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16:20.17thebigdogmorning all
16:22.47beandogmo
16:28.56beandogdonuts
16:30.03mgeary~donuts
16:30.17mgearyyou know, Winchell's was way better than Krispy Kreme
16:30.22mgearycake donuts++
16:30.57mgearywith icing and sprinkles
16:31.29wpsthe only way to determine if the user agent accepts cookies is to try setting one and then test the value, right?
16:31.51mgearyi believe you have to do the test after a page refresh, but i could be wrong
16:32.01wpsso that means that if you wanted to display a message applicable to their cookie status, you would never be able to on the initial page load, right?
16:32.13mgearyassuming i'm correct
16:33.09mgearyso, i've got a 500GB drive in an external enclosure that's less than a year old that won't mount anymore. Anyone want to place bets on whether the failure is the drive or the enclosure?
16:33.16mgearyi'm betting it's the enclosure....
16:34.30mindjujudepends, did you haul the enclosure around with you?
16:34.33mindjujurough it up a little
16:34.46mindjujudid it ever drop or get thrown in a backpack?
16:34.48mgearynope. it's been on a shelf the whole time
16:36.45beandogwhat drive manufacturer
16:36.49mgearyWD
16:37.11wpswow… content overload: http://www.omnificent.com/products/
16:37.19wpspeople need to learn that less is more
16:37.50beandog"Why Use Our Services? We are experienced."
16:38.02beandogexperience working with Windows NT
16:38.04beandogwoot
16:38.16wpsrecommended browsers: IE for Mac (which has been deprecated for three years)
16:38.52wpsand the last release as five years ago
16:39.22beandogmgeary, its probably still under warranty, you could RMA the drive if it died
16:39.26beandogWD makes it really simple
16:39.46mgearyi don't really care about the drive, i care about the ~130 ripped movies on it
16:40.11beandogwell, thats what you get for your pirating ways.
16:40.33wpsthey could be ripped from his own purchased collection
16:40.40mgeary~give beandog 3 kids and see how long HIS DVD collection survives
16:40.40jbotACTION gives 3 kids and see how long HIS DVD collection survives to beandog
16:40.44mgearybah
16:40.48beandoglol
16:40.51beandogoh man.
16:41.01beandogDon't worry, Ive got more than 2x that ripped.
16:41.21beandogmgeary, how do you know its dying, what kinda errors you getting, is it making noise?
16:41.35wpsI have 100, but ran out of HD space and my budget to buy a new HD got distracted by two new bikes
16:43.03beandogI should sell off my old ones
16:45.35wpsit's not that big of a deal though… I'd rather be outside riding than watching a movie
16:45.49beandogyah
16:45.57wpsI've bought a lot of movies, but I don't think I'll be buying many more
16:46.02beandogbesides, they stopped making good movies after Superman III
16:46.02wpsI've realized that I never watch them
16:46.25beandogwps, you ever tried netflix
16:46.39wpsno
16:47.03wpsI used to be a RedBox-er, until they stopped carrying anything worth watching
16:48.41beandogman, those things are everywhere too
16:49.02thebigdogi love netflix
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16:58.45mgearybeandog: the drive doesn't spin up at all
16:59.05mgearyjust got back from picking up a new SATA external enclosure
16:59.47mgearynow we'll see where the problem is. I also got a returnable 500GB SATA drive just in case
16:59.49beandogHmm
16:59.50mgeary~kk
16:59.51jboti heard kk is mgeary's favorite saying, or for thebigdog's benefit
17:00.02beandogmgeary, is it getting power okay?
17:00.09beandogwhat kinda enclosure do you have
17:00.24mgearyCavalry
17:00.54mgearyit's disassembled now, so i can't tell for sure.
17:01.12mgearythe enclosure light would go on...
17:01.17mgearyso it may indeed be the drive
17:01.46beandoghmm, theyre not getting great reviews
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17:03.06beandogfwiw
17:03.13beandogNewegg has 1TB SATA drives on sale for $109, $139
17:03.22beandogWestern Digital and Seagate
17:04.03mgearynot bad at all
17:04.28mgearyi just shelled out $77 for a Seagate 500 GB SATA
17:05.22beandogprices are finally dropping, thank goodness
17:05.29beandogIm curious how well they will sell t hough, 1 TB is a ton of space
17:06.05beandogFreak they are selling 1.5 TB drives now.  Only $189
17:08.39mgearywoot
17:08.42mgearydrive spins up in the new enclosure
17:08.48mgearyplugging in to see if it mounts
17:09.11mindjujui remember thinking the sam ething when 1G drives came out
17:09.20mindjujunow i'm up to 1.7T at home
17:09.53beandogmindjuju, all in one box?
