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| 00:45.29 | Utah_Dave | anyone try out Google Chrome yet? I just installed it |
| 01:06.39 | bradym | i have, i like it so far |
| 01:13.30 | Utah_Dave | Yeah, me too |
| 01:13.43 | Utah_Dave | I've been using it for the last 30 minutes or so. It's nice |
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| 01:14.02 | Utah_Dave | I miss adblock plus, though |
| 01:20.40 | DexterTheDragon | Utah_Dave: bradym: what features do you like? |
| 01:25.17 | bradym | mostly the speed |
| 01:26.01 | bradym | i've never seen gmail load so fast |
| 01:26.33 | DexterTheDragon | meh. |
| 01:27.29 | Utah_Dave | DexterTheDragon: it's fast. It frees up a lot of screen space. |
| 01:27.37 | Utah_Dave | It's uncluttered |
| 01:27.50 | Utah_Dave | I'm not giving up Firefox, but it's pretty good for a first release |
| 01:28.14 | DexterTheDragon | well its mostly webkit and firefox code |
| 01:28.24 | DexterTheDragon | so I would think they could have a decent release |
| 01:29.35 | DexterTheDragon | it is interesting they built their own JS engine for it |
| 01:29.50 | DexterTheDragon | but google probably knows everything there is to know about JS |
| 01:30.01 | Utah_Dave | so far it's really fast. Gmail is great |
| 01:30.19 | Utah_Dave | I created an "application window" or whatever they call it for gmail and google calendar |
| 01:30.25 | Utah_Dave | it frees up even more screenspace |
| 01:31.08 | DexterTheDragon | I gave up on google "applications" a long time ago |
| 01:31.17 | DexterTheDragon | and there's nothing for linux yet so....... |
| 01:32.28 | bradym | i do like the task manager.. ability to see how much memory the different tabs are using and ability to kill one and leave the rest of the browser running is very nice |
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| 01:34.53 | Utah_Dave | yeah |
| 01:36.45 | bradym | not a fan of the fact that it uses the IE proxy settings though |
| 01:40.31 | Utah_Dave | well, later everyone |
| 01:40.34 | Utah_Dave | I'm heading home |
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| 15:51.32 | mindjuju | ~rlart |
| 15:51.32 | jbot | rm -rf's cycokilr |
| 15:52.44 | mgeary | heh. on Delta's site they have this: "Advisory: Gustav and Hannah may impact travel". Like there's two cranky Euro-passengers who are going to get drunk and give you a miserable flight. |
| 15:52.56 | mindjuju | heh |
| 15:53.33 | wps | :) |
| 15:54.04 | wps | I can't believe they had to evacuate New Orleans again |
| 15:54.10 | wps | why on earth do people still live there? |
| 15:54.31 | wps | why would you go back? |
| 15:54.52 | mindjuju | yeah, its not like they live BELOW the sea level or something |
| 15:54.58 | wps | I think people that live below sea level (behind levies) are stupid |
| 15:55.09 | mindjuju | ^5 wps |
| 15:55.21 | wps | and I really frustrates me that our government spends tax dollars to save them and build these walls |
| 15:55.26 | mindjuju | well, and we're dumb for allowing our tax dollars go to letting them live there again |
| 15:56.01 | wps | people should have to sign a waver to live in florida and Louisiana stating that they are doing so at their own risk |
| 15:56.55 | wps | and now, I'm not just being funnyâ¦Â I'm serious (not about the waver, but about people being dumb for living there and about being mad that tax dollars are spent to save them) |
| 15:57.12 | wps | I wouldn't build my house at the mouth of a volcano |
| 15:57.16 | wps | and I wouldn't build it in hurricane alley |
| 15:57.19 | wps | this is a big planet |
| 15:57.24 | Utah_Dave | I agree wps |
| 15:57.32 | wps | there are plenty of more safe places to live |
| 15:57.47 | mindjuju | well.... |
| 15:57.48 | Utah_Dave | Plus, it drives me nuts that we pay to rebuild rich people's beach houses when a storm destroys them |
| 15:58.26 | mindjuju | i think new orleans takes the cake, but people live in hazardous locations,even here in utah |
| 15:58.42 | mindjuju | we have a housing development not 10 miles from a gravel pit |
| 15:58.42 | wps | absolutely |
| 15:58.56 | mindjuju | big earthquake hits, and pow, bye bye housing |
| 15:58.59 | wps | like the idiots that built their houses on the foothilss |
