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| 05:20.54 | rzajac | hi |
| 05:21.22 | wps | hi |
| 05:21.41 | rzajac | when i return object from a function am i returning reference to the object or copy? php 5 |
| 05:22.28 | wps | I'm not sureâ¦Â sorry |
| 05:26.02 | rzajac | thats ok :) |
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| 13:56.28 | mindjuju | hey, what do you guys do load testing with? |
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| 14:02.18 | mindjuju | Utah_Dave -- you around? |
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| 14:13.37 | bwelker | hey mindjuju |
| 14:17.37 | Utah_Dave | mindjuju: yep! |
| 14:18.13 | Utah_Dave | mindjuju: what's up? |
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| 14:33.53 | mindjuju | heya gents |
| 14:34.02 | mindjuju | was wondering if you know a good load tester app |
| 14:34.15 | mindjuju | for win / apache |
| 14:38.19 | cycokilr | it's slower than apache on linux if that's what you were wondering.. |
| 14:39.33 | mindjuju | cycokilr - was actually looking more for, "Can this server, website, database, handle the load of X number clients hitting it concurrently?" |
| 14:39.45 | cycokilr | yeah i know.. i was just playing around.. |
| 14:40.13 | cycokilr | i stopped running databases on my web servers.. |
| 14:40.20 | cycokilr | that's the biggest hit you take right there.. |
| 14:41.01 | cycokilr | you'd be pretty hard pressed to kill any of the web servers around here these days.. |
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| 14:46.36 | mindjuju | wow, they are doing a remake of the Day the Earth Stood Still |
| 14:46.54 | mindjuju | and it's got Jennifer Connelly! Yipee! |
| 14:47.37 | bwelker | shes a hottie |
| 14:47.51 | mindjuju | heck yea |
| 14:47.51 | bwelker | and an amazing actress |
| 14:47.58 | mindjuju | oh yeah, that too |
| 14:48.06 | cycokilr | what? |
| 14:48.09 | bwelker | huh? what? acting? she acts? |
| 14:48.10 | cycokilr | you're kidding right? |
| 14:48.19 | bwelker | about which part? |
| 14:48.26 | cycokilr | amazing actress |
| 14:48.31 | cycokilr | i'll give you the hottie part.. |
| 14:48.31 | bwelker | ummm... she is |
| 14:48.35 | cycokilr | but she sucks at acting.. |
| 14:48.36 | mindjuju | she was awesome in Labyrinth and in Career Opportunities |
| 14:48.53 | cycokilr | kinda.. |
| 14:49.00 | cycokilr | but those were like 20 years ago too |
| 14:49.10 | mindjuju | oh |
| 14:49.14 | cycokilr | she has a very limited range.. |
| 14:49.38 | bwelker | requiem for a dream |
| 14:49.54 | bwelker | beautiful mind |
| 14:50.12 | cycokilr | yeah i can look up her movies on imdb myself.. |
| 14:50.27 | bwelker | i'm saying movies she was good in |
| 14:50.50 | cycokilr | oh i'm not saying she was never good.. i'm just disagreeing that she's an 'amazing actress' |
| 14:51.07 | bwelker | ok, you can keep your opinion, i'm not going to take it from you |
| 14:51.18 | cycokilr | she just has a limited range of parts she can play.. and you can tell quite easily when she's in one that doesn't work for her.. |
| 14:51.36 | cycokilr | she's actually won some awards even.. |
| 14:52.22 | bwelker | but she's still crazy hot |
| 14:52.30 | cycokilr | that she is.. |
| 14:52.35 | bwelker | =) |
| 14:52.45 | mindjuju | haven't seen her in anything current |
| 14:52.50 | cycokilr | hulk? |
| 14:52.56 | mindjuju | nope |
| 14:53.01 | cycokilr | :( |
| 14:53.08 | bwelker | blood diamond |
| 14:53.15 | mindjuju | just hadn't had time to see many movies lately |
| 14:53.22 | mindjuju | nope on the blood diamonds |
| 14:54.29 | mindjuju | these pics of comic-con are hilarious - http://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/chi-080726-comic-con-pg,0,3161956.photogallery |
| 14:59.05 | mindjuju | Everybody run for the hills! It's the attack of the Tasers! - http://rawstory.com//news/2008/Missouri_Police_taser_injured_boy_19_0726.html |
| 14:59.28 | mindjuju | that's nuts, boy with broken back gets Tasered into submission? he had a freakin broken back! |
| 15:00.13 | bwelker | seriously |
| 15:01.08 | mindjuju | i'm going to find what it takes to run the voltage back to the sender and start wearing that |
| 15:02.26 | mindjuju | cool! - http://blog.wired.com/defense/2007/11/introducing-tas.html |
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| 15:07.08 | mindjuju | you know, seeing their patent application for the anti-energy weapons clothing gives me an idea |
