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| 14:40.22 | mindjuju | utah_dave, you coming to this month's UPHPU meet on pgSQL? |
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| 15:32.45 | wps | anyone using FF 2 that can test a page for me? |
| 15:33.01 | DexterTheDragon | I am |
| 15:34.03 | wps | http://omniture.com |
| 15:34.10 | wps | let me know if it looks like this screenshot: http://screencast.com/t/KdckZpq8F8 |
| 15:34.37 | wps | (with a big white gap above the image on the left and the search box over the green bar instead of up in the upper-right) |
| 15:35.22 | DexterTheDragon | yes for the search box |
| 15:35.22 | mindjuju | not for me it doesn't |
| 15:35.35 | wps | crud |
| 15:35.39 | wps | it looks like the screenshot for you? |
| 15:35.43 | mindjuju | left image flush for me, search is where it should be |
| 15:35.51 | wps | mindjuju, you on FF 2 or 3? |
| 15:35.59 | DexterTheDragon | I didn't get a pic of that waiter dude.... |
| 15:36.09 | wps | yeah, the ads rotate |
| 15:36.12 | mindjuju | oh my bad, sorry, ff3 |
| 15:36.19 | wps | ~wedgie, mindjuju |
| 15:36.31 | wps | jbot, wake up |
| 15:36.32 | jbot | ACTION throws a barrel-full of ice water on up and shouts "GOOD MORNING!!!!" |
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| 16:25.49 | itimber | sup my brotha's |
| 16:27.08 | mindjuju | not much, u |
| 16:28.19 | itimber | getting the week started right |
| 16:28.26 | itimber | nocking out little stuff |
| 16:28.41 | itimber | making priority lists |
| 16:29.18 | itimber | how was your weekend, mindjuju |
| 16:29.58 | mindjuju | i got to sleep in until 8a on Saturday |
| 16:30.00 | mindjuju | so that was nice |
| 16:50.39 | PoeticIntensity | goooood times.. :) |
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| 17:04.38 | mgeary | bah |
| 17:05.24 | mgeary | so, i've got a user who was trying to log in to the main user portal screen with her admin login. She was supposed to be hitting a different url for the admin login... |
| 17:06.19 | mgeary | and when i gently show her the error, this is her response: |
| 17:06.31 | mgeary | "My husband says my true calling is to be a tech-tester because if there's a strange glitch to be found, I'm the one to find it!" |
| 17:06.42 | mgeary | um, i'm sorry, this wasn't a "strange glitch". This was you being a bonehead |
| 17:07.00 | mgeary | if my testers were like that, i'd throw them off a cliff |
| 17:09.25 | PoeticIntensity | LOL |
| 17:09.46 | PoeticIntensity | I can see mgeary gently letting her know that she is a bonehead.... |
| 17:20.04 | Utah_Dave | mgeary: we have a guy here that we always use for testing. He finds EVERY conceivable problem |
| 17:21.29 | mgeary | that's awesome |
| 17:21.32 | mgeary | usually ;) |
| 17:22.37 | unum | I generally find I can't get any one to test until I make it "production" |
| 17:23.00 | mgeary | heh. those testers are called "clients" |
| 17:23.25 | PoeticIntensity | LOL |
| 17:23.30 | PoeticIntensity | same here, Utah_Dave... |
| 17:23.42 | PoeticIntensity | we have a woman here who has the same knack... |
| 17:23.53 | PoeticIntensity | bugs just seem to gravitate toward her. |
| 17:27.12 | unum | mgeary: I'm in house so they are called "users" |
| 17:37.45 | Utah_Dave | He has this recurring problem. Phone call: "I don't know what happened. All of a sudden, my computer can't open up PDF files!" |
| 17:38.04 | mgeary | does he say, "My Adobe is broken" ? |
| 17:38.05 | Utah_Dave | So I go over there and he's trying to open up PDF files in WordPerfect. |
| 17:38.50 | Utah_Dave | When I tell him that he can't open up PDF files with WordPerfect he gets mad and asks why I changed that. He ALWAYS opens PDF files in WordPerfect |
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| 18:09.37 | itimber | anyone used BakeSale?? |
| 18:09.51 | mgeary | mmmm. Bake Sales |