| 15:59.15 | wps | and they gripe and moans when there is a mud slid in their living room |
| 15:59.25 | wps | what do you think was going to happen? |
| 15:59.35 | wps | "save us!" |
| 15:59.38 | wps | "help!" |
| 15:59.46 | wps | why on earth should the government help you? |
| 16:00.08 | wps | if an earthquake hit Utah tomorrow and my house was damaged, I wouldn't expect the state of Utah or the US government to help me |
| 16:00.13 | wps | it's not their problem, it's mine |
| 16:00.20 | wps | it's up to me to be prepare and have insurance |
| 16:00.40 | wps | s/prepare/prepared/ |
| 16:01.00 | wps | and I understand that I am exceptionally blessed and not everyone can afford insurance |
| 16:01.04 | _psychic_ | probably not so black and white |
| 16:01.06 | _psychic_ | exactly |
| 16:01.10 | wps | but you don't have to live in new orleans |
| 16:01.17 | DexterTheDragon | maybe you do |
| 16:01.24 | _psychic_ | yes |
| 16:01.30 | _psychic_ | some people can't leave |
| 16:01.44 | wps | even the poorest can hitchhike to higher ground and live there |
| 16:02.00 | _psychic_ | wps: that's not true |
| 16:02.04 | _psychic_ | hitchhike where? |
| 16:02.06 | mindjuju | mgeary, i thought you lived in provo? |
| 16:02.10 | mgeary | i do |
| 16:02.13 | _psychic_ | some can't even afford the homes they live in now |
| 16:02.16 | DexterTheDragon | and live in what? a box |
| 16:02.21 | mindjuju | oh,thought the "foothills"were in draper |
| 16:02.34 | mindjuju | i'm still learning what "the benches" are |
| 16:03.01 | mgeary | i'm up in the very north-east corner of Provo, against the mountain |
| 16:03.11 | mindjuju | ah, another set of foothills |
| 16:03.19 | mgeary | two mountains north of Y mountain |
| 16:03.31 | mgeary | which reminds me. Some day, i'm going to do this-- |
| 16:03.46 | mgeary | you know the big "G" on the mountain in Pleasant Grove? And the Y above BYU |
| 16:03.55 | mgeary | well, there's 3 mountains between them.... |
| 16:04.07 | mgeary | so ONE day, i'm going to put E A R on the mountains in between |
| 16:04.12 | mindjuju | nice |
| 16:04.15 | mgeary | and this whole valley will be MINE |
| 16:04.46 | wps | you're not an idiot if you move there and accept the responsibility, mgeary |
| 16:05.00 | wps | I only use the term idiot for those that except the government to bail them out and complain |
| 16:05.07 | wps | "the deer are eating my trees!" |
| 16:05.24 | wps | well, yes, geniusâ¦Â you built your house in their backyard, what do you expect? |
| 16:06.05 | wps | another example is where I live, in Lehi |
| 16:06.13 | wps | "it stinks! make the mink farms shut down!!!" |
| 16:06.21 | wps | why on earth should the mink farms have to shut down? |
| 16:06.31 | wps | they have been out there for generations |
| 16:06.41 | wps | no one forced you to move thereâ¦Â they were there first |
| 16:07.45 | wps | I understand that there are some people that are too poor or disabled to move, _psychic_, but why did someone settle there in the first place? |
| 16:07.54 | wps | why did the government help pay to have to levies build in the first place? |
| 16:07.57 | wps | it's stupid |
| 16:08.00 | wps | you can't change nature |
| 16:08.02 | _psychic_ | because they were ripped from their homes in Africa, for one |
| 16:08.05 | wps | nature always wins |
| 16:08.16 | _psychic_ | there's at least some of those people there |
| 16:08.23 | _psychic_ | that didn't have a choice to be there |
| 16:08.33 | _psychic_ | your point really works well for middle-class white people |
| 16:08.38 | _psychic_ | but it's not so black and white |
| 16:08.48 | wps | I undestand that |
| 16:08.58 | wps | but when aren't we spending money relocating people instead of shoring up the levies |
| 16:09.02 | wps | s/when/why/ |
| 16:09.19 | _psychic_ | how in the world would you do that |
| 16:09.20 | Utah_Dave | I bought a house near Thanksgiving Point, which is also near Camp Williams. So sometimes I have to put up with helicopters flying low at night |
| 16:09.31 | Utah_Dave | But I knew there was a military base nearby and I don't complain |
| 16:09.41 | _psychic_ | yes but you moved there by choice, which is different |
| 16:09.43 | Utah_Dave | Actually, I kind of like it now |
| 16:10.02 | mindjuju | twas cool to show my son the helicopters as they flew over head |
