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| 15:01.31 | SunSparc | GOOD MORNING EVERYONE! |
| 15:02.14 | herlo | SunSparc: morning |
| 15:02.27 | SunSparc | :) |
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| 15:04.02 | beandog | good morning, fellow utah php coworkers |
| 15:04.08 | beandog | Im going for donuts. |
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| 15:12.15 | Utah_Dave | Good morning! |
| 15:12.35 | herlo | Utah_Dave: morning! |
| 15:12.39 | herlo | Utah_Dave: attending utosc?? |
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| 15:27.43 | romanovic | goodmorning gentlemen |
| 15:30.02 | Utah_Dave | herlo: I'm still not sure if I'm going to be in town |
| 15:30.48 | herlo | Utah_Dave: oh!? where going? |
| 15:31.02 | herlo | romanovic: good morning |
| 15:31.38 | Utah_Dave | Boston, Houston, Reno, and maybe Phoenix as well |
| 15:32.45 | herlo | work? |
| 15:32.54 | herlo | because that's LABOR Day weekend too... |
| 15:33.14 | Utah_Dave | yeah. work. |
| 15:33.15 | herlo | but we'll be ending about the time the weekend really gets a rollin'... |
| 15:33.31 | herlo | Utah_Dave: ugh, yuck...but its money I suppose. Doing more VOIP installs? |
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| 15:37.00 | Utah_Dave | sort of |
| 15:37.44 | herlo | or is it *work* related? |
| 15:37.50 | Utah_Dave | yeah |
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| 16:30.18 | beandog | ping |
| 16:30.32 | tierra | pong |
| 16:30.41 | DexterTheDragon | the witch is dead |
| 16:30.46 | beandog | heh |
| 16:31.37 | mgeary | ~friday |
| 16:31.38 | jbot | ! ! ! F R I D A Y ! ! ! |
| 16:31.45 | mgeary | ~fridays |
| 16:31.55 | mgeary | hmm. jbot used to have a different ~friday |
| 16:31.55 | beandog | lol |
| 16:31.59 | mgeary | that was much more depressing |
| 16:32.01 | beandog | ~friday |
| 16:32.02 | jbot | ! ! ! F R I D A Y ! ! ! |
| 16:34.31 | beandog | ~tuesday |
| 16:34.31 | jbot | Tuesday sucks, because it follows Monday (see monday). |
| 16:34.36 | beandog | ~saturday |
| 16:34.37 | jbot | Saturday is the day that sucks the least! |
| 16:34.40 | beandog | heh |
| 16:38.05 | SunSparc | ~sunday |
| 16:38.06 | jbot | Sunday is the day all trolls swarm to #debian, avoid at all cost to remain sane. |
| 16:38.19 | SunSparc | ~monday |
| 16:38.20 | jbot | monday is, like, when everything breaks for no apparent reason, creating so many problems that it takes you until friday to get back to normal. at which point one more thing breaks that takes you the whole weekend to fix |
| 16:38.31 | SunSparc | ~wednesday |
| 16:38.32 | jbot | Wednesday sucks, because it is only half way through the week. |
| 16:38.34 | DexterTheDragon | beandog: where do you get your skateboard equipment from? |
| 16:38.38 | SunSparc | ~thursday |
| 16:38.38 | jbot | "This must be Thursday. I could never get the hang of Thursdays." (Arthur Dent) |
| 16:38.44 | beandog | DexterTheDragon, theres 3 stores here in SLC |
| 16:38.50 | beandog | theres one right next to the U I go to now |
| 16:38.58 | beandog | but I got my board at uh |
| 16:39.00 | beandog | whats it called |
| 16:39.06 | beandog | salty peaks |
| 16:39.37 | beandog | actually theres more than 3 stores, I forgot about blindside |
| 16:40.48 | DexterTheDragon | I decided to dig out my board and give it another go, but need new wheels and bearings |
| 16:41.03 | beandog | DexterTheDragon, yah? right on. that shouldnt cost much |
| 16:42.19 | DexterTheDragon | nah just trying to figure out what I want |
| 16:42.19 | beandog | I need to get a new board, mine is too small |
| 16:42.19 | beandog | just waiting for the money train to arrive |
| 16:42.42 | DexterTheDragon | any recommendations on parts? |
| 16:43.14 | beandog | I dunno that much about em |
| 16:43.20 | beandog | I just get whatever they recommend at the store |
| 16:43.30 | beandog | here, check this out tho |
| 16:43.53 | beandog | http://www.ramprage.com/forums/ |
| 16:44.11 | beandog | people ask that question a lot |
| 16:44.32 | DexterTheDragon | cool |
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| 16:47.30 | brasto | if anyone responded to my inquiry, I lost it because I had to restart x and forgot to look for a response before doing so |
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| 16:54.01 | thebigdog | brasto, i missed you question |
