantly below my strike price |
| 15:58.53 | wps | was courted by a better offer |
| 15:58.58 | mgeary | congrats |
| 15:59.00 | wps | thanks |
| 15:59.06 | wps | friday's my last day |
| 15:59.15 | mgeary | gonna give us any more details? |
| 15:59.24 | wps | sure |
| 15:59.33 | wps | I'm joining the User Experience Group at the LDS Church |
| 15:59.42 | wps | this is the team: http://northtemple.com |
| 15:59.46 | mindjuju | if i'm not mistaken, you get 6 months to exercise your options |
| 15:59.56 | mindjuju | that's awesome wps! |
| 15:59.56 | mgeary | so that's not the team in Provo, is it, wps? |
| 16:00.03 | wps | I only get three, unfortunately, mindjuju |
| 16:00.10 | wps | no, they are down-town |
| 16:00.22 | wps | although they are moving to a new building in Riverton shortly |
| 16:00.24 | mgeary | so it's contractors for the church, not actual church employees? |
| 16:00.37 | carmony | I have a friend who works for them |
| 16:00.47 | wps | not contractorâ¦Â actual Church employee |
| 16:00.50 | carmony | int that same group |
| 16:00.59 | wps | what's his name, carmony? |
| 16:01.00 | mgeary | wps: that's rare. cool. |
| 16:01.07 | wps | thanksâ¦Â I am really excited |
| 16:01.11 | carmony | Paul Whilhelm(sp?) |
| 16:01.17 | mgeary | ~buy wps a dozen white shirts |
| 16:01.18 | jbot | ACTION goes to S-Mart and gets a dozen a dozen white shirtss for wps |
| 16:01.23 | mgeary | heh |
| 16:01.25 | wps | :) |
| 16:01.28 | mgeary | there's 144 shirts for ya |
| 16:01.36 | wps | I am actually buying a new pair of dress shoes today |
| 16:01.37 | carmony | I was thinking about going to work for the church |
| 16:01.42 | wps | but I wont' have to wear a suit ever day |
| 16:02.34 | PoeticIntensity | congrats, wps... |
| 16:02.35 | wps | You sure your friend is part of the North Temple group, carmony? |
| 16:02.43 | wps | the only Paul I know in that group is Paul Vaughn |
| 16:02.51 | carmony | He might be, he has changed positions around |
| 16:02.59 | wps | cool |
| 16:03.08 | carmony | Do you know Tom Welch? |
| 16:03.21 | wps | no |
| 16:03.59 | carmony | he used to work full time for the church, he was incharge of a lot of open source stuff I Think |
| 16:04.31 | mgeary | wps: so you gonna still be doing PHP stuff? The church is a pretty heavy Java + Microsoft shop from what i hear |
| 16:04.36 | wps | I am really looking forward to working for a place where the projects are influenced solely by the priority of making them useful and not by stock price, the market, competition, executive agendas, etc |
| 16:04.49 | wps | no, no PHP |
| 16:05.06 | wps | I will be an Senior Interface Designer |
| 16:05.19 | wps | which is an architect, designer, and front-end developer |
| 16:05.45 | wps | we scope, plan, architect, design, and prototype the interface for all web applications |
| 16:06.11 | wps | so I will be designing and doing front-end (html, javascript, etc) |
| 16:06.25 | wps | we prototype the app and then hand it off to engineering to finish |
| 16:06.30 | mgeary | cool |
| 16:06.51 | PoeticIntensity | sounds like that's just up your alley, wps... |
| 16:06.53 | PoeticIntensity | congrats! |
| 16:06.57 | carmony | That'd be fun :) |
| 16:08.18 | macnewbold | congrats on the new job, wps! |
| 16:08.32 | macnewbold | that's only 3-4 blocks away from where I work |
| 16:08.44 | wps | yes, after several jobs over the years, doing both just design or just development, or a combination of the two, I think I have finally found my calling |
| 16:08.50 | wps | thanks, macnewbold |
| 16:08.56 | thebigdog | wps, say hi to my buddy gilbert |
| 16:09.02 | wps | you know gilbert??? |
| 16:09.08 | thebigdog | yep |
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| 16:09.21 | wps | gilbert's the top-dog on the team |
| 16:09.27 | wps | he was the original IxD there |
| 16:10.00 | thebigdog | yeah...i worked with him at ngc |
| 16:10.07 | wps | cool |
| 16:10.08 | tierra | nice, wps now does what I do, except I work on desktop environments and wps does web environments :) |
| 16:10.10 | carmony | I dunno if I could bring myself to get a job where I don't work from home. |
| 16:10.11 | wps | I will definitely say hi |
| 16:10.17 | tierra | hehe |
| 16:10.27 | wps | I will actually work from home several days a week |
| 16:10.33 | carmony | really?? |
| 16:10.42 | carmony | I love working in my underwear.... er.... ;) |
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| 16:35.43 | josephscott | ping macnewbold |
| 16:36.22 | herlo | anyone up for some css questions? |
| 16:36.47 | mindjuju | sure, what you got |
| 16:36.48 | SunSparc | jbot knows css |
| 16:39.25 | herlo | he does? |
| 16:39.31 | wps | ask away |
| 16:39.34 | synic | jbot: do you know css? |
