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| 00:32.16 | macnewbold | ~rlart |
| 00:32.17 | jbot | chops herlo in half with a free Solaris 7 CD |
| 00:34.04 | macnewbold | ~yow |
| 00:34.41 | mindjuju | feeling violent today are we macnewbold? |
| 00:34.42 | macnewbold | all the math geek stuff gets even funner when you make it case sensitive |
| 00:34.59 | macnewbold | you can do base 64 with 0-9A-Za-z-_ |
| 00:35.22 | macnewbold | or pick two chars other than - and _, like . or somethign |
| 00:35.40 | macnewbold | i don't recall off hand what a standard base 64 encoding uses, but it's pretty easy |
| 00:37.16 | mindjuju | so what can i type in to tell me if there are 2 NIC cards in the computer |
| 00:37.19 | mindjuju | on ubuntu? |
| 00:37.39 | mindjuju | i only show one in the setup file, and 1 only shows up in ifconfig |
| 00:37.47 | mindjuju | but there are 2 cards inside box |
| 00:38.00 | macnewbold | lets each character cover 6 bits, so four bytes of base64 encoded can cover 3 bytes of 8-bit data (6*4 = 3*8), so that's why your email attachments are always 33% bigger than the real file size |
| 00:38.19 | macnewbold | mindjuju: ifconfig will do it if you've got the drivers loaded for your other card |
| 00:38.36 | mindjuju | how can i tell if drivers are loaded on the card |
| 00:38.37 | macnewbold | if not, try checking dmesg for the PCI probing of the other card |
| 00:39.59 | mindjuju | can thsi be paused like in dos? |
| 00:39.59 | mindjuju | oh cool, |more works |
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| 01:35.47 | herlo | macnewbold: that hurt! |
| 02:01.35 | macnewbold | ~hurt herlo |
| 02:01.36 | jbot | ACTION takes a large hammer and plays whack-the-mole on herlo's hands, laughing all the while |
| 02:01.50 | macnewbold | ~celebrate herlo |
| 02:01.55 | macnewbold | ~shakespeare herlo |
| 02:01.56 | jbot | ACTION stands up and quotes Shakespeare: herlo - Thou pribbling bat-fowling devil-mon! |
| 02:02.15 | macnewbold | ~whaleslap DexterTheDragon |
| 02:02.15 | jbot | ACTION beats DexterTheDragon upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 02:02.24 | macnewbold | ~herring mindjuju |
| 02:02.24 | jbot | ACTION whacks mindjuju on the side of the head with a large red herring named alfred |
| 02:02.28 | DexterTheDragon | ow |
| 02:02.31 | herlo | ~travolta macnewbold |
| 02:02.32 | jbot | ACTION replaces macnewbold with several craters in a multi-colored display of superior fire power |
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| 02:02.43 | macnewbold | j/k, sorry DexterTheDragon and herlo |
| 02:02.49 | herlo | ~goober macnewbold |
| 02:02.58 | macnewbold | how are multi-colored firepower craters related to travolta? |
| 02:02.58 | herlo | ahh, that'd be a good one! |
| 02:03.08 | macnewbold | ~nosepick herlo |
| 02:03.09 | jbot | ACTION plucks herlo out of the nose of humanity and flicks him out the window! |
| 02:03.15 | herlo | macnewbold: you've not ever seen Pulp Fiction, have you? |
| 02:03.19 | macnewbold | ah |
| 02:03.23 | macnewbold | gotcha |
| 02:03.34 | herlo | ~poo macnewbold |
| 02:03.35 | jbot | ACTION summons a troop of flying monkeys to fling their poo at macnewbold |
| 02:03.49 | herlo | speaking of flinging stuff... :) |
| 02:23.26 | macnewbold | ~insult herlo |
| 02:23.31 | macnewbold | ouch |
| 02:23.34 | macnewbold | ~language jbot |
| 02:23.35 | jbot | ACTION grabs jbot by the ear and washes jbot's mouth out with soap |
| 02:23.51 | macnewbold | quick, someone erase that before I get in trouble with wps |
| 02:24.06 | macnewbold | oh, he's not here, lucky for me. |
| 02:25.58 | herlo | ~insult macnewbold |
| 02:27.01 | DexterTheDragon | macnewbold with the language |
| 02:47.04 | macnewbold | I know, I'm so ashamed i made jbot say that |
| 02:47.09 | macnewbold | but he didn't swear in yours |
| 02:49.26 | herlo | ~insult macnewbold |
| 02:50.29 | DexterTheDragon | ~rlart |