17:10.13mindjuju1 computer, 4 drives
17:10.29beandogare you using LVM or RAID or what
17:10.32mindjujubut if 1T drives are at $100, i may buy several, one set for use, 1 for backup
17:10.33mgearybadda bing. we have life
17:10.48beandogmgeary, rawk, man, so it was the enclosure that went bad, not the hdd?
17:10.54mgearylooks like it
17:10.56mindjujuoh, nope, all separate
17:10.59beandogcool
17:11.10mindjujui use the different drives to segregate things
17:11.18mindjujumovies on one, music on the other, etc
17:11.58beandogoh ok
17:36.44wpspoll:
17:37.00wps/ space after double-slash for comments?
17:37.06wpsoops
17:37.10wps<PROTECTED>
17:37.20wps<PROTECTED>
17:37.21beandogyah
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17:37.29beandogspace
17:37.33wpsI agree
17:37.49wpsno space is harder to read
17:37.52mgearyspace
17:37.59mgearybut i like # more than //
17:38.02wpsmy boss is a no-space man
17:38.09beandogcomments need a <blink> attribute
17:38.11wpsI'm always adding spaces to his code :)
17:38.31wpssecond poll:
17:38.38wps<PROTECTED>
17:38.48wps<PROTECTED>
17:38.52mgearybah. too much maintenance to do all caps
17:38.57wpsI agree
17:38.57beandogNormal case
17:39.01wpsall caps is too hard to read
17:39.15wpsthird poll:
17:39.28wps$var='no space around equals'
17:39.34mgearyspace
17:39.36wps$var = 'space around equals'
17:39.40wpsI agree
17:39.42wpsmuch easier to read
17:39.44beandogspace
17:39.45mgearygotta let your code breath
17:39.47mgearybreathe
17:39.52wpsamen
17:39.56mgearythere's no penalty for whitespace
17:40.04mgearyfourth poll
17:40.13mgearyif ($something){
17:40.16mgearyif ($something)
17:40.17mgeary{
17:40.25wpsno space after if
17:40.26beandogif($foo) {
17:40.36wpscurly should be on same line as if
17:40.40mgearyno, braces should be on their own line
17:40.41mgearyimo
17:40.46mgearymuch more readable :)
17:40.53wpsI used to be an on-their-own line guy
17:41.20wpsand I agree that it's easier to read
17:41.20wpsI switched though so that my code was the same as the masses
17:41.20wpsmade it easier to read other people's code and easier to collaborate
17:41.24mgearybah. the masses also use Windows
17:41.25wpsfifth poll:
17:41.47wps<p class='single ticks'></p>
17:41.56wps<p class="double ticks"></p>
17:42.00DexterTheDragondouble
17:42.07wpsamen, amen, amen
17:42.07beandogeh, I switch between em both depending on t he situation.
17:42.08mgearyi'm ambivalent on that one. i've been known to use both
17:42.12beandogusually single quotes.
17:42.15wpsmy boss uses singles in his HTML and it drives me CRAZY
17:42.28beandogTheres nothing that drives me more nuts than html tags in caps
17:42.31DexterTheDragonstatements should be: if ( $foo ) {
17:42.45beandogDexterTheDragon, actually yah, thats the easiest way to read it.
17:42.46wpsthat's too much space for me
17:42.58wpsI like: if($foo) {
17:42.59beandogit makes it much easier to quickly see what the statement is
17:43.03oldsI like if($foo)
17:43.08mgearygotta have those braces on their own lines...
17:43.11oldsit's never been a problem
17:43.22wpsthis is rediculous though:
17:43.23DexterTheDragonI can settle for if ($foo) {
17:43.34DexterTheDragonI hate no space between the if
17:43.43wpsfor($i;$i>0;$i++)
17:43.51beandogyah, thats hard to read.
17:43.57wpsshould be: for($i; $i > 0; $i++)
17:44.06DexterTheDragonand a space after the for
17:44.13wpsmy bosses spacebar must be broken
17:45.28wpshe also doesn't wrap at 80 chars
17:45.36wpsso I have to scroll left and right to read lines of code
17:45.42wps:x
17:46.04mgearylines of code should *rarely* require more than 80 chars
17:46.10wpsyup
17:49.15oldswps: I don't do for loops that way though
17:49.30oldsfor($i=0; $i>0; $i++){
17:52.32wpssorry… typo
17:53.39mindjuju~fungus++
17:54.48wpslet that breath, mindjuju!