| 16:10.08 | Utah_Dave | who moves somewhere not by choice? Except for prisoners |
| 16:10.13 | mindjuju | utah_dave and I were nearly neighbors |
| 16:10.21 | _psychic_ | kids |
| 16:10.25 | _psychic_ | kids don't |
| 16:10.35 | _psychic_ | have you ever met people from there? |
| 16:10.42 | _psychic_ | you guys act like they're stupid |
| 16:10.47 | _psychic_ | because they have all this freedom |
| 16:10.49 | _psychic_ | that's a laugh. |
| 16:10.59 | wps | I do think they are a little stupid |
| 16:11.03 | wps | sorry |
| 16:11.24 | _psychic_ | That's because your view is close minded an naîve. |
| 16:11.28 | _psychic_ | Frankly. |
| 16:11.29 | wps | but if a hurricane came every year and destroyed my home, I would pack up my tent and move my family to higher ground |
| 16:11.37 | _psychic_ | That's because you CAN. |
| 16:11.44 | wps | everyone can walk |
| 16:11.49 | wps | wellâ¦Â most |
| 16:11.56 | _psychic_ | ok so what happens after they "walk" |
| 16:12.02 | wps | and I am fine with the government helping those that can't walk |
| 16:12.04 | _psychic_ | especially if you have a number of children |
| 16:12.28 | mindjuju | you know the funny thing |
| 16:12.41 | mindjuju | i lived in China for a year, and those guys don't make a cent, barely |
| 16:12.49 | mindjuju | but i never met more people with money in the bank |
| 16:13.02 | mindjuju | ah, saving what you have, there's the ticket to getting out of a bad situation |
| 16:13.26 | _psychic_ | wps: what happens after they leave |
| 16:13.28 | _psychic_ | where do you work |
| 16:13.34 | _psychic_ | especially if you have little to no training |
| 16:13.37 | mindjuju | where do they work now? |
| 16:13.37 | _psychic_ | where do you live |
| 16:13.43 | mindjuju | where do they live now? |
| 16:13.45 | wps | the same as they did in new orleans |
| 16:13.50 | mindjuju | right |
| 16:14.06 | wps | if they worked at KFC in New Orleans, they can work at KFC in South Dakota |
| 16:14.15 | mindjuju | yup |
| 16:14.31 | _psychic_ | Oh |
| 16:14.43 | _psychic_ | so the economies and markets are pretty much homogenous across the states |
| 16:14.50 | _psychic_ | I can work in a fishery in South Dakota |
| 16:14.56 | _psychic_ | or I can run my river boat in Vegas |
| 16:14.57 | _psychic_ | simple |
| 16:15.04 | mindjuju | anything is possible if you have a good work ethic |
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| 16:15.09 | wps | yup |
| 16:15.09 | _psychic_ | haha |
| 16:15.16 | _psychic_ | it's just that they're lazy |
| 16:15.19 | _psychic_ | like the people in Africa |
| 16:15.23 | mindjuju | nope, didn't say that |
| 16:15.25 | _psychic_ | why don't they just move too? |
| 16:15.25 | mindjuju | but you know what |
| 16:15.29 | _psychic_ | you did tho |
| 16:15.33 | _psychic_ | anything's possible |
| 16:15.36 | mindjuju | there are a lot of people who leave new orleans |
| 16:15.39 | mindjuju | how did they do it? |
| 16:15.40 | wps | I don't think Africans are lazyâ¦Â they live off the land |
| 16:15.45 | mindjuju | not all of them are lawyers |
| 16:15.53 | wps | there were, mindjuju |
| 16:16.07 | wps | after the government bussed them off to Texas and other states, they stayed there and made a new life |
| 16:16.11 | wps | very smart of them |
| 16:16.15 | mindjuju | yup |
| 16:16.24 | mindjuju | lots went to Houston, my old stomping grounds |
| 16:17.30 | Utah_Dave | Ha! This is hilarious! I was playing around with some new features in Picasa3 |
| 16:17.30 | _psychic_ | wps: they also lose children to starvation |
| 16:17.35 | _psychic_ | pretty stupid |
| 16:17.36 | _psychic_ | or lazy |
| 16:17.39 | _psychic_ | to stay there, no |
| 16:17.40 | _psychic_ | ? |
| 16:17.54 | Utah_Dave | and I created a movie clip of 7 or 8 pictures |
| 16:18.24 | Utah_Dave | I added an mp3 of Daughters by John Mayer. It had an option to make the movie match the length of the song |
| 16:18.37 | Utah_Dave | Well, it sped up the song real fast to match the length of the slideshow |
| 16:18.46 | Utah_Dave | So John Mayer sounds like a chipmunk |
| 16:18.55 | Utah_Dave | Nice! Just what I was shooting for! |
| 16:19.27 | drip | ha ha |
| 16:19.58 | drip | sounds quite intuitive! |
| 16:20.10 | Utah_Dave | yeah |