| 02:50.29 | jbot | teaches redroy_ that M$ Access is a database. No, really, a database. A real live multi-user... well, ok, not multi-user, but a database. Yeah, that sounds right. |
| 03:01.18 | mindjuju | so will the boogey man come get me if i put kde on the ubuntu server? |
| 03:03.45 | DexterTheDragon | mindjuju: no but you'll lose a crap load of l33tness points |
| 03:07.15 | herlo | mindjuju: kubuntu! |
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| 05:18.28 | bwelker | anybody here? |
| 05:18.57 | bwelker | echo hello |
| 05:19.02 | bwelker | haha funny joke |
| 05:19.18 | bwelker | nobody? really? |
| 05:19.25 | bwelker | dangit |
| 05:19.55 | bwelker | well... maybe somebody will see this, and I'll check the logs tomorrow |
| 05:21.02 | bwelker | anywho... i have a player class for a game i'm building, and i'd like to store the current state of the object in session |
| 05:21.20 | bwelker | then I'd like to really mess with the object, changing it completly |
| 05:21.44 | bwelker | then after a bit, grab the original object out of session, and restore it |
| 05:21.51 | bwelker | all from within the object |
| 05:21.58 | bwelker | the problem I'm running into is this: |
| 05:22.26 | bwelker | when I use $_SESSION['OBJECT'] = $this inside the object, then change the data |
| 05:22.55 | bwelker | the data gets changed in the session version as well, as if I had used $_SESSION['OBJECT'] = & $this |
| 05:23.08 | bwelker | how can I make a copy of the object, and not just a reference? |
| 05:23.46 | bwelker | p.s. - PHP 5.2.x |
| 05:28.14 | bwelker | nm |
| 05:28.23 | bwelker | $_SESSION['OBJECT'] = clone $this |
| 05:28.32 | bwelker | thanks everybody !!! =) |
| 05:28.40 | wps | you're welcomeâ¦Â glad to help |
| 05:28.44 | bwelker | lol |
| 05:28.48 | bwelker | jerk ;) |
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| 13:23.43 | mindjuju | yow |
| 13:23.47 | mindjuju | ~yow |
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| 14:48.18 | mindjuju | ~rlart |
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| 14:57.57 | timinator | morning guys |
| 14:58.25 | mindjuju | good morning to you, sir |
| 14:59.28 | herlo | HELOOOOO |
| 15:00.23 | mindjuju | sup herlo |
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| 15:08.15 | herlo | mindjuju: hellooooo! |
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| 15:13.17 | beandog | buenos dias |
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| 15:13.37 | herlo | beandog: HIIII!!!! |
| 15:14.32 | beandog | herlo, sup |
| 15:14.55 | herlo | beandog: announcing the last day to register for a discount at UTOSC :) |
| 15:15.07 | beandog | man, if I wasn't beyond dirt poor, I would. |
| 15:15.13 | beandog | PoeticIntensity will pay for mine |
| 15:15.16 | herlo | beandog: volunteer |
| 15:15.39 | beandog | herlo, for what? |
| 15:15.48 | beandog | do I have to scrub toilets? |
| 15:15.50 | beandog | :) |
| 15:15.55 | herlo | beandog: http://wiki.utos.org/UTOSC2008/VolunteerPositions |
| 15:16.09 | herlo | beandog: no, but you might have to put in a little manual labor |
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| 15:18.45 | bwelker | wow... ravetrax has gone dark |
| 15:18.51 | bwelker | it's good though |
| 15:18.57 | herlo | beandog: ?? |
| 15:19.09 | beandog | herlo, eh, Ill just buy one |
| 15:19.10 | mgeary | remind me what the early registration + UG discount makes the price |
| 15:19.10 | beandog | :) |
| 15:19.13 | mgeary | herlo: ^^ |
| 15:19.43 | herlo | mgeary: lemme look |
| 15:20.06 | herlo | mgeary: UPHPUOTWOH |
| 15:21.40 | mgeary | jeeze, beandog, you don't have $35 for the conference? |
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| 15:22.30 | bwelker | i'm so sick of holding in my gut whenever a girl walks by... |
| 15:22.32 | bwelker | stupid girls |
| 15:22.49 | bwelker | if it weren't for them... |
| 15:23.46 | bwelker | lol |
