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| 15:23.47 | wps | good morning gents |
| 15:24.05 | _psychic_ | mornin |
| 15:24.05 | wps | I hate to ask a second time (did on the mailing list but have received no responses) |
| 15:25.18 | wps | but anyone have any idea how to get text to be outputted when a page is read by fsockopen and session_start() is called in the script? |
| 15:25.29 | wps | (I can explain in greater detail if you missed my post to the list) |
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| 15:33.09 | macnewbold | wps, I'm still a little confused. there's a script that is using fsockopen to load another URL, which is a script that prints out the session, right? |
| 15:33.33 | macnewbold | which one do you call script one/A and which one script two/B? Which one of them is part of an application that you don't want to hack up? |
| 15:33.44 | macnewbold | ~lart mindjuju1 |
| 15:33.44 | jbot | executes killall -KILL mindjuju1 |
| 15:33.45 | wps | i'll clarify |
| 15:34.01 | wps | script A is part of an application that I don't want to hack |
| 15:34.10 | macnewbold | which is the one doing the fsockopen? |
| 15:34.14 | wps | this application provides a way for you to remotely authenticate users (single sign-on) |
| 15:34.42 | wps | script A (part of the application's sign-sign on), calls a custom script (script B) |
| 15:34.47 | wps | script A (part of the application's sign-sign on), calls a custom script (script B ) |
| 15:35.08 | wps | script A reads script B via fsockopen |
| 15:35.23 | wps | script A passes the user's session id in the URL |
| 15:35.35 | wps | script B picks up the session in the URL and the starts the session |
| 15:35.37 | wps | all of that works |
| 15:35.46 | wps | if I do this: |
| 15:35.50 | wps | echo 'wshearer'; |
| 15:36.01 | wps | in script B, script A sees it |
| 15:36.03 | wps | but if I do this: |
| 15:36.09 | wps | session_start(); |
| 15:36.11 | wps | echo 'wshearer'; |
| 15:36.15 | wps | script A does not |
| 15:36.30 | wps | calling session_start kills all output for some reason |
| 15:36.38 | wps | does that make sense? |
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| 15:49.03 | mgeary | fungus: you around? |
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| 15:50.29 | fungus | yup |
| 15:51.33 | _psychic_ | The correct ping for fungus should be: "Are you among us?" |
| 15:53.43 | mgeary | ah, i think i found the prob |
| 15:55.02 | wps | to my problem? |
| 15:55.04 | mgeary | had to change the IP of a master nameserver over the weekend |
| 15:55.08 | mgeary | no, wps, to mine :) |
| 15:55.13 | wps | dang :( |
| 15:55.21 | mgeary | what's your problem? i must have missed it |
| 15:55.50 | macnewbold | wps: the session_start() involves setting a cookie generally, doesn't it? |
| 15:55.55 | macnewbold | that might be where it is hanging up |
| 15:55.59 | wps | depends |
| 15:56.06 | wps | if you are doing cookies sessions, yes |
| 15:56.08 | macnewbold | if you haven't already, I'd suggest turning on notices in scriptB |
| 15:56.11 | wps | but with URL sessions no |
| 15:56.22 | macnewbold | and is scriptB set up for URL sessions, or cookie sessions? |
| 15:56.32 | wps | B uses URL sessions |
| 15:56.35 | macnewbold | k |
| 15:56.37 | macnewbold | hm |
| 15:56.41 | wps | notices won't help unfortunately since this is all AJAX |
| 15:57.00 | macnewbold | right, but if any notices are being generated, they might be a clue as to why this is all happening |
