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| 01:01.13 | mindjuju | anybody around? |
| 01:02.25 | jsmith-korea | mindjuju: I'm here |
| 01:02.28 | jsmith-korea | mindjuju: What's up? |
| 01:02.41 | mindjuju | zoinks! You're in Korea! |
| 01:02.44 | mindjuju | how cool is that |
| 01:02.53 | mindjuju | jsmith-korea, i'm having some design issues |
| 01:03.10 | mindjuju | i've got a picture and having a hard time finding a complementary color schema |
| 01:03.17 | jsmith-korea | Design? OK... |
| 01:03.41 | mindjuju | are you good at design? i suck |
| 01:03.52 | jsmith-korea | I suck eggs when it comes to design |
| 01:03.56 | jsmith-korea | But I have some suggestions. |
| 01:04.14 | mindjuju | k, let me post this somewhere you can look at it real quick |
| 01:04.32 | jsmith-korea | 1) Go to istockphoto, and upload your picture there... they have a thing that'll find other pictures in that same color range, and I often get inspiration that way |
| 01:05.17 | mindjuju | funny you mention istock, that's where i got this comp from |
| 01:05.53 | jsmith-korea | 2) http://firewheeldesign.com/widgets/ (If you're got a Mac) |
| 01:06.41 | jsmith-korea | 3) http://www.degraeve.com/color-palette/ |
| 01:07.05 | jsmith-korea | and for my fourth and final (and best-kept-secret), http://www.colorhunter.com/ |
| 01:09.04 | mindjuju | that last one looks like it'll be cool |
| 01:09.11 | mindjuju | here is my general layout so far |
| 01:09.11 | mindjuju | http://screencast.com/t/5mRZr1jc |
| 01:09.31 | mindjuju | you can see the image from istock, didn't want to buy it until they say they like it |
| 01:09.50 | mindjuju | the part that 'm having trouble with is the bar right after the image |
| 01:10.01 | mindjuju | where news is on one side, and the company descrp goes on the other |
| 01:10.04 | mindjuju | yipes! |
| 01:13.01 | jsmith-korea | mindjuju: Let me know how it works out for you -- I've had good success with it in the past |
| 01:13.35 | mindjuju | thx for the suggestions, they were helpful |
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| 05:46.44 | NoticZ | anyone awake? |
| 05:49.42 | bwelker | nope |
| 05:50.11 | bwelker | do you have a question? |
| 05:51.03 | NoticZ | sure do |
| 05:51.58 | bwelker | what can i help you with |
| 05:52.01 | bwelker | if i can |
| 05:52.02 | NoticZ | trying to manipulate a string...somthing link str_replace. Can I do this line by line? |
| 05:52.12 | bwelker | through a whole file? |
| 05:52.12 | NoticZ | it is a large string |
| 05:52.15 | NoticZ | yes |
| 05:52.21 | NoticZ | well, kind of. |
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| 05:52.35 | bwelker | you can use file_get_contents to put the file into an array, then foreach through the array |
| 05:52.46 | NoticZ | nm, yes it is a file |
| 05:53.17 | bwelker | or sorry, file, not file_get_contents |
| 05:53.19 | NoticZ | well the file is an array, a description for each of the products I am working on |
| 05:53.31 | NoticZ | about 10 of them.. |
| 05:53.31 | bwelker | i don't understand |
| 05:53.43 | bwelker | how is the file an array? |
| 05:54.05 | NoticZ | $desc['decal'] = "the description"; |
| 05:54.11 | NoticZ | $desc['install kit'] = "the description"; |
| 05:54.22 | NoticZ | $desc['skin'] = "the description"; |
| 05:54.24 | bwelker | that is the file contents? PHP code? |
| 05:54.30 | NoticZ | file content |
| 05:54.45 | bwelker | so it's a PHP file? |
| 05:54.48 | NoticZ | yes |
| 05:54.50 | bwelker | ok |
| 05:54.57 | bwelker | and what did you want to do with it? |
| 05:55.54 | NoticZ | well what I am trying to do now is delete a product out of the file, but I dont want to delete it I ws just going to use /* $desc['install kit'] /* |
| 05:56.02 | bwelker | ok |
| 05:56.21 | bwelker | how do you know where the product is |
| 05:56.26 | NoticZ | just so if one of my workers deletes something they shouldnt |
| 05:57.06 | bwelker | so... to get this straight... you're using the file kinda like a database? but it's PHP code? |
| 05:57.32 | bwelker | and you want to be able to dynamically delete elements from this file (comment them out) via other PHP |