| 16:39.35 | jbot | yes, I know css. |
| 16:39.38 | herlo | w00t! |
| 16:39.54 | synic | jbot: do you know you're stupid? |
| 16:39.54 | jbot | yes, I know you're stupid. |
| 16:40.04 | synic | hrmm, that didn't work out like I had hoped. |
| 16:40.12 | mindjuju | rofl |
| 16:40.24 | SunSparc | lol |
| 16:40.25 | herlo | I am not sure how to ask it, hang on |
| 16:40.29 | SunSparc | jbot ain't no dummy |
| 16:41.52 | mindjuju | well, while we're waiting for herlo's question, here's my advice |
| 16:42.08 | mindjuju | all websites could be made WAY better by liberal use of the <marquee> tag |
| 16:42.42 | DexterTheDragon | with a <blink> tag inside |
| 16:43.01 | carmony | ....... |
| 16:43.47 | mgeary | ~fernpee |
| 16:43.48 | jbot | ACTION whistles for BigDrink, the 180-lb Labrador Retriever with the 40-gallon bladder, to relieve himself on that fern over there in the corner... |
| 16:44.40 | carmony | so, just out of curiousity, what does it take to get a +v here in uphpu? |
| 16:44.48 | herlo | okay |
| 16:44.51 | herlo | so here's my crappy css |
| 16:44.53 | wps | a what? |
| 16:44.53 | herlo | http://herlo.org/misc/crappy-css.png |
| 16:45.10 | herlo | carmony: time and patience |
| 16:45.17 | SunSparc | carmony: Hang out here for a while and be helpful |
| 16:45.20 | wps | who's the green chick? |
| 16:45.21 | SunSparc | :) |
| 16:45.21 | carmony | lol, sound good to me :) |
| 16:45.37 | carmony | herlo, all of your main "contnet is floated left or right |
| 16:45.43 | herlo | carmony: yep |
| 16:45.54 | wps | looks like you need to clear: both your footer |
| 16:46.02 | herlo | okay |
| 16:46.03 | SunSparc | wps: She is a borg drone |
| 16:46.04 | herlo | so here's the problem |
| 16:46.06 | mindjuju | that's Miss Sakamoto from She's Blinded Me with Science |
| 16:46.21 | herlo | I don't have to worry about the footer nor do I have to worry about the gray section on the left |
| 16:46.54 | wps | ;) |
| 16:46.56 | DexterTheDragon | wearing it |
| 16:47.02 | herlo | what I want is the white section below 'GL550: Enterprise Linux Security Administration' to expand down to the bottom of the text |
| 16:47.05 | SunSparc | Oh, right, doh! |
| 16:47.05 | herlo | and |
| 16:47.26 | herlo | to be able to layout the 'upcoming classes' section similar to where it is... |
| 16:47.34 | herlo | I have no control over the footer |
| 16:47.42 | wps | http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d84/missmeganp/WeirdScience28.jpg |
| 16:47.53 | wps | put this below what you do have control over then: |
| 16:48.00 | wps | <div style="clear: both"></div> |
| 16:48.05 | carmony | try putting something at the end of the content that isn't floated |
| 16:48.11 | carmony | what wps said :p |
| 16:49.03 | herlo | wps: k |
| 16:51.01 | herlo | wps: that didn't seem to do anything |
| 16:51.13 | wps | I'll need to see code then to hel |
| 16:51.19 | wps | p |
| 16:51.43 | herlo | http://paste2.org/p/83911 |
| 16:51.47 | herlo | yep, figured |
| 16:52.02 | herlo | the div at the top is the div I don't have control off |
| 16:52.07 | herlo | s/off/of/ |
| 16:52.17 | herlo | I'm going to paste the css if you want |
| 16:52.40 | herlo | http://paste2.org/p/83912 <-- css |
| 16:53.20 | wps | for starters, don't use line breaks for faux paragraphs |
| 16:53.23 | wps | use paragraphs for paragraphs |
| 16:53.39 | wps | I do compliment you on using a pretty pastebin though |
| 16:53.41 | wps | thanks :) |
| 16:54.30 | herlo | oh, I know |
| 16:54.37 | wps | can you send me a page everything together? |
| 16:54.38 | herlo | I haven't removed them yet |
| 16:54.40 | wps | an HTML version of the PNG? |
| 16:54.41 | herlo | sure |
| 16:54.48 | herlo | hang on... |
| 16:56.01 | herlo | oh, so the png has a header at the top too |
| 16:57.02 | herlo | wps: have you heard of gnome-do? It's kind of like quicksilver for the mac, very nice. It's what makes the copy and paste so nice |
| 16:57.10 | wps | I haven't |
| 16:57.38 | herlo | I have another question for you before I paste everything in here |
| 16:57.52 | wps | don't paste in here |
| 16:57.54 | wps | :) |
| 16:57.57 | herlo | duh |
| 16:58.25 | herlo | no, my question is 'how much' you actually need. I can give you all the source, I suppose, but I don't want to send too much |
| 16:58.47 | herlo | http://paste2.org/p/83915 |
| 16:58.48 | wps | load the page in a browser, view source, and copy-n-paste everything |
| 16:58.57 | wps | perfecto |
| 16:59.01 | herlo | yes, that's what that is, just wanted to know how much css you wanted |
| 16:59.05 | wps | ahâ¦Â crap |
| 16:59.13 | wps | except with that pastebin, it has all of the line numbers |
| 16:59.58 | herlo | you can remove them |
| 17:00.13 | herlo | top right, click no format |