| 15:57.14 | wps | but I won't see them |
| 15:57.15 | macnewbold | even if they're just shoved into an error log where you can see them, they might help |
| 15:57.15 | macnewbold | hm |
| 15:57.59 | macnewbold | you might try taking script A or a snippet of it and making a little test script that will show you full output from scriptB - everything it sees from the fsockopen |
| 15:58.52 | macnewbold | or putting error_log() calls into your script b perhaps... I'm curious if execution is stopping at the session_start() or if it is just causing grief as far as the output goes. |
| 15:59.33 | macnewbold | you might try grabbing all of the scriptB results into an output buffer, then saving the contents of the buffer to a local file from within script b before it returns them all to scriptA |
| 16:02.14 | wps | I will try that |
| 16:02.30 | wps | script A reads all of the heads and everything and looks through them a line at a time |
| 16:02.42 | wps | I have mail()'d myself each line, so I am pretty aware of what's it's seeing |
| 16:03.02 | thebigdog | wps you can see them if you have something to view the ajax calls |
| 16:03.14 | wps | like what? |
| 16:03.20 | thebigdog | firebug |
| 16:03.38 | wps | k, I'll try that |
| 16:03.49 | thebigdog | you just need to view the call or the output |
| 16:14.36 | mindjuju | ~apb macnewbold |
| 16:14.37 | jbot | ACTION summons Beth to rough up macnewbold |
| 16:15.08 | macnewbold | ~bonk mindjuju |
| 16:15.09 | jbot | ACTION bonks macnewbold on behalf of mindjuju |
| 16:15.21 | mindjuju | sup fo |
| 16:15.23 | wps | here's a visual if it helps: |
| 16:15.23 | wps | http://rafb.net/p/JdWnEL31.html |
| 16:15.58 | macnewbold | wps: If you can see every line of output from scriptB, are there any warnings or notices visible? They'd be helpful clues if there are any there to be seen |
| 16:16.57 | wps | there currently isn't anything being written to the error_log, but I probably don't have reporting set to the highest setting |
| 16:16.59 | wps | I will try that now |
| 16:17.09 | mgeary | wps: you can also use syslog() |
| 16:19.12 | mindjuju | spent 2.5 horus trying to figure out why my code to inform all clients of a security upgrade and mandatory password change. then i find out by chance that the host actually has a LIMIT of how many emails you can send out in an hour |
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| 16:19.31 | mindjuju | never heard of that before, and its DUMB! if you're going to do that, you should publish it somewhere |
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| 16:20.13 | beandog | ~donut mindjuju |
| 16:20.31 | unum | mindjuju: who's your host? |
| 16:20.37 | mindjuju | bluehost |
| 16:20.44 | macnewbold | hehe |
| 16:20.47 | macnewbold | haha |
| 16:20.51 | macnewbold | heehee |
| 16:20.55 | beandog | heh |
| 16:21.07 | thebigdog | mindjuju, i spent 3 hours trying to figure out why a query did not work to find out i did not set the db object correctly |
| 16:21.21 | macnewbold | I thought you had servers coloc'd at XM, mindjuju? Why the bluehost? |
| 16:21.45 | mindjuju | servers are for BGM, this is a contract |
| 16:22.02 | mindjuju | i need a non-dumb host |
| 16:22.10 | mindjuju | with decent support |
| 16:22.13 | wps | is this the correct way to set the error reporting level? |
| 16:22.14 | wps | error_reporting(341); |
| 16:23.36 | thebigdog | error_reporting(E_ALL); |
| 16:24.01 | thebigdog | or error_reporting(6143); |