| 16:30.12 | brasto | Utah_Dave: missed you at UTOSC 2008. |
| 16:36.09 | Utah_Dave | brasto: I know. I really wanted to be there |
| 16:36.20 | Utah_Dave | We had a huge server upgrade that week and couldn't get out of it |
| 16:36.42 | Utah_Dave | In fact, I was up for almost 30 hours straight starting on Tuesday |
| 16:36.50 | Utah_Dave | did you enjoy the conference? |
| 16:37.50 | brasto | yep, but i didn't get to go to many classes this time. i helped run the Guru Labs troubleshooting challange. |
| 16:38.28 | cro | brasto: you work for Guru Labs? |
| 16:38.31 | Utah_Dave | fun! |
| 16:38.48 | herlo | cro: don't hold that against brasto :) |
| 16:39.08 | brasto | cro, yep |
| 16:39.13 | cro | I just want to know if I really got 5 out of 6 on the challenge :-) |
| 16:39.33 | brasto | cro, were you one of the finalists? |
| 16:39.37 | cro | no |
| 16:39.45 | cro | at least, I never got a call :-) |
| 16:39.54 | brasto | there were 4 people that got 5 out of 6 |
| 16:40.15 | brasto | 3 were contacted by phone, and one was contacted by email |
| 16:40.32 | cro | ok, I must have missed one that I thought I solved correctly then |
| 16:40.41 | brasto | ~brastotack herlo |
| 16:40.42 | jbot | ACTION lectures herlo on properly designed databases, normalization, writing quality code with comments, and active-voice writing until herlo can't take anymore and goes berserk. |
| 16:40.55 | herlo | lol |
| 16:41.12 | brasto | lol, see ya soon herlo |
| 16:43.30 | cro | brasto: so can you tell me what the issues were with the 'Hello World' problem? I found the accented "i" in the shebang |
| 16:43.56 | cro | but things got wacky when I tried to recreate the shellscript and move stuff around |
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| 17:16.55 | brasto | cro, the filesystem was not mounted executable in which the script resided |
| 17:17.16 | cro | Ah, excellent. Thanks. |
| 17:17.50 | cro | So was there another reason why /home suddenly started reporting "no space left on device" after I tried to manipulate the script a little bit? |
| 17:22.09 | DexterTheDragon | cro: <@brasto> for another, we used all the inodes on one file system, but they were all blank files and directories, so you couldn't write any files to the directory even though there available blocks (megabytes of space - even gigs of space) |
| 17:22.40 | cro | Very interesting. |
| 17:24.15 | cro | Thanks guys. |
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| 17:26.04 | mindjuju | swb! how is new york? |
| 17:26.49 | mindjuju | DexterTheDragon, brasto, you know, windows troubleshooting is much easier |
| 17:27.10 | swb | NY is good except that I hate satellite internet |
| 17:27.12 | swb | hehe |
| 17:27.14 | mindjuju | you jump between conflicting knowledgebase articles on what to do, the occassional kb article that admits they know its a problem and a lobotomy to ease the pain |
| 17:27.39 | mindjuju | cool, satellite internet! |
| 17:27.47 | mindjuju | like direct tv sat? |
| 17:27.49 | mindjuju | heh |
| 17:29.19 | mindjuju | course though, i'm on comcast which means i get screwed on bandwidth, cost and about 10 other factors :( |
| 17:29.19 | swb | HughesNet actually |
| 17:29.22 | swb | and don't even talk to me about getting screwed |
| 17:29.43 | DexterTheDragon | swb: are you going to come back and visit us for wordcamp? |
| 17:29.44 | mindjuju | what happened? |
| 17:30.17 | swb | there is supposedly a 200MB "download limit" and no option to upgrade... |
| 17:30.38 | beandog | 200 MEGS? |
| 17:30.40 | beandog | freak. |
| 17:30.59 | swb | DexterTheDragon: WC would be cool, but it's not in the plans so far |
| 17:31.17 | swb | now... if Automattic offered me a permanent position... would be different |
| 17:31.48 | swb | 200MB is what one rep told me, but you do in fact get different answers ea time you call |
| 17:32.08 | beandog | magic quotes-- |
| 17:32.44 | mindjuju | however, there is this protocol that might help |
| 17:32.46 | mindjuju | http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1149.html |
| 17:32.54 | mindjuju | good ole' RFC 1149 |
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| 17:33.54 | swb | k, voip-related question... |
| 17:34.53 | swb | if I want JUST a local number in NY and I want to keep my 801 phone #, know of any place I can get that? |
