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| 02:18.21 | macnewbold | http://youtube.com/watch?v=xpcUxwpOQ_A |
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| 04:36.12 | thebigdog | evening all |
| 04:36.37 | jsmith | Hey thebigdog |
| 04:36.45 | thebigdog | how you doing jsmith |
| 04:37.04 | jsmith | Not too shabby... |
| 04:37.11 | thebigdog | nice |
| 04:37.15 | jsmith | And you? |
| 04:37.32 | thebigdog | just upgrading some software on this windows box |
| 04:37.46 | thebigdog | going to crank up some tunes tooo |
| 04:38.15 | thebigdog | then start some work for the night |
| 04:38.18 | thebigdog | that is about it |
| 04:38.38 | thebigdog | hopefully be done in 3 hours or so...or else i will need a soda or something |
| 04:39.09 | thebigdog | finish some emails too |
| 04:40.37 | thebigdog | and i need to get a topic for my blog this week too |
| 04:40.40 | thebigdog | man too much to do |
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| 04:44.02 | herlo | thebigdog: are you syndicated on the utah open source planet? |
| 04:44.15 | thebigdog | no not yet |
| 04:44.20 | thebigdog | i need to do that when i get started |
| 04:44.23 | herlo | thebigdog: what's your url? |
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| 04:44.31 | herlo | oh, you haven't started it yet? |
| 04:45.25 | herlo | okay, just kidding. Let me know when you have it up though... |
| 04:45.44 | thebigdog | yeah i had one years ago and then stopped writing |
| 04:45.50 | thebigdog | now im going to get started again |
| 04:46.21 | Utah_Dave | thebigdog: I just set up ejabberd to try running my own jabber server |
| 04:46.24 | thebigdog | it started when the company i wrote for decided to outsource its writing to india...that just put me in a bad mode |
| 04:46.25 | Utah_Dave | it was really easy |
| 04:46.32 | thebigdog | nice |
| 04:46.45 | thebigdog | openfire is a simple one that i started using a couple years back |
| 04:47.07 | thebigdog | i have used a couple other ones |
| 04:47.07 | Utah_Dave | it has a pretty cool irc transport. The other utahdave is me using my jabber client |
| 04:47.17 | thebigdog | oh nice |
| 04:47.46 | thebigdog | im thinking of doing some eclipse articles to start with |
| 04:47.56 | thebigdog | doing development with eclipse and other langs |
| 04:48.40 | thebigdog | Utah_Dave, i used a jabber server for managing web user before |
| 04:48.44 | thebigdog | it was pretty cool |
| 04:49.05 | thebigdog | i did it on a project wps and i worked on |
| 04:49.18 | thebigdog | so admins could manage users via their jabber client |
| 04:51.36 | Utah_Dave | that's cool |
| 04:52.24 | thebigdog | it was a pretty different setup |
| 04:52.31 | thebigdog | used a pgsql backend with the server |
| 04:52.50 | thebigdog | had some plpgsql that did some killer stuff with jabber |
| 04:53.08 | thebigdog | we had internal messaging on the site |
| 04:53.36 | thebigdog | so if you didnt want to use the jabber client you still could send messages to other users on their jabber |
| 04:54.05 | thebigdog | i would just drop it in the jabber message table for them and they would get it |
| 04:54.17 | Utah_Dave | nice |
| 04:54.40 | thebigdog | im trying to thing which jabber server we used...cant remember now |
| 04:54.44 | Utah_Dave | I'm thinking of using it to get notifications at work |
| 04:54.53 | Utah_Dave | server statuses and stuff |
| 04:54.59 | thebigdog | it is a killer protocol |
| 04:55.26 | Utah_Dave | yeah |
| 04:55.33 | Utah_Dave | http://www.break.com/index/skinny-girl-diet-coke-mentos-booby-trap.html |
| 04:57.41 | thebigdog | haha |
| 04:58.37 | thebigdog | http://www.break.com/index/skinny-girl-owned-by-desert-eagle.html |
| 04:58.40 | thebigdog | that is funny |
| 04:58.45 | thebigdog | i want a desert eagle |
| 05:01.21 | herlo | yes, that is funny |