| 15:09.01 | mindjuju | you should do what they suggest in the patent application, but add some LED bulbs to spell out some kind of retort possibly with an expletive, every time they zap you, it powers the LEDs and keeps you safe |
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| 15:17.16 | dragonOfTheWest | mindjuju: for load testing we use jmeter |
| 15:18.32 | mindjuju | dragonOfTheWest - that looks pretty cool |
| 15:19.02 | dragonOfTheWest | mindjuju: yeah, and it's not bad to set up. |
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| 16:36.09 | mgeary | hi folks |
| 16:36.16 | mgeary | got a redirect question for ya |
| 16:37.12 | mgeary | a client has apparently been consulting with an "SEO expert", and they've come back with this: "Redirect www.mysite.com/index.htm to www.mysite.com" |
| 16:37.42 | PoeticIntensity | wha..? |
| 16:37.48 | mgeary | nice, eh? |
| 16:38.06 | PoeticIntensity | we should invite this "expert" to this little IRC room... |
| 16:38.13 | PoeticIntensity | could be highly entertaining. |
| 16:38.22 | mgeary | i tried the easy way out by adding this to the virtual host config: |
| 16:38.23 | mgeary | Redirect permanent /index.htm http://www.mysite.com/ |
| 16:38.33 | mgeary | but that goes into an infinite redirect loop |
| 16:38.49 | PoeticIntensity | which makes sense... |
| 16:38.53 | mgeary | will mod_rewrite give me any different results? |
| 16:39.17 | mgeary | i assume the point here is that they want to consolidate their homepage hits under one address for reporting purposes |
| 16:39.49 | PoeticIntensity | have you tried 302 redirects? |
| 16:40.05 | PoeticIntensity | header("Location: ./"); |
| 16:40.15 | timinator | never used mod_rewrite?!?! |
| 16:40.16 | mgeary | this can't be solved with php |
| 16:40.18 | timinator | holy moly |
| 16:40.18 | PoeticIntensity | (if the URI = index.html, or whatever...?) |
| 16:40.23 | mgeary | has to be solved at the apache level |
| 16:40.27 | PoeticIntensity | I see. |
| 16:40.30 | mgeary | oh, i see what you're saying |
| 16:40.44 | mgeary | yeah, i guess i could sniff out the REQUEST_URI |
| 16:40.46 | mgeary | meh |
| 16:41.38 | PoeticIntensity | I'd be interested to know if it works... |
| 16:41.50 | PoeticIntensity | seems to me, it would. |
| 16:42.27 | Utah_Dave | mindjuju: sorry I missed you earlier |
| 16:42.32 | PoeticIntensity | @ timinator, I've never had to use it.... |
| 16:42.41 | timinator | I'm JK man |
| 16:42.48 | timinator | just razzin' ya |
| 16:42.59 | PoeticIntensity | nah... not offended... Just haven't had the need to make my URLs pretty. :) |
| 16:43.10 | timinator | it's pretty cool though |
| 16:43.16 | PoeticIntensity | although it definitely would not be a bad idea. |
| 16:43.34 | PoeticIntensity | and I've played around with the idea, but just haven't actually used it yet... :-| |
| 16:43.40 | timinator | handy to pushing traffic to other domains or servers or to pages when they request files directly |
| 16:43.41 | timinator | etc |
| 16:44.11 | PoeticIntensity | so I've heard. |
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| 16:47.50 | timinator | could try one.... don't know if it would make another infinite loop, but I bet it'd work |
| 16:47.56 | swb | mgeary, my index.php is redirected |
| 16:48.00 | timinator | RewriteEngine on |
| 16:48.00 | swb | RewriteCond %{THE_REQUEST} ^[A-Z]{3,9}\ /.*index\.php?\ HTTP/ [NC] |
| 16:48.34 | swb | RewriteRule ^(.*)index.php?$ http://www.example.com/$1 [R=301,L] |
| 16:48.59 | swb | oh, sry timinator, was talking over you |
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| 16:49.02 | timinator | RewriteRule ^/index.htm$ http://www.example.com/$1....... |
| 16:49.03 | timinator | ya |
| 16:49.05 | timinator | exactly |
| 16:49.07 | timinator | np |
| 16:53.00 | timinator | it's good to see ya swb.... thought you were moving to the big city, and would find some other PHP group to hang out with |
| 16:53.26 | timinator | <cool |
| 16:53.30 | timinator | but close to home |
| 16:53.31 | timinator | :) |
| 16:54.24 | swb | moving, but not to the big city |
| 16:54.36 | swb | NY state ;) |
| 16:54.50 | wps | swb, you moved to NY? |
| 16:54.51 | timinator | oh |
| 16:54.57 | swb | moving |
| 16:55.00 | wps | wow |
| 16:55.03 | swb | as in house is for sale |
| 16:55.12 | timinator | obviously NY State != NY City |
| 16:55.16 | timinator | I'm an idiot |
| 16:55.33 | _psychic_ | NY is pretty |