| 17:35.10 | swb | I basically just want a forwarding number |
| 17:35.29 | mindjuju | your grand central should do that for you |
| 17:35.31 | swb | I've researched a little online but there seems to bae a lot of junk |
| 17:36.16 | mindjuju | jsmith and utah_dave are voip pros from what i recall |
| 17:36.19 | mindjuju | are there others? |
| 17:36.31 | swb | I know! but grandcentral is closed to new signups right now and you can't change existing numbers :( |
| 17:36.39 | DexterTheDragon | mindjuju: unfortunately rfc 1149 doesn't support rfc 3514 |
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| 17:37.33 | mindjuju | foiled! |
| 17:41.57 | mindjuju | swb, seems like this is what we recommend to advisors - http://www.ringcentral.com/features/call-forwarding/overview.html |
| 17:42.15 | mindjuju | it was something like this, i'll see if i can confirm |
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| 17:52.18 | swb | mindjuju: thanks! |
| 17:52.42 | mindjuju | so what's NY like? |
| 17:52.46 | mindjuju | where are you again? |
| 17:55.03 | swb | Currently, I'm at Chazy Lake |
| 17:55.13 | swb | is very small... no cell service |
| 17:55.23 | swb | it's beautiful here, very quiet |
| 17:55.41 | mindjuju | any pics? |
| 17:56.22 | swb | not any online yet... |
| 17:56.27 | mindjuju | cool! pretty heavily wooded |
| 17:56.36 | mindjuju | reminds me of lakes around houston |
| 17:56.48 | mindjuju | like lake conroe |
| 17:56.52 | swb | hehe, mindjuju wishes for more trees |
| 17:57.12 | swb | lots of trees here, yep, you'd like it |
| 17:57.24 | mindjuju | wow, 5+ hrs to NYC |
| 17:57.32 | swb | yep |
| 17:57.50 | mindjuju | wow, there REALLY isn't a lot around ya |
| 17:57.53 | brasto | mindjuju: True... with Windows, you just have to reboot for almost every problem |
| 17:58.25 | mindjuju | close to canada though |
| 17:58.28 | mindjuju | that could be cool |
| 17:58.53 | mindjuju | in fact, from what it looks like here, Montreal is the closest big city, no? |
| 17:59.18 | mindjuju | @ brasto, huh? |
| 18:00.06 | brasto | mindjuju: you said Windows troubleshooting is easier. I said, 'True... with Windows, you just have to reboot for almost every problem' |
| 18:00.26 | mindjuju | yeah, but did you read the rest of what i said? |
| 18:00.27 | brasto | the trouble is how often you end up rebooting :) |
| 18:00.50 | swb | Montreal and Burlington are the closest cities/airports |
| 18:01.27 | mindjuju | yup, i could handle that for a campout or quick vacation, but that's about it |
| 18:01.41 | mindjuju | but it would be pretty there! |
| 18:01.47 | brasto | ah, i see the rest of what you said now, mindjuju |
| 18:02.05 | brasto | ~smimie |
| 18:02.09 | brasto | ~smime |
| 18:30.15 | mindjuju | love this song on @di.fm / breaks |
| 18:30.36 | mindjuju | dexterthedragon PM |
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| 18:51.19 | mindjuju | wow, itimber |
| 18:51.30 | mindjuju | took a while to recover from the conference, huh? |
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| 18:51.57 | itimber | hello |
| 18:51.59 | itimber | missed that |
| 18:52.10 | mindjuju | (12:51:31 PM) mindjuju: took a while to recover from the conference, huh? |
| 18:52.10 | itimber | seems that Colloquy on 10.5 doesn't work that well |
| 18:52.18 | itimber | LOL |
| 18:52.28 | itimber | naw.... been fighting fires ever sense |
| 18:52.47 | itimber | it's tough to be out when you're the only tech guy |
| 18:52.53 | itimber | but it was worth it |
| 18:53.01 | mindjuju | yup, for sure |
| 18:53.38 | itimber | great conf |
| 18:53.54 | itimber | very professionally done for a second year gig |
| 18:54.05 | itimber | ~herlo++ |
| 18:54.52 | herlo | itimber: thx |
| 18:55.21 | mgeary | herlo: amen to that. great job |
| 18:55.43 | herlo | mgeary: thx, make sure to thank the coreteam |
| 18:55.53 | mgeary | ~thank coreteam |
| 18:55.53 | jbot | sure thing, mgeary |
| 18:56.02 | itimber | thx coreteam |
| 18:56.37 | mindjuju | :) |
| 19:04.45 | herlo | lol |
| 19:26.50 | mindjuju | i thought you could switch it |
| 19:27.06 | swb | nope |
| 19:27.25 | swb | I think they are sort of locked down right now |
| 20:25.27 | Utah_Dave | swb: you could have your number ported over to a sip service. |