17:54.54wps~ f u n g u s + +
17:55.01beandogheh
17:55.02mgeary~karma fungus
17:55.02jbotfungus has karma of 10
17:55.06wpswow
17:55.08beandog~karma
17:55.08jbotbeandog has karma of 1
17:55.10mgeary~boggle fungus
17:55.11jbotACTION stares in flabbergasted astonishment at fungus
17:55.11beandog:C
17:55.20beandogall those years, wasted.
17:56.20mgeary~berate mindjuju for not letting others benefit from questions he gets answered
18:00.09fungus~karma mindjuju
18:00.10jbotmindjuju has karma of 7
18:00.17fungus~beandog++
18:00.23beandog\o/
18:00.48fungus~beandog++
18:00.51fungus:)
18:01.03mindjujubeandog, did you decide if your coming tonight then?
18:01.12beandogmindjuju, I decided last week, man
18:01.21beandogI wouldnt miss this for all the blueberry strudel in Australia
18:01.47mindjujui thought you did, but then thought i saw somehting the other day saying perhaps no
18:01.50mgearyyou know, Australia has excellent pastries
18:01.54mindjujuor maybe itwas that you were asking about the recoridng
18:02.20beandogoh,  yah, I wanna get it recorded, I need ideas for my mysql vs postgres paper
18:04.06fungusauthentication setup was a lot more complicated than mysql
18:05.31beandogyah it is a bit tricky setting up
18:06.13mindjujujust an FYI - 8.5 hrs utnil Applebees afterhrs party
18:10.23beandogwhat the freaking crap
18:10.26beandoghttp://gadgets.boingboing.net/2008/09/18/the-shuttled10-a-des.html
18:12.59fungusWhy would anyone use that?
18:13.26fungusahh, file server...
18:13.29beandogTheres nothing like having a computer that looks like a boombox from the 80s, but can now run Vista!
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18:19.10mindjujuk, so i'm running a server with 1 IP and several sites on virtualhost
18:19.42mindjujui just installed cgiirc, have modded the conf, but now how do I associate it with apache?
18:20.57mindjujuk, never mind, think i found the approp page of info
18:24.43mindjujuisn't there a bash command that is whereami that tells where apt-get installed something?
18:25.35beandoglike which?
18:25.42beandogor you mean displays what the contents of the installed package is
18:26.29mindjujuwell, i apt-get install cgiirc , and it installed, and I did the conf and to finish i just have to move the web files where i want them
18:26.35mindjujuwhich leads me to my problem
18:26.38mindjujuwhere'd they go?
18:26.56mindjujudont' appear to be in /etc/var/cgiirc
18:36.27fungusMost web apps that you install via apt-get are put in /usr/share/<appname>
18:36.59fungusoften you can just add an "Alias /<appname> /usr/share/<appname>" to your apache config
18:40.54fungusNearly always there will be setup details in /usr/share/doc/<appname>/README.Debian
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19:31.17thebigdogbeandog, i would get that little thing stacked with drives and use it for some mythtv
19:31.24thebigdogthat would be killer
19:31.34beandogwhat thing?
19:32.43thebigdogthe shuttled10
19:32.51beandogoh, right
19:32.51beandogyah
19:33.03thebigdogmindjuju, you crack me up
19:33.23thebigdog11 hours and counting
19:34.33crountil what?
19:34.51thebigdogthe after hours party
19:34.59croaah
19:35.02beandogI'm still trying to find a good home storage solution
19:35.13thebigdoghe makes it sound like the party will be better than the meeting
19:35.33thebigdogcro, you live in layton?
19:35.39croyes
19:35.43thebigdognice
19:35.46thebigdogi live there too
19:35.51cro'cept for the jets :-)
19:36.14thebigdogyeah but for me growing up @ el toro im use to it
19:36.21fungushttp://www.drobo.com/Products/drobo.html
19:36.38fungusThe Drobo looks really cool for home storage
19:37.07crofungus: IO speed is poor though, isn't it?  And I've read some horror stories on the 'net
19:37.13croabout lost data
19:37.27beandog16 TB
19:37.29beandogthats just what I need
19:37.31mgearyfungus: yeah, i've looked at that
19:37.51fungusIt just costs quite a bit.
19:37.53mgearyjust stick drives in and it automatically makes things work
19:37.59beandogyou pay $499 just for the box?
19:38.00beandogfreak.