| 16:55.46 | swb | Adirondacks |
| 16:55.46 | SunSparc | Very pretty |
| 16:55.48 | macnewbold | ~mourn swb |
| 16:55.49 | jbot | ACTION lights some candles for swb |
| 16:55.52 | timinator | is your hubbie already up there? |
| 16:55.53 | _psychic_ | Winters can be wild though |
| 16:55.54 | swb | awww |
| 16:55.57 | timinator | didn't he get a job up there? |
| 16:56.00 | _psychic_ | Just ask the locals what a noreaster is. :) |
| 16:56.20 | PoeticIntensity | my parents lived in Boston for a bit.. |
| 16:56.28 | swb | timinator, he just accepted a position |
| 16:56.33 | timinator | ah |
| 16:56.34 | swb | will start end of August |
| 16:56.34 | PoeticIntensity | They hated the noreasters.... |
| 16:56.35 | timinator | cool |
| 16:56.53 | swb | :) |
| 17:02.05 | thebigdog | mgeary, the 2 apache mods you probably want to mess around with are mod_dir and mod_autoindex |
| 17:04.17 | thebigdog | but the issue is that you are going to see looping unless you break it with another file |
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| 17:14.45 | timinator | thebigdog knows all |
| 17:14.52 | timinator | ~flip thebigdog |
| 17:14.53 | jbot | ACTION gives thebigdog the .|.. ..|. |
| 17:15.03 | thebigdog | ~flip timinator |
| 17:15.04 | jbot | ACTION gives timinator the .|.. ..|. |
| 17:15.14 | timinator | :) |
| 17:15.16 | thebigdog | i dont know mac as much as i would like ;( |
| 17:15.27 | timinator | :( |
| 17:15.31 | thebigdog | but i am learning marketing now...which kinda sucks |
| 17:15.34 | timinator | what are you having probs w/? |
| 17:16.00 | thebigdog | oh nothing just learning more and more about it |
| 17:16.17 | timinator | are you liking it? |
| 17:16.20 | thebigdog | been studying up on it and reading about it |
| 17:16.25 | thebigdog | not too much |
| 17:17.16 | timinator | seriously? I'm sorry I recommended it then, bro. |
| 17:19.09 | timinator | seems like the best of both worlds.... super easy to use for common, basic things... then you can jump into the terminal for anything heavy duty. |
| 17:19.19 | timinator | PC emulator for any PC only apps |
| 17:19.37 | timinator | and X or terminal for any Linux stuff |
| 17:19.59 | timinator | not to mention, the hardware is supa-sexy |
| 17:20.15 | timinator | *shrug |
| 17:21.17 | thebigdog | yeah i just need to spend more time on it...i find my self always in the terminal anyways |
| 17:35.07 | mgeary | ok |
| 17:35.14 | mgeary | i'm off the phone and getting back into this index redirection |
| 17:35.20 | mgeary | why would this: |
| 17:35.21 | mgeary | RewriteRule ^/index\.htm$ / |
| 17:35.23 | mgeary | redirect to: |
| 17:35.31 | mgeary | www.mysite.com/index.htm/ |
| 17:35.37 | mgeary | ? |
| 17:36.16 | tierra | do you have a RewriteBase statement before that? |
| 17:36.23 | mgeary | no |
| 17:36.54 | tierra | what are the options on that rule? |
| 17:37.16 | mgeary | none specified |
| 17:37.39 | tierra | if you don't at least have [L] on it, rules beyond that one will still be processed |
| 17:38.47 | mgeary | adding [L] had no effect. no other rules are being defined |
| 17:38.49 | tierra | which could also me DirectoryIndex processing or something being added on to the redirect or something weird like that |
| 17:39.11 | tierra | maybe try also adding an appropriate redirection code too |
| 17:39.21 | tierra | like [R=301,L] |
| 17:39.37 | thebigdog | mgeary, cause you have mod_dir |
| 17:40.09 | thebigdog | mod_dir does a redirect for you |
| 17:40.17 | mgeary | hrm |
| 17:40.53 | mgeary | so, suggestions? All i need is for /index.htm to redirect to / |
| 17:41.10 | thebigdog | which mod_dir redirects / to /index.htm |
| 17:41.16 | thebigdog | which will give you a loop |
| 17:41.40 | mgeary | although http://www.mysite.com/ comes up just fine, so that redirect is basically a proxying |
| 17:41.51 | swb | mgeary, this should work: |
| 17:41.52 | swb | RewriteCond %{THE_REQUEST} ^[A-Z]{3,9}\ /.*index\.htm?\ HTTP/ [NC] |
| 17:41.53 | swb | RewriteRule ^(.*)index.htm?$ http://www.example.com/$1 [R=301,L] |
| 17:42.00 | thebigdog | that is a mod_dir redirect |
| 17:42.27 | thebigdog | do this: RewriteRule ^(.*)index.htm?$ http://www.example.com [R=301,L] |
| 17:42.49 | thebigdog | then mod_dir will pick up the domain and redirect it |
| 17:43.11 | thebigdog | but if you have tracking code on the index.htm page you are going to double it |
| 17:43.20 | thebigdog | which will give some false positives |