| 17:00.14 | wps | got it |
| 17:00.57 | herlo | btw, I removed all the <br />'s as well already |
| 17:01.22 | herlo | brb |
| 17:02.09 | wps | Is there a site that has the images and css already hosted on that I can pull them from? |
| 17:13.46 | herlo | uh, not really |
| 17:14.05 | herlo | let me see what I can do... |
| 17:14.31 | wps | sorryâ¦Â it's just way easier to debug if I can host it myself and hack on it |
| 17:15.23 | herlo | oh, no worries, we just don't have a public site for it yet... |
| 17:15.33 | herlo | I appreciate the help |
| 17:15.50 | herlo | do you need the css files too? |
| 17:15.59 | wps | yes |
| 17:16.32 | herlo | k, hold pls |
| 17:17.28 | herlo | wps: look here http://herlo.org/misc/ |
| 17:19.12 | herlo | actually, try http://herlo.org/guru/ |
| 17:19.30 | wps | missing one: http://herlo.org/misc/screen.css |
| 17:19.40 | herlo | wps: yeah, try guru |
| 17:19.47 | wps | try what? |
| 17:19.51 | herlo | I just moved them |
| 17:19.55 | herlo | look up a couple lines |
| 17:20.28 | herlo | wps: http://herlo.org/guru/ |
| 17:20.54 | herlo | sorry, was moving them to make it easier to work with. I'm going to put the images in there too |
| 17:21.37 | herlo | wps: should be lots of png files now too |
| 17:26.56 | wps | herlo: course_info is absolutely positioned |
| 17:26.59 | wps | that is the problem |
| 17:26.59 | mindjuju | did ya'll see that Linus Torvalds digs on Fedora 9? http://news.oreilly.com/2008/07/linux-torvalds-on-linux-distri.html |
| 17:27.10 | mindjuju | no RickRoll guarantee |
| 17:27.13 | wps | remove that |
| 17:27.29 | wps | no way I'm clicking that link |
| 17:27.37 | herlo | mindjuju: yep |
| 17:27.45 | herlo | wps: how would I change that? |
| 17:27.58 | wps | change |
| 17:27.59 | wps | div#course_info { |
| 17:27.59 | wps | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:27.59 | wps | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:27.59 | wps | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:28.00 | wps | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:28.01 | wps | } |
| 17:28.03 | wps | to |
| 17:28.09 | DexterTheDragon | ah |
| 17:28.36 | wps | div#course_info { |
| 17:28.36 | wps | } |
| 17:28.42 | wps | gives you this: http://herlo.dev.anavidesign.com/ |
| 17:29.24 | herlo | position: relative; seems to work a bit better |
| 17:29.39 | wps | you might tell your graphic artist also that the shadows are completely impossible :) |
| 17:29.48 | wps | (on that site) |
| 17:29.49 | herlo | what shadows? |
| 17:29.58 | herlo | on the bottom? |
| 17:30.23 | wps | http://screencast.com/t/mIkG15DyqVG |
| 17:31.27 | herlo | hmm |
| 17:32.19 | wps | not the end of the world obviously, but a small think that makes the site feel awkward |
| 17:32.24 | wps | s/think/thing/ |
| 17:33.03 | herlo | wps: you are just talking about perspective view right? |
| 17:33.11 | wps | light source |
| 17:34.00 | herlo | so what if there were multiple light sources |
| 17:36.56 | herlo | wps: so I'm stuck now just a little...but it's much less than the previous issue |
| 17:37.18 | herlo | I've set values like so: |
| 17:37.20 | herlo | div#course_info { position: relative; left: 20px; top: 5px; width: 600px; |
| 17:37.20 | herlo | } |
| 17:37.29 | wps | then you would get multiple shadows |
| 17:37.34 | wps | you can't use top/left with relative |
| 17:37.43 | herlo | but it works |
| 17:37.54 | herlo | that's not the problem |
| 17:37.55 | wps | err, you might be able to, but I wouldn't |
| 17:38.04 | wps | that's what padding/margins are for |
| 17:38.18 | herlo | and taking them out is fine too, actually |
| 17:38.39 | herlo | so I am working on the other element of css I'm trying to apply |
| 17:38.48 | herlo | currently I have: |
| 17:38.50 | herlo | div#class_list { position: absolute; right: 50px; top: 175px; |
| 17:38.51 | herlo | } |
| 17:39.20 | herlo | but I want it to be next to the course_info div |
| 17:39.26 | herlo | with a small bit of spacing between |
| 17:39.59 | herlo | if I use relative, its put at the bottom |
| 17:40.30 | wps | like this? |
| 17:40.30 | wps | http://herlo.dev.anavidesign.com/ |
| 17:40.42 | herlo | yup |
| 17:41.00 | wps | move that div to be before the other in the markup and then use this: div#class_list { |
| 17:41.00 | wps | float: right; |
| 17:41.00 | wps | width: 200px; |
| 17:41.01 | wps | margin: 0 0 20px 20px; |
| 17:41.01 | wps | border: 1px solid black; |
| 17:41.01 | wps | padding: 20px; |
| 17:41.03 | wps | } |
| 17:41.32 | herlo | k |
| 17:41.33 | herlo | tx |
| 17:41.44 | wps | you're welcome |
| 17:41.46 | wps | glad I could help |
| 17:42.01 | wps | I'll call you when I'm ready to upgrade my FC3 to CentOS 5 :) |
| 17:43.22 | herlo | okay |