| 16:24.03 | wps | do I really want all? |
| 16:24.06 | beandog | no |
| 16:24.08 | wps | won't that be more than I can parse through? |
| 16:24.10 | beandog | notices are *freaking annoying* |
| 16:24.43 | thebigdog | for something like this i would get everything |
| 16:24.49 | DexterTheDragon | you should be programming so you don't get notices |
| 16:25.01 | beandog | DexterTheDragon, I couldnt disagree more. |
| 16:25.02 | wps | kâ¦Â ran itâ¦Â nothing written out to error_log |
| 16:25.09 | wps | :( |
| 16:25.11 | beandog | It throws out the advantages of PHP, like checking to see if a variable exists. |
| 16:25.21 | beandog | I'm not gonna throw in 500 isset() lines just to ignore a notice. |
| 16:25.31 | beandog | waste of time |
| 16:25.32 | DexterTheDragon | beandog: I've seen way too many bugs caused by someone ignoring notices |
| 16:25.44 | beandog | DexterTheDragon, doh, Im thinking of *warnings* |
| 16:25.46 | beandog | fail. |
| 16:25.52 | beandog | Yes, notices are bad. |
| 16:25.54 | beandog | :) |
| 16:26.04 | beandog | er, wait do I have em confused |
| 16:26.09 | beandog | meh |
| 16:26.15 | macnewbold | beandog: you're talking about notices... |
| 16:26.40 | macnewbold | they're relatively easy to get rid of usually: before the first one, throw in an isset that sets it if it isn't already set |
| 16:26.42 | macnewbold | then problem solved |
| 16:26.47 | mgeary | is there a way to know a kernel & version besides uname? uname isn't giving me all i want |
| 16:26.57 | macnewbold | mgeary: did you try uname -a ? |
| 16:27.01 | mgeary | yes |
| 16:27.06 | mgeary | 2.6.12-1.1381_FC3 #1 Fri Oct 21 03:46:55 EDT 2005 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux |
| 16:27.08 | macnewbold | dmesg might have more |
| 16:27.13 | mgeary | is that really FedoraCore 3?? |
| 16:27.17 | mgeary | isn't that ancient? |
| 16:27.24 | beandog | well, 2.6.12 is ancient |
| 16:27.24 | thebigdog | yes very |
| 16:27.26 | DexterTheDragon | its an old kernel |
| 16:27.28 | beandog | thats like a few years old |
| 16:27.29 | macnewbold | well, the date on it is oct 21 2005 :-D |
| 16:27.55 | mgeary | yeah |
| 16:27.56 | macnewbold | that's a little less than 3 years old |
| 16:27.56 | mgeary | bah |
| 16:28.13 | macnewbold | so unless your uptime is pushing 900 days, it's time for an upgrade probably |
| 16:28.22 | macnewbold | ~freebsd mgeary |
| 16:28.24 | mgeary | heh |
| 16:28.27 | mgeary | not my server |
| 16:28.30 | thebigdog | no dont do it mgeary |
| 16:28.37 | macnewbold | ~silence thebigdog |
| 16:28.38 | jbot | ACTION shoves an apple in thebigdog's mouth, shoves a spit through ... well, uhm, anyway ... then builds a nice fire and starts roasting |
| 16:28.40 | mindjuju | 900 days? wow, what would that be like? |
| 16:28.51 | thebigdog | hehe |
| 16:28.54 | macnewbold | mindjuju: come away from the dark side... |
| 16:29.04 | macnewbold | and you'll get much longer uptimes |
| 16:29.15 | beandog | 10:29:09 up 402 days, 15:42, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 |
| 16:29.17 | beandog | :D |
| 16:29.19 | beandog | gentoo++ |
| 16:29.20 | wps | awesome |
| 16:29.22 | wps | i'm at 240 days |
| 16:29.33 | mgeary | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:29.59 | DexterTheDragon | 10:30:19 up 266 days, 27 min, 3 users, load average: 0.00, 0.02, 0.05 |
| 16:31.11 | mgeary | what's the current recommended FC version? |
| 16:32.09 | DexterTheDragon | well the current one is 9 |
| 16:32.14 | mgeary | sheesh |