| 05:02.41 | Utah_Dave | nice! |
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| 05:08.53 | thebigdog | this one is really fun...i woudl do this to my wife - http://www.break.com/index/wife-will-never-touch-a-gun-again.html |
| 05:16.50 | jsmith | thebigdog: That's just mean! |
| 05:17.03 | thebigdog | yeah it is...but so funny nonetheless |
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| 13:35.55 | mindjuju | ~boomchickaboom |
| 13:36.19 | mindjuju | surely somebody has programmed something in for that |
| 13:41.57 | mindjuju | ~nosepick macnewbold |
| 13:41.58 | jbot | ACTION plucks macnewbold out of the nose of humanity and flicks him out the window! |
| 13:42.09 | mindjuju | sorry, it twas for science |
| 13:44.32 | mindjuju | ~boomchickaboom |
| 13:44.32 | jbot | ACTION says a Boom Chicka Boom, Boom Chicka Boom, Boom Chicka Rocka Chicka Rocka Chicka Boom, one more time, it's DexterDe1Drache 's turn! |
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| 16:19.38 | mgeary | ~yow |
| 16:31.37 | mindjuju | josephscott, you around by chance? |
| 16:31.49 | josephscott | mindjuju: yep, what's up? |
| 16:32.56 | mindjuju | just wondering for WP, all i should give the sql account is select,insert, update,delete |
| 16:33.09 | mindjuju | doe sit need create and drop? |
| 16:33.37 | mindjuju | oh, just found it on on the faq |
| 16:33.38 | mindjuju | nm |
| 16:36.35 | mindjuju | oh wait, weird, i jumped off the WP site without noticing. This site is all jacked up i'm on. it's suggesting i give the account ALL RIGHTS?!? |
| 16:36.56 | mindjuju | well shoot, why don't i just go ahead and give WP root usr/pss if i'm going to do that? |
| 16:37.04 | josephscott | mindjuju: what's the matter with all rights? |
| 16:37.21 | josephscott | it's all rights to one database, not your mysql install |
| 16:37.23 | mindjuju | don't want to assign any sql role more rights than it needs |
| 16:37.48 | josephscott | exactly what it will need depends greatly on plugins |
| 16:37.53 | josephscott | some plugins will create new tables |
| 16:38.14 | mindjuju | maybe i watch too much xfiles |
| 16:39.02 | mindjuju | and its not that i don't trust WP, just don't trust others who may be probing the site and finding a way in |
| 16:39.49 | josephscott | if they find a way in and you live a db user with limited rights versus a user with all privs, what's the worst that can happen? |
| 16:40.01 | josephscott | not asking as a joke, serious thought experiment |
| 16:40.50 | mindjuju | server storing WP site isn't just storing a WP site, it has other sites on it as well |
| 16:41.13 | josephscott | that's fine, walk through the thought experiment |
| 16:41.20 | josephscott | all rights to a single database |
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| 16:41.50 | mindjuju | k, all rights to single database |
| 16:42.09 | mindjuju | then if they compromise the account, they can have access to the blog data |
| 16:42.13 | josephscott | they'll be able to fill up all disk space on the server (grow the db to huge levels), but that's no different than if they only had insert privs |
| 16:42.34 | josephscott | and they'd have access to that data if they only had select priv |
| 16:43.40 | mindjuju | so if have the sql user/pass and have all privs, can't they make new users and use grant to gain additional rights? |
| 16:43.47 | josephscott | the key thing is that this is all privs for a single database, not the entire mysql instance |
| 16:44.02 | josephscott | mindjuju: try it |
| 16:44.19 | thebigdog | mindjuju, you dont have to give privs for creating new dbs and users |
| 16:44.48 | mindjuju | @ josephscott, k, give me a sec to fire up something to interface sql with |
| 16:45.05 | mindjuju | @ thebigdog, that's what I was having trouble with, giving all rights to WP sql user/pss |
| 16:45.07 | josephscott | mindjuju: phpmyadmin - ugly UI, but really handy :-) |