| 20:26.30 | mindjuju | ah there is utah_dave |
| 20:34.35 | Utah_Dave | mindjuju: sorry, I've been in and out |
| 20:36.31 | mindjuju | sure, sure |
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| 20:41.05 | swb | Utah_Dave: the 801 # ported? |
| 20:51.33 | Utah_Dave | swb: yeah, have your 801# ported to a voip company. Just like you would have your cell phone ported from T-Mobile to AT&T |
| 20:52.11 | swb | hmm |
| 20:52.33 | swb | then could I add a 518 number? |
| 20:53.42 | Utah_Dave | probably. |
| 20:53.47 | Utah_Dave | It depends on the company |
| 20:54.13 | olds | anyone have opinions/first hand experience about dealing with tier four and/or viawest as colo facilities? |
| 20:54.15 | Utah_Dave | A lot of places will let you add additional phone numbers to your account for $2 a month, or something like that |
| 20:54.24 | swb | what I really want is a virtual forwarding number like this http://www.arrivaltel.com/node/55 |
| 20:55.03 | mindjuju | jsmith always has good things to say about arrival tel |
| 20:55.43 | swb | ah, exactly, but I just want a virtual line for the $2/month and not as an add-on, but I can't seem to find one |
| 20:55.55 | olds | we're not crazy about having our servers at xmission, so we're shopping around a little bit |
| 20:56.14 | swb | called Arrivaltel, and they said their website is wrong and they don't really offer that service any more :( |
| 20:56.27 | swb | {sigh} |
| 20:57.26 | mindjuju | did they have any suggestions on how something similar may be possible? |
| 20:58.25 | swb | no, were not very helpful |
| 20:58.55 | swb | I think I have to port the # and get an add-on like Utah_Dave says |
| 20:59.04 | swb | not ready to do that yet though |
| 21:11.05 | wps | after not being able to see the bottom of my inbox for at least two weeks, I am finally one message away from empty |
| 21:13.01 | thebigdog | wps, what is your email address? |
| 21:13.20 | wps | _psychic_@ilovelousianna.com |
| 21:13.38 | mindjuju | heh |
| 21:13.47 | _psychic_ | you gave up on the discussion, not me. :) |
| 21:14.06 | olds | haha |
| 21:14.14 | _psychic_ | And I do love me some LA. Gumbo. Mmmm mmmm. |
| 21:14.19 | _psychic_ | And Jazz. |
| 21:14.27 | _psychic_ | (and stupid lazy people, apparently) :) |
| 21:14.37 | wps | ~group hug |
| 21:14.44 | wps | ~grouphug |
| 21:14.45 | jbot | ACTION hugs everbody and makes it all better... |
| 21:14.59 | wps | jbot, hug Louisianna |
| 21:15.00 | jbot | ACTION gets a running start and tackle-hugs Louisianna |
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| 21:34.44 | Utah_Dave | _psychic_: some of the best food I've ever eaten was in New Orleans |
| 21:35.11 | _psychic_ | I love southern food. |
| 21:35.21 | _psychic_ | Peanut oil + (anything) = goodness |
| 21:39.46 | macnewbold | hehe |
| 21:40.11 | beandog | anything? |
| 21:40.32 | _psychic_ | beandog: try me |
| 21:40.35 | mindjuju | peanut oil + beandog != v goodness |
| 21:40.39 | _psychic_ | bingo |
| 21:40.41 | _psychic_ | see |
| 21:40.45 | _psychic_ | if it can do beandog.... |
| 21:40.46 | beandog | lol |
| 21:41.02 | beandog | I wonder if theres any peanut oil in the vending machine |
| 21:43.39 | mindjuju | in case you do find some, i'll send over some Tony Chachere's for seasoning |
| 21:44.08 | mindjuju | which of course does (anything)^2 |
| 21:44.36 | beandog | is that that guy on TV that sells overpriced lowfat pasta |
| 21:44.53 | mindjuju | nope, its a seasoning |
| 21:45.09 | beandog | oh yah, Im thinking of Chef Tony |
| 21:45.23 | mindjuju | happen to have some hear in my office, right next to my Mexican food seasonings |
| 21:45.25 | beandog | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-YXgFv2IN4 |
| 21:45.30 | beandog | this guy is my hero |
| 21:45.47 | beandog | I always wanted to slice a pineapple in midair |
| 21:45.48 | mindjuju | holy crap! |
| 21:45.56 | mindjuju | sliced in MID AIR! |
| 21:46.33 | beandog | I cant believe Im watching an infomercial on youtube. |
| 21:47.12 | beandog | its so exciting! |
| 21:47.16 | mindjuju | a paring knife too? |
| 21:47.20 | beandog | gotta love modern technology |
| 21:47.24 | mindjuju | that'd easily cost $500 |
| 21:49.15 | beandog | LOL |