| 16:33.48 | macnewbold | I think this is my best one at the moment: |
| 16:33.50 | macnewbold | 10:33AM up 906 days, 11:16, 1 user, load averages: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 |
| 16:34.00 | wps | no way |
| 16:34.16 | wps | that's awesome |
| 16:34.16 | macnewbold | yep, last reboot was when I upgraded to this: |
| 16:34.18 | macnewbold | FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE-p8 (GENERIC) #0: Fri Jan 6 14:18:46 MST 2006 |
| 16:34.21 | wps | 2.5 years |
| 16:34.27 | mindjuju | truthfully, i don't have OS installs that long |
| 16:34.34 | macnewbold | on windows, you'd be so hacked you can't |
| 16:34.59 | macnewbold | fungus once had a party for one of his boxes (freebsd of course, IIRC) that hit its 1000 day mark |
| 16:35.15 | macnewbold | we're only 3 months away from that with that box |
| 16:35.27 | mindjuju | 1000 days of continuous operation?? |
| 16:35.52 | fungus | Yup, that server got to over 1100 before the eviction. |
| 16:35.57 | macnewbold | sweet |
| 16:36.29 | macnewbold | my uptimes would be a little higher, but occasionally I upgrade the OS and reboot onto the new kernel. That one hasn't needed it though. |
| 16:36.47 | mgeary | can anyone point me to a yum repository that would have php-mcrypt for that FC3 machine? |
| 16:36.57 | macnewbold | wow, that's a good question. |
| 16:37.21 | wps | my server has been running the same OS for four years |
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| 16:44.53 | mgeary | hmm |
| 16:44.56 | mgeary | so i found this: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/mcrypt#Fedora3 |
| 16:45.11 | mgeary | how do i get the actual name/address of the yum repo from that? |
| 16:47.39 | mgeary | i'd go ask on #fedora, but experience has shown they'll just mock me for having to touch a server running such an old kernel |
| 16:50.03 | mgeary | ~crickets |
| 16:50.04 | jbot | ACTION chirps uninterestedly |
| 16:50.25 | mindjuju | mgeary, don't know anything about that, sorry |
| 16:50.38 | mindjuju | but you should zip over to #utos and ask herlo |
| 16:50.41 | mindjuju | he'd kow for sure |
| 16:50.43 | thebigdog | mgeary, just grab the rpm |
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| 16:51.25 | thebigdog | mgeary or you can edit the /etc/yum.conf |
| 16:51.36 | mgeary | yeah, but to include which repo? |
| 16:51.45 | mgeary | i've got about *this* much experience with yum |
| 16:52.13 | thebigdog | what is the url to the repo |
| 16:52.26 | mgeary | well, that's kind of the point |
| 16:52.30 | mgeary | if i knew that.... |
| 16:52.50 | thebigdog | i doubt you are going to find one that old |
| 16:53.10 | mgeary | well, that link i sent above suggests.... |
| 16:53.57 | wps | mgeary, thebigdog, macnewbold, I am getting somewhere |
| 16:54.10 | mgeary | didja get xdebug on that machine? :) |
| 16:54.22 | wps | I wish |
| 16:54.28 | wps | as fgets() reads each line, I am writing that line to a flat file |
| 16:54.31 | wps | and I see an error |
| 16:55.03 | wps | Undefined variable: _SESSION |
| 16:55.20 | wps | which is crazy |
| 16:55.37 | wps | it's defined if I mail($_SESSION), but it's undefined if I echo $_SESSION???? |
| 16:56.38 | DexterTheDragon | is mail suppressing the error? |
| 16:58.00 | thebigdog | mgeary, check this one out http://livna-dl.reloumirrors.net/fedora/3/i386/yum/stable/ |
| 16:59.05 | mgeary | thebigdog: don't see mcrypt in there anywhere |