| 16:45.25 | josephscott | mindjuju: it's all rights to a single database, not to mysql |
| 16:45.26 | mindjuju | yeah, haven't had a chance to install phpmyadmin on this box, but i do like it |
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| 16:47.13 | thebigdog | mindjuju, basically you dont want to give server admin privs to the user |
| 16:47.57 | thebigdog | and like josephscott stated you only add them to the user for a specific database |
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| 16:48.27 | josephscott | I think what's confusing is the scope issue. in this case all privs is in the scope of a single database. |
| 16:48.58 | thebigdog | so mindjuju you want like grant .... ON db.* to 'user'@'localhost'; |
| 16:49.17 | thebigdog | where db=database name and user = your user's name |
| 16:50.39 | thebigdog | so you could do this: grant create, alter, index, insert, select, update, delete, drop on db.* to 'user'@'localhost'; |
| 16:50.59 | thebigdog | that will give the majority of privs to the user |
| 16:52.32 | mindjuju | k, i'm going to have to read up more on Grant, but i see what you guys are saying |
| 16:52.49 | mindjuju | and confirmed what ya'll said here - http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/grant.html |
| 18:03.47 | josephscott | so does everyone else but me have the day off today? |
| 18:03.54 | mgeary | nope |
| 18:05.48 | thebigdog | i have just come to the realization that myspace = internet trailer park |
| 18:06.32 | unum | thebigdog: just now? had you never been to the site before? |
| 18:06.49 | mgeary | seriously |
| 18:06.50 | thebigdog | not really |
| 18:07.05 | thebigdog | cause i hate it |
| 18:07.12 | mgeary | and Facebook == college dorm cafeteria |
| 18:07.17 | thebigdog | yep |
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| 18:21.49 | timinator | :( |
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| 19:03.51 | tierra | seems to me that more people are working today than getting it off |
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| 19:35.55 | brasto | isn't there a jing for Linux? |
| 19:36.01 | brasto | ~apb mindjuju |
| 19:36.02 | jbot | ACTION calls baby Lyssa to find mindjuju |
| 19:36.12 | herlo | brasto: what is jing? |
| 19:36.40 | brasto | herlo: http://www.jingproject.com/ |
| 19:40.03 | herlo | brasto: istanbul |
| 19:40.12 | brasto | ~istanbul |
| 19:41.06 | herlo | well, not that nice |
| 19:41.59 | herlo | brasto: so you want to be able to share videos with others about what you're doing? |
| 19:42.42 | brasto | some people in a class were wondering about what kinds of screenshot programs are available for Linux |
| 19:43.01 | herlo | http://live.gnome.org/Istanbul |
| 19:43.10 | herlo | brasto: gnome has one built in |
| 19:43.14 | herlo | so does kde |
| 19:43.18 | brasto | video is a nice feature, but plain screenshots are fine for most needs |
| 19:43.32 | herlo | have you ever shown gnome-do? |
| 19:43.35 | brasto | sometimes built-in screenshot progs lack a few features |
| 19:43.46 | herlo | http://do.davebsd.com/ |
| 19:44.13 | brasto | i just tried to run gnome-do, and it's apparently not installed |
| 19:45.36 | herlo | brasto: distro? |
| 19:46.43 | brasto | fc9 |
| 19:46.48 | brasto | just installed |
| 19:47.03 | herlo | w00t! |
| 19:47.15 | herlo | btw, 0.4 (what comes with f9) is crap compared to f10 |
| 19:50.24 | brasto | herlo, the istanbul version in my fc9 was 0.2.2-7, not 0.4 |
| 19:50.56 | brasto | or, perhaps you were talking about gnome-do, which /is/ 0.4x |
| 19:53.47 | herlo | brasto: I was referring to gnome-do |
| 19:54.06 | herlo | brasto: just finished the screencast of gnome-do, uploading now |
| 19:54.31 | brasto | is fc10 in beta yet? |
| 19:55.29 | wps | I can't believe we're already talking about FC 10 |
