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| 03:54.06 | wps | is it possible to "tail" a directory? |
| 03:54.39 | wps | something like a concurrent ls so you can see if something changes? |
| 04:04.04 | Utah_Dave2 | on which OS? |
| 04:07.57 | wps | CentOS |
| 04:09.23 | Utah_Dave2 | you could try this: watch -d ls -l |
| 04:10.33 | wps | that works |
| 04:10.35 | wps | thank you |
| 04:11.11 | Utah_Dave2 | cool |
| 04:15.25 | wps | man, if this software had a neck, I'd wring it |
| 04:17.04 | Utah_Dave2 | :) |
| 04:17.14 | Utah_Dave2 | I take it you didn't write the software |
| 04:17.16 | wps | everything works except the most important feature |
| 04:17.24 | wps | no, if I wrote it, it'd work :) |
| 04:19.18 | Utah_Dave2 | he he |
| 04:49.08 | Utah_Dave2 | night everyone |
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| 15:40.50 | itimber | morning guys |
| 15:41.03 | mgeary | already? |
| 15:41.12 | itimber | I'm about to post a link to an impersonator |
| 15:41.19 | itimber | George Bush..... |
| 15:41.33 | itimber | but it's got some language |
| 15:41.38 | itimber | but VERY funny |
| 15:41.39 | itimber | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZjpCK02s3A |
| 15:41.44 | itimber | you've been warned |
| 15:41.45 | itimber | LOL |
| 15:42.30 | itimber | so funny.... I had to share |
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| 15:50.20 | Trevyn | is there an IRC channel for webalizer support? |
| 15:50.38 | beandog | webalizer? |
| 15:50.44 | beandog | that sounds vaguely familiar |
| 15:50.46 | beandog | isn't that like really old |
| 15:51.08 | Trevyn | yeah, but still common |
| 15:51.33 | mgeary | what problem(s) are you having? |
| 15:52.02 | Trevyn | Country stats are not working |
| 15:52.19 | Trevyn | http://alaskaseafood.org/stats/usage_200810.html#TOPCTRYS |
| 15:52.27 | Trevyn | I have the two entries in the conf file |
| 15:52.37 | Trevyn | and I also have DNS lookups on in apache |
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| 15:52.53 | Trevyn | and when I run webalizer on the log file it doesnt update |
| 15:53.02 | Trevyn | So I am not sure if my changes are working or not. |
| 15:55.08 | mgeary | huh. dunno |
| 15:55.40 | mgeary | speaking of Alaska, though, i begrudgingly admit that Mrs. Palin held her own much better than i'd expected last night |
| 15:56.33 | itimber | she did great |
| 15:56.39 | Trevyn | yeah she did well. |
| 16:00.02 | mgeary | not saying i liked her. She makes my teeth hurt. |
| 16:02.54 | mgeary | ...but her recent interviews have been so disastrous, she surprised me at the debate |
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| 16:07.30 | mgeary | josephscott: ping |
| 16:07.40 | josephscott | mgeary: pong |
| 16:08.14 | mgeary | hey, someone just asked me if i could help add a "contact us" form on their wordpress site. Isn't that built-in somewhere? |
| 16:08.51 | wps | no |
| 16:08.59 | wps | but there are plenty of plugins already written that do that |
| 16:09.02 | mgeary | i'm sure |
| 16:09.17 | mgeary | i just would have thought something like that would be a "flip a checkbox to enable" kind of thing |
| 16:09.27 | mgeary | wps: can you recommend a decent one? |
| 16:09.42 | wps | no, haven't used one, sorry |
| 16:09.49 | mgeary | k |
| 16:09.50 | wps | but the WP plugin site is easy to browse |
| 16:10.03 | thomallen | cformII is good |
| 16:10.20 | thomallen | and there are a couple more depending on need |
| 16:10.33 | thomallen | but yeah check the plugin site |
| 16:10.52 | josephscott | mgeary: http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/grunion-contact-form/ is one |
| 16:11.05 | josephscott | that's based on the contact form code we use on wordpress.com |
| 16:11.12 | mgeary | great, thanks |
| 16:11.34 | josephscott | as to why it's not in the default, well, if we included everything in the default a WP install would be 1.8 TBs :-) |
| 16:11.45 | mgeary | heh |
| 16:11.51 | mgeary | no worries. i understand |
| 16:15.12 | mgeary | hahahahah: http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/10/3/43222/8057/718/618653 |