| 16:59.10 | wps | might, DexterTheDragon, but it contains the right value |
| 17:00.16 | macnewbold | wps: is your session start not working? you probably wouldn't have $_SESSION before that runs. |
| 17:00.17 | wps | DOH! |
| 17:00.28 | wps | I had session_start commented out |
| 17:00.28 | wps | :) |
| 17:00.37 | wps | running too many tests to keep it all straight |
| 17:03.10 | mgeary | okay, i've got the base mcrypt libs as rpms. How do i install an rpm? |
| 17:04.27 | mgeary | c'mon all you linux gurus, this is your chance to humble a compile-it-from-scratch Mac User |
| 17:05.11 | fungus | rpm -ivh rpmfile [rpmfile ...] |
| 17:06.09 | mgeary | thanks |
| 17:06.38 | mgeary | hmm. does it say "success" when done? It just gave me a progress bar and then kicked me to a prompt again |
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| 17:08.39 | herlo | yum list '*mcrypt*' is more appropriate |
| 17:08.49 | mgeary | yeah, nothing there |
| 17:09.07 | mgeary | tried to find a FC3 repo that had it... no luck, not that i'd know the best place(s) to look |
| 17:09.26 | herlo | mgeary: what is mcrypt? |
| 17:09.28 | herlo | what does it do? |
| 17:09.44 | mgeary | replacement for crypt. improved encryption lib |
| 17:09.49 | herlo | php-mcrypt.i386 |
| 17:09.53 | herlo | perhaps that one? |
| 17:09.53 | mgeary | yes |
| 17:09.58 | mgeary | find it for fc3? |
| 17:10.01 | herlo | nope |
| 17:10.04 | mgeary | bah |
| 17:10.04 | herlo | f9 |
| 17:10.06 | mgeary | yeah |
| 17:10.29 | herlo | oh, you are on an *unsupported* version too, it's likely nobody will be able to find it |
| 17:10.32 | herlo | however, I suggest #fedora |
| 17:10.35 | mgeary | heh |
| 17:10.37 | mgeary | i did |
| 17:10.42 | mgeary | got the expected response |
| 17:10.48 | herlo | and they said they don't support it right? |
| 17:10.56 | mgeary | yep |
| 17:11.00 | mgeary | OMG, upgrade your server!! |
| 17:11.03 | herlo | yep |
| 17:11.07 | herlo | I would agree |
| 17:11.12 | herlo | but I understnad if you acn't |
| 17:11.12 | mgeary | not my server |
| 17:11.13 | herlo | can't |
| 17:11.24 | mgeary | and the guy i'm trying to help can't upgrade it right now. too many ripples |
| 17:11.27 | herlo | well, maybe you should tell them the reason is that it's too old... |
| 17:11.45 | herlo | and if this feature isn't available. have you tried src rpms and installed it |
| 17:11.59 | herlo | should be able to do it, just takes a bunch more wokr |
| 17:12.03 | mgeary | well, i've now got mcrypt and mcrypt-devel installed |
| 17:12.09 | mgeary | but i need to get a php extension |
| 17:12.09 | herlo | ok |
| 17:12.15 | herlo | hold pls |
| 17:12.43 | herlo | it appears to be a standard part of php? |
| 17:12.47 | mgeary | yeah |
| 17:12.53 | mgeary | might not exist as a dynamic extension :/ |
| 17:12.58 | mgeary | which means recompiling php |
| 17:12.59 | herlo | source? |
| 17:13.04 | macnewbold | mindjuju: the yahoo thingy for RSVP for the geek lunch thursday won't let me RSVP without a yahoo id, plus I need to rsvp for 2. so consider this our rsvp :) |
| 17:13.05 | herlo | yeah, what a pain |
| 17:13.46 | mindjuju | macnewbold, so is that rsvp for 2 or 3? |
| 17:14.17 | macnewbold | total of two. Me and Benjam. I imagine others from CG will be there too, but he's the only one that asked me to RSVP for him. |
| 17:14.47 | mindjuju | :) |
| 17:15.41 | wps | mindjuju, I created some links for yah :) |
| 17:18.13 | mindjuju | awesome! |
| 17:30.03 | Guest85766 | Good afternoon :P |
