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01:58.58thebigdogmindjuju: you still need me
02:12.07thebigdogany mac users on?
02:23.35jsmiththebigdog: Yeah, what's up?
02:23.45jsmiththebigdog: (I'm booted into Linux right now, but maybe I can answer your question)
02:23.53thebigdogoh i got it...rar opener for mac
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03:47.43beandogfor a second it looked like that was for me
04:00.45DexterTheDragonit was to you
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04:31.42beandogheh
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04:37.39mindjujugood ole beandog
04:37.49beandog:)
04:40.15DexterTheDragonand an ol beandog he is
04:40.20beandoghey now
04:40.24beandogI'm only 83.
04:40.32DexterTheDragonin fact.. we may have to put him down soon...
04:40.33DexterTheDragon:)
04:42.29mindjujuc ya'll tomorrow
04:53.57beandogholy crap
04:54.07beandogthat lightning bolt was on my block, I swear
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05:25.07influx^^'lo
05:25.08influx^^anyone there?
05:28.35jsmithinflux^^: I'm here...
05:30.40influx^^Word. What web host(s) do you recommend that are lax on content restrictions?
05:30.53influx^^is|are
05:31.10jsmithI wouldn't know
05:31.18jsmithYou might wanna just throw your own box in a colo
05:31.36jsmithDo I dare ask why you want something that's lax on content restrictions?
05:32.01influx^^I don't. I'm just asking for a friend.
05:37.59influx^^He feels strongly about personal freedoms.
05:38.40influx^^That's it, really. Anywho. Good night and thanks. :)
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13:16.31mindjujusup bwelker
13:22.32bwelkersup
13:27.02mindjujujust trying to find something decent to listen to as i work
13:28.53bwelkerhard or soft?
13:29.55mindjujui think more soft, music has to flow, not be disjointed
13:30.02mindjujuotherwise, breaks my concentration
13:30.09bwelkerhave you ever heard of freshcut
13:30.25mindjujuhavent
13:30.25bwelkerfound him a while ago, really cool chill music
13:30.45bwelkerhttp://www.freshcut.org/4/
13:31.08bwelkerhe has a music player on his site, just go there
13:31.30bwelkerand the first song is not northern lights, it open your eyes
13:33.05bwelkersame guy here: http://music.freshcut.org/
13:33.12bwelkerobviously
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13:34.54bwelkerand you can browse (instead of being served random songs) here: http://www.humblevoice.com/freshcut
13:35.56bwelkerso there's an hours worth...
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13:36.30mindjujuits sounding pretty good so far
13:37.22bwelkerthe Lonely in Paradise song is the one of his that got me hooked, its pretty good
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14:18.22mindjujuwow, we americans are really behind on things - http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/High-Heel-Race/ss/events/lf/072308highheelrace#photoViewer=/080719/481/1d3bc635559d4230a00b2a46e487a144
14:35.26Utah_Davehave any of you mac aficionados tried this?  http://uri.cat/software/LiquidMac/
14:35.29Utah_Dave?
14:37.53mindjuju~poke beandog
14:37.54jbotACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind beandog, pokes beandog repeatedly, hilarity ensues.
14:38.17mindjuju~poke jbot
14:38.18jbotACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind jbot, pokes jbot repeatedly, hilarity ensues.
14:38.42beandogmindjuju, yo
14:38.47beandogwhat you want
14:38.50beandogIm looking for PSP games
14:39.06mindjujujust trying to stay awake actually
14:39.18beandogmindjuju, were you up all night watching cartoons?
14:39.26mindjujui wish
14:39.44mindjujubut haven't really seen any good cartoons lately
14:40.12mindjujui should see if Totally Spies is still playing
14:40.16mindjujuthat was decent
14:40.20beandogwhats that
14:40.30beandogdid you hear about the real ghostbustsers coming out soon
14:40.32beandogthe complete series!
14:40.33beandogwhee
14:40.54mindjujubeandog - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAb4m8H5aFM
14:42.57beandoghuh, never heard of this one
14:43.20beandogoh gosh.
14:43.27beandogthis looks as bad as that JEM cartoon
14:43.37beandogno, Im sure that would have been worse.
