| 00:07.31 | mgeary | hey, has anyone downloaded iphone 2.0.2? |
| 00:07.39 | mgeary | and still have the ipsw file? |
| 00:08.05 | mgeary | i need to compare checksums |
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| 05:02.51 | wps | I have recursive function |
| 05:03.12 | wps | I need to have a counter that increments every time it loops |
| 05:03.51 | wps | any suggestions on how to make that work? |
| 05:03.56 | romanovic | every time it recurses? |
| 05:03.59 | wps | yes |
| 05:04.20 | wps | I am passing the count back in but it isn't accurate since portions stop while it recurses (if that makes sense) |
| 05:04.45 | wps | I can show you the code I have currently if that will help |
| 05:05.38 | wps | waitâ¦Â noâ¦Â not increment each time it recurses |
| 05:05.56 | wps | I have a foreach inside of the functionâ¦Â I need it to increment each time the foreach loops |
| 05:07.14 | wps | I can't think of any way to make it work without storing the counter in the session |
| 05:07.19 | romanovic | what are you foreach'ing? |
| 05:07.19 | wps | which seems stupid |
| 05:07.31 | wps | a big array |
| 05:07.59 | wps | http://rafb.net/p/JldOOA10.html |
| 05:08.30 | wps | see how the alternating row colors are not every other? |
| 05:08.31 | wps | http://screencast.com/t/hXxjp1P9 |
| 05:09.16 | romanovic | oh i see |
| 05:09.39 | wps | sorry; it's hard to explain |
| 05:11.14 | romanovic | so with the %2 its highlighting only even rows |
| 05:11.27 | romanovic | or *should* only be highlighting even |
| 05:11.38 | wps | yeah |
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| 05:16.31 | romanovic | what is happening, is all the expanded key rows alternate with each other properly |
| 05:16.52 | romanovic | so if you picture them without being expanded, without the children, then they would properly alternate |
| 05:17.04 | wps | each time it recurses, the following loops are correctâ¦Â the problem is when it done burrowing and comes back up a level |
| 05:17.11 | wps | correct |
| 05:19.11 | wps | here, this might help |
| 05:19.43 | wps | here's the counter echo'd out in each row |
| 05:19.43 | wps | http://screencast.com/t/pBnW9PlQd |
| 05:21.12 | romanovic | yes that makes it more clear |
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| 05:21.46 | wps | it's doing exactly what it should :) |
| 05:21.49 | wps | it's just not what I want |
| 05:22.09 | wps | perhaps, mgeary has an idea |
| 05:22.18 | wps | you up for a recursion question, mgeary? |
| 05:23.17 | romanovic | what you are looking for is strictly alternating for every row, no matter if it is a parent or a child right? |
| 05:23.25 | wps | correct |
| 05:24.13 | romanovic | where are you initially calling this function from? |
| 05:24.21 | wps | the row highlighting is simply for aiding the eye in scanning left/rightâ¦Â has nothing to do with the hierarchy |
| 05:24.29 | wps | last line of the paste |
| 05:24.32 | romanovic | right, makes sense |
| 05:24.52 | romanovic | oh heh had to scroll down a line |
| 05:27.23 | romanovic | with each recursion, each time it goes one level deeper, it increments but when it returns, the previous recursion doesn't know how many rows have passed |
| 05:28.22 | romanovic | so maybe what you need is a more global count, so that no matter what level the recursion is on, the rows are incremented correctly |
| 05:30.17 | wps | exactlyâ¦Â I can't think of a way to do that besides putting it in the session |
| 05:30.20 | wps | â¦which seems stupid |
| 05:30.41 | romanovic | yeah |
| 05:30.54 | wps | or a cookieâ¦Â which is even more stupid |
| 05:31.12 | wps | does it work to make it global? |