| 17:30.07 | Guest85766 | well... almost afternoon :p |
| 17:30.19 | Guest85766 | wait, what happened to my name? |
| 17:34.39 | carmony | there we go |
| 17:40.54 | mgeary | anyone confirm that http://phprpms.sourceforge.net/ gives a blank page? |
| 17:41.53 | mgeary | thanks |
| 17:47.07 | jsmith | mgeary: Yeah... that train left the station a long time ago :-( |
| 17:47.13 | mgeary | heh |
| 17:48.50 | carmony | Hrm... maybe I should go to the happy sumo. |
| 17:49.31 | wps | happy sumo ++; |
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| 17:52.41 | jsmith | wps: Sure... now I'm *really* hungry |
| 17:56.58 | wps | sorry about that |
| 17:58.18 | jsmith | wps: No you're not :-p |
| 17:58.45 | wps | true |
| 18:05.07 | mindjuju | so jsmith, what up with skype and asterisk |
| 18:05.10 | mindjuju | sounds cool |
| 18:05.14 | carmony | how many people go to the lunched? |
| 18:05.16 | carmony | lunches* |
| 18:05.31 | mindjuju | last utos/uphpu we had 35 |
| 18:05.37 | jsmith | mindjuju: We announced an official partnership with Skype at AstriCon... skype channel driver is currently in beta |
| 18:05.39 | mindjuju | last utos we had near 50 |
| 18:05.53 | jsmith | mindjuju: (you can sign up for the beta at astricon.net/skype) |
| 18:06.00 | jsmith | mindjuju: What else do you want to know? |
| 18:06.22 | mindjuju | jsmith, just that, read it on a blog somewhere that skype and digium were doing something together |
| 18:07.42 | jsmith | mindjuju: Absolutely... finally you can do things like IVR, call queues, etc. w/ Skype |
| 18:08.31 | mindjuju | that's cool |
| 18:13.20 | carmony | uggg.. I'm hungry |
| 18:13.42 | mindjuju | ~give carmony a churro |
| 18:13.43 | jbot | ACTION gives a churro to carmony |
| 18:13.52 | carmony | Mmm, thanks! :p |
| 18:14.07 | carmony | Anyone know where they have good churros in Ogden? :P |
| 18:14.30 | mindjuju | after watching that microsoft commercial with jerry seinfeild, i've had a hankering for churros |
| 18:14.41 | mindjuju | and black leather shoes |
| 18:14.47 | carmony | lol |
| 18:14.53 | carmony | those commercials were bad |
| 18:15.19 | mindjuju | those, I'm a PC commericials are much better |
| 18:16.07 | carmony | oh yeah |
| 18:16.25 | carmony | I was getting mad about some of those "I'm a Mac" commecials |
| 18:16.36 | carmony | they were getting pretty misleading |
| 18:16.55 | mindjuju | how so? |
| 18:17.11 | carmony | Well, just how they're the #1 sold laptop. |
| 18:17.24 | mindjuju | in fact, i haven't interfaced with a mac in a couple of years, maybe several |
| 18:17.39 | carmony | which is true if you compare them against a sony model, or a hp model |
| 18:18.03 | carmony | BUT OS X laptops compared to Windows Based laptops, there are way more Windows based laptops |
| 18:18.20 | carmony | Also, "Microsoft Office" for a Mac isn't as good |
| 18:18.53 | carmony | My brother who works at best buy says the #1 returned laptop right now is the Mac |
| 18:19.01 | mindjuju | really? |
| 18:19.12 | carmony | cause people buy it, try to use it, and return it cause they can't figure it out |
| 18:19.35 | carmony | He had a guy tell him "It didn't have internet explorer and I could play my steam games on it." |
| 18:19.59 | carmony | couldn't* |
| 18:20.01 | mindjuju | i wonder if steam works in vm fusion? |
| 18:20.27 | carmony | I think it would, but the 3d rendering I would imagine would be slow and not really deliver what you're looking for. |
| 19:03.57 | itimber | best buy sells macs?!?!? |