| 21:49.28 | beandog | oh my crap |
| 21:49.37 | beandog | lmao |
| 21:49.59 | wps | there is no way you could get work done while sitting in that |
| 21:50.05 | mindjuju | heh |
| 21:51.04 | wps | HA HA HA |
| 21:51.05 | wps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMQ3B1svIQo |
| 21:51.12 | orsonj | I'd like to see a youtube video that mocks all knife salesmen titled "how to cut like a knife salesman" |
| 21:52.23 | mindjuju | where's your hand suppose to go if your spouse is using that? |
| 21:54.54 | beandog | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngRq82c8Baw |
| 21:55.00 | beandog | One Semester of Spanish - Love Song |
| 21:55.41 | mindjuju | that's funny |
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| 22:13.42 | mgeary | whew. Colloquy giving me crap there |
| 22:13.48 | mgeary | so, help me with this one-- |
| 22:14.16 | wps | just do it, mgeary |
| 22:14.23 | mgeary | anyone here ever done command line processing of quicktime files? |
| 22:14.23 | wps | you're only young so long |
| 22:14.51 | cro | mgeary: a little bit |
| 22:14.59 | mgeary | cro: using what? ffmpeg? |
| 22:15.03 | cro | using ffmpeg, yes |
| 22:15.11 | mgeary | any problems? |
| 22:15.38 | cro | I didn't get very good results, and the command line options are legion, I didn't have time to figure out exactly what I was doing wrong |
| 22:15.48 | cro | It did what I asked, the quality was just poor |
| 22:16.07 | cro | converted an MPEG2 file recorded by my MythTV setup to Quicktime |
| 22:16.38 | mgeary | i want to take a bunch of mov files to mp3 |
| 22:16.46 | mgeary | (audio-only mov files) |
| 22:16.48 | cro | ok |
| 22:16.51 | mgeary | any tips? |
| 22:16.51 | cro | that should be no problem |
| 22:17.04 | cro | well, ffmpeg is pretty smart |
| 22:17.09 | cro | I think all you need to say is |
| 22:17.18 | cro | ffmpeg infile.mp3 -o outfile.mov |
| 22:17.34 | cro | and include a bitrate (can't remember the exact switch) |
| 22:17.58 | mindjuju | @ beandog - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOPsfaQRcbk&feature=related |
| 22:18.29 | thebigdog | mgeary, use mplayer |
| 22:18.37 | cro | that could work too |
| 22:18.46 | mgeary | don't have it installed. is that cli? |
| 22:18.55 | thebigdog | mplayer is cli |
| 22:19.02 | beandog | yay mplayer |
| 22:19.13 | thebigdog | and beandog is a guru too |
| 22:19.18 | thebigdog | ~beandog |
| 22:19.19 | jbot | hmm... beandog is the gentoo guru, or a wannabe racer. a skater. the enlightened one |
| 22:19.26 | cro | mgeary: Are you on OS X? |
| 22:19.26 | thebigdog | well not a gentoo guru |
| 22:19.31 | beandog | what? |
| 22:19.31 | mgeary | yeah |
| 22:19.34 | mgeary | cro: yeah |
| 22:19.40 | thebigdog | and he cant skate all that well |
| 22:19.42 | mindjuju | beandog setup my stereo; he's a guroob |
| 22:19.44 | beandog | lol |
| 22:19.52 | cro | mgeary: You can prob get mplayer out of Darwin Ports. |
| 22:19.55 | beandog | I did? |
| 22:20.17 | mgeary | actually |
| 22:20.18 | mindjuju | actually, a quote from Strange Brew, but twas close enough |
| 22:20.29 | mgeary | ffmpeg seems to be doing it just fine |
| 22:20.33 | cro | cool |
| 22:20.42 | mindjuju | My brother is a genius, eh! he setup the stereo |
| 22:20.44 | mgeary | so here's a question: i can produce a list of files to process like this: |
| 22:21.07 | mgeary | find . -name audio_chunk.mov |
| 22:21.25 | mgeary | what i want to do is string that together with ffmpeg. However, i want the outfile to be in the same directory as each respective mov |
| 22:21.30 | mgeary | any tips on that? |
| 22:21.36 | beandog | yah |
| 22:21.56 | mgeary | find . -name audio_chunk.mov | xargs ffmpeg -i $1 outfile.mp3 |
| 22:22.02 | mgeary | something along those lines |
| 22:22.08 | beandog | mgeary wins. |
| 22:22.17 | mgeary | will that pick up the correct directory? |
| 22:22.27 | mgeary | i would think that would use the pwd |
| 22:22.28 | mgeary | cwd |
| 22:22.31 | cro | no, and the outfile will have the wrong name, right? |
| 22:22.35 | beandog | well if you do -i $1 `dirname $1`/outfile.mp3 it will |
| 22:23.28 | mgeary | "find . -name audio_chunk.mov | xargs ffmpeg -i $1 `dirname $1`/audio_chunk.mp3" |
| 22:23.31 | mgeary | but that's not quite right |
| 22:23.37 | thebigdog | add this |