| 05:31.52 | romanovic | maybe, though i'm not as much of an expert with how variables work in php as others here... its been a while |
| 05:31.58 | wps | holy crap |
| 05:32.01 | wps | I can't believe it was that simple |
| 05:32.08 | wps | and that I didn't try it earlier |
| 05:32.11 | romanovic | my simple solution is just to take the var outside the recursing function |
| 05:32.13 | wps | that worked |
| 05:32.28 | wps | and now I don't have to pass the var back into the function |
| 05:33.18 | wps | thanks for walking through it with me |
| 05:33.22 | wps | I appreciate your time |
| 05:34.58 | romanovic | yeah i'm trying to look through more code when guys bring it up online, cause its been about 2 yrs since i did any serious php programming. |
| 05:35.10 | romanovic | wps, btw Are you going to the open source conference? |
| 05:35.23 | wps | I'd like to, but I'm swamped |
| 05:36.11 | wps | here's what worked if you're interested: http://rafb.net/p/kAu1Vp78.html |
| 05:36.38 | wps | now I know for next time and won't waste an hour on a counter :) |
| 05:37.09 | romanovic | Yes it makes sense |
| 05:37.25 | wps | I can't believe it was that simple |
| 05:37.27 | wps | arrrg |
| 05:38.24 | romanovic | hey i didn't see it immediately either, but the process of explaining it to someone else always seems to help |
| 05:38.32 | wps | absolutely |
| 05:38.44 | wps | I believe the best debugging tool is talking through it outloud to someone |
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| 05:49.01 | romanovic | wps, do you attend UPHPU meetings? I recently returned to utah and found the group on irc so I haven't really participated in anything yet |
| 05:49.32 | wps | I started the group and went every week for three years or soâ¦Â then I had a baby and haven't been since |
| 05:50.14 | wps | I still run administer the group, but have delegated planning and running the meetings to Victor since I can't make it |
| 05:50.24 | wps | every month I try to make it, but I am just spread too thin |
| 05:50.39 | wps | s/every week/every month/ |
| 05:51.02 | wps | (my wife had the baby, not me) |
| 05:51.31 | wps | my wife is still a full-time student, so I am very busy being dad |
| 05:51.49 | wps | and we just had a second child two months ago, so now we're even more busy :) |
| 05:51.59 | romanovic | victor = mindjuju? still trying to match up nicks with people |
| 05:52.16 | wps | yes, victor is mindjuju |
| 05:54.11 | romanovic | yeah parenting understandably takes priority. So is there anything coming up this month? the last post on the site is a month old |
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| 05:55.22 | wps | I have "Battle of the code poets (getting the most out of your code)" for August |
| 05:55.44 | romanovic | oh i see it. what does this event consist of? |
| 05:56.02 | wps | I am sorry that I don't have more information for you |
| 05:56.08 | wps | you'll have to ping Victor in the morning |
| 05:56.26 | romanovic | ok i will, thanks |
| 05:56.34 | wps | I'm not sure what that presentation will be about exactly |
| 05:56.44 | wps | October should be cool if you want to mark your calendar |
| 05:56.51 | wps | someone from Adobe is coming to speak |
| 05:58.02 | romanovic | that will be cool, i'll remember it. So does victor also maintain the group's site, or have you continued that yourself? |
| 05:58.18 | wps | I still do everything except plan/run the meetings |
| 05:58.28 | wps | (website, mailing list, official stuff) |
| 05:58.37 | wps | the site and mailing list are on my server |
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| 14:55.54 | SunSparc | mgeary: How is your iPhone doing? |