| 16:57.15 | brasto | fedora 9 is missing the lines necessary for the synaptic touch pad to work right (in /etc/X11/xorg.conf). I found some of the lines I need to add, but I'm missing the ones that make the bottom-right and top-right corners work the way they should. |
| 16:57.51 | herlo | brasto: they're not *missing*, just not there :)( |
| 16:58.20 | thebigdog | so your question is what do you need to put in there? |
| 16:59.39 | thebigdog | i thought synaptic touchpad had bugs on fedora |
| 17:00.31 | thebigdog | post your input device section and i might be able to help |
| 17:02.02 | jsmith | thebigdog: Works fine for me on every synaptic touchpad I've used with Fedora |
| 17:02.25 | jsmith | thebigdog: And I do all kinds of crazy things, like disable tap-to-click, and disabling the touchpad during typing |
| 17:02.27 | thebigdog | i thought they resume issues on the tap portion |
| 17:02.39 | jsmith | Not that I'm aware of |
| 17:03.25 | thebigdog | not sure then |
| 17:06.05 | mgeary | hey folks |
| 17:06.30 | mgeary | i've got a client who's apparently getting some pretty stale DNS records from their ISP. |
| 17:06.57 | mgeary | the client is completely non-technical, and they're upset that their site "isn't live", even though it has been for days for anyone with a non-stale DNS (the former nameservers had a super long TTL) |
| 17:07.31 | mgeary | does anyone know of a way i can have the client do the equivalent of a "dig domainname.com" (she's on windows) and get me the output? |
| 17:07.48 | beandog | yah, sec |
| 17:08.00 | thebigdog | tell here to update here host file |
| 17:08.01 | thebigdog | hehe |
| 17:08.05 | mgeary | heh |
| 17:08.21 | thebigdog | change here dns on windows |
| 17:08.36 | beandog | http://network-tools.com/ |
| 17:08.41 | beandog | http://www.intodns.com/ |
| 17:08.43 | beandog | if it ever loads |
| 17:09.00 | mgeary | well yeah, beandog, but those aren't going to use her same DNS server |
| 17:09.08 | beandog | oh |
| 17:09.08 | mgeary | so those are going to pull "fresh"/correct records |
| 17:09.09 | beandog | fail. |
| 17:09.19 | mgeary | :/ |
| 17:09.21 | beandog | I thought windows comes with dig |
| 17:09.28 | mgeary | it has nslookup, i think |
| 17:09.29 | jsmith | Windows comes with "nslookup" |
| 17:09.33 | mgeary | but i don't think that shows TTL |
| 17:09.40 | thebigdog | it does not |
| 17:09.49 | thebigdog | there is dig for windows |
| 17:09.57 | beandog | not stock, poop. |
| 17:09.59 | thebigdog | but she probably cannot install it |
| 17:10.16 | mgeary | even walking this client through opening the terminal and doing nslookup gives me nightmares |
| 17:10.25 | beandog | heh |
| 17:10.31 | thebigdog | have here change here dns |
| 17:10.47 | mgeary | i guess i could have her tell me her DNS server |
| 17:10.52 | beandog | mgeary, just have her call fungus |
| 17:10.52 | mgeary | and i could do a dig against that |
| 17:10.59 | mgeary | i wouldn't do that to fungus |
| 17:11.02 | thebigdog | yeah |
| 17:11.18 | mgeary | however, if she's on DHCP, there may not be an explicit DNS server specified |
| 17:11.38 | mgeary | is there a way in Windows to find out what DNS server(s) are being used for a given machine? |
| 17:11.54 | fungus | ipconfig /all |
| 17:12.21 | thebigdog | haha have here user netsh |
| 17:12.21 | mgeary | is there a way using UI tools that might be easier to walk a client through? |
| 17:14.00 | thebigdog | just in the network settings |
| 17:14.18 | mgeary | but if her DHCP server is doing DNS will it show the DNS server(s) used? |
| 17:14.50 | thebigdog | netsh interface ip set dns "Local Area Connection" static <ip address> |
| 17:15.11 | thebigdog | do that in command prompt |
| 17:15.59 | thebigdog | and then change it back: netsh interface ip set dns "Local Area Connection" dhcp |
| 17:20.08 | thebigdog | haha |
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| 17:21.01 | beandog | dsl-- |
| 17:21.05 | beandog | mgeary, did you get that link |
| 17:21.15 | mgeary | resend |
| 17:21.47 | beandog | mgeary, https://www.opendns.com/start?device=windows-xp |
| 17:21.54 | beandog | theres a nice walkthrough, with pics |
| 17:22.09 | mgeary | ah |
| 17:22.21 | mgeary | so you're suggesting the client use OpenDNS instead of their ISP's DNS servers? |
| 17:22.28 | beandog | yah |
| 17:22.53 | mgeary | yeah, that might work |
| 17:22.57 | jsmith | mgeary: I also recommend that |
| 17:22.59 | mgeary | especially with these nice pictures |