| 19:04.19 | itimber | or are you talking about the service co.... geek squad |
| 19:04.45 | itimber | :) |
| 19:07.06 | wps | with their marketing girls? |
| 19:09.13 | fungus | itimber, yes, best buy sells macs. |
| 19:09.41 | itimber | wps: no, w/ their customer service rep.... named TIm |
| 19:10.01 | itimber | fungus: shows how long it's been since I've been to best buy |
| 19:10.02 | itimber | LOL |
| 19:11.37 | itimber | speaking of Macs.... anyone have a mac and use Linux as a second OS? |
| 19:11.55 | itimber | and if so, how do you go about it? VM? Dual Boot? Live CD? |
| 19:12.05 | itimber | USB Drive? |
| 19:12.08 | itimber | etc |
| 19:12.22 | itimber | and what OS do you use? |
| 19:12.33 | itimber | Yellow Dog? Ubuntu? |
| 19:12.41 | jsmith | itimber: I'm dual-booting Fedora and OSX on my MacBook Pro |
| 19:13.09 | jsmith | itimber: Of course, I was running Fedora on my Powerbook before that, too |
| 19:13.45 | itimber | of course you were jsmith.... Mr. Asterisks himself |
| 19:14.12 | itimber | what do you use OSX for then? |
| 19:16.00 | jsmith | That's an awfully good question... mostly letting my kids play with GarageBand |
| 19:16.15 | jsmith | (especially now that I bought a MIDI box to hook to the Clavinova) |
| 19:16.30 | itimber | that's cool |
| 19:17.50 | jsmith | The kids sure do better with their piano lessons now that they know they can pull things into GarageBand and rock out |
| 19:20.06 | mgeary | i bought my kid a nice midi keyboard with that exact goal in mind |
| 19:20.19 | mgeary | but we need to spend more time in GB before he sees the light, i think |
| 19:20.36 | itimber | that's cool |
| 19:21.00 | itimber | mgeary: you're a machead, right? Do you have a linux option on your setup at all? |
| 19:21.10 | mgeary | yeah, no linux here |
| 19:21.23 | itimber | ah |
| 19:21.56 | mgeary | i don't see any reason to run Linux on a desktop |
| 19:22.04 | mgeary | but i certainly don't have a problem with those that do |
| 19:23.13 | jsmith | mgeary: I'm glad... otherwise, you and I would be duking it out :-) |
| 19:24.22 | mgeary | bah |
| 19:24.35 | itimber | woah... that's a low blow jsmith |
| 19:25.29 | jsmith | Oh wait, OS X already messes up the routing tables from time to time... I don't have to plant no stinkin' gremlin :-) |
| 19:52.14 | wps | is session_name() just the name of the cookie that contains the session ID (if using cookie-based session) or the key in the key/value pair (if using URL-based sessions)? |
| 19:52.28 | wps | is it anything more than that? |
| 19:55.00 | DexterTheDragon | wps: http://us.php.net/session_name |
| 19:55.12 | wps | reading that caused me to ask my question |
| 19:55.14 | wps | :) |
| 19:57.22 | mgeary | wps: session_name allows you to have "namespaces" on a single server that might have multiple apps using $_SESSION |
| 19:57.45 | mgeary | that's the practical effect. I haven't inspected the actual name of the cookie to see if/how it's different |
| 19:58.45 | wps | k |
| 19:58.55 | mgeary | it's very useful on development servers |
| 19:59.21 | mgeary | less so on servers dedicated to a single webapp, i'd think, though you could come up with creative ways to use it |
| 20:00.44 | mgeary | so, in Excel, if you format a cell as a "Number" cell, and put in the cell "1-2", it outputs 37987.00 |
| 20:00.48 | mgeary | very useful |
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| 20:45.26 | wps | anyone willing to ping a site for me? |