| 05:57.32 | NoticZ | I am saving all the description information for that specific product in the same file. |
| 05:57.47 | bwelker | and there is more than one product per file? |
| 05:58.06 | NoticZ | yes one single file for all the product descriptions |
| 05:58.17 | NoticZ | it is basicly a file for the desciption information text |
| 05:58.20 | bwelker | and you can't put this into a database? |
| 05:58.30 | bwelker | sorry, beside the point |
| 05:58.42 | bwelker | how do you know which product you are 'deleting' |
| 06:00.00 | NoticZ | Well I am using a database as well |
| 06:00.05 | bwelker | can you paste a large sample to here: http://uphpu.pastebin.com/ so I know what you're talking about? |
| 06:00.14 | bwelker | and give me the link |
| 06:00.52 | bwelker | is there a specific reason you can't put the description in the database? |
| 06:01.35 | NoticZ | I just like the easy editable file since we have it on the server at work. Yes I would agree sql is so much easier to use...other then that no other reason :) |
| 06:02.13 | bwelker | never heard of that |
| 06:02.30 | bwelker | so... again, how do you know which product you are deleting |
| 06:02.58 | NoticZ | include ("functions/info/description.php"); |
| 06:02.59 | NoticZ | foreach ($desc as $key => $val) |
| 06:02.59 | NoticZ | { |
| 06:02.59 | NoticZ | echo "<input name='to_delete[]' type=\"checkbox\" value=\"". $key. "\" />". $key. "<br>"; |
| 06:02.59 | NoticZ | } |
| 06:03.23 | bwelker | right, but in the file, how do you know which portion of the file corresponds to which product |
| 06:04.23 | bwelker | the key of the array |
| 06:04.24 | bwelker | ? |
| 06:04.28 | NoticZ | the file is an array so once I load the file everything that is inserted into $desc[] is an array |
| 06:04.58 | bwelker | right but in order to comment out the right portion of the array, there has to be something unique, like the key, which it appears to be |
| 06:05.17 | bwelker | hold on, i'll make a regex for you |
| 06:05.48 | NoticZ | php is not my best language :) actually I just started all of this for an abay uction manager for my company to manage everything we list. |
| 06:06.00 | NoticZ | let me post the file in the pastbin thing |
| 06:06.56 | NoticZ | k got it....notic should be the name |
| 06:07.21 | NoticZ | man I love family guy! |
| 06:08.07 | NoticZ | key is unique and then I want to line down to the next </li> |
| 06:08.07 | NoticZ | </ul>'; |
| 06:08.22 | NoticZ | </li></ul>; |
| 06:11.56 | bwelker | right |
| 06:11.58 | bwelker | hold on |
| 06:12.02 | bwelker | it's a tough one |
| 06:18.57 | bwelker | ok |
| 06:19.00 | bwelker | i think i got it |
| 06:19.20 | bwelker | read the file with file_get_contents |
| 06:19.27 | NoticZ | k |
| 06:19.36 | bwelker | then run it through this: |
| 06:19.54 | bwelker | $result = preg_replace('/(\$desc\[\''.$value.'\''\][^;]+;)/', '/* $1 */', $subject); |
| 06:20.09 | bwelker | where $value is the key for the product |
| 06:20.27 | bwelker | be careful though, there may be some smilies in there... |
| 06:21.02 | bwelker | http://uphpu.pastebin.com/m3c27ffaa |
| 06:21.15 | bwelker | use that, no smileys, and a minor typo was removed |
| 06:21.40 | bwelker | then after you run the contents through that, save the contents to the file again |
| 06:21.48 | bwelker | and you should be good |
| 06:22.13 | bwelker | although if there are any ; in your description it will cause all sorts of errors |
| 06:22.24 | bwelker | so be wary of those |
| 06:22.46 | NoticZ | thanks, I will give it a shot.. I have it checking to make sure and if there is is backslashes it |
| 06:22.52 | NoticZ | so what is iohelix? |
| 06:22.57 | bwelker | my website |
| 06:23.15 | NoticZ | stand for anything? |
| 06:23.20 | bwelker | nope |
| 06:23.28 | NoticZ | sweet, best kind :) |
| 06:23.35 | bwelker | just a couple of cool sounding syllables put together |
| 06:24.09 | bwelker | where did you find it from? |
| 06:26.16 | NoticZ | :) member area of uphou |
| 06:26.19 | NoticZ | uphpu |
| 06:27.08 | NoticZ | I am on there just no info... http://www.durangedesign.com/ |