| 14:59.38 | mgeary | got it unbricked |
| 15:00.00 | mgeary | i was finally able to compare checksums with another guy who'd downloaded the 2.0.2 update, and confirm mine was borked |
| 15:00.04 | mgeary | a fresh download did the trick |
| 15:00.21 | SunSparc | good |
| 15:00.31 | SunSparc | All is well? No data loss? |
| 15:00.35 | mgeary | though i'm ticked at my ISP for apparently throttling my connection. I was getting 4kb/sec last night from home, and finally ssh'd into my colo at fibernet and got 4+mb/sec |
| 15:00.51 | mgeary | ...though speedtests were showing 8+mb/sec from home :/ |
| 15:00.56 | mgeary | yeah, all seems well |
| 15:00.59 | mgeary | no data loss |
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| 15:06.22 | SunSparc | mgeary: That is good. |
| 15:06.37 | SunSparc | ISP's that throttle need to be throttled. |
| 15:06.58 | wps | thems are fight'n words |
| 15:07.03 | SunSparc | Unless they are throttling porn and pirating |
| 15:07.11 | SunSparc | and spam |
| 15:07.25 | SunSparc | wps: Yep! |
| 15:08.33 | fungus | I've never heard of anyone "throttling" porn. Blocking, yes, but throttling, no. It just doesn't make sense. |
| 15:08.41 | wps | ha ha ha |
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| 15:09.28 | fungus | Mr Smith. Our service is throttled to only one nudie pic per hour. |
| 15:13.17 | SunSparc | fungus: :) |
| 15:13.33 | SunSparc | That would be a good way to do it. |
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| 15:45.32 | mgeary | heh. i like how my iphone and my iCal on my computer both reminded me at the exact same second of an upcoming event |
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| 15:51.49 | itimber | morn' gents |
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| 16:47.44 | thebigdog | morning all |
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| 17:10.53 | wps | how do I make this regex match anything EXCEPT ".com" |
| 17:10.53 | wps | ^(w{3}\.)?omniture\.([^com]) |
| 17:11.07 | wps | currently, as it is, it matches anything except ".c", ".o", ".m" |
| 17:15.09 | SunSparc | wps: Perhaps if you put {3} after the ) |
| 17:15.18 | SunSparc | Or after the ] |
| 17:16.15 | wps | but then it could match ".moc" |
| 17:16.22 | SunSparc | :) |
| 17:18.00 | SunSparc | I have looked for a good solution to that in the past, but have yet to find any good answers. |
| 17:18.42 | unum | would you have to do [^c][^o][^m] |
| 17:18.53 | unum | or would [^(com)] work |
| 17:19.07 | mgeary | no |
| 17:19.19 | wps | any ideas, mgeary? |
| 17:19.22 | mgeary | you'd have to do something like: |
| 17:19.56 | mgeary | \.[^cC][^oO][^mM]$ |
| 17:20.06 | mgeary | yeah, unum's first suggestion |
| 17:20.10 | wps | what if you don't care about capitals |
| 17:20.22 | mgeary | then, yeah, what unum wrote, plus the \. and $ |
| 17:20.54 | mgeary | you can't negate character sequences (very easily/well) in regex |
| 17:21.04 | wps | how frustrating |
| 17:21.08 | mgeary | yeah |
| 17:21.20 | wps | this look right? |
| 17:21.20 | wps | ^(w{3}\.)?omniture\.([^c][^o][^m])$ |
| 17:21.40 | mgeary | yeah, i think so |
| 17:21.41 | wps | so that will match "www.omniture.com.mx" or "www.omniture.de" but not "www.omniture.com"? |
| 17:21.50 | wps | thanksâ¦Â I'll test it |
| 17:21.51 | mgeary | right |
| 17:22.47 | mgeary | heh. just read this: "John McCain graduated 894th in a class of 899 at the Naval Academy at Annapolis" |
| 17:24.49 | _psychic_ | fwiw I think Abraham Lincoln had very little education and couldn't even get into law school. |
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| 17:27.57 | mgeary | _psychic_: that had to do with his opportunities, not his abilities |