| 15:26.14 | SunSparc | jbot, give mgeary a gut |
| 15:26.14 | jbot | ACTION gives a gut to mgeary |
| 15:28.14 | mgeary | whew |
| 15:29.25 | mindjuju | school on lockdown on account of a Ninja - http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/08/06/ninja-sighting-shuts-down_n_117348.html |
| 15:29.32 | josephscott | wordcamp utah registration is now open: http://joseph.randomnetworks.com/archives/2008/08/07/wordcamp-utah-registration-is-now-open/ |
| 15:30.33 | mgeary | dang, herlo, that's a strong lineup of presentations |
| 15:31.05 | *** topic/#UPHPU by mindjuju -> Last day Early bird for UTOS conference | http://utosc2008.eventbrite.com/ | Utah PHP Users Group | uphpu.org |
| 15:31.06 | mgeary | i just need to get a clone of me to cover things at the office for two days |
| 15:32.23 | mindjuju | mgeary, it's a saturday |
| 15:32.29 | mindjuju | not that I don't put in hours on Saturday, but... |
| 15:32.33 | mgeary | mindjuju: that's the third day |
| 15:33.03 | mindjuju | oh, i thought you meant wordcamp since that was your last comment |
| 15:33.22 | mindjuju | UTOS is 3 ACTION-PACKED days |
| 15:33.48 | mindjuju | like Lethal Weapon, but with programming and no Mel Gibson |
| 15:56.20 | macnewbold | ~rlart |
| 15:56.20 | jbot | cuts gibbawho into thin stripes |
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| 16:08.33 | herlo | mgeary: you should attend :) |
| 16:09.13 | mindjuju | yeah, everybody is doing it |
| 16:09.27 | mindjuju | it's trendy, hip and will help you on your taxes |
| 16:09.42 | mindjuju | increase revenue and could help with gout |
| 16:11.26 | macnewbold | yeah, and today is only $35! |
| 16:12.28 | herlo | tomorrow, $50 |
| 16:12.43 | mindjuju | fiddy bucks! A steal! |
| 16:12.50 | herlo | oh, and macnewbold will be the local keynote on thursday btw |
| 16:12.51 | mindjuju | at $35, it's criminal ! |
| 16:12.57 | herlo | lol |
| 16:14.52 | mindjuju | UTOS WITH macnewbold? surely the price is going to raise to offset that cost! |
| 16:15.00 | herlo | yep, tomororw |
| 16:15.03 | mindjuju | better get the tickets while they're going at this rate |
| 16:15.07 | herlo | to $50 with your lug discount |
| 16:25.11 | josephscott | herlo: session are 1 hour right? is the 1/2 hour in between for shuffling around? |
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| 16:26.06 | hsarumani | hi guys |
| 16:26.19 | hsarumani | anybody going defcon tonight or tomorrow morning? |
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| 16:28.11 | PoeticIntensity | ~ping herlo |
| 16:28.12 | jbot | pong herlo |
| 16:29.03 | PoeticIntensity | herlo, pm |
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| 16:57.44 | mgeary | herlo: the rate is $35 with early-bird and UPHP discount |
| 16:57.51 | mgeary | at least, that's what i'm seeing |
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| 17:25.59 | mindjuju | k, i need to ask something that heretical, blasphemous and quite egregious. It's likely that some or many of you might faint. The weak of heart should prolly just ignore me for the next few minutes |
| 17:26.30 | mindjuju | that said, has anybody here ever interfaced with an MS Word document, made mods to the document through php? |
| 17:27.03 | bwelker_ | BLASPHEMER |
| 17:27.11 | bwelker_ | no, i haven't |
| 17:27.33 | bwelker_ | i imagine it would be pretty hard |
| 17:28.00 | bwelker_ | you might want to look for a class out there in the intersphere that plays with Word docs |
| 17:28.00 | mindjuju | yeah, googling as we speak, see some com objects, though i see they aren't totally reliable |
| 17:28.45 | mindjuju | dexterthedragon, macnewbold or mgeary, have you guys ever done that? |
| 17:29.20 | bwelker | http://www.phpclasses.org/browse/package/2631.html |
| 17:30.22 | herlo | mgeary: yep, until tomorrow |
| 17:30.45 | swb | mindjuju, I haven't done that, but hmm, what about saving the docs as xml and editing them that way? |