| 18:29.37 | mgeary | so, did y'all see how *Karl Rove* has come out saying that the McCain ads are going too far in their truth distortions? |
| 18:29.51 | mgeary | i mean, jeeze, when Karl Rove thinks you've crossed the line.... |
| 18:37.53 | PoeticIntensity | heh... good times, mindjuju |
| 18:38.22 | mindjuju | :) |
| 18:38.31 | mindjuju | think your mustang could handle it? |
| 18:46.13 | dataw0lf | mgeary: no kidding? They're essentially using Rovian tactics. |
| 18:55.45 | mindjuju | i'm just curious here, but i've only seen negative political comments from ya mgeary on McCain, i'm wondering if that means you're 100% in agreement with Obama or if you're overlooking things / not equally reporting on them |
| 18:56.58 | mgeary | mindjuju: FactCheck.org is my guide. I don't bother complaining about the low noise of dishonesty that appears common in all campaigns. I only try to chirp when something seems to spike |
| 18:57.17 | mgeary | and when Karl Rove says other republicans are going too far, well, that's a spike |
| 18:57.35 | mindjuju | fair enough, just wondering |
| 18:57.55 | mindjuju | so like when obama signed fisa, you would have commented negatively on that |
| 18:58.02 | mgeary | i did |
| 18:58.05 | mgeary | check the archives |
| 18:58.08 | mgeary | ;) |
| 18:58.17 | mindjuju | hey, no worries, i believe ya |
| 18:58.21 | mindjuju | i must have missed it |
| 18:58.26 | mindjuju | :) |
| 18:58.30 | mindjuju | we're all good |
| 18:58.35 | mgeary | i did like most of what Obama said in his Educations speech. not everything, but most |
| 18:58.41 | mgeary | s/Educations/Education/ |
| 19:01.00 | mgeary | FactCheck.org++ |
| 19:02.13 | unum | it was interesting reading lessig defense of those who voted for fisa |
| 19:02.44 | mgeary | it *does* appear that FactCheck has vastly more items on the McCain campaign than the Obama campaign... |
| 19:03.06 | unum | snopes has a lot more on the obama campaign |
| 19:03.19 | mgeary | snopes?? |
| 19:03.50 | unum | snopes.com |
| 19:03.52 | mgeary | well yeah |
| 19:04.03 | mgeary | i just never connected them with political fact-checking |
| 19:04.15 | unum | they cover the major email rumors |
| 19:04.26 | unum | which of course are mostly false |
| 19:04.48 | unum | I really like taunanbaum's site |
| 19:04.56 | unum | I read it every day |
| 19:06.44 | mgeary | it appears that of the 12 articles currently on the home page of factCheck, only one of them is aimed at the Obama camp |
| 19:08.24 | mgeary | unum: got a link? |
| 19:09.21 | unum | http://electoral-vote.com |
| 19:10.40 | dataw0lf | http://fivethirtyeight.com is better. |
| 19:15.31 | wps | here's an interesting one: http://everymomentnow.com/ |
| 19:17.31 | dataw0lf | I think polls are going to be hugely inaccurate for the general election this year. |
| 19:19.35 | unum | stupid young voters, messing us all up |
| 19:19.49 | unum | on so many levels |
| 19:20.03 | wps | I wish they would get rid of the electoral college |
| 19:20.05 | wps | we don't need it anymore |
| 19:20.34 | wps | it made sense back when we travelled by horseback, but we can tally the votes in a day with computers now |
| 19:20.40 | mgeary | hahaha |
| 19:20.42 | mgeary | hahahahahahahaha |
| 19:20.45 | mgeary | yes. yes, indeed we can |
| 19:20.51 | mgeary | just ask Diebold |
| 19:20.59 | dataw0lf | >_< |
| 19:21.10 | dataw0lf | too bad we didn't do away with the Electoral College in 99. |
| 19:21.20 | dataw0lf | the world would be such a better place... |
| 19:21.34 | _psychic_ | wonder when the current party system will break down |
| 19:21.42 | mgeary | oh, come now, dataw0lf. You didn't enjoy your time in Iraq? |
| 19:21.44 | unum | a key part of the electoral college is giving smaller states(like Utah) more of a vote |
| 19:22.08 | unum | of course states like wyoming and alaska get their votes tripled |
| 19:22.32 | wps | I just think all the people should vote and the majority should win |