| 17:43.26 | mgeary | so, i've got a mysql DB that i need to make a backup of... |
| 17:43.26 | herlo | sounds like a deal |
| 17:43.35 | herlo | mysqldump :) |
| 17:43.37 | mgeary | but there's one table that's 9.9 gigs. I don't want that in the backup |
| 17:43.40 | mgeary | doh |
| 17:43.43 | SunSparc | mysqldump++ |
| 17:43.44 | herlo | oh, man |
| 17:43.45 | mgeary | but there's one table that's 9 . 9 gigs. I don't want that in the backup |
| 17:43.54 | herlo | mgeary: table by table |
| 17:43.55 | wps | 9.9 |
| 17:43.57 | wps | funny |
| 17:44.00 | mgeary | i can do this: |
| 17:44.01 | herlo | that sux... |
| 17:44.01 | SunSparc | hmm |
| 17:44.04 | mgeary | mysqldump [OPTIONS] database [tables] |
| 17:44.10 | mgeary | i just wish i could do: |
| 17:44.21 | mgeary | mysqldump --exclude='tablename' database |
| 17:44.22 | wps | you can dump just the tables you want |
| 17:44.25 | SunSparc | delete the table |
| 17:44.33 | mgeary | there are 47 other tables, wps |
| 17:44.37 | wps | eeeeeek |
| 17:44.45 | mgeary | meh |
| 17:45.13 | SunSparc | mgeary: turn mysql off and then rsync the /var/db/mysql/databasename directory |
| 17:45.28 | herlo | mgeary: automate the listing of tables with bash or something |
| 17:45.31 | SunSparc | Minus that table |
| 17:45.35 | mgeary | yeah |
| 17:45.52 | herlo | or do what SunSparc suggests |
| 17:46.04 | mgeary | can't have the DB down. this is a production DB |
| 17:46.11 | mgeary | need to get a slave set up |
| 17:46.17 | SunSparc | mgeary: work with us here |
| 17:46.19 | SunSparc | ;) |
| 17:46.20 | mgeary | psh |
| 17:50.14 | thebigdog | oh i need some lunch |
| 17:50.20 | wps | same |
| 17:50.26 | wps | and a rootbeer float |
| 17:51.31 | SunSparc | wps: you ALWAYS need a rootbeer float |
| 17:52.24 | wps | manna |
| 17:52.43 | wps | :) |
| 17:53.42 | mgeary | ummm. into the jugular? |
| 17:54.38 | mgeary | jugular veins are veins that bring deoxygenated blood from the head back to the heart |
| 17:54.58 | mgeary | *wikipedia |
| 17:55.26 | _psychic_ | carbonated water is deoxygenated. |
| 17:55.33 | SunSparc | lol |
| 17:55.36 | SunSparc | So true |
| 17:59.56 | carmony | Uggg... sometimes working with previous developers code sucks... this guy wouldn't know what OOP and Comments were if it hit him in the face. |
| 18:00.22 | DexterTheDragon | I hate getting hit in the face by OOP |
| 18:00.47 | wps | OOP belongs in a pastebin |
| 18:00.58 | thebigdog | haha DexterTheDragon i thought you said OPP |
| 18:01.28 | mindjuju | nice |
| 18:02.03 | DexterTheDragon | heh |
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| 18:06.28 | carmony | lol |
| 18:12.15 | mgeary | hey, fungus |
| 18:12.39 | fungus | yeah? |
| 18:12.49 | mgeary | do you know if/how in sqlObject you can override the database table name of a class? |
| 18:12.58 | mgeary | i don't completely adhere to their convention |
| 18:13.27 | fungus | use the sqlmeta class |
| 18:13.38 | fungus | http://www.sqlobject.org/SQLObject.html#class-sqlmeta |
| 18:15.46 | jsmith | unum: C'mon... it's all fairly closely related... and he's more likely to get the right answer from someone who knows here |
| 18:16.05 | jsmith | unum: Besides... this channel has always been fairly liberal about staying on topic |
| 18:17.25 | herlo | wps: another question for you |
| 18:17.57 | unum | I wasn't complaining just making sure I was in the right channel :) |
| 18:18.26 | herlo | wps: I don't know what I did, but the links inside the class_list div are not accessible. Seems odd |
| 18:20.42 | herlo | and yet, the one on your site is clickable. The code looks the same from what I can tell |
| 18:21.16 | mindjuju | jsmith, just cause i bring up Tasers and rickroll the channel every now and thendoesn't mean we should be lax and allow totally OFF topics like SQL! |
| 18:24.56 | unum | mindjuju: but this python SQL! |
| 18:25.33 | herlo | wps: found it... |
| 18:27.34 | carmony | Anyone have any good validation PHP code for accepting video embed code? So they can put embed html, but no javascript, etc? |
| 18:30.07 | mgeary | fungus: perfect. thanks |
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| 18:34.19 | dataw0lf | http://www.jingproject.com/ |
| 18:34.51 | wps | jing rocks |
| 18:35.16 | dataw0lf | yea it does. |
| 18:48.48 | carmony | http://screencast.com/t/62WV2l2B |
| 18:48.52 | carmony | sweet! |
| 18:51.02 | dataw0lf | yea. |
| 19:10.21 | carmony | dataw0lf, thanks for introducing this to me :) |
| 19:12.59 | mgeary | hey, fungus, with sqlObject, isn't there a way to do someClass(primary_key) to get a single instance? Do you have do do: someClass.select(someClass.q.id=primary_key)[0] ? |
| 19:14.18 | fungus | someClass.get(primary_key) |
| 19:14.42 | mgeary | ah, thanks |