| 17:31.00 | mindjuju | yeah, that would be cool, swb, except |
| 17:31.21 | mindjuju | they want the freakin footer to be locked down "no holds barred" - style so that nobody can ever change it |
| 17:31.27 | mindjuju | which apparently is a feature in MS Word |
| 17:31.36 | mindjuju | otherwise, this would absolutely be a non issue |
| 17:31.50 | swb | so, they can download, edit, and re-upload? |
| 17:32.08 | swb | what is your app trying to do exactly? |
| 17:33.24 | bwelker | well... unless you are using word, you can edit anything in the document, it's not password protected |
| 17:34.05 | mindjuju | swb, the app is full of text that needs to have some words replaced |
| 17:34.14 | mindjuju | namely $fname $lname |
| 17:34.21 | mindjuju | so i have a generic doc with those in it |
| 17:34.29 | mindjuju | have to replace them with SQL data |
| 17:34.39 | swb | so, when clients download the doc, they should get a customized version with a locked footer |
| 17:34.39 | mindjuju | it has that friggin' footer in there that has to remain locked down |
| 17:34.49 | mindjuju | yup, that's right |
| 17:34.56 | swb | hmm hmm hmm |
| 17:35.06 | swb | you can't code the locked footer part with xml? |
| 17:35.12 | swb | I have no idea |
| 17:35.46 | mindjuju | yeha, i think i'm pooched on this one, have to freakin' install MS word on the server, just to interact with it through COM |
| 17:35.47 | swb | sometimes you can reverse engineer them if you save as xml with a doc that has all the features you want included |
| 17:35.53 | swb | anyway, just an ida |
| 17:35.59 | swb | s/ida/idea |
| 17:36.51 | fungus | There's lots of tools for generating and reading RTF files, which Word handles well. |
| 17:37.50 | mindjuju | rtf would be cool, but don't think it comes with locked down footers |
| 17:38.01 | mindjuju | i'm checking though, just in case |
| 17:56.08 | PoeticIntensity | yo, mindjuju or herlo, where might I find the discount code for UPHPU users for the UTOS Conference? |
| 17:59.48 | PoeticIntensity | ^^^ nevermind. I found it in the backlog. |
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| 18:19.54 | PoeticIntensity | :) |
| 18:19.54 | mgeary | yeah |
| 18:20.01 | mgeary | trying to free up my schedule so i can |
| 18:20.04 | beandog | I think Im going to start giving my ulcers names after the programming languages that give them to me |
| 18:25.06 | mgeary | this is depressing: http://oilmoney.priceofoil.org/truemajority.php?zip=84604 |
| 18:27.21 | beandog | well we all knew hatch was an idiot |
| 18:27.26 | mgeary | yes |
| 18:27.33 | mgeary | but matheson isn't |
| 18:27.36 | dataw0lf | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luydcXrI6fk |
| 18:28.07 | dataw0lf | PoeticIntensity: going to UTOSC? |
| 18:28.16 | PoeticIntensity | AWWWWWW YEAH, BRO! |
| 18:28.17 | beandog | woah |
| 18:28.26 | PoeticIntensity | and I saw that you're teaching? |
| 18:28.45 | dataw0lf | I may be presenting, yes. |
| 18:29.19 | mgeary | i don't see you on the schedule... |
| 18:29.38 | mgeary | oh |
| 18:29.39 | mgeary | there you are |
| 18:29.49 | mgeary | ruby, eh? |
| 18:29.59 | PoeticIntensity | that's what I saw... |
| 18:31.00 | dataw0lf | Ruby's loose, lazy syntax is much, much better for BDD. |
| 18:31.41 | beandog | BDD? |
| 18:32.00 | mgeary | Behavior Driven Development |
| 18:32.06 | dataw0lf | behavior driven development. |
| 18:33.20 | mgeary | what level Ruby user are you targeting? i know pretty much zilch about it |
| 18:34.32 | dataw0lf | well, because of Ruby's loose syntax and how RSpec takes advantage of it, you really won't need much Ruby knowledge to take advantage of BDD's testing approach. |
| 18:39.31 | dataw0lf | really, BDD is a mindset and a modification in how you test, rather than a testing implementation or API spec. |
| 18:39.49 | beandog | testing? |
| 18:39.52 | beandog | that is advanced. |