| 17:43.22 | mgeary | yeah |
| 17:43.25 | mgeary | i've told them that |
| 17:45.48 | thebigdog | but i'm not sure what they are trying to solve buy accessing the domain name only...imho that has no bearing on seo |
| 17:45.56 | mgeary | agreed |
| 17:46.05 | mgeary | swb, thebigdog that rewrite rule worked. Thanks! |
| 17:46.50 | thebigdog | fyi that page is now slower |
| 17:47.17 | mgeary | you mean because of the redirect? |
| 17:47.21 | thebigdog | yeah |
| 17:47.23 | mgeary | yeah |
| 17:47.30 | thebigdog | that duplicates what mod_dir does |
| 17:48.07 | thebigdog | actually augmented the process really |
| 17:48.48 | thebigdog | but i guess if the customer wants it then just give it to them...if they dont heed your advice then that is there issue and not yours |
| 17:48.53 | swb | but, hopefully, all the references to index.php will get dumped |
| 17:48.59 | mgeary | thebigdog: the tracking code for the index.htm page shouldn't be duplicated, because the redirect is happening before the JS loads... |
| 17:49.12 | swb | will it still load slower if they go straight to / ? |
| 17:49.15 | thebigdog | hopefully |
| 17:49.40 | thebigdog | no but mod_dir does a redirect to /index.htm |
| 17:49.47 | thebigdog | or whatever you have for the mod_autoindex |
| 17:50.00 | thebigdog | it checks for those files in the list and uses the first one |
| 17:50.49 | swb | btw, it is a good SEO practice to remove the index.html and to choose www or non-www |
| 17:50.52 | swb | http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/seo-advice-url-canonicalization/ |
| 17:51.17 | swb | :) |
| 17:53.01 | timinator | BRB |
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| 17:55.46 | thebigdog | swb i think the big thing is being consistent with what you use for accessing your site. but again you probably dont want to reference a direct file cause that might change |
| 17:56.19 | thebigdog | for example i never access home via /index.html |
| 17:56.30 | thebigdog | i tend to always use / |
| 17:56.38 | thebigdog | so that i let apache handle that for me |
| 17:59.13 | thebigdog | i also sometimes use the base tag too for this |
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| 18:18.57 | orsonj | I suppose they want to avoid duplication of content at different urls |
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| 18:23.57 | mgeary | i totally feel this way about my Weed Whacker sometimes: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080726/ap_on_fe_st/odd_mower_madness |
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| 18:32.02 | mindjuju | thebigdog, i have some really important news for you, like more important that the info on the DNS exploit that is in the wild for that DNS issue we talked about a couple of days ago |
| 18:32.08 | mindjuju | you there? |
| 18:43.41 | tierra | that's pretty important ;) |
| 18:44.32 | mindjuju | tierra, wasn't going to post it until he came back, but seeing as how you're prolly failure with it also, i'll post it for ya |
| 18:44.33 | mindjuju | http://geeksofdoom.com/2008/07/26/sdcc-08-sam-raimi-to-do-evil-dead-4/ |
| 18:44.58 | mindjuju | oops, meant familiar, not failure |
| 18:45.04 | tierra | oh, nice |
| 18:45.07 | tierra | :) |
| 18:45.21 | tierra | I know someone who will love to hear this |
| 18:45.24 | mindjuju | yup, like i says, way more important than the DNS sploit |
| 18:48.27 | mindjuju | poor www.cuil.com, if you want to be a google killer and send out PR to that affect, uh... your page has to work! |
| 18:56.55 | thebigdog | mindjuju, im back |
| 18:57.06 | mindjuju | thebigdog - http://geeksofdoom.com/2008/07/26/sdcc-08-sam-raimi-to-do-evil-dead-4/ |
| 18:57.14 | thebigdog | cuil sucks thoght...i typed in zebra and go no results |
| 18:58.00 | mindjuju | yeah, cuil down, it did pull up some interesting things for turkey, like the food, the country, some history on country etc |
| 18:58.09 | mindjuju | but that is the only query that worked before it failed |
| 18:58.13 | tierra | either way, it's good to have an alternative, equivalently powerful search engine to search with when one or the other isn't helpful |
| 18:59.04 | mindjuju | tierra, true that, i just dislike when people go around saying "[proper noun here] - killer" |
| 18:59.20 | mindjuju | iPhone killer cell phones, Google-killer app |
| 18:59.22 | mindjuju | etc |
| 18:59.29 | tierra | yeah |
| 18:59.56 | mindjuju | synic |
| 19:00.11 | synic | mind freakin juju |