14:44.01mindjujuthis is so totally not JEM
14:44.15beandoghttp://youtube.com/watch?v=JmYU4CeuZQ0
14:44.30beandogif someone walks in while Im watching this, Im really gonna die.
14:44.43mindjujuyour mom watches JEM
14:45.02beandogoh man
14:45.13mindjujuyou started it
14:45.16beandogId forgotten that there were really crappy cartoons too, growing up.
14:45.57mindjujuanyways, something about totally spies that i like
14:46.16mindjujumaybe its cause it makes fun of the 90210 crowd, high school etc
14:46.48beandogheh
14:46.50beandogis it new?
14:46.57beandogit looked pretty recent.
14:47.05mindjujunope
14:47.11mindjujuit's been out for a while
14:47.22mindjuju3 years at least
14:49.15beandogoh
14:49.17beandogrecent enough
14:49.19beandog:)
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15:02.25redroyMy office was broke into over the weekend... my Mac is gone :(
15:03.45redroyjust wanted to vent
15:03.58mindjujusory to hear that redroy
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15:15.07wpsyikes
15:15.22wpsthat bites, redroy
15:15.28wpsinsured?
15:16.33redroyyes insured... also HUGE fan of timemachine now... It backed up my apps and all.
15:16.41wpsoh yeah
15:16.45wpsTimeMachine is awesome
15:17.11redroyI think the most annoying part is changing passwords etc.
15:17.23wpsyeah
15:17.30wpsdon't forget your SSH keys (if you had any)
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15:23.41mgearyugh. naw, i'm stuffed, but thanks
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15:41.42mindjujuAIIIEEEEE!  ravetrax.com is playing some funk-a-delic solid gold weird stuff!
15:48.59wpsspeaking of music and gold
15:49.03wpsbest band of all time --> http://www.whitegoldiswhitegold.com/
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15:52.51mindjuju@thebigdog - (9:49:04 AM) wps: best band of all time --> http://www.whitegoldiswhitegold.com/
15:53.18mindjujuthe flash vid has a "Moody Blues" feel to it
15:53.37thebigdogill check it out
15:57.28mindjujuthe rock vid is awesome
16:02.48mindjujutiger vid is the best
16:05.57wpsyou like the guitar that doubles as a carafe?
16:08.02mindjujudidn't see it as a carafe
16:08.35wpsin one of the videos, the guitar is full of milk and he takes drinks during the song
16:09.00mindjujuoh, only saw two vids, the one about his hair and one about a jungle and tiger
16:10.20thebigdogits kinda stupid
16:10.32wps(it's a joke)
16:10.39mindjujujit's a viral video
16:10.56mindjujubut i'm not sold on how effect viral videos currently are
16:10.59wpsit amazes me how much people spend on advertising
16:11.02mindjujuthey WERE effective
16:11.08wpsI completely agree, mindjuju
16:11.31wpsyou can't plan a virus… they happen on their own
16:11.39mindjujuyup
16:12.13wpsit drives me nuts how a "viral campaign" is now becoming a standard part of a marketing package
16:12.14mindjujuand the initial shock from the first has desensitized the crowd to the subsequent viral videos
16:12.51wpsevery product can't have a website with viral videos
16:12.57wpsgag
16:13.10wpstoo saturated
16:13.31mindjujuyeah, 4 years ago it was good
16:13.47mindjujulike subservientchcken came out in2k4
16:15.13DexterTheDragonwow thats old
16:15.44mindjujuhere is the URL for those looking for memory lane - http://www.subservientchicken.com/
16:16.37mindjujuthe really funny thing is how MS is trying to start a belated battle on -apple -google +vista
16:16.54wpsyeah
16:17.03wpshave you seen the ads they just released about Vista?