| 17:28.10 | mgeary | apparently Lincoln taught himself law |
| 17:28.24 | mgeary | started doing it in 1834 and passed the bar in 1837 |
| 17:28.29 | mgeary | says wikipedia, anyhow |
| 17:28.54 | _psychic_ | point is class rank may not play in a whole lot into presidential ability |
| 17:29.33 | mgeary | well, i wasn't directly intending to imply anything about McCain. I just found it noteworthy that such a high profile person was ranked so low in his class |
| 17:31.37 | mgeary | ...because he didn't get a class.... |
| 17:31.39 | mgeary | ;) |
| 17:33.07 | mgeary | i'm reminded of people who talk about how Einstein was a bad student. That's a complete myth. Einstein was an excellent student with top grades |
| 17:33.20 | mgeary | not implying that you, _psychic_, are claiming this. this is a tangent |
| 17:34.15 | _psychic_ | yeah np |
| 17:34.27 | _psychic_ | My main point is that there are so many other places to nail McCain |
| 17:34.32 | mgeary | hahahah |
| 17:34.36 | _psychic_ | lair |
| 17:34.38 | _psychic_ | adulterer |
| 17:34.39 | _psychic_ | etc. |
| 17:34.43 | _psychic_ | *liar |
| 17:35.03 | beandog | bad hair |
| 17:35.11 | mgeary | well, i was just reading a good article complaining about how he was very similar to GWB in his complete lack of intellectual curiosity |
| 17:35.32 | _psychic_ | well the lack of rigor in the White House is a primary cause in getting us into the mess we're in |
| 17:50.04 | thebigdog | has mindjuju been around at all? |
| 17:51.01 | SunSparc | ~seen mindjuju |
| 17:51.04 | jbot | mindjuju <n=mindjuju@mail.billgood.us> was last seen on IRC in channel #uphpu, 3d 20h 35m 28s ago, saying: 'and v good for a friday'. |
| 17:52.48 | SunSparc | thebigdog: ^ |
| 17:53.05 | thebigdog | i guess he is on vacation |
| 17:53.21 | SunSparc | Could be |
| 17:53.41 | SunSparc | Doesn't someone else here work with him? |
| 17:53.57 | thebigdog | i dont think so |
| 18:10.20 | mgeary | perish the thought... |
| 18:11.01 | dataw0lf | mgeary: He wasn't just bottom at his class. He was a troublemaker, and he crashed three planes during training and during a live exercise. |
| 18:11.08 | dataw0lf | (two he flew into the ground, another he flew into some power cables) |
| 18:11.20 | mgeary | wow. fun |
| 18:11.31 | dataw0lf | and personally I find the whole Forrestal fiasco extremely suspicious. |
| 18:14.33 | dataw0lf | but meh. McCain was born to a family of wealth and power and graduated in an extreme poor rank, and was demerited numerous times. Obama was born to a poor family and graduated from Columbia and Harvard at the top of his class (and was president of the Harvard Law Review). It's an interesting contrast. |
| 18:18.32 | SunSparc | Comparing only those merits of both candidates, I would vote for Obama. |
| 18:18.51 | dataw0lf | _psychic_ is right though. There is much, much worse about McCain. |
| 18:19.12 | dataw0lf | I used to actually like McCain, interestingly enough. Then I started reading up on him extensively and he's generally just a disgusting guy. |
| 18:19.31 | _psychic_ | Agreed. |
| 18:19.42 | _psychic_ | I still don't understand his torture stance. |
| 18:19.55 | mgeary | yeah, i used to respect that he would buck his party at times |
| 18:20.21 | dataw0lf | did you guys read the article from the Arizona reporter who has been covering McCain for years? |
| 18:20.35 | _psychic_ | no. |
| 18:20.50 | dataw0lf | man. |
| 18:20.51 | dataw0lf | http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/2008-08-07/news/postmodern-mccain-the-john-mccain-some-arizonans-know-and-loathe/ |