| 19:00.12 | mindjuju | are you listening to ravetrax.com? they've got the new hybrid on, it's REALLY good |
| 19:00.33 | synic | wait a minute |
| 19:00.35 | synic | there's new hybrid? |
| 19:00.42 | mindjuju | yeah, called soundsystem |
| 19:00.49 | mindjuju | it's way good |
| 19:01.06 | synic | oh man, they're on cd2 |
| 19:01.13 | mindjuju | yeah, i noticed |
| 19:01.14 | synic | wonder if amazon has it |
| 19:01.30 | mindjuju | i'm on their site now to see about where to purchase - http://www.hybridsoundsystem.com/index.php |
| 19:01.32 | tierra | "We've only been live for twelve hours," Sollitto said, and traffic has spiked beyond their expectations. In other Web 2.0 launches, a traffic spike would slow down or crash the service, but in Cuil's architecture, the spike affected results, not speed. |
| 19:01.39 | mindjuju | their I choose noise though, was amazing |
| 19:02.28 | mindjuju | tierra, that's hilarious, i should post that quote and a screen shot of the "unavailable page" error to failblog |
| 19:03.47 | tierra | well, if results were going bad, I'm sure they'd rather have an 'unavailable' page up than people searching, and assuming that their crappy search results were because their engine sucked |
| 19:04.02 | mindjuju | true |
| 19:05.12 | thebigdog | mindjuju, that is great news about the evil dead |
| 19:05.12 | mindjuju | yup |
| 19:05.12 | mindjuju | would love to see another movie |
| 19:05.12 | mindjuju | did you see the bootleg trailer for tr2n from comic-con? |
| 19:05.39 | mindjuju | here it is, for anybody who hasn't seen it yet |
| 19:05.40 | mindjuju | http://gizmodo.com/5029479/tron-2-trailer-video-makes-pants-wet-worldwide |
| 19:05.51 | mindjuju | and pay v close attention to see how the instantiate the light cycle |
| 19:05.53 | mindjuju | v cool |
| 19:15.06 | thebigdog | yeah it looks really good |
| 19:15.26 | mindjuju | that new tron? |
| 19:15.31 | mindjuju | yeah, awesome |
| 19:26.44 | SunSparc | Wow, that Tr2n looks SWEET! |
| 19:26.50 | SunSparc | I am excited. |
| 19:27.41 | mindjuju | has anybody talked to orsonj recently? |
| 19:27.59 | orsonj | nope, I've just poked my head in now and again |
| 19:28.01 | mindjuju | oh hey, by the way, AFAIK, this is first time we've hit 40 peeps in the channel |
| 19:28.10 | mindjuju | orsonj, what's the details on the new baby? |
| 19:28.13 | mindjuju | any pics? |
| 19:28.41 | orsonj | working on it. camera and computer had problems commnicating. haven't got them all copied yet |
| 19:28.52 | SunSparc | Cute little guy |
| 19:29.15 | mindjuju | SunSparc - any pics? |
| 19:29.31 | SunSparc | http://picasaweb.google.com/jknacnud/LightningStrikes |
| 19:29.59 | orsonj | boy: 8lb 3oz, 20in, friday 25th, Indiana Ray Jones |
| 19:30.35 | SunSparc | Wow, same weight as mine. |
| 19:30.40 | mindjuju | awesome pics SunSparc! |
| 19:31.09 | SunSparc | orsonj: Indiana Jones? Really? That is awesome! |
| 19:31.12 | SunSparc | mindjuju: Thanks. |
| 19:33.01 | orsonj | now, when future employers decide to google him... |
| 19:33.12 | SunSparc | hehe |
| 19:33.35 | SunSparc | Did your wife put up a fight on that one? |
| 19:33.45 | SunSparc | My wife would never have let that one through. |
| 19:34.38 | orsonj | nope, she liked it from the start |
| 19:34.56 | orsonj | she also let me have a girl for my best man |
| 19:35.33 | SunSparc | Nice |
| 19:35.34 | SunSparc | :) |
| 19:51.50 | Utah_Dave | mindjuju: cuil.com is back up |
| 19:52.19 | timinator | that's awesome.... congrats SunSparc |
| 19:52.26 | mgeary | uhhh |
| 19:52.32 | mgeary | i mean awwwww |
| 19:52.36 | mgeary | cute lil bugger |
| 19:53.03 | SunSparc | hehe |
| 19:53.05 | SunSparc | Thanks guys. |
| 19:53.32 | SunSparc | Utah_Dave: looks like cuil is a google competitor? |
| 19:56.09 | Utah_Dave | trying |
| 19:56.23 | orsonj | needs more google sized horespower though |
| 19:56.31 | Utah_Dave | congrats on the baby, SunSparc |
| 19:56.40 | orsonj | s/hores/horse/ |
| 19:56.56 | mgeary | ...and congrats to orsonj |
| 19:57.13 | orsonj | thanks |
| 19:57.26 | orsonj | when did yours come SunSparc? |
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| 20:11.27 | SunSparc | Thanks Utah_Dave |
| 20:11.36 | SunSparc | orsonj: Last Tuesday |
| 20:12.11 | SunSparc | Seems like we are having a baby boom right now. |
| 20:13.16 | orsonj | heh, anyone else have some recently |
| 20:13.38 | SunSparc | Our ward is having 3 baby blessings next Sunday |