16:17.11thebigdogsub chicken was awesome
16:17.13thebigdogi loved that one
16:17.40mindjujujust reading about provista ads now - http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/08/07/22/microsoft_offers_first_hints_at_anti_apple_marketing_blitz_for_vista.html
16:17.57wps"people that have rejected Windows Vista are the same kind of people that would have thought that the world was flat"
16:18.54mindjujuthat's why i say that MS = Polyester Industry, it was huge in the 70's and in band uniforms, but that's about it
16:19.04mindjujuno matter how it reinvents itself, it's not going to be accepted
16:20.17wpshttp://screencast.com/t/dWElmdMLaX
16:20.41wps"get the facts about Windows Vista… [and] … get in touch with your dark side"
16:21.20orsonjnice
16:22.12wpsfor a company with enough money that they could use $100 bills for toilet tissue, they sure fail on marketing
16:22.31DexterTheDragonthe also fail on development
16:22.47wpsit's amazing
16:23.15wpsthe bigger companies get… the more money the get… the more employees they have… the more resources they have…
16:23.45wpsthe worse their products get and the worse their customer service gets
16:24.14mindjujuwell, i'd vary that a little when talking about MS
16:24.29mindjujuthey were NEVER benevolent
16:24.46mindjujulike making windows specifically NOT work with DR DOS
16:25.26mindjujuas far as i remember, it did work for a while, but something seems to have happened, though don't remember everything exactly
16:25.55wpsdoes anyone else give their spouse crap about committing a federal offense each day by opening your mail?
16:26.29mindjujunope, authorized mine as an administrative agent
16:26.37mindjujuand then route personal stuff through alternate communication channels
16:26.44wps:)
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17:12.29mindjuju>>>> Results 0 songs found
17:13.35tierraoh man... Mozy has some hefty competition now with a company building their client on top of wxWidgets that works on all platforms: http://www.jungledisk.com/
17:14.06tierraisn't there someone here that works at Mozy?
17:14.47mindjujuhmmm.. don't think so
17:15.06mindjujuthere was a meeting at the Novell center in Provo by the guy FROM mozy
17:15.12mindjujulike a month or two ago
17:15.28DexterTheDragonI think one of the guys over in utahpython works for mozy
17:15.55tierramaybe that's it... I went to a Python UG meeting once held at Mozy's office
17:28.48mindjujuis there a way to get a list of all the subdomains existing for a domain?
17:31.38mindjujuis there a way to get a list of all the subdomains existing for a domain?
17:31.51fungusIf the domain allows transfers you can transfer the whole zone.
17:32.04fungusdig axfr domain.com @ns1.domain.com
17:32.46fungusIf the domain doesn't allow transfers, you are pretty much stuck.
17:33.04mindjujuk
17:37.28tierrawhich unless you run the DNS server, you likely don't have access to AXFR...
17:47.06wpsI don't understand why Microsoft had to change the file extensions for all of their office suite applications
17:47.35wpsAdobe didn't change .psd to .psdx when version 10 came out
17:47.54mindjujuthere's a reason, wps, but not that it'll give you warm fuzzies
17:47.56wpsyou can't open a .psd save from 10 in Photoshop 1.0, but they still have the same extension
17:47.57DexterTheDragonadobe probably didn't overhaul the psd format
17:48.00mgearybackwards compatibility was lost
17:48.06mgearyDexterTheDragon: right
17:48.13mindjujuthe new file extension are actually zips of 4 files
17:48.20wpsright… I know
17:48.28mindjujumost being XML docs and one being binary data
17:48.28wpsI still don't see why the extension had to change
17:48.48mindjujubecause they don't want word 2k to gag and die when it tries to open something from word 2k7?
17:48.56DexterTheDragoncause the file format change
17:48.58DexterTheDragond
17:49.13wpsall new versions of applications produce different files that are not backwards compatible… but they don't change the extension
18:03.41orsonjIt might be PR reasons. make people think, That's different, do I need to get new office?
18:05.01orsonjIt could be possible that other formats allow forward version detection and allow them to fail gracefully. New office format could have caused problems when being loaded in old office
18:07.58wpsyeah
18:32.56wpsthanks for recommending hulu, mindjuju
18:33.03wpsit's my new lunch companion
18:36.04macnewbold~hulu
18:42.14wpshulu.com
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19:32.43mindjujuwww.hulu.com is the best
19:32.54mindjujui mean, where can you catch season 1 of the Rockford files?
19:46.53Utah_Davehey! hulu.com has ghostbusters!