| 17:24.40 | mgeary | of course, this means repeating that change on all their office computers... :( |
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| 18:11.10 | Utah_Dave | mgeary: have their dhcp server give out the OpenDNS DNS servers |
| 18:18.17 | mgeary | Utah_Dave: i'm not gonna *touch* that |
| 18:18.22 | mgeary | this is a *dentist* office |
| 18:21.34 | Utah_Dave | so don't they just have some little Linksys router or something? I have several small clients that I've set up that way |
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| 18:32.42 | SunSparc | What is the best svn host out there? |
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| 18:40.05 | mgeary | SunSparc: how do you mean that? |
| 18:40.15 | SunSparc | Nicely |
| 18:40.21 | SunSparc | Not mean in anyway |
| 18:40.26 | SunSparc | :) |
| 18:40.28 | herlo | sunsparc: google code :) |
| 18:40.46 | mgeary | i use Dreamhost for svn hosting. 300+ gigs for something like $99/year |
| 18:40.52 | SunSparc | We have been hosting our own subversion server in house and are thinking of outsourcing it. |
| 18:40.53 | DexterTheDragon | http://repo.or.cz/ :D |
| 18:41.30 | SunSparc | We have recently been trying out unfuddle.com |
| 18:42.03 | mgeary | i'm currently using 630 megs of my 323 gigs at Dreamhost |
| 18:42.05 | herlo | hmm, will have to check that one out |
| 18:42.28 | herlo | mgeary: how much do u pay for that? |
| 18:43.08 | mgeary | herlo: i think it's ~$99/year |
| 18:43.30 | mgeary | $119.40/year, it seems |
| 18:43.34 | herlo | orly? shell access? |
| 18:44.16 | mgeary | yes |
| 18:44.21 | mgeary | ssh access |
| 18:44.23 | SunSparc | DexterTheDragon: I am not sure we want our repos to be public |
| 18:44.23 | mgeary | but not root |
| 18:44.31 | herlo | is it a vps? |
| 18:44.35 | herlo | oh |
| 18:44.36 | mgeary | no |
| 18:44.38 | herlo | poo |
| 18:44.39 | mgeary | it's a shared |
| 18:44.40 | mgeary | yeah |
| 18:44.46 | mgeary | but for svn hosting it's great |
| 18:44.50 | DexterTheDragon | SunSparc: repo.or.cz is for git :) |
| 18:44.59 | herlo | well, I *need* root |
| 18:45.18 | mgeary | for that you need a dedicated machine |
| 18:45.32 | mgeary | the cheapest i've seen them is ~$50/month |
| 18:45.36 | SunSparc | DexterTheDragon: hehe, git outta here |
| 18:45.37 | mgeary | or a VPS |
| 18:46.09 | herlo | right, have a vps for 150/year |
| 18:46.30 | mgeary | and i've become disenchanted with Verio's VPS, though i haven't tried any others |
| 18:46.35 | DexterTheDragon | SunSparc: the svn one that I know if is http://beanstalkapp.com/ |
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| 18:51.59 | SunSparc | mgeary: What about the Verio VPS has disenchanted you? |
| 18:52.06 | SunSparc | I have been using them for years and love them. |
| 18:52.23 | mgeary | SunSparc: try upgrading your server without changing the IP address |
| 18:54.06 | SunSparc | mgeary: From a VPS basic to a VPS pro, for example? |
| 18:54.23 | mgeary | yep |
| 18:54.43 | SunSparc | I have done that. You just push a button in the backroom |
| 18:55.18 | SunSparc | You had to change your IP? |
| 18:57.34 | SunSparc | herlo: You like google code? |
| 18:57.45 | SunSparc | DexterTheDragon: have you used beanstalk? |
| 19:03.16 | DexterTheDragon | SunSparc: nope. just know that it exists |
| 19:03.23 | DexterTheDragon | we just host all of our own |
| 19:03.35 | SunSparc | ah, ok. Thanks |
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| 20:37.05 | thebigdog | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:03.43 | mgeary | ~rlart |
| 22:03.44 | jbot | resizes timinator's terminal to 40x24 |
| 22:13.18 | Utah_Dave | well, I'm done for the day. |
| 22:13.22 | Utah_Dave | Later, everyone |
| 22:13.29 | mgeary | ~compare Utah_Dave, timinator |
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| 22:57.59 | timinator | jbot: what's this about resizing my terminal window?!?! |
| 22:59.43 | SunSparc | Even my iPhone has a better terminal size than yours timinator |
| 23:00.44 | timinator | as long as we're comparing terminal windows, yours is much larger.... just don't compare other things :) |
| 23:00.57 | SunSparc | :) |
| 23:01.13 | SunSparc | Good call, we would not want to hurt anyone's feelings. |
| 23:07.01 | timinator | fo sho |
| 23:07.12 | timinator | gotta run guys.... have a good weekend all |
| 23:09.53 | SunSparc | laterz |
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