| 19:55.41 | wps | it wasn't five years ago that fedora was interoduced |
| 19:55.42 | wps | version 1 |
| 19:56.18 | brasto | yea, FC versions have incremented very fast - about every 4 to 6 months |
| 19:56.20 | wps | I set my server up with FC 3 four years ago I think it was |
| 19:56.31 | wps | that's too fast in my opinion for major rev numbers |
| 19:56.31 | brasto | lol |
| 19:56.45 | wps | Fedora = too fast |
| 19:56.48 | wps | Mac OS = too slow |
| 19:56.50 | wps | (for rev numbers) |
| 19:56.59 | brasto | yea, I like the way OpenSuse increments with minor version numbers every 4 to 6 months |
| 19:57.18 | brasto | but major numbers are a couple years apart with OpenSuse |
| 19:57.38 | brasto | and the enterprise product version is somewhere near the OpenSuse version |
| 19:58.26 | herlo | wps: Fedora is only every 6 monhts |
| 19:58.41 | herlo | brasto: OpenSUSE is actually every 8 months |
| 19:59.00 | herlo | wps: what you probably want then is CentOS |
| 19:59.21 | herlo | but, if you just continue updating your latest release, its easy to move from one version to the next |
| 19:59.38 | herlo | brasto: f10 is almost alpha |
| 20:00.09 | brasto | and that's stable enough for herlo... |
| 20:00.13 | brasto | :) |
| 20:00.28 | herlo | http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/10/Schedule |
| 20:00.39 | herlo | brasto: no, I won't be doing anything until the 1st Beta |
| 20:01.11 | brasto | are you not using it now in order to get a screenshot from it, herlo |
| 20:01.12 | brasto | ? |
| 20:01.12 | wps | yes, when I update the OS (some time soon), I will be putting CentOS on there instead of FC |
| 20:01.16 | herlo | specifically because I am using F9 to work on UTOSC and I don't want things to muck up between now and then... |
| 20:01.38 | herlo | wps: but if you used Fedora for your laptop, its a perfect match. |
| 20:01.47 | herlo | brasto: no, I'm on f9 |
| 20:03.18 | brasto | have they decided yet if rh6 will be based on fc10? |
| 20:04.35 | brasto | doh! |
| 20:06.29 | herlo | lol |
| 20:06.34 | herlo | rhel6 |
| 20:06.43 | herlo | will most likely be based upon F10 |
| 20:07.46 | herlo | though you'll still see it in naming conventions due to the difficulty of removing it |
| 20:08.28 | brasto | yea, and when I see 'f9', i think of my function 9 key, not Fedora 9... |
| 20:08.56 | herlo | do f-9 then |
| 20:09.02 | brasto | lol |
| 20:10.55 | brasto | to clarify, herlo, they didn't just drop the 'C', they dropped the word 'Core' from their name, right herlo? |
| 20:11.02 | brasto | doh! |
| 20:12.03 | herlo | brasto: right |
| 20:12.16 | herlo | and you are making up for lack of herlo's |
| 20:12.35 | brasto | lol |
| 20:12.42 | herlo | the core indicated the core team inside RH, now that doesn't exist anymore, packages are just part of the community now |
| 20:13.08 | brasto | cool, like a true open source community oughtta be |
| 20:13.27 | brasto | oughta...oughttta... ourghta... |
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| 20:25.54 | herlo | k |
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| 20:46.28 | brasto | herlo, where do you go to disable password auth for ssh? |
| 20:46.31 | brasto | in rh5? |
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| 20:53.49 | fungus | PasswordAuthentication no |
| 20:53.57 | fungus | ChallengeResponseAuthentication no |
| 20:54.16 | fungus | in /etc/ssh/sshd_config |
| 21:02.06 | herlo | brasto: disable password auth? |
| 21:02.31 | herlo | or are you interested in just making it so you can do either passwords or tokens? |
| 21:02.55 | dragonOfTheWest | whaleslap thebigdog |
| 21:03.05 | herlo | dragonOfTheWest: you need a ~ |
| 21:03.11 | dragonOfTheWest | ~whaleslap thebigdog |
| 21:03.12 | jbot | ACTION beats thebigdog upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 21:03.12 | herlo | ~whaleslap dragonOfTheWest |