| 16:15.26 | beandog | mgeary, makes your teeth hurt? heh |
| 16:21.37 | carmony | good morning |
| 16:21.58 | mgeary | mornin' |
| 16:22.25 | mgeary | hey, OT-- does anyone here know of a way to share an itunes library across the internet? |
| 16:23.10 | carmony | bittorrent? ;) |
| 16:23.17 | carmony | but I don't think that is what you meant :p |
| 16:23.21 | mgeary | heh |
| 16:23.31 | mgeary | i'm just sick of trying to keep multiple iTunes libraries in synch |
| 16:24.01 | redroy_ | I use simplify with my iphone... |
| 16:24.14 | beandog | carmony, lol |
| 16:24.47 | mgeary | redroy_: but that still only works on your lan, no? |
| 16:25.42 | redroy_ | nope http://www.simplifymedia.com/ |
| 16:26.11 | redroy_ | I like it cause I can connect to my friends as well... who have a lot more music than me |
| 16:26.33 | mgeary | how do they do it? |
| 16:26.54 | mgeary | is it really coming from your source, or do they basically verify that you own a song and then stream it from their server? |
| 16:28.03 | redroy_ | Not sure really... I know one friend of mine has roughly 30k songs so if I don't connect to his library for a while it takes a few minutes to get to my phone... |
| 16:28.40 | mgeary | i would have thought you could simply forward a port or two |
| 16:28.42 | redroy_ | I've only used it on my phone... not sure how well it works with the computer.. I would imagine better |
| 16:29.05 | beandog | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2008/10/02/funny-pictures-in-law-kitty-does-not-approve/ |
| 16:30.04 | mgeary | redroy_: just found an article that says it will only stream your DRM-enabled, iTunes-purchased music. Is that still the case? The article's over a year old... |
| 16:30.58 | redroy_ | no, I know for a fact my friend's music is ripped |
| 16:33.46 | mgeary | cool, thanks |
| 16:33.48 | mgeary | i'll check it out |
| 16:34.10 | redroy_ | :) |
| 16:34.23 | redroy_ | Does anybody use any open source load testing tools? |
| 16:35.14 | mgeary | ab |
| 16:38.41 | synic | url plz |
| 16:39.08 | mgeary | it comes with apache |
| 16:39.15 | mgeary | it's probably already on your machine |
| 16:39.51 | synic | nice, didn't even know about that. |
| 16:40.19 | beandog | http://www.samsclub.com/shopping/navigate.do?catg=12119 |
| 16:40.29 | carmony | ugggg.... I *hate* it when people use css id's when a class is more appropriate |
| 16:40.42 | beandog | mgeary, ooh, cool |
| 16:40.53 | mgeary | ? |
| 16:43.19 | mindjuju1 | for those of you with nothing better to do on a friday than watch your servers backup - http://www.atom.com/spotlights/kung_fu_election/ |
| 16:44.32 | mgeary | ah, how would it be |
| 16:49.42 | synic | oops, I guess I abused the server a bit too much with ab. |
| 17:03.09 | beandog | ~evil synic |
| 17:23.46 | thebigdog | anyone know if mbp's will be going on sale anytime soon? |
| 17:25.51 | orsonj | ~8ball bigdog |
| 17:25.51 | jbot | Please ask again. |
| 17:26.23 | orsonj | ~8ball are mbp's going to be on sale anytime soon? |
| 17:26.24 | jbot | Unsure. |
| 17:26.42 | orsonj | even the mighty 8ball can't predict apple |
| 17:28.27 | mgeary | Expercom had some good deals on refurbs yesterday, iirc |
| 17:29.57 | mgeary | so, thebigdog, missing your Mac? |
| 17:34.41 | thebigdog | yes i am thinking of getting one or another laptop |
| 17:37.20 | mgeary | i need to watch that again. Awesome film |
| 17:38.41 | eggyknap | Anyone got good recommendations for where I can get an IDE 2.5" hard drive, fast and cheap? It doesn't need to be "good" (small, used is ok, functional is required) |
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| 18:48.14 | thebigdog | http://withleather.uproxx.com/?p=10158 |
| 18:48.19 | thebigdog | it is work safe |
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| 19:24.56 | Utah_Dave | nie |
| 19:25.00 | Utah_Dave | nice |
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| 20:03.53 | beandog | man |
| 20:03.59 | beandog | I need a dancing cupcake about right now |
| 20:06.41 | unum | uuuuuuuuuuuuuuh |