| 20:45.29 | wps | http://blogs.omniture.com |
| 20:45.37 | mgeary | works |
| 20:45.41 | wps | thanks |
| 20:46.00 | wps | a coworker claims the site is down, but I don't believe so |
| 20:46.19 | mgeary | ~fullofbeans wps' co-worker |
| 20:53.16 | itimber | works |
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| 22:09.56 | wps | sessions are serialized, right? |
| 22:10.06 | wps | are they supposed to contain pipes? |
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| 22:34.16 | beandog | http://www.experts-exchange.com/Web_Development/Miscellaneous/Q_22031739.html |
| 22:36.21 | _psychic_ | 10 "expert" comments and 3 admin comments |
| 22:36.24 | _psychic_ | before the solution |
| 22:36.47 | unum | how dumb do you have to be to ask that question |
| 22:36.50 | SunSparc | beandog: lol |
| 22:37.16 | SunSparc | lol |
| 22:37.30 | unum | and then not understand the first 13 responses. maybe he should look for a forum in his native language |
| 22:37.31 | SunSparc | It just keeps being funny |
| 22:37.36 | wps | mgeary, macnewbold, thebigdog, I found out why the script wasn't working |
| 22:37.54 | mgeary | what was it? |
| 22:38.00 | wps | Warning: fsockopen() [function.fsockopen]: unable to connect |
| 22:38.05 | wps | Unable to find the socket transport "http" - did you forget to enable it when you configured PHP? |
| 22:38.10 | thebigdog | haha |
| 22:38.20 | wps | ~wedgie thebigdog |
| 22:38.21 | jbot | ACTION hangs thebigdog from the flag pole by his underwear |
| 22:40.17 | mgeary | wps: that doesn't explain why it worked as expected when you didn't start/use the session |
| 22:40.51 | wps | hmmâ¦Â excellent point |
| 22:41.32 | wps | my head hurts |
| 22:41.35 | wps | I want to go home |
| 22:42.52 | jsmith-away | ~send wps home |
| 22:42.53 | jbot | Go (.*?), wps |
| 22:43.17 | jsmith-away | Ooh, nice non-greedy match there ;-) |
| 22:45.50 | thebigdog | if expert-exchange paid me for my replies then i would use it |
| 22:46.33 | jsmith-away | Amen, brother! |
| 22:46.38 | wps | found answer |
| 22:46.47 | wps | the author is not actually using fsockopen |
| 22:47.01 | wps | he basically wrote an web client |
| 22:47.10 | jsmith-away | You're kidding |
| 22:47.13 | wps | he connects straight to :80, and parses everything headers and all |
| 22:47.20 | jsmith-away | Classic case of NIH syndrome |
| 22:47.38 | mgeary | curl++ |
| 22:47.56 | wps | NIH? |
| 22:48.11 | jsmith-away | Not Invented Here |
| 22:48.26 | jsmith-away | Programmers who can't do things the "right way", as they didn't invent it |
| 22:48.26 | mgeary | NIH++ |
| 22:48.35 | jsmith-away | So they have to invent their own way of doing things |
| 22:48.45 | jsmith-away | You know, people who write their own database unabstraction layer |
| 22:48.47 | thebigdog | _psychic_, can you see the answers? |
| 22:48.54 | _psychic_ | no |
| 22:48.55 | jsmith-away | Or their own AJAX libraries |
| 22:49.04 | jsmith-away | Or their own backup software (heaven forbid!) |
| 22:49.58 | wps | thanks everyone |
| 22:51.12 | itimber | I'm out guys.... later |
| 22:57.39 | thebigdog | slacker itimber |
| 23:01.11 | beandog | jsmith-away, unabstraction? |
| 23:01.54 | thebigdog | hehe that is wrapping mysql extension for just mysql |
| 23:03.08 | beandog | oh gosh. |
| 23:03.21 | beandog | I think pdo needs a wrapper. |
| 23:03.44 | thebigdog | yeah something like that |
| 23:03.56 | beandog | written in bash! |
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