| 18:47.32 | mgeary | so, what's the best way to get to the SLCC from Provo? Take Bangerter to Redwood Road? |
| 18:50.07 | fungus | I15 -> I-215 -> off at 4700S |
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| 18:53.56 | herlo | yep, its easy |
| 18:54.24 | herlo | mgeary: http://tinyurl.com/utosclodging |
| 18:54.46 | herlo | mgeary: I know you don't need a hotel, but that has more... |
| 19:30.08 | beandog | wtc |
| 19:30.12 | beandog | http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/news/Saber-Rider-Star-Sheriffs-DVDs-Planned/10262 |
| 19:30.17 | beandog | anyone ever heard of that one |
| 19:39.53 | mgeary | uhh, negatory |
| 19:41.49 | mindjuju | i have |
| 19:42.27 | mindjuju | it's got these dudes on these future motorcycles with a big star on their eye |
| 19:43.07 | beandog | I knew mindjuju would come through :) |
| 19:43.57 | mindjuju | sorry beandog, i failed ya :( |
| 19:44.04 | beandog | doh |
| 19:51.24 | jsmith | mindjuju: Was it you that was looking for color palettes a couple of weeks ago? |
| 19:51.32 | mindjuju | yup |
| 19:51.43 | mindjuju | you find something? |
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| 20:02.40 | beandog | mindjuju, agreed |
| 20:03.06 | beandog | or, phones |
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| 20:53.38 | orsonj | crazy people keep turning my computer off |
| 20:55.01 | SunSparc | ~lart crazy people |
| 20:55.01 | jbot | whacks crazy people with a giant beaver's tail |
| 20:58.44 | mgeary | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:59.42 | herlo | mgeary: for sure! |
| 21:00.00 | herlo | I'm working on directions, just not done yet, but they'll be on http://2008.utosc.com/pages/venue/ |
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| 21:54.14 | mgeary | so, i bought a couple of Morrissey albums off Amazon.com last night |
| 21:54.27 | mgeary | 2 used CDs in good condition for $11 including shipping. nice |
| 21:56.56 | mgeary | fungus: i bought Viva Hate and Bona Drag |
| 21:57.10 | mgeary | wait |
| 21:57.10 | mgeary | not |
| 21:57.16 | mgeary | not Bona Drag, Kill Uncle |
| 21:57.51 | fungus | I don't have Viva Hate or Kill Uncle yet. |
| 22:00.03 | orsonj | anyone see that slo-mo lightning video |
| 22:00.39 | mgeary | Viva Hate has most of the classics i associate with Morrissey: |
| 22:00.56 | mgeary | Suedehead, Everyday is like Sunday... |
| 22:01.13 | fungus | Oh yeah, I got a bunch of the single songs from there. |
| 22:01.35 | DexterTheDragon | orsonj: do share |
| 22:02.55 | orsonj | http://www.todaysbigthing.com/2008/08/07 |
| 22:03.19 | orsonj | reminds me of a breadth first search |
| 22:03.45 | DexterTheDragon | nice |
| 22:07.23 | mgeary | easy |
| 22:08.06 | mgeary | http://0.media.todaysbigthing.com/todaysbigthing/mf/1/3/todaysbigthing.bd634a616622fe8407d89e83a0ef4ea8.flv |
| 22:08.09 | mgeary | badda-bing |
| 22:08.12 | mgeary | you've got a flv |
| 22:08.18 | orsonj | nice |
| 22:08.39 | orsonj | what do you use to pick those out |
| 22:08.44 | mgeary | Safari |
| 22:08.56 | mgeary | it's Activity Monitor is the most !@#!@$ useful web tool in my toolbox |
| 22:09.16 | orsonj | cool |
| 22:09.17 | mgeary | it's one of the things that keeps bringing me back to Safari, over FF |
| 22:09.34 | mgeary | and yes, i'm aware of the plugins that ATTEMPT to repro the Activity Monitor, but they all suck |
| 22:12.14 | orsonj | I like tamperdata, but it doesn't seem to check on what flash, etc request. |
| 22:12.42 | mgeary | the latest Safari has some really nice debug tools. getting much closer to what Firebug offers |
| 22:12.50 | mgeary | which is the only thing that i really need FF for |
| 22:15.52 | thebigdog | same here Dx |
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| 23:06.41 | beandog | now_playing[Wheel In The Sky] length[0:44/4:14] |
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| 23:45.26 | timinator | I'm out.... later guys |