| 20:07.13 | unum | http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvIW7ZtwPww |
| 20:07.34 | beandog | exactly |
| 20:07.42 | unum | http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=OtP_PDQk50o |
| 20:07.44 | unum | I meant this |
| 20:07.50 | unum | the first one got deleted... |
| 20:09.07 | beandog | http://z.about.com/d/entertaining/1/0/m/C/dancingprincesses.jpg |
| 20:09.08 | beandog | thats scary |
| 20:11.41 | _psychic_ | nom nom nom |
| 20:13.36 | beandog | Im gonna go check the vending machine for cupcakes |
| 20:14.25 | SunSparc | These guys have really good cupcakes and other pastries -> http://flourgirlsdoughboys.com/ |
| 20:15.43 | wps | FG&DBs is by my house |
| 20:19.24 | beandog | bailout brownies |
| 20:19.27 | beandog | thats awesome |
| 20:22.28 | unum | SunSparc: if you use a nuke it would probably be close enough |
| 20:23.15 | SunSparc | lol |
| 20:23.19 | SunSparc | good point |
| 20:23.38 | SunSparc | "Nuclear launch detected..." |
| 20:24.05 | unum | SunSparc: just make sure you run when the laser guide deactivates |
| 20:24.12 | unum | that means the nuke is about to hit |
| 20:25.18 | SunSparc | I just hope there are no Protoss observers around |
| 20:38.13 | itimber | what do you guys really think about this $700 billion bailout?? |
| 20:38.37 | wps | big mistake |
| 20:40.14 | itimber | how so? |
| 20:41.27 | itimber | sounds like the Dow agrees with ya |
| 20:44.50 | itimber | I'm seriously curios about everyone's thoughts on the subject though |
| 20:45.00 | SunSparc | itimber: I think Dave Ramsey has a good idea. I personally don't think bailing out private companies falls within the bounds of the constitution. |
| 20:45.05 | itimber | do you see this as effecting the local tech community? |
| 20:45.13 | thebigdog | yes |
| 20:45.22 | itimber | I agree SunSparc |
| 20:45.38 | itimber | but they have |
| 20:45.46 | SunSparc | I think there will be residual effects, but I think whatever pain we may have to go through is necessary. |
| 20:45.57 | itimber | now we are a "Socialist" nation with a "Democratic" label |
| 20:45.58 | beandog | Im personally sick of all the handouts businesses get from the gov't |
| 20:46.04 | beandog | it's bad enough lobbying is even legal |
| 20:46.09 | itimber | and it seems like people don't know or care |
| 20:46.16 | SunSparc | exactly |
| 20:46.50 | itimber | and I'm not trying to stir a pot or speak off topic (PHP) |
| 20:46.54 | thebigdog | class Socialist implements Democratic |
| 20:47.08 | beandog | besides, the whole thing flies in the face of that whole "free market" thing capitalists are always screaming about |
| 20:47.24 | beandog | so, I dont get it. |
| 20:47.25 | itimber | so I'm tying my question to the industry and the cross-section of people represented in this room |
| 20:47.47 | beandog | I think, though, on a local level, it will hurt small businesses because it'll be harder to get some capital |
| 20:48.14 | beandog | we'll see interest rates for debt go up, most likely, as its about the only place they can recoup all their losses |
| 20:48.36 | beandog | so, people are gonna spend less |
| 20:48.40 | beandog | everythings just gonna slow down |
| 20:52.42 | SunSparc | beandog: I agree completely. In a free market it is much like nature: survival of the fittest. If a company is going down they should be left to die, unless some other private company want to buy them, merge them, or spot them. |
| 20:53.06 | SunSparc | If we break that process we risk breaking our free market. |
| 20:53.15 | SunSparc | This is just another example of entitlement. |
| 20:53.28 | SunSparc | "Oh, no worries, the government will bail us out." |
| 20:53.45 | SunSparc | Yeah, well we the people are the government and we don't see the benefit. |
| 20:54.16 | beandog | Im actually for *some* government intervention, since I believe free market leads to monopolies and corporate tyranny, so there should be some oversight |
| 20:54.36 | beandog | I just can't stand the fact that our gov't is for sale |
| 20:54.54 | mgeary | itimber: where were you yesterday? |