19:47.10mindjujuyeah, just watched ghostbusters last week
19:47.20mindjujuit's was awesome
20:21.05thebigdogi love forms that gather your date of birth info and gives you the option of 1905 for your birth year
20:21.33thebigdogi wonder how many 103 yr olds are checking the internet regularly
20:22.46DexterTheDragonI've seen em go back to 1900
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20:24.56thebigdogcrazy
20:25.04thebigdogdude mindjuju they have the a-team
20:25.06thebigdogwhat a classic
20:25.12mindjujutellin' ya dude
20:25.22mindjujuhulu == 'da bomb'
20:27.04thebigdoghttp://www.hulu.com/watch/25034/americas-got-talent-busty-heart
20:27.06thebigdoghaha
20:27.21thebigdogthose things are massive
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20:30.25mindjujudude, that can't be real
20:32.35beandog_busty heart?
20:33.00mindjujuyup
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20:41.55thebigdoghehe
20:42.07thebigdogit was on tv
20:42.17thebigdogbut then that is all questionable
20:42.35beandog_mindjuju, so you have a darknet connection to look at busty hearts?
20:43.17mindjujuwell i wouldn't say darknet, but let's just say
20:43.22mindjujuwell, let's not
20:43.33mindjujuweather sure is nice
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20:43.49DexterTheDragonhe could say, but then he'd have to kill ya
20:44.07mindjujuyeah, pretty much
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20:45.09mindjujuwell, it's not all that high tech, i just bump over to a server that is out of firewall range, and that i absolutely 100% control from OS install until 2 seconds ago
20:45.27mindjujuwhich also just happens to be in my office
20:45.36mindjujuand viewed the vid that way
20:46.03mindjujuthough saying her name here doesn't help my cause that much
20:59.18thebigdogman i love firebug
21:01.00unumI think I cost my self a job offer once because of that
21:01.00thebigdogi dont need a dark connection...i am the dark connection
21:01.04Utah_Davedang, thebigdog have you seen that video with the Eclipse Cola stuff?
21:01.16thebigdognope Utah_Dave link plz?
21:01.20Utah_Davehttp://www.vimeo.com/1195398?pg=embed&sec=1195398
21:01.26Utah_DaveI'm installing it right now
21:01.26thebigdogUtah_Dave, i did grab the new eclipse
21:01.36Utah_Daveyeah, I just downloaded it today
21:01.58thebigdogoh yeah i have heard about it
21:02.03thebigdoghave not used it yet
21:02.28thebigdogit is killer
21:02.36thebigdogespecially with co workers
21:03.00Utah_Daveyeah, that's what I'm thinking
21:03.10thebigdoghaha that guy plays wow
21:03.16thebigdogthat is funny
21:11.25Utah_Davethebigdog: man, this is really cool. Not only can you both edit the document at the same time, you can send screen shots, files and stuff right from eclipse
21:11.43Utah_DaveYou can connect through skype, jabber, yahoo messenger, IRC
21:11.50Utah_Davemsn, I think
21:15.11Utah_DaveOh, and you can chat right in Eclipse
21:15.16Utah_Daveok, I"ll shut up now
21:16.22thebigdoghehe
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21:16.50utah_dave2dang, it has an irc client, too
21:17.53thebigdogoh yeah
21:18.04thebigdogdrip needs to get some of that action
21:18.57dripsounds nifty.
21:18.58drip=)
21:19.06Utah_Daveyeah, it's pretty cool.
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21:25.09bigdoggyim in the house
21:25.40thebigdogway killer you could use internal jabber for development
21:26.39thebigdogworks great with my internal jabber server Utah_Dave
21:27.47Utah_Davesweet!
21:27.52Utah_Davewhat jabber server are you using?
21:28.22thebigdogi have an internal corp one i setup
21:28.27thebigdogbut i do use xmission and gmail too
21:28.31Utah_Daveejabberd?
21:28.42thebigdogfor my internal i use openfire
21:28.59Utah_Davecool
21:29.10thebigdogUtah_Dave, you have xmission jabber?
21:29.25Utah_Daveno, i was testing using gmail
21:30.16Utah_Davewhat's your xmission jabber account?
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21:33.15mgeary~rlart
21:33.15jbotblasts jsmith to oblivion with a kamehameha wave
21:35.45beandog_now thats something weird I never noticed before.
21:36.00beandog_the data type is an integer in the mysql database, but php casts it as a string anyway.
21:36.49mgearyall data from mysql comes out as a string by default, i believe
21:37.06beandog_really?