19:38.04fungusNo nasty raid migration
19:38.24funguscro: haven't heard any issues with it.
19:38.59thebigdogbeandog, what are your requirements?
19:39.08mindjujusup thebigdog
19:39.12beandogthebigdog, I gotta do the math, but last I checked I need around 12 TB
19:39.26thebigdogbeandog, that will be expensive
19:39.26mindjujuwow, 12T, i've got nearly 2
19:39.54beandogthebigdog, yah, but its worth it
19:40.01mindjujubeandog needs a 1P system
19:40.03beandogRight now Im just cramming harddrives into a desktop.
19:40.31beandogIve only got 3 750GB + 1 500GB so far
19:40.43thebigdogbeandog, you need raid and server too?
19:40.45beandoger, something like that.
19:40.54beandogthebigdog, no, nothing fancy, just storage.
19:41.29beandogUSB drives seem like an idea that would work, but I need everything to be on the same directory.  So now I'm just using LVM
19:41.34mindjuju750G and 500G, isn't that 1.5T?
19:41.47mindjujuerr, i mean 1.2
19:41.56beandogyah
19:42.04DexterTheDragonI would like something with raid, mass space, running linux that I can keep in my basement
19:42.07thebigdog12tb you can get a dell solution
19:42.20mgearyyou know, with the economy doing what it's doing, real estate seems to grow ever more appealing as an investment vehicle
19:42.33beandogI totaly said that wrong, I think Ive only got about 2 TB right now... not sure what drives.
19:42.48beandogSimplest solution seems to be to just get two desktops with 6x1TB drives in each
19:42.59beandogbut, I dunno
19:43.55thebigdog12tb though is alot
19:44.00thebigdogi usually break it in 2
19:44.34beandogyah
19:44.37beandogI got so many freaking DVDs
19:44.39beandogwanna rip em all
19:44.50thebigdogbeandog, i use this - http://www.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/pvaul_md1000?c=us&cs=555&l=en&s=biz
19:45.11thebigdogthose DAs are nice
19:45.34thebigdoghook them up to server with centos and you are up and running
19:45.34beandognice
19:45.41DexterTheDragonthebigdog: where do you keep that?
19:45.42beandogI'm sure work wouldnt notice if I rolled a rackmount out the door
19:45.51thebigdogDexterTheDragon, i have 3 of them
19:45.54thebigdogand 4 servers
19:45.56thebigdogxmission
19:46.06thebigdogbeandog, true
19:46.11fungushttp://store.iomega.com/section?secid=76796 isn't big enough for you, but is much cheaper than a drobo
19:46.13mindjujui have a rack in my basement
19:46.32DexterTheDragonmindjuju: where'd you get the rack?
19:46.55beandogfungus, freak these are all spendy
19:46.56beandog:T
19:46.59mindjujufrom here, leftovers
19:47.06mgearyheh
19:47.06thebigdogbeandog, but it depends on what you need really...that is enterprise stuff i linked
19:47.15mgeary^^
19:47.18mindjujubut there was a place on geneva road in Orem that had 3 for sale
19:47.22mindjujubut that was months ago
19:47.23fungusthe iomega options *include* drives
19:47.25mgearynow that's an interesting combination of singers
19:47.35thebigdogvery interesting
19:47.49DexterTheDragonanyone have experiance with linux software raid?
19:47.59beandogthebigdog, yah
19:48.17beandogfungus, yah but even still, thats $450 per TB
19:48.42fungusbut it's expandable if you swap out the drives yourself.
19:48.49DexterTheDragonI'm wondering what the points are of software vs hardware raid
19:49.08fungusYou're not gonna get a whole NAS for the same price as the bare drives.
19:49.15fungusat least not a good one.
19:49.33beandogoh, well I dont necessarily need an NAS
19:50.02fungusDexterTheDragon: If you need really fast throughput, go hardware.  If you only need redundancy software is great.
19:50.02beandogmaybe I do, I dunno.
19:50.51DexterTheDragonit would be for a home server. So I'm thinking software would do ok
19:51.02DexterTheDragonthen I don't have the added cost of hardware
19:51.10fungusYeah, software is the way to go for home servers
19:52.26beandogI should just get one of those cases that can hold 12 drives
19:52.38beandogThen let it heat my apartment in winter
19:52.59DexterTheDragonmy computers work great as heaters
19:55.55fungusYeah, but summers are a killer
19:56.15DexterTheDragonnah its in the basement
19:56.23DexterTheDragonsummers are just warm then
19:56.43fungusThat's what I used to think until I put some servers down there.