| 22:23.40 | thebigdog | xargs -i |
| 22:23.50 | thebigdog | replace $1 with "{}" |
| 22:23.51 | mgeary | xargs: illegal option -- i |
| 22:23.57 | thebigdog | oh man mac sucks |
| 22:24.03 | thebigdog | xargs -I |
| 22:25.59 | thebigdog | oh i got it |
| 22:26.27 | thebigdog | xargs -J % ffmpeg -i % `dirname %`/audio_chunk.mp3 |
| 22:27.43 | thebigdog | so something like this: find . -type f -name "*.mov" | xargs -J % ffmpeg -i % `dirname %`/audio_chunk.mp3 |
| 22:28.19 | orsonj | find . -name audio_chunk.mov -execdir ffmpeg -i '{}' audio_chunk.mp3 \; |
| 22:33.14 | mgeary | orsonj: that did it |
| 22:34.51 | itimber | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:34.53 | SunSparc | If I am using svn to commit over http (port 80, I assume) is there anything I need to do to my firewall to let me through? Is there something other than port 80 that needs to be considered? |
| 22:36.00 | thebigdog | nope |
| 22:36.35 | mgeary | unless your firewall analyzes packets |
| 22:36.48 | thebigdog | or anyone else |
| 22:37.03 | thebigdog | i always run my svn over https |
| 22:37.21 | SunSparc | thebigdog: Yeah, I prefer https also. |
| 22:37.27 | SunSparc | or ssh |
| 22:37.55 | thebigdog | it is just easier to run svn over https |
| 22:38.08 | thebigdog | usually firewalls have 80 and 443 open |
| 22:39.14 | mgeary | hrm |
| 22:39.28 | mgeary | does ffmpeg not upsample if you specify a higher bitrate than the source? |
| 22:39.32 | SunSparc | In this case, I am dealing with an svn repo that is already setup over http and cannot be changed quickly. Eventually it will be changed, I am sure. But for now, I cannot commit from the that certain location. |
| 22:41.57 | cro | mgeary: Sorry, don't know the answer to that one |
| 22:42.08 | cro | but what would it fill in the extra bandwidth with? |
| 22:42.17 | thebigdog | orsonj, if you want speed though i would use xargs |
| 22:44.20 | mgeary | cro: itunes is playing these output files, but Quicktime Pro will not |
| 22:44.59 | thebigdog | SunSparc, what error are you getting |
| 22:45.02 | cro | mgeary: wow, that's weird. Didn't realize that QT Pro was so picky |
| 22:45.11 | mgeary | well, i'm thinking these mp3s are weird somehow |
| 22:45.20 | mgeary | but since QTP won't open it, that's hard to confirm |
| 22:45.29 | cro | QTPro won't transcode them for you? |
| 22:45.37 | mgeary | won't even open |
| 22:45.52 | cro | I mean the original .movs |
| 22:45.58 | mgeary | oh yeah |
| 22:46.16 | mgeary | but i can't batch process them since QTP doesn't have native mp3 export |
| 22:46.24 | mgeary | applescript doesn't "see" the LAME plugin |
| 22:47.03 | cro | Maybe mplayer is a better choice? |
| 22:47.18 | mgeary | maybe i'll convert these to aiff instead of mp3 |
| 22:47.27 | cro | or ogg? :-) |
| 22:48.11 | mgeary | yeah the AIFF plays just fine in QTP |
| 22:48.19 | orsonj | thebigdog: you spend more time trying to figure out the right xargs command than you save by using it :) |
| 22:48.20 | mgeary | 'course it's 70x the size |
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| 22:48.28 | cro | :-D |
| 22:48.35 | thebigdog | orsonj, haha |
| 22:48.37 | orsonj | of course for large runs, education always pays off |
| 22:48.39 | thebigdog | expecially on mac |
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| 22:49.49 | SunSparc | thebigdog: Error Commit failed (details follow): Error Server sent unexpected return value (400 Bad Request) in response to OPTIONS Error request for '/svn/site/trunk/app/views/pages' |
| 22:50.08 | SunSparc | That is a tortoise error |
| 22:50.44 | thebigdog | are you sure you have the location correct? |
| 22:51.39 | thebigdog | you sure you cant hit it via https? |
| 22:52.14 | SunSparc | Yes, I can checkout and update from it just fine. The error only happens on commit. |
| 22:52.37 | SunSparc | Hmmm, almost like it is read only... |
| 22:52.40 | thebigdog | and you have commit access? |
| 22:52.48 | SunSparc | Have in the past... |
| 22:52.59 | SunSparc | Hmmm, let me make sure that has not changed... |
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| 23:22.35 | SunSparc | Yeah, that was not it. |
| 23:22.44 | SunSparc | Oh well, gotta run. Later allz |
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