| 20:55.08 | itimber | probably just didn't log in |
| 20:55.14 | itimber | working hard nowdays |
| 20:55.20 | mgeary | i'm tired of explaining my perspective on the matter, but i think it was something that had to be done |
| 20:55.24 | itimber | really need a team of 4-5 guys..... |
| 20:55.38 | SunSparc | I am not so sure that a free market would lead completely to monopolies and corporate tyranny. In a well running free market, tyrannical companies would lose business. Or perhaps I am naive on the topic. |
| 20:55.43 | itimber | but I'm not scalable.... so they'd be bored, and I'd still be too busy |
| 20:56.41 | beandog | SunSparc, Well, lack of gov't oversight caused the exact problem we're having now |
| 20:56.45 | itimber | mgeary: I'll check the archives then..... didn't mean to revisit a topic just cause I was out |
| 20:56.51 | mgeary | no no |
| 20:56.58 | mgeary | the more discussion the better, i'm just spent |
| 20:57.15 | SunSparc | beandog: how so? |
| 20:58.41 | mgeary | SunSparc: by putting the wolves in charge of watching the sheep |
| 20:58.48 | beandog | SunSparc, I dont think Id do a good job explaining it well, but AFAIU, the lenders knew that the buyers for homes were high-risk, but they just figured that the value is in the asset itself (the house) so even if they couldnt afford it, it would still work out. So they kept the interest rates low and let all these purchases slide by that normally nobody would allow |
| 20:59.40 | beandog | SunSparc, but then the market resets, everyones mortgage rates shoot up, and instead of people paying, there is massive foreclosure, with a sudden influx of houses on the market and no buyers, banks have assets but no cash |
| 21:00.35 | SunSparc | Good time to buy. If you have cash. |
| 21:00.35 | SunSparc | Not a fun way to do it though. |
| 21:00.35 | SunSparc | Hmmm, I wonder how it would have gone down if we did not have government involved in business at all. |
| 21:01.03 | beandog | now see, w/o gov't oversight, wed have every company be just like walmart |
| 21:01.20 | beandog | No benefits for workers, abuse local laws, etc |
| 21:01.31 | beandog | Theyd just all grind the faces of the poor. |
| 21:02.09 | beandog | it'd be like having nobles and peasants, basically |
| 21:02.20 | beandog | well, kind of. |
| 21:02.49 | itimber | I can't find the archives on uphpu.org, anyone have a link? |
| 21:03.54 | beandog | someone correct me if Im wrong, btw, Im totally winging it |
| 21:04.43 | SunSparc | I can't correct you, I only have educated guesswork in my pocket. :) |
| 21:07.42 | carmony | and I have candy in my pocket :p |
| 21:08.20 | SunSparc | carmony: what kind? |
| 21:08.38 | carmony | starbursts :) |
| 21:08.50 | SunSparc | Mmmmmm |
| 21:10.53 | beandog | This is what I dont get |
| 21:11.00 | beandog | It seems like there was a lot of opposition to the plan |
| 21:11.07 | beandog | Why werent people rallying in the streets |
| 21:11.33 | beandog | Instead, I see a bunch of internet movements, which seem completely ineffective to me, because I doubt that 90% of our senators / congressmen even use the web. |
| 21:11.53 | itimber | I agree |
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| 21:12.30 | beandog | Ill bet PoeticIntensity has some great insight on it |
| 21:13.04 | itimber | why's that? he have an economics bkg? |
| 21:13.29 | SunSparc | No, he runs Linux |
| 21:13.33 | beandog | SunSparc, lol |
| 21:13.37 | _psychic_ | beandog: did you see the rally at Wall St. ? |
| 21:13.51 | beandog | _psychic_, no |
| 21:13.55 | beandog | was there one? thats cool |
| 21:14.13 | unum | I was going to check for that |
| 21:14.24 | _psychic_ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XreAnHG8xu4 |
| 21:14.29 | beandog | oh wait, I think I remember reading something about it actually |
| 21:14.43 | beandog | dude, thats what Im talkinga bout |
| 21:14.46 | _psychic_ | "you broke it, you bought it" :) |
| 21:14.48 | beandog | thats effective |
| 21:14.51 | _psychic_ | semi nsfw btw ;) |
| 21:15.00 | beandog | even more reason to click! |
| 21:15.19 | _psychic_ | well, the audio |