21:37.06beandog_hmm
21:37.07beandog_ok
21:38.21mgearythink so
21:38.47beandog_its my crappy internet connection, drops all the time
21:38.54wpstrim(beandog)
21:38.59wpstrim(beandog_)
21:39.10mgeary~trim(beandog_)
21:39.23mgeary~rtrim(beandog_,"_");
21:39.32beandog_heh
21:39.53wpsit worked!
21:45.35fungus~rtrim(fungus)
21:45.45wpsha ha
21:46.14fungu~fungu .= s
21:56.32mgeary~md5 mgeary
21:57.12DexterTheDragon~rainbowcrack 6d49fdebab65f6bee8898c7c60f30270
21:59.44fungus~rot13 DexterTheDragon
21:59.44jbotQrkgreGurQentba
21:59.59DexterTheDragon~rot13 QrkgreGurQentba
21:59.59jbotDexterTheDragon
22:00.05DexterTheDragonhells yeah
22:00.11fungusreversible encryption
22:00.28QrkgreGurQentba~xor DexterTheDragon
22:00.49fungus~piglatin Dexter the Dragon
22:01.18fungus~piglatin Exterday ethay Agondray
22:01.31fungusnot reversible...
22:02.16fungus~x en de Dexter the Dragon
22:02.34fungus~x de en dexter der Drache
22:02.56fungusnot very good reversible.
22:03.32DexterTheDragonI like DexterDerDrache
22:04.17QrkgreGurQentbader Drachendexter
22:04.25wpsanyone else get a headache each day at 4:00?
22:04.39unumI hardly ever get headaches
22:04.41wpsI think it's because my blood sugar is dropping off
22:05.00DexterDerDrache~give wps blood sugar
22:05.01jbotACTION gives blood sugar to wps
22:08.41unumI know some people that are sensative to flourcent lights and will get headaches if they spend too long under them
22:09.07DexterDerDracheyeah I would blame flourecent lighting
22:09.13wpsI hate flourecent lights
22:09.23DexterDerDracheand staring at a monitor
22:09.33unumof course if you feel better after you eat, it may well be the blood sugar
22:09.44unumbut dexter is right the monitor can do it too
22:09.59unumeat while still staring at the screen and see if it goes away :)
22:10.22DexterDerDracheah science
22:10.23unumI do get headaches when I'm really hungry, but it takes more than four hours for that to happen
22:13.30mgearywhat's really bad is if you're really hungry and you take Ibuprofen and don't eat
22:13.33mgearythat really makes you sick
22:14.14unumpain killers don't work for me
22:14.25unumso I don't take them anymore
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22:31.40wpsthis cracks me up every time I look at it
22:31.41wpshttp://www.getafirstlife.com/
22:32.13wps"first life is a 3D analog world where server lag does not exist!"
22:32.16mindjujuthat is funny
22:32.46wpsfind out where you actually live
23:15.47beandogmindjuju, my strength is wavering ... I need more Jem and the Holograms cartoons
23:16.06mindjujuoh, no you don't want to be watching that stuff
23:16.34beandogwhat do you mean, I love cartoons that are 90% pink and 20% glitter.
23:16.40mindjujuyou need a pick me up, like a plucky song- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4AL5weuhFs&feature=related
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23:18.57mindjujusee, plucky!
23:21.51mindjujubeandog - here is a good song fo rya - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNTxr2NJHa0
23:22.37beandogmy poor computer cant take the strain
23:22.46mindjujudid you click on it?
23:22.49beandogI guess 128 mb of RAM isn't enough
23:22.53mindjujuit's a really good song
23:23.26mindjujui think it went for a grammy or whatever is the music award
23:23.41mindjujupretty sure the vid won some kind of mtv award for being JEM like or something
23:25.57beandogI watched the first one
23:26.23mindjujuyou'll kick yourself if you don't watch this one - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNTxr2NJHa0
23:26.31mindjujui promise it isn't a rickroll
23:26.37mindjujuif it is, i'll give ya $$
23:32.12josephscottnothing beats a little InSoc
23:33.54mindjujufo sho
23:34.04mindjujudidn't know anybody else listened to them until you mentioned it the other day
23:34.30mindjujuso i get the fun privelege of finding out how to skin wordpress
23:34.33mindjujuhere's hoping its easy
23:46.42Utah_Dave~behave wordpress
23:47.20mindjujuis it being naughty?
23:55.16timinatorgotta run guys.... late

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