| 18:21.07 | dataw0lf | if you haven't already lost faith in the media, be prepared to. |
| 18:21.13 | _psychic_ | I take it the title says it all. :) |
| 18:22.15 | dataw0lf | heh. it's worse. |
| 19:06.13 | beandog | dataw0lf, good article |
| 19:09.05 | dataw0lf | beandog: yea |
| 19:10.13 | beandog | my impression is that the guy is largely indifferent to a lot of stuff |
| 19:10.38 | beandog | likes the status quo |
| 19:10.48 | DexterTheDragon | the status is not quo |
| 19:30.12 | beandog | freak |
| 19:30.16 | beandog | never read changelogs. |
| 19:32.03 | beandog | all the stupid bugs make me nervous |
| 19:32.07 | beandog | http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/news-5-0-26.html |
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| 20:08.08 | wps | direct quote just now from my wife: |
| 20:08.29 | wps | "you knowâ¦Â McCain wasn't that bad looking back in the day" |
| 20:08.51 | wps | why would she have said that to me? |
| 20:09.00 | beandog | youre getting gray hair? |
| 20:09.07 | wps | and how can girls get away with that? |
| 20:09.24 | wps | if I'd said "you know⦠so and so isn't half bad looking"â¦Â I'd get a dirty look |
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| 20:12.04 | beandog | I'm a little more worried that she said it about McCain |
| 20:12.19 | wps | http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2008/POLITICS/08/18/revealed.mccain.vietnam/art.mccain.pilot.jpg |
| 20:12.29 | wps | decent looking guy |
| 20:12.37 | wps | not plastic-faced like he is now |
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| 20:16.24 | beandog | man, you know your internet sucks when you can watch the output of wget on a 92k text file. |
| 20:16.36 | wps | ha ha |
| 20:20.47 | beandog | I dont want it to smell bad, too |
| 20:20.54 | SunSparc | lol |
| 20:21.07 | SunSparc | How about some WD40? |
| 20:21.26 | SunSparc | ll |
| 20:24.15 | jsmith | That reminds me of one of my college physics classes |
| 20:25.17 | SunSparc | On unclogging internet pipes? |
| 20:26.15 | jsmith | No, to make a long story short, we had to build racecars that were completely edible |
| 20:26.22 | jsmith | (including the lubricant for the wheels) |
| 20:27.22 | SunSparc | That sounds like a tasty experiment. |
| 20:27.27 | jsmith | Luckily, my teammate's father was a doctor, and he let us know what the best non-toxic lubricant was for our axles... KY Jelly |
| 20:27.39 | SunSparc | Of course. |
| 20:28.36 | DexterTheDragon | yummy |
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| 20:29.22 | SunSparc | jsmith: So, was your vehicle tasty? |
| 20:29.35 | beandog | SunSparc, youre quick to give in to temptation |
| 20:29.43 | beandog | that took what, 15 seconds? :) |
| 20:30.00 | jsmith | SunSparc: I don't know... I didn't eat it. But we had the fastest car in our class. |
| 20:30.01 | SunSparc | lol, that was a different tangent. ;) |
| 20:30.11 | beandog | mindjuju, wb! |
| 20:30.12 | SunSparc | jsmith: Nice |
| 20:30.19 | mindjuju | thx beandog |
| 20:30.23 | mindjuju | good to be back |
| 20:30.27 | jsmith | mindjuju: Somebody was looking for you this morning |
| 20:30.30 | SunSparc | I enjoyed my physics class in high school. |
| 20:30.37 | SunSparc | thebigdog was looking for mindjuju |
| 20:30.39 | jsmith | mindjuju: wondering if you got hit by the proverbial bus this morning |
| 20:30.59 | mindjuju | nah, set a bunch of c4 charges on my winxp install |
| 20:31.09 | mindjuju | blasted it away and rebuilt |
| 20:31.17 | mindjuju | that time of the year again :( |
| 20:31.20 | SunSparc | mindjuju: rebuilt with OS X? |
| 20:32.33 | mindjuju | SunSparc - nope |
| 20:32.48 | mindjuju | more XP |