19:57.04croyeah, the insulation works both ways, huh? Traps the heat in...
20:01.14thebigdogDexterTheDragon, even lvm is good for home stuff
20:02.00croYes, I use it too
20:02.14crohaven't ever needed to expand a volume yet though
20:03.02wpsanyone know of anyone online that is in another country?
20:03.47beandogyah
20:04.06wpswould they be willing to load a page for me and send me the output?
20:04.06beandogMy online girlfriend is from Sweden.
20:04.12beandogwhat page
20:04.17wpshttp://www.staging.omniture.com/geo_test.html
20:04.48beandogsec
20:04.50wpsthanks
20:06.55beandoghttp://rafb.net/p/F635Xl53.html
20:07.32wpsand that's from Sweden?
20:07.41beandogno
20:07.52beandogswitzerland, I think
20:07.57wpsah… SWITZERLAND
20:07.59wpsexcellent
20:08.02wpsit's working
20:08.03wpsthank you
20:08.12mgearybsh
20:08.17wpsbsh?
20:08.24mgeary~lart beandog for not knowing where his girlfriend lives
20:08.24jbotbeats beandog into protomatter with the andromeda galaxy for not knowing where his girlfriend lives
20:08.24wpsbuy some ham?
20:08.30mgearybsh = psh + bah
20:08.40beandogheh
20:08.44wpsyeah… the relationship is deep
20:08.47beandogsilly kids, you believed me when I said I had a g/f
20:08.56wps:)
20:09.05wpshe just ssh'd into a swiss server
20:09.11wpsand use curl to grab it
20:10.24mgearyno way. you can do that?
20:10.30beandogThe Swiss are all about free love and open servers
20:10.41mgearyno, that's back to Sweden
20:10.45mgearyget your cultures right
20:10.53beandogeurofail.
20:10.58wpsHA HAHA
20:22.39beandoghttp://www.seriouseats.com/2008/09/how-to-make-a-twinkie-tunnel-bundt-cake.html
20:22.47beandogmy sister sent me that and told me she found my wedding cake
20:23.13_psychic_it's probably the last cake you'll ever eat.
20:24.00beandogheh
20:31.23*** join/#uphpu CGI314 (n=4c08de82@76.8.222.145)
20:31.52CGI314~lart macnewbold
20:31.52jbotexecutes killall -TERM macnewbold
20:32.01CGI314k, that seems to work
20:32.06CGI314~lart beandog
20:32.06jbotresizes beandog's terminal to 40x24
20:33.45beandoganother drive-by lart
20:34.21mindjujuwho was that masked larter?
20:37.38mindjujuugh, it's articles like this that kill me - http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080918/ap_on_re_us/ike_the_missing
20:38.28mindjujufirst paragraph, death toll surprisingly low??? compared to what?  
20:38.58mindjujuhad they taken a moment to examine hurricane alicia in wikiedia, they'd have seen the death toll from that one, which was stronger when it plowed into Houston was.....
20:39.13mindjuju21 people
20:41.17fungusHrm... Bill Good Marketing.  I wonder who that could be?
20:41.46DexterTheDragon~hack 76.8.222.145
20:41.47jbotACTION teaches 76.8.222.145 nethack so that 76.8.222.145 will play until 6 AM
20:42.21wpsgood work, fungus
20:44.03fungusactually I was wrong.  That IP is the CGI server.
20:44.19wpsCGI server?
20:44.22fungusThe perpetrator's address is 4c08de82
20:44.33fungusWhich translates to 76.8.222.130
20:44.53fungusWhich is still mindjuju
20:44.59*** join/#uphpu CGI525 (n=4c08de82@76.8.222.145)
20:45.28fungusCGI525 = mindjuju
20:45.39CGI525run away!
20:46.14mindjujuwha??? did i miss something?
20:46.18fungus~hack 76.8.222.130
20:46.19jbotACTION teaches 76.8.222.130 nethack so that 76.8.222.130 will play until 6 AM
20:46.21DexterTheDragon~promote detective fungus
20:47.18fungusHrm.  that IP is a SonicWALL firewall
20:47.31mindjujuis that good or bad?
20:47.51DexterTheDragonits about to be bad for whoever is behind it
20:48.03wps:)
20:48.05DexterTheDragonfungus will be through in 48 senonds
20:48.18fungusNot sure.  It might be a good idea to turn of the management on the public interface.