| 19:15.14 | mgeary | perfect |
| 19:24.19 | thebigdog | i dont have mac or windows...now jing here |
| 19:58.52 | herlo | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCbuRA_D3KU <-- for your entertainment |
| 20:02.07 | _psychic_ | oh boy |
| 20:06.36 | herlo | thought you might like that |
| 20:07.30 | mgeary | herlo: that is the best thing i've seen in a long time |
| 20:07.36 | synic | man I love Shiloh's mixes |
| 20:07.47 | dataw0lf | carmony: np. |
| 20:09.23 | herlo | mgeary: I was dying when I found it today |
| 20:09.51 | herlo | Animal is the best muppet by far |
| 20:10.03 | mgeary | i'd take the muppets over every single damn one of those idiotic reality shows combined |
| 20:11.31 | wps | amen |
| 20:11.40 | herlo | Jim Henson was a genius |
| 20:12.07 | mgeary | yeah |
| 20:12.15 | mgeary | you know he died of Pneumonia? what a waste |
| 20:12.47 | herlo | yeah, a shame |
| 20:14.23 | SunSparc | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kct523XltUM&NR=1 |
| 20:20.29 | herlo | SunSparc: I have to wait for a bit to watch that one, but it looks interesting |
| 20:20.37 | wps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqYgdzXTszA&NR=1 |
| 20:20.50 | SunSparc | Yeah it is way cool. The full episode is even better |
| 20:22.06 | SunSparc | wps: Ouchie hehe |
| 20:22.28 | wps | that came up in the "may we also suggest watching" after your video |
| 20:23.11 | carmony | damn you typos!!!!! |
| 20:23.15 | carmony | grrr... sorry ;) |
| 20:24.57 | SunSparc | carmony: Try this... |
| 20:25.00 | SunSparc | ~lart typos |
| 20:25.00 | jbot | declares typos a moron |
| 20:26.02 | carmony | ~lart typos |
| 20:26.02 | jbot | takes a big bite out of typos's jugular vein |
| 20:26.14 | carmony | ahh, that feels better ;) |
| 20:26.29 | dataw0lf | http://decafbad.com/blog/2008/07/04/queue-everything-and-delight-everyone |
| 20:29.05 | wps | great post |
| 20:29.07 | wps | thanks, dataw0lf |
| 20:40.25 | mindjuju | i've got a small weird prob, want some suggestions on |
| 20:41.05 | mindjuju | i've got a mailbox with 30k+ messages in it. Since it is my lucky day, I need to get those messages and parse out the email addys in them |
| 20:41.38 | mgeary | easy enough |
| 20:41.49 | mindjuju | yeah? |
| 20:41.58 | mgeary | how are the messages stored? |
| 20:42.05 | mgeary | single file? multiple files? |
| 20:42.25 | mindjuju | uh, i don't know the answer to that, but it is accessible through dovecot, which i control |
| 20:42.25 | mgeary | you could just do a "cat" on them and grep the output through an email regex |
| 20:43.36 | mgeary | cat just dumps the contents |
| 20:43.45 | mgeary | probably want to use "find" |
| 20:43.46 | mgeary | something like: |
| 20:43.53 | mgeary | cd /path/to/mbox |
| 20:44.20 | mindjuju | you know, something funny about man, i always get stuck in it |
| 20:44.25 | mindjuju | how do i exit man to get to bash? |
| 20:44.26 | mgeary | hit q |
| 20:44.35 | mindjuju | :) |
| 20:44.46 | mindjuju | i trtied :q and that no workie |
| 20:44.49 | mindjuju | thx for that |
| 20:45.05 | mindjuju | k, so now i need to find where the fiels are stored and cat on them with a little grep |
| 20:45.12 | mgeary | that's what i'd do |
| 20:45.56 | mindjuju | ~mgeary++ |
| 20:54.14 | dataw0lf | http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/10/8/1550/41356/348/615972 |
| 20:54.33 | thebigdog | mindjuju, if you wanted to be cool you could write a php script to do it |
| 20:54.41 | wps | wow |
| 20:55.34 | thebigdog | mindjuju, i you want to be cool |
| 20:55.35 | _psychic_ | freudian slip or senior moment or 'nam flashback? |
| 20:55.56 | wps | I sure hope it wasn't freudianâ¦Â 'cause that means he really meant it |
| 20:56.44 | dataw0lf | he's just tired and old. |
| 20:56.53 | wps | indeed |
| 20:56.59 | dataw0lf | I don't really consider McCain to be, y'know, PURE evil. Just shallow and greedy. |
| 20:57.25 | dataw0lf | he really is digging himself a hole at this point though. |
| 20:57.59 | dataw0lf | no doubt Romney'll be the republicans primary pick in 2012. |
| 20:59.27 | unum | dataw0lf: you really think so |
| 20:59.49 | carmony | I think so |
| 20:59.57 | carmony | what other republican will step up to it? |
| 21:00.03 | carmony | he was the only other one that was close to mccain |
| 21:00.09 | unum | carmony: uuhhhh |
| 21:00.21 | unum | did you pay attention to the primary at all? |
| 21:00.33 | carmony | yeah, why? |
| 21:00.58 | mgeary | dataw0lf: no way. Palin 2012!! |
| 21:01.04 | _psychic_ | dataw0lf: you're assuming that there'll be a GOP in 4-8 years. |
| 21:01.12 | unum | huckabee got more delegates than romney |
| 21:01.18 | carmony | Romney was ahead until Super Tuesday |