| 21:03.13 | jbot | ACTION beats dragonOfTheWest upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 21:03.16 | dragonOfTheWest | thebigdog: just for fun |
| 21:03.22 | dragonOfTheWest | thebigdog: hey Ray |
| 21:03.30 | thebigdog | what up dragonOfTheWest |
| 21:05.03 | herlo | brasto: finishing up my screencast of gnome-do |
| 21:10.23 | brasto | ~lart f9 for not supporting touchpad touch-clicking |
| 21:10.23 | jbot | runs at f9 with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut for not supporting touchpad touch-clicking |
| 21:10.49 | brasto | I had to manually add the support from a forum article, but it still doesn't work the same |
| 21:11.14 | herlo | brasto: synergy |
| 21:11.27 | herlo | s/synergy/synaptic/ |
| 21:13.37 | brasto | herlo, yea, the forum had me add something about synaptic drivers to /etc/x11/xorg.conf |
| 21:13.42 | herlo | right |
| 21:14.12 | herlo | brasto: http://herlo.fedorapeople.org/screencasts/gnome-do-av.ogg |
| 21:15.55 | brasto | cool, herlo |
| 21:16.05 | herlo | are you watching it? |
| 21:16.09 | brasto | yep |
| 21:16.30 | herlo | :) |
| 21:16.38 | brasto | any better fix than the xorg.conf one? My touchpad randomly stops working for touch-clicking. |
| 21:18.58 | herlo | brasto: there's a synergy config too IIRC |
| 21:19.52 | brasto | s/synergy/synaptic |
| 21:20.03 | herlo | synergy is cool too though |
| 21:20.49 | brasto | herlo, how long is the video? the scroller hasn't moved at all... |
| 21:22.30 | herlo | brasto: its about 10 minutes |
| 21:22.48 | herlo | brasto: what video player are you using? |
| 21:23.18 | brasto | whatever firefox uses by default for that file in fc9... i think... |
| 21:24.04 | wps | ~wedgie IE |
| 21:24.05 | jbot | ACTION hangs IE from the flag pole by his underwear |
| 21:29.35 | brasto | cool video herlo |
| 21:30.32 | wps | teaching? |
| 21:30.46 | brasto | teaching a RH 033 class |
| 21:31.24 | wps | ah |
| 21:31.36 | wps | cool |
| 21:32.55 | herlo | brasto: thanks |
| 21:33.03 | herlo | I wish it were better, but its a good start |
| 21:56.24 | mindjuju | wps, you around? |
| 22:01.20 | brasto | ~summon wps for mindjuju |
| 22:01.21 | jbot | apt takes out 20 clean, identical-looking phones, some extra hands, and pretends to be a telemarketer for a large corporation, so he gets delivered a phonelist containing wps for mindjuju's coordinates |
| 22:01.30 | wps | yes |
| 22:01.45 | brasto | lol |
| 22:03.12 | brasto | now someone needs to wake mindjuju |
| 22:43.28 | timinator | I'm out.... later guys |
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| 23:30.29 | mindjuju | anybody know off hand how to get <li> tags to display horizontally instead of vertically? |
| 23:31.09 | bradym | display: inline; IIRC |
| 23:31.40 | mindjuju | thx bradym, i tried that but didn't work |
| 23:31.52 | mindjuju | but now that i think about it, seem s like you have to apply it to the li and not the ul |
| 23:31.56 | mindjuju | i'll try again |
| 23:32.41 | bradym | i was wrong, it's: list-style-type:none; |
| 23:32.55 | bradym | on the <ul> |
| 23:33.25 | bradym | may still need the display: inline on the <li>s though |
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| 23:55.27 | mindjuju | ~dhit beandog |
| 23:55.27 | jbot | ACTION performs Dog Collar of the Heavens on beandog |
| 23:55.43 | beandog | ey now |
| 23:56.09 | mindjuju | :) |
| 23:56.23 | mindjuju | just me way of saying, sup |
| 23:57.34 | beandog | nada |
| 23:57.41 | beandog | just enjoying the day off |
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| 23:58.04 | beandog | what you up to |
| 23:58.17 | mindjuju | pounding a PSD into a wordpress template |
| 23:58.31 | mindjuju | at first was hard, but i think i'm understanding what up now |
| 23:58.44 | beandog | for a client? |
| 23:58.49 | mindjuju | yeah |
| 23:59.05 | beandog | right on |