| 20:13.56 | SunSparc | And there are still more to come. |
| 20:14.01 | orsonj | another in my ward had theirs the same day as us |
| 20:14.13 | wps | people like to reproduce |
| 20:14.24 | SunSparc | wps: Apparently. |
| 20:14.29 | SunSparc | Must be something in the water |
| 20:15.03 | orsonj | probably, given the birth rates. |
| 20:15.26 | SunSparc | I heard that UVRMC alone had more than 400 births last month. |
| 20:17.21 | Utah_Dave | My wife gave birth to our first baby 2 months ago |
| 20:17.25 | thebigdog | i know that the facility that my wifes goes to those doctors deliver over 600 a year iirc |
| 20:17.47 | SunSparc | Utah_Dave: Congrats |
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| 20:34.51 | swb | congrats SunSparc, orsonj & Utah_Dave |
| 20:50.06 | orsonj | well, photos will have to wait a little longer, google and this hospital wifi aren't cooperating |
| 20:58.45 | wps | INSERT into mktg_db.enhance_leads set el_name='Wade\'s Test 1', el_email='wshearer@omniture.com', el_file='1217278707.csv', el_alexa=1, el_codescrape=1, el_created=now(), el_status=5 |
| 20:58.49 | wps | this query is dying |
| 20:58.59 | wps | it doesn't like the escape for el_name |
| 20:59.08 | wps | isn't it sufficient to escape it like that? |
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| 20:59.23 | orsonj | 'Wade''s Test 1' |
| 20:59.33 | orsonj | me thinks anyway |
| 20:59.41 | wps | what? |
| 21:00.00 | orsonj | two quotes instead of an escaped one? |
| 21:00.10 | mgeary | wps: are you using mysql_real_escape_string? |
| 21:00.13 | wps | I should use two quotes instead of an escaped one? |
| 21:00.14 | orsonj | some do it that way |
| 21:00.23 | wps | I was using addslashes |
| 21:00.27 | mgeary | no |
| 21:00.31 | mgeary | just use that ^^ |
| 21:00.35 | mgeary | or the mysqli version |
| 21:00.48 | wps | I wasn't familiar with mysql_real_escape_string() |
| 21:00.49 | wps | I'll try that |
| 21:05.28 | wps | that function turns my variable into blank |
| 21:05.50 | mgeary | ? |
| 21:05.55 | mgeary | how are you calling it? |
| 21:06.19 | wps | http://rafb.net/p/vfCden36.html |
| 21:06.41 | mgeary | dude |
| 21:06.41 | SunSparc | swb: Thanks :) |
| 21:07.11 | mgeary | do you get paid for every line of code you can omit? ;) |
| 21:07.19 | swb | :) |
| 21:07.48 | mgeary | i'd do it this way: |
| 21:08.03 | wps | you don't like the ternary? |
| 21:08.11 | mgeary | not just that |
| 21:08.55 | mgeary | wps: get ready for some much prettier code |
| 21:10.59 | mgeary | http://rafb.net/p/50bUbI97.html |
| 21:11.12 | mgeary | now, i haven't really changed anything |
| 21:11.17 | mgeary | does that still output a blank? |
| 21:11.28 | mgeary | (i just changed it so i could actually read the code) ;) |
| 21:13.41 | wps | yes, this is what it returns: |
| 21:13.41 | wps | INSERT into mktg_db.enhance_leads set el_name='', el_email='', el_file='', el_alexa=1, el_codescrape=1, el_created=NOW(), el_status=5 |
| 21:13.51 | wps | (err, that is $query echoed out) |
| 21:13.57 | PoeticIntensity | ~ping macnewbold |
| 21:13.58 | jbot | pong macnewbold |
| 21:14.32 | PoeticIntensity | macnewbold, PM sent |
| 21:14.46 | mgeary | wps: that's pretty weird. you've var_dump()'d the $_POST array to confirm that the values are being passed? |
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| 21:15.04 | wps | if I removed mysql_real_escape_string() the values are there |
| 21:15.08 | macnewbold | ~pong PoeticIntensity |
| 21:15.08 | jbot | PoeticIntensity: PONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 21:15.30 | wps | INSERT into mktg_db.enhance_leads set el_name='Wade's Test 1', el_email='wshearer@omniture.com', el_file='1217279721.csv', el_alexa=1, el_codescrape=1, el_created=NOW(), el_status=5 |
| 21:20.11 | thebigdog | wps you have any magic quotes on |
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| 21:21.15 | thebigdog | mgeary, i like to use sprintf for my queries...i'm suprised wps does not do that since i did it a ton ona project |
| 21:21.23 | thebigdog | ;) |
| 21:27.18 | wps | phpinfo() says that magic quotes is off |
| 21:27.39 | wps | http://screencast.com/t/DYfkAZlAmsV |
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| 21:31.18 | bwelker | mysql_real_excape _string sometimes doesn't work without a mysql connection |
| 21:31.54 | wps | kâ¦Â I'll try it all the way then instead of just printing out the query |
| 21:32.22 | wps | nopeâ¦Â still truncates that var to nothing |