| 21:01.19 | unum | admittedly he stayed in longer |
| 21:01.31 | carmony | Romney had way more than huckabee when he dropped |
| 21:02.06 | unum | but most of the states that would suppornt romney over huckabee had voted |
| 21:02.15 | unum | romney had very little strength in the south |
| 21:02.22 | unum | and most of the west had already voted |
| 21:02.30 | dataw0lf | Romney will be the pick because this economic problem isn't going anywhere soon. |
| 21:02.37 | dataw0lf | it's going to snowball for a while. |
| 21:03.00 | dataw0lf | republicans are slapping themselves at this point for allowing McCain to get the primary. |
| 21:03.03 | carmony | Romney lost a handful of "winner takes all" states to McCain, which is what caused Romney to lose. |
| 21:03.10 | carmony | McCain was banking on Hillary to win |
| 21:03.18 | thebigdog | i figure by the time my 7yr old is an adult we might be getting out of this mess |
| 21:03.20 | carmony | cause lots of people don't like Hillary |
| 21:03.36 | dataw0lf | McCain wasn't counting on anything, his campaign team is garbage. |
| 21:03.47 | unum | I still don't see rommney as a possible pick in 2012 |
| 21:03.58 | dataw0lf | Their ground game is ridiculous, and they've stepped up these negative attacks hoping to bring Obama down, instead of working on getting McCain up. |
| 21:04.00 | _psychic_ | I hate how american politics are so tied to specific *people* rather than ideas |
| 21:04.09 | _psychic_ | who cares if McCain is in - why should that make a difference? |
| 21:04.36 | dataw0lf | well *people* matter as much as *ideas* |
| 21:04.50 | dataw0lf | I like Obama because I think he's smart enough and savvy enough to pick the right people for the job. |
| 21:04.55 | _psychic_ | not in this sense |
| 21:04.57 | dataw0lf | which is a primary responsibility of the president. |
| 21:05.00 | unum | can you actually trust the person to carry out the ideas, is a valid question |
| 21:05.14 | carmony | I think Obama is going to bankrupt the country... but that is just me :p |
| 21:05.26 | _psychic_ | Yeah but we get stuck in red vs. blue or obama vs. mccain more than we do right vs. wrong |
| 21:05.29 | _psychic_ | listen to the debates |
| 21:05.30 | dataw0lf | the country is already bankrupt. |
| 21:05.33 | _psychic_ | it's like some contest |
| 21:05.38 | carmony | _psychic_: you're right on that |
| 21:05.42 | _psychic_ | that's the part I hate. |
| 21:05.54 | _psychic_ | we need political "strategists" |
| 21:06.21 | unum | _psychic_: I'm not sure what you mean by saying the debates should be about right versuses wrong |
| 21:06.23 | carmony | oh, don't get me started on Bush and a balanced budget.... I'm def. mad about that |
| 21:06.27 | dataw0lf | yea, and Clinton wasn't particularly economically savvy. Witness: the concessions in NAFTA, Fannie & Freddy. |
| 21:06.51 | dataw0lf | it wasn't just Bush who bankrupt the country. |
| 21:06.57 | dataw0lf | Everybody played a part |
| 21:07.04 | _psychic_ | unum: which got more news coverage: who "won", or who had the best ideas/was right |
| 21:07.08 | dataw0lf | Including, to a huge extent, the Republican congress that resided under most of his term. |
| 21:07.12 | dataw0lf | terms* |
| 21:07.14 | wps | that's what I think is funnyâ¦Â everyone talks about the president and forges congress |
| 21:07.19 | wps | the president only has so much power |
| 21:07.24 | _psychic_ | economies don't immediately respond to presidents either |
| 21:07.25 | carmony | in 2003 bush tried to reform Fannie and Freddy and the Dems shot it down |
| 21:07.29 | unum | _psychic_: do you want the media to tell you who was right? |
| 21:07.47 | _psychic_ | unum: yeah. reporters are supposed to check into fact, right? |
| 21:07.54 | unum | oh you mean that way |
| 21:08.00 | _psychic_ | there's no question we shouldn't rely on our own |
| 21:08.02 | unum | most of the stuff was subjective |
| 21:08.13 | _psychic_ | well there's another problem them |
| 21:08.15 | _psychic_ | *then |
| 21:08.27 | unum | what I mean by that is there's no way to validate who is right |
| 21:08.30 | _psychic_ | I just feel like it's some high school debate where Jimmy says this and everyone is like "ooooooooh" |
| 21:08.35 | unum | they talked about who they would ask to be treasurer |
| 21:08.39 | dataw0lf | carmony: the Dems were unable to shoot pretty anything down in 2003, so give me a break. |
| 21:08.41 | unum | how would you go about saying who is right |
| 21:08.53 | dataw0lf | Show me the bill and the vote. |
| 21:08.58 | _psychic_ | unum: yeah but it seems like a "debate" should allow two parties to demonstrate an argument |
| 21:09.13 | unum | I'm not following you |
| 21:09.17 | dataw0lf | _psychic_: they don't even answer the questions. |