| 19:23.22 | unum | the federal governments regulation of who can and can't vote also makes the electoral college less significant |
| 19:23.22 | DexterTheDragon | what does the size of the state matter if its people who are voting |
| 19:23.31 | mgeary | well, i'm not so sure about that, wps |
| 19:23.54 | unum | DexterTheDragon: by size I mean the number of people. It was set up this way so the states with larger populations would have a harder time "bullying" the smaller states |
| 19:24.08 | unum | I'm not saying it's still relevant, just giving historical context |
| 19:24.14 | DexterTheDragon | yeah |
| 19:24.21 | dataw0lf | mgeary: Well, would 9/11 have happened? |
| 19:24.33 | dataw0lf | Likely, but I doubt if Gore would've ignored Berger like the Bush Administration did. |
| 19:24.46 | dataw0lf | "the Clinton administration was obsessed with terrorism!" indeed. |
| 19:25.04 | mgeary | well, connecting 9/11 with Iraq is where the first logic flaw occurs... |
| 19:26.38 | dataw0lf | I'm just talking the complete lapse of briefings between the Bush administration taking office and 9/11. Specifically, ignoring Burger and Clarke when they were all like 'AL-QAEDA! AL-QAEDA!" in January of 01. the decision to go into Iraq is a whole other can of worms, of course. |
| 19:27.54 | dataw0lf | Clarke had a plan to put boots into Afghanistan and kill bin Laden in April of 01. They, of course, ignored that one too. |
| 19:28.52 | dataw0lf | then, of course, ignoring Kenneth Williams report about the middle easterners training at the flight school in Arizona in July of 01. |
| 19:32.32 | dataw0lf | and I'm not saying Gore is any better. I just don't think the whole partisan rancor that the Bush administration directed at Clarke, Tenet, et. al would've happened, and 9/11 may have been averted. |
| 19:33.53 | Utah_Dave | mindjuju: did you see this? http://gizmodo.com/5049421/hilarious-computer-weather-error-shows-why-houston-is-the-worst-place-on-earth |
| 19:34.08 | mindjuju | :) |
| 19:35.08 | mindjuju | that's well below K |
| 19:35.19 | mindjuju | 0K i mean |
| 19:37.42 | Utah_Dave | :) |
| 19:57.31 | unum | anyway right now I'm glad I don't work for our client |
| 19:59.31 | mindjuju | unum, who is your client |
| 20:05.30 | unum | mindjuju: a polling company |
| 20:05.48 | unum | actualy various surveying companies are our client |
| 20:06.00 | unum | but we have one tha mostly does political surveys |
| 20:06.20 | unum | as noted earlier it's a tough year to do surveying right |
| 20:06.50 | unum | and if they do it wrong their clients lose. which doesn't really upset me that much... |
| 20:12.53 | unum | so did the founders of our company and the founders of our main clients.... |
| 20:13.19 | unum | pretty much everyone in the industry did once I think |
| 20:16.21 | mgeary | awful job |
| 20:20.01 | unum | ya I'm glad I'm not on the phones |
| 20:20.07 | unum | we treat those people like crap |
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| 20:40.15 | mgeary | ;) |
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| 20:52.09 | unum | mgeary: you'd be doing the world a favor, but really you should get our main client |
| 20:52.30 | unum | they work for the riaa, walmart, mccain, and the rnc |
| 20:53.55 | mgeary | wow. that's like a whos-who of my favorite entities |
| 20:54.46 | unum | mgeary: ya isn't it great. |
| 20:55.47 | unum | I refused to take a job with my older brother(defense contractor) so instead I go to work keeping the people in office who start the wars |
| 20:57.30 | mgeary | heh |
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| 21:36.57 | wps | I had a Japanese intern once; I asked him to get some supplies and he never came back. In the end I went to look for him and he jumped out waving his arms and shouted "SUPPLIES!" |
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| 23:29.17 | itimber | I'm out.... later guys |