| 21:32.44 | mgeary | wps: do you have mysqli ? |
| 21:32.50 | bwelker | are any warnings being thrown |
| 21:33.54 | wps | what is mysqli? |
| 21:34.02 | mgeary | oop mysql. it's better :) |
| 21:34.08 | bwelker | aparently not |
| 21:35.39 | SunSparc | ~mysqli |
| 21:35.51 | mgeary | jbot, mysqli is teh bomb |
| 21:35.52 | jbot | mgeary: okay |
| 21:36.12 | SunSparc | jbot, mysqli is also http://us.php.net/mysqli |
| 21:36.12 | jbot | okay, SunSparc |
| 21:36.12 | DexterDerDrache | wps: what's the character set in those vars? |
| 21:36.43 | wps | utf8 |
| 21:37.13 | DexterDerDrache | make sure the database is in utf8 and that your mysql connection is in utf8 |
| 21:37.27 | DexterDerDrache | mysql_real_escape_string is charset aware |
| 21:38.41 | bwelker | if all else fails, you can use addslashes, but it's not as good |
| 21:38.56 | mgeary | but it really shouldn't be failing |
| 21:39.04 | bwelker | or mysql_excape_string, which is depricated |
| 21:39.20 | bwelker | s/excape/escape/ |
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| 22:14.43 | Jacob_Kerr | Hey guys I am currently unemployed and working freelance. I am an desperate need for a full time job, so if anyone knows of any moderate PHP / MySQL or any Web Design / Internet Marketing position open the please let me know :) |
| 22:15.33 | Jacob_Kerr | Moderate PHP / MySQL advanced Web Design and Internet Marketing. |
| 22:15.49 | DexterDerDrache | Jacob_Kerr: http://uphpu.org/pipermail/uphpu-jobs/ ;) |
| 22:15.55 | wps | omniture is hiring: http://uphpu.org/pipermail/uphpu-jobs/2007-December/000149.html |
| 22:16.08 | Jacob_Kerr | thanx :) |
| 22:18.09 | bradym | we're always hiring, but it's in the Bay Area.. |
| 22:24.36 | Jacob_Kerr | Bay Area? |
| 22:25.32 | bradym | San Francisco Bay Area |
| 22:25.38 | Jacob_Kerr | Oh I c. |
| 22:26.13 | Jacob_Kerr | Relocation... Tempting, but I should'nt.. |
| 22:27.03 | bradym | well, let me know if you decide you want to look into it :) |
| 22:27.22 | Jacob_Kerr | K, thanx. |
| 22:54.37 | bwelker | anybody using windows? |
| 22:55.09 | thebigdog | unfortunately i am |
| 22:55.21 | bwelker | what irc client do you use? |
| 22:55.27 | thebigdog | xchat |
| 22:55.31 | bwelker | i'm trying to find a good one |
| 22:55.53 | bwelker | one that has username colors, and will only flash at me when my name is used in conversation |
| 22:55.53 | thebigdog | it costs $$$ for the windows version |
| 22:55.59 | bwelker | for xchat? |
| 22:56.03 | thebigdog | yeah |
| 22:56.03 | bwelker | i thought it was free |
| 22:56.08 | thebigdog | the linux one is free |
| 22:56.10 | thebigdog | not anymroe |
| 22:56.14 | SunSparc | bwelker: Have you tried Trillian or Gaim? |
| 22:56.18 | thebigdog | but i paid for a 1x license |
| 22:56.30 | bwelker | http://www.silverex.org/news/ |
| 22:56.34 | bwelker | looks free to me |
| 22:56.47 | SunSparc | bwelker: Then again, there is always mIRC |
| 22:56.48 | bwelker | ahhh |
| 22:56.50 | bwelker | two version |
| 22:56.58 | bwelker | which is also not free |
| 22:57.31 | bwelker | i have pidgin, but it likes to put all my conversations in one window, including the irc one, which gets closed by accident all the time |
| 22:57.43 | bwelker | but i like it |
| 22:58.04 | SunSparc | bwelker: Here is a free, multi-platform IRC client http://www.mibbit.com/ |
| 22:58.42 | bwelker | thanks, but i'd rather have an offline program |
| 22:58.58 | bwelker | one i don't have to have a browser open to use |
| 22:59.33 | SunSparc | bwelker: I used to use one called Pirch when I was in Windows, but they have renamed it: http://www.vortecirc.com/index.php |
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| 23:07.52 | bwelker | hey, i've got like $5 in there |
| 23:08.02 | SunSparc | heh |
| 23:08.10 | timinator | Mac++ |
| 23:08.15 | timinator | ~Mac++ |
| 23:08.17 | bwelker | i'll use them to buy me a $5 footlong at quiznos, cuz I don't want a mac |
| 23:08.39 | timinator | ~MBP++ |
| 23:08.46 | bwelker | ~MBP |
| 23:08.47 | jbot | hmm... mbp is MacBook Pro, the must-have accessory for any serious Web Developer |
| 23:08.58 | mgeary | ~stevejobsify bwelker |
| 23:08.59 | jbot | ACTION drags bwelker by the scruff of the neck and plants him in front row center of the Moscone Center at the peak of Steve Jobs' keynote address until bwelkers eyes glaze over and he calms down |
| 23:09.00 | timinator | see, even jbot knows |