| 21:15.23 | beandog | how? |
| 21:15.25 | beandog | I didnt hear anything |
| 21:15.36 | _psychic_ | the bailout is bull**** |
| 21:15.45 | _psychic_ | is the first line of that chant |
| 21:15.47 | beandog | oh |
| 21:15.50 | beandog | I didnt hear that |
| 21:16.25 | SunSparc | Now that, is a rally. |
| 21:16.35 | SunSparc | good find _psychic_ |
| 21:16.38 | _psychic_ | house bill passed btw |
| 21:16.42 | beandog | oh man that was the best ever |
| 21:16.42 | _psychic_ | morons |
| 21:16.44 | SunSparc | :( |
| 21:16.50 | beandog | someone had a american flag with corporate logos for the stars |
| 21:17.05 | _psychic_ | you 3rd district uphpers have cannon to thank |
| 21:17.30 | mgeary | hey |
| 21:17.47 | SunSparc | You mean we |
| 21:17.49 | mgeary | i didn't vote for him. Though again, the "bailout" was necessary, imo |
| 21:17.49 | SunSparc | ;) |
| 21:18.01 | _psychic_ | mgeary: i disagree :) |
| 21:18.11 | mgeary | i know |
| 21:19.08 | _psychic_ | we're propping up a system that obviously doesn't work |
| 21:19.15 | _psychic_ | we're only stretching out the pain |
| 21:19.49 | beandog | works for me. |
| 21:19.51 | beandog | let my kids deal with it |
| 21:19.52 | beandog | :) |
| 21:20.12 | _psychic_ | planning on kicking the bucket in the next 10 years? |
| 21:20.24 | beandog | death by twinkie |
| 21:20.46 | _psychic_ | 90 year old lady shot herself this past week getting foreclosed on |
| 21:21.00 | _psychic_ | people aren't leaving out that option. |
| 21:21.16 | beandog | now thats sad |
| 21:22.01 | _psychic_ | there's a lot o fear out there |
| 21:23.31 | beandog | ah, what a mess. |
| 21:28.11 | beandog | now youve got me all depressed |
| 21:28.15 | beandog | I need to find some more dancing cupcakes |
| 21:29.24 | DexterTheDragon | we're going to need a lot of dancing cupcakes |
| 21:30.56 | beandog | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uQYo-7ozWA |
| 21:30.58 | beandog | LMFAO |
| 21:31.09 | beandog | "where men were men, and women were men, and that can get pretty old after a while" |
| 21:34.04 | beandog | oh man the animation is classic |
| 21:38.44 | beandog | that didnt quite do it for me |
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| 22:03.06 | Utah_Dave | regex question. |
| 22:03.21 | Utah_Dave | I want to find this "javascript:setAction('Maine')" including the parenthesis |
| 22:03.27 | Utah_Dave | and return Maine |
| 22:04.56 | Utah_Dave | I know I'm way off here |
| 22:05.02 | Utah_Dave | s/"javascript:setAction('[a-z]*')" |
| 22:09.33 | thebigdog | regex is for matching...why are you returning stuff |
| 22:10.46 | Utah_Dave | well, I'm trying to run sed to replace "javascript:setAction('Maine')" with "myurl.com/state=Maine" |
| 22:11.22 | Utah_Dave | I think I'm rushing through too many tutorials at once. |
| 22:11.42 | thebigdog | then you want to replace the entire match |
| 22:11.45 | Utah_Dave | With sed you can keep a match and use that in the replacement string |
| 22:11.58 | thebigdog | javascript:setAction('myurl.com/state=Maine') |
| 22:12.31 | Utah_Dave | close. I actually don't want the javascript:setAction stuff in there |
| 22:12.53 | Utah_Dave | There is a line like "javascript:setAction('Maine')" for each state |
| 22:13.00 | Utah_Dave | in this html file |
| 22:13.37 | Utah_Dave | So I want to replace each line with "myurl.com/state=STATE" or "myurl.com/state=Maine" in the case of the state of Maine |
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| 22:26.05 | mgeary_ | did i mention that i really hate GoDaddy's new site? |
| 22:28.20 | Utah_Dave | thebigdog: I've almost got it! |
| 22:29.04 | mgeary_ | correct me if i'm wrong, but an MX record should never go to a raw IP address, no? |
| 22:29.31 | fungus | right |
| 22:29.40 | fungus | MX records point to A records |
| 22:29.47 | fungus | Don't MX to a CNAME either |
| 22:29.50 | unum | ya some systems will not send the email if it does |
| 22:30.01 | unum | s/does/does point to an ip |
| 22:37.23 | thebigdog | mindjuju1, you around? |
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