| 21:09.37 | dataw0lf | we're pandering to the lowest common denominator. |
| 21:09.51 | _psychic_ | yeah and it sucks |
| 21:10.04 | _psychic_ | both of them |
| 21:10.04 | dataw0lf | somehow the lowest common denominator has become this aspiration |
| 21:10.15 | unum | now I admit that it's a problem that we don't ever get a lot of details |
| 21:10.17 | dataw0lf | and 'elitists' have been painted with this critical brush. |
| 21:10.21 | unum | is that what you mean |
| 21:10.51 | _psychic_ | I mostly mean to say that "campaigns" seem more bent on winning the contest than making America a better place to be |
| 21:10.52 | _psychic_ | it's a game |
| 21:11.03 | dataw0lf | Personally, I trust elitists. I trust elite soldiers who were in my unit, I trust elite pilots to fly the planes I ride on, I trust elite cooks to make my meals. They're elite because they're better, smarter, more successful. |
| 21:11.16 | _psychic_ | and it creates fanboi media outlets |
| 21:11.21 | dataw0lf | this celebration of mediocrity really angers me. |
| 21:11.27 | _psychic_ | huffpo and dailykos on one side |
| 21:11.28 | unum | dataw0lf: agreed |
| 21:11.30 | _psychic_ | fox news on the other |
| 21:11.49 | unum | I searched for my company name on google today |
| 21:11.54 | unum | found a post on dailykos |
| 21:12.20 | unum | aparantly if you call nancy peloski a liberal it's meant as an insult and it's a push poll |
| 21:12.42 | dataw0lf | a "liberal" or a "san francisco liberal" ? |
| 21:12.46 | unum | it's funny how quickly everyone jumps to that term |
| 21:12.51 | unum | dataw0lf: the second |
| 21:13.03 | dataw0lf | yea, that "san francisco liberal" thing is ridiculous. |
| 21:13.16 | dataw0lf | It's an obvious attempt to frame liberals as homosexuals amongst the group you're pandering to. |
| 21:13.32 | unum | yes, but that doesn't make the poll a push poll |
| 21:13.43 | dataw0lf | If you frame something like that, I would say it does. |
| 21:13.55 | unum | wikipedia explains it better than I can |
| 21:14.15 | unum | according to wikipedia it can still be a valid poll |
| 21:14.23 | dataw0lf | well it shouldn't be. |
| 21:14.53 | unum | the company is not neccisarly trying to change public opinion with the poll |
| 21:14.57 | mgeary | "if someone told you that Barack Obama wears shoes made of puppy skins, and that he eats babies for breakfast, would that make you more likely, or less likely to vote for him?" |
| 21:15.05 | dataw0lf | if they're using terms like san francisco liberal, they are, unum. |
| 21:15.15 | dataw0lf | mgeary: MORE LIKELY |
| 21:15.24 | dataw0lf | gawd Kellogg's Frosted Babies ftw |
| 21:15.24 | unum | dataw0lf: they are often testing the term to see if it's effective |
| 21:15.31 | unum | and then they'll use it in a tv ad |
| 21:15.50 | unum | mgeary: and that's what makes it a push poll |
| 21:15.55 | dataw0lf | so they're testing the effect of framing an argument to lean one way? |
| 21:16.01 | unum | dataw0lf: yes |
| 21:16.06 | dataw0lf | that's not a valid poll, then. |
| 21:16.09 | unum | why not? |
| 21:16.21 | unum | this isn't data that's going to be released to the public |
| 21:16.24 | dataw0lf | because the results have been purposefully skewed by the question. |
| 21:16.37 | unum | it is the opponent testing to see what he should say in his tv ads |
| 21:17.37 | dataw0lf | *sigh* Whatever. The implication of the term "poll" evidently even skews this argument. |
| 21:17.45 | dataw0lf | I won't debate dictionary terms. |
| 21:18.45 | unum | you are trying to find out if a certain term changes someone's mind about a candidate. |
| 21:18.51 | unum | you are doing research on the term |
| 21:19.10 | unum | to find out if it's effective |
| 21:19.35 | unum | the overall purpose is not to change people's minds but to find out how to change people's mind |
| 21:19.38 | unum | s |
| 21:19.58 | dataw0lf | you can't observe something without affecting it. |
| 21:20.09 | dataw0lf | and a framed poll is far from merely observing. |
| 21:20.24 | unum | a push poll is defined by objective |
| 21:20.48 | unum | if your primary objective is to change their mind vs figuring out how to change their mind |
| 21:20.54 | herlo | I need an element that allows a td to push the data inside *down* about .5em but mothing seems to make that work! |
| 21:21.15 | dataw0lf | unum: Why don't you contact New Hampshire's election office. |
| 21:21.21 | dataw0lf | And see if that poll would be legal. |
| 21:21.24 | wps | td { padding-top: .5em } |
| 21:21.32 | dataw0lf | (since push polling is illegal in New Hampshire) |
| 21:21.46 | dataw0lf | I kinda doubt they'll take you at your word : "But we're not TRYING to affect people!" |