| 23:09.02 | bwelker | web designer, maybe |
| 23:09.06 | mgeary | BAH!!! |
| 23:09.25 | mgeary | ~lart bwelker for subscribing to the "macs are for artsy people" argument |
| 23:09.26 | jbot | crushes bwelker for subscribing to the "macs are with a full height scsi disk for artsy people" argument |
| 23:09.34 | mgeary | WTC? |
| 23:09.34 | bwelker | mac people ar all about the vector brushes in PS |
| 23:10.24 | bwelker | and the myriad of layer blending modes |
| 23:10.48 | timinator | as he pounds out more code on his MBP |
| 23:10.49 | mgeary | Mac people are all about running 3 platforms at the same time and having access to a myriad of great software |
| 23:10.59 | mgeary | esp. OSS software |
| 23:11.09 | timinator | ~OSS++ |
| 23:11.21 | bwelker | for the low low price of an arm and a leg |
| 23:11.24 | mgeary | psh |
| 23:11.40 | mgeary | ~lart bwelker for subscribing to the "Macs are expensive" straw man argument |
| 23:11.40 | jbot | holds bwelker to the floor and spanks him with a cat-o-nine-tails for subscribing to the "Macs are expensive" straw man argument |
| 23:11.47 | bwelker | and what happens if your hard drive makes fun noises |
| 23:12.10 | timinator | I've never had a HD make funny noises on any of my macs..... |
| 23:12.17 | bwelker | ~lart mgeary for larting my subscriptions |
| 23:12.18 | jbot | pulls out his louisville slugger and uses mgeary's head to break the homerun record for larting my subscriptions |
| 23:12.19 | timinator | but had to replace several PCs |
| 23:12.56 | timinator | s/PCs/PC Hard Drives/ |
| 23:13.08 | bwelker | if somebody gave me a mac, i wouldn't say no, and i'd probably use it, but i don't think i'd ever buy one on purpose |
| 23:13.27 | timinator | psh |
| 23:13.42 | unum | they mostly have the same hardware now |
| 23:14.15 | bwelker | ~psh is timinator's favorite word, much like mgeary's kk |
| 23:14.15 | jbot | ...but psh is already something else... |
| 23:14.24 | unum | all the max users I know are either lug member or artists of some type |
| 23:14.45 | bwelker | ~psh is also timinator's favorite word, much like mgeary's kk |
| 23:14.46 | jbot | okay, bwelker |
| 23:14.49 | bwelker | ~psh |
| 23:14.50 | jbot | Tooltips for the UNIX shell. URL: http://users.gtn.net/fraserm/psh.html, or timinator's favorite word, much like mgeary's kk |
| 23:15.57 | SunSparc | hehe |
| 23:18.22 | bwelker | the unix people stay unix people, the mac people stay mac people, and the windows people stay windows people |
| 23:18.35 | mgeary | not so |
| 23:18.48 | mgeary | i've seen literally dozens of Windows people become Mac people over the last couple of years |
| 23:18.49 | bwelker | the republicans stay republican, the democrats stay democrat, and everybody leaves angry |
| 23:19.54 | SunSparc | Actually, I started as a Commodore 128 person |
| 23:19.55 | SunSparc | ;) |
| 23:20.17 | bwelker | ok, well, i started as a Texas Instruments TI-99 |
| 23:20.19 | bwelker | person |
| 23:20.33 | SunSparc | Actually, I started as an Atari person. Anyone remember Logo? |
| 23:20.39 | bwelker | basic |
| 23:21.26 | bwelker | i loved that game |
| 23:21.56 | SunSparc | http://el.media.mit.edu/logo-foundation/logo/turtle.html |
| 23:21.57 | bwelker | logo i mean |
| 23:22.19 | mgeary | bwelker: i believe you mean the TI-99 4a, no? |
| 23:22.24 | mgeary | remember Parsec? |
| 23:22.26 | bwelker | yeah |
| 23:22.30 | mgeary | that was a hard game |
| 23:22.32 | bwelker | parsec = rad |
| 23:22.37 | bwelker | yes it was |
| 23:22.44 | bwelker | there is an online version |
| 23:22.50 | mgeary | sweet |
| 23:22.54 | SunSparc | Remember Spy Hunter? |
| 23:23.02 | mgeary | i remember the arcade version |
| 23:23.04 | bwelker | didn't have that one |
| 23:23.16 | mgeary | i only ever(!) had Parsec on the TI |
| 23:24.03 | bwelker | i had quite a few |
| 23:24.09 | mgeary | i still have my TI |
| 23:24.17 | mgeary | afaik it works |
| 23:24.39 | bwelker | moon patrol, hunt the wumpus, parsec, a weird racing one, and a few other i can't remember |
| 23:24.54 | mgeary | though apparently it's not worth much: |
| 23:24.57 | mgeary | http://cgi.ebay.com/Texas-Instruments-TI-99-4A-PC-w-Speech-24-Programs_W0QQitemZ260267392510QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item260267392510&_trksid=p3286.m14.l1318 |
| 23:25.03 | bwelker | i don't know where mine is, but i have an emulator |
| 23:25.19 | bwelker | http://www.harmlesslion.com/cgi-bin/showprog.cgi?search=classic99 |