20:48.22DexterTheDragons/senonds/seconds/
20:48.57DexterTheDragonw00t public interface
20:49.42fungus~google sonicwall default password
20:56.10mindjujuthat's not the one i manage
20:56.18mindjujuthat's the other guy that works here
20:56.47fungusYou should probably mention it to him.
20:57.05mindjujuyup, just sent him an email
21:02.00DexterTheDragonDear other guy, The peps in irc hacked your firewall. signed, mindjuju
21:03.05unumI couldn't convince my younger brother to turn off the public administrative interface to his router years ago
21:03.20unumhe was convinced as long as he didn't upset anyone, no one would hack him
21:03.33DexterTheDragonwhats his ip
21:03.38DexterTheDragonwe'll take care of him
21:03.44fungusIt can be convenient if you are out, and need to make some changes.  But often the risk is too great.
21:03.56DexterTheDragonvpn
21:04.16unumhe's with comcast now, I think they set their routers up alread protected
21:04.22unumI guess they can get in....
21:04.32fungusThe problem with that idea about not upsetting people, is that most hack attempts now are automated, and trojans all over the world do it to everyone.
21:05.02fungusMaybe that idea was true a decade or more ago.
21:05.09fungusbut definitely not now
21:06.47unumthat's what I kept trying to tell him
21:07.04unumof course the it manager here isn't much better
21:07.15unumand we actually have a reason to be targeted
21:41.17orsonjUek1aqife
21:42.00unumoh ya
21:42.00unumyour mom
21:42.00unumoops
21:42.00unumI did that once
21:42.13mindjujupoor orsonj
21:42.13unumit was a new password to....
21:42.20mindjujuhate it whenthat happens
21:42.29unumfortunately it wasn't a very good or important one
21:42.31orsonjfortunantly I don't use the same password everywhere
21:55.04orsonjhttp://www.snopes.com/photos/animals/dolphinrings.asp
21:55.07orsonjpretty cool
21:56.21mindjujulikes like a psychic blast
21:56.30mindjujuglad i'm not swimming with the dolphins
21:57.34mindjujunever was a big fan of love boat
22:01.50thebigdogor chavo
22:02.14thebigdoghttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Chavo
22:03.47mindjujuglad you sent the clarification, thought you meant this guy - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Chapul%C3%ADn_Colorado
22:04.45thebigdogwhat is funny is that el chavo is from like the 70s
22:04.59thebigdogin argentina they still watch it all the time
22:05.00mindjujui remmeber seeing it
22:13.20*** join/#uphpu Utah_Dave (n=David_Bo@75.145.58.9)
22:13.20*** mode/#UPHPU [+o Utah_Dave] by ChanServ
22:20.22mindjujugood ole Utah_Dave, you coming tonight?
22:44.50Utah_Davemindjuju: unfortunately, no  :(
22:45.07Utah_DaveMy wife is taking a sewing class and I promised her I'd watch teh baby
22:47.13DexterTheDragonbring teh baby
22:52.26PoeticIntensityheh.....
22:52.37PoeticIntensitygot the wife's official seal of approval about an hour ago.
22:53.10PoeticIntensityand from about forever ago, DexterTheDragon, I've got a server here that uses mdadm to RAID two SATA drives, and it works just great.
22:53.29PoeticIntensityI'm also using it to stripe two drives in my workstation computer for some seriously sweet speed. :)
22:54.09DexterTheDragonPoeticIntensity: cool
22:54.28PoeticIntensityyeah... it's worked so far (for about 9 months) with no problems at all.
22:54.42DexterTheDragonI just need to get all the hardware to do that
22:54.52PoeticIntensityactually.... man... my math is ... horrible.
22:55.03PoeticIntensityit's been up now for about 15 months.
22:56.28PoeticIntensityDexterTheDragon, all ya need is Linux and two hard drives.
22:56.41PoeticIntensity(preferably a computer upon which to install Linux, too)
22:57.31DexterTheDragonI'd prefer to have atleast 4 drives for it
22:59.38PoeticIntensityall I've ever done is RAID 1 and  RAID 0...
22:59.44PoeticIntensity(with software)
23:08.07funguswow, a Drobo with 4TB is only $1k
23:20.57mgearythat actually isn't bad, considering that a FW/USB 1TB drive from Costco is $200
23:21.05mgeary(WD)
23:21.35fungusAnd that doesn't have the automatic raid stuff.
23:23.17mindjuju4t drobo is 1k?
23:23.24mindjujuthat's freakin cool!
23:23.48fungushttp://www.drobostore.com/storefront/part/technotes.do?skuNo=2198668
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