| 20:32.52 | SunSparc | mindjuju: My condolences. |
| 20:33.12 | mindjuju | no mac = no OS X |
| 20:33.21 | mindjuju | though i heard somebody got it to run on a standard PC |
| 20:33.38 | SunSparc | mindjuju: Yes, it has been done on several occasions. |
| 20:34.41 | mindjuju | so i've got a quick question |
| 20:35.10 | mindjuju | i've got a registration form where i'm collecting the data on my side |
| 20:35.20 | mindjuju | though i need to post data to an authorized 3rd party 's webform |
| 20:35.42 | mindjuju | should i use xmlhttprequest to send the data using javascript or should i send using PHP |
| 20:35.49 | mindjuju | i'm looking for minimal customer impact |
| 20:36.02 | SunSparc | mindjuju: you are relaying data? |
| 20:36.13 | mindjuju | some of it, yup |
| 20:36.42 | SunSparc | What services does the 3rd party site have available? |
| 20:36.59 | mindjuju | none |
| 20:37.05 | SunSparc | ? |
| 20:37.06 | mindjuju | i have to post to their online form |
| 20:37.09 | mindjuju | no APIs |
| 20:37.49 | SunSparc | Yes, that is what I was looking for. So you are just doing a post. |
| 20:37.58 | mindjuju | yup |
| 20:38.14 | mindjuju | process my part and then post to their site, automated |
| 20:38.16 | SunSparc | Just post the data to their script. No need to mess with the form. |
| 20:38.49 | SunSparc | Unless the form has stuff you need to interact with. |
| 20:49.48 | itimber | I'm out... another half day for timber..... later guys :) |
| 20:54.34 | DexterTheDragon | mindjuju: use curl |
| 20:54.54 | mindjuju | will curl let me post? |
| 20:55.00 | mindjuju | ws just bring up the docs on it |
| 20:55.22 | DexterTheDragon | yep |
| 20:55.52 | mindjuju | sexy! |
| 20:55.53 | SunSparc | curl is made for posting. Securely even |
| 21:08.46 | mgeary | you know, it'd be super easy to rig up a cron script that has your computer email you with an internal and external IP address every time it detects a change in them |
| 21:09.06 | mgeary | i wonder how much knowing that would help. I guess if it's good enough for the RIAA.... |
| 21:09.45 | mgeary | how long until every stolen laptop is sanitized before being allowed to connect to a network |
| 21:10.56 | dataw0lf | mgeary: yea, I had JUST bought it, I usually have antitheft stuff on my laptops |
| 21:11.33 | SunSparc | How did it get stolen? |
| 21:12.14 | mgeary | SunSparc: you didn't hear about dataw0lf's break-in burglary? |
| 21:12.20 | dataw0lf | some crackhead broke into my house |
| 21:12.22 | SunSparc | Nope |
| 21:12.35 | dataw0lf | stole my D40, both my laptops, miscellaneous other things |
| 21:13.06 | SunSparc | Lame |
| 21:13.32 | dataw0lf | been rewriting my UTOSC presentation, I had it perfected :\ |
| 21:15.06 | SunSparc | I had it when other people feel arrogant and entitled enough to deny me of my freedoms without my consent. |
| 21:15.11 | SunSparc | hate |
| 21:15.49 | mgeary | ~introduce SunSparc to the PATRIOT act and DHS |
| 21:16.14 | mgeary | and DCMA |
| 21:16.31 | SunSparc | :) |
| 21:16.31 | mgeary | DMCA |
| 21:17.37 | SunSparc | On a side note, I wonder how many felonies are committed by people who are of a more liberal persuasion versus a more conservative persuasion... |
| 21:18.12 | SunSparc | I would be curious to see if political persuasion has any bearing at all. |
| 21:18.18 | mgeary | white-collar felonies or blue-collar? |
| 21:18.28 | SunSparc | Both |
| 21:18.37 | SunSparc | That could be interesting also. |
| 21:18.55 | mgeary | yeah, assuming you could collect the data |
| 21:19.04 | mgeary | blue-collar crime is much more detectable |
| 21:19.05 | SunSparc | Correct |
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