| 21:22.20 | unum | dataw0lf: I'll take a look at the poll we are doing there right now. |
| 21:22.21 | unum | though it's unlikely to have anything like that. it's a tracking study |
| 21:22.58 | _psychic_ | I think it'd be funny to do a poll that was obviously biased just to see peoples reactions. |
| 21:23.04 | _psychic_ | (or lack of, I suppose) |
| 21:23.13 | carmony | ug, I hate congress's website |
| 21:23.28 | carmony | here is the link to the nyt article stating it was going in front of congress: http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9E06E3D6123BF932A2575AC0A9659C8B63&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=all |
| 21:25.40 | unum | looks like in new hampshire you just have to say who you are working for |
| 21:25.43 | unum | same in virginia |
| 21:26.20 | unum | yep there it is at the end of the survey |
| 21:27.44 | SunSparc | Speaking of polls reminds me of the petition that Penn and Teller got people to sign to ban dihydrogen monoxide. |
| 21:29.02 | unum | Paul Hodes voted numerous times to block a comprehensive energy plan in August of this year, while gas prices soared. And, rather than work to fix the legislation, Hodes voted to send Congress on a five-week vacation without addressing it. |
| 21:29.08 | unum | that was in a nh poll |
| 21:29.34 | carmony | LOL, speaking of petitions.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uPcthZL2RE |
| 21:31.33 | SunSparc | hehe |
| 21:31.37 | SunSparc | funny, yet sad |
| 21:36.00 | carmony | My favorite part is the "smart chick", "not smart shick" |
| 21:36.04 | carmony | chick |
| 21:41.49 | wps | hold onto your butts |
| 21:42.13 | wps | yes, he is an idiot for doing it in the middle of the day |
| 21:43.44 | SunSparc | wps: This is for you then -> http://xkcd.com/303/ |
| 21:46.36 | carmony | LOL, SunSparc, I own the t-shirt of that comic strip :[p |
| 21:46.37 | carmony | :p |
| 21:46.43 | carmony | a t-shirt I should say |
| 21:46.47 | SunSparc | Lucky! |
| 21:48.29 | SunSparc | The t-shirt I want is the sudo one. |
| 21:48.41 | carmony | http://store.xkcd.com/ I have the Linux Cheat Sheet and Compiling |
| 21:48.57 | unum | so anyways. according to the new hampshire law. saying something bad about a politician is not a push poll. |
| 21:55.02 | SunSparc | :) |
| 21:56.45 | herlo | wps: thank you |
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| 22:06.17 | josephscott | ping macnewbold |
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| 22:10.56 | carmony | what does "ping" do? |
| 22:11.07 | SunSparc | carmony: nothing |
| 22:11.09 | SunSparc | :) |
| 22:11.16 | unum | in irc? |
| 22:11.33 | SunSparc | Just an excuse to say someone's name to let them know you are looking for them |
| 22:11.46 | unum | oh when people say ping in irc |
| 22:11.49 | carmony | lol, k, was just wondering if jbot would do something |
| 22:11.54 | SunSparc | ~ping |
| 22:11.55 | jbot | ~pong |
| 22:12.04 | carmony | ~ping SunSparc |
| 22:12.05 | jbot | pong SunSparc |
| 22:12.08 | carmony | :p |
| 22:12.11 | wps | you're welcome, herlo |
| 22:12.14 | SunSparc | :) |
| 22:12.39 | SunSparc | ~mgeary carmony |
| 22:12.39 | jbot | go do something useful |
| 22:18.59 | unum | I had to to send out the thedailywtf link to that thread |
| 22:19.01 | thebigdog | if anyone is interested in an oreilly webcast for iphoneLive check it out here - http://tinyurl.com/iphoneLiveUPHPU |
| 22:33.49 | herlo | wps: it was funny, I didn't have the left and right columns separated. Because of that both columns in the row would move the same distance. It took me a while to realize I only wanted to affect the left column :) |
| 22:34.05 | wps | ah |
| 22:34.20 | herlo | I had the right css, just the wrong logic |
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| 23:01.10 | SunSparc | mindjuju: You have Call of Duty 4 yet? |
| 23:01.16 | SunSparc | We got our game server up. |
| 23:01.28 | SunSparc | We have CoD4 and TF2 on it. |
| 23:02.04 | _psychic_ | TF2 only right now |
| 23:10.35 | carmony | bah, I was going to ask SunSparc the ip address :p |
| 23:13.15 | mgeary | some day i'm going to join KUER's producer circle |
| 23:27.26 | herlo | sure you are |
| 23:33.33 | carmony | kuer? |
| 23:34.01 | mgeary | our local bastion of NPR goodness |
| 23:34.16 | mgeary | yes, KUER. thanks. Don't care as much about the TV version |
| 23:34.56 | mgeary | herlo: just you wait |
| 23:42.13 | herlo | mgeary: I guess we'll see |
| 23:42.17 | herlo | carmony: kuer.org |
| 23:42.44 | herlo | I hate the diane rheem show |
| 23:49.45 | wps | I hate it when things work on dev, staging, but not production |
| 23:49.46 | wps | :( |
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| 23:53.58 | herlo | diane rheem isn't jazz |