| 06:35.52 | bwelker | yeah, that's what i thought |
| 06:37.32 | NoticZ | how long you been working with php? |
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| 14:08.11 | mindjuju | ~yow |
| 14:08.25 | mindjuju | ~cookie |
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| 15:22.09 | wps | ha ha ha |
| 15:22.24 | mindjuju | go go gadget FF2 with Scrapbook plugin! |
| 15:22.37 | wps | scrapbook? |
| 15:22.44 | wps | what kind of hero are you? |
| 15:22.59 | mindjuju | scrapbook is awesome |
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| 15:23.05 | mindjuju | it's a spidering prog |
| 15:23.24 | mindjuju | and it works, not like that piece of junk httpf or what ever it was called |
| 15:24.25 | mindjuju | HTTrack - that's what it was called |
| 15:24.32 | mindjuju | never worked for me |
| 15:26.01 | _psychic_ | check out the current no spin poll - http://www.foxnews.com/oreilly/# |
| 15:26.42 | mgeary | hmmm. something missing there.... |
| 15:26.57 | _psychic_ | How most awesomely ironic. |
| 15:27.20 | mgeary | right-wingers *do* acknowledge that Fox is blatantly biased, right? |
| 15:28.04 | _psychic_ | Depends how far right I guess. |
| 15:28.13 | mgeary | i suppose |
| 15:28.14 | _psychic_ | I have relatives who love Hannity and watch Fox. |
| 15:28.17 | mindjuju | as long as left-wingers concede the same on NPR and other news outlets |
| 15:28.21 | _psychic_ | But it's mostly out of ignorance. |
| 15:28.22 | mindjuju | :) |
| 15:28.25 | mgeary | i mean, i know that NPR has a left-leaning bias. I don't think it gets anywhere near as crazy as Fox, but at least i acknowledge it |
| 15:28.33 | _psychic_ | NPR isn't that bad. |
| 15:28.36 | mgeary | but NPR is awesome |
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| 15:28.40 | _psychic_ | HuffPo is getting worse and worse. |
| 15:28.49 | _psychic_ | And dailykos is mostly just ranting now. |
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| 15:29.00 | mgeary | it's so refreshing to go from Hannity's raves to All Things Considered. It's like opening a fresh window |
| 15:29.21 | mindjuju | though truthfully, i haven't watched fox in years |
| 15:29.26 | _psychic_ | I can't listen to Hannity. |
| 15:29.29 | _psychic_ | Evar. |
| 15:29.33 | mindjuju | well, err..., fox news, not chan 13 |
| 15:29.39 | mindjuju | simpsons, family guy on that channel |
| 15:35.40 | mindjuju | wps, you around? |
| 15:35.58 | unum | I want to start something like tannenbaum does on a local scale |
| 15:36.47 | wps | yes |
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| 15:56.16 | timinator | morning gents |
| 15:56.27 | mindjuju | morning timinator |
| 15:56.41 | timinator | sup bro |
| 15:57.35 | orsonj | mornin' |
| 16:04.39 | mgeary | so, all this hubub about how torture is so necessary on our enemies, and now, gee, it turns out that the evidence produced from torture is inadmissible: http://tinyurl.com/5k2k9z |
| 16:05.20 | mindjuju | mgeary - inadmissible and unusable are two different things |
| 16:05.38 | mgeary | ahh, so you're suggesting we bypass the legal system. good point |
| 16:05.46 | mgeary | ;) |
| 16:05.47 | mindjuju | though dataw0lf was mentioning the quality of intel could be questionable - on which i have no stats, so can't really argue |
| 16:05.49 | Utah_Dave | I think it's horrible that we've been torturing people. I don't care if they're our enemies |
| 16:06.11 | mgeary | oh, come on, Utah_Dave, just ask yourself, who would Jesus torture? |
| 16:06.30 | mindjuju | mgeary, that's right, cause, i mean, hell is such a right place, no? |
| 16:06.40 | mindjuju | hear they are really friendly there |
| 16:06.52 | mindjuju | a mit bit roasty, boat you know, it's the dry heat |
| 16:07.29 | orsonj | reminds me of the joke about the farmer who went to hell |
| 16:08.23 | orsonj | sorry |
| 16:09.32 | Utah_Dave | I don't think our prisoners should live in a cushy environment, but I can't believe that torture has become an option for our government |
| 16:09.55 | mgeary | i'm trying to figure out which of my comments mindjuju was replying to with the hell thing |
| 16:10.30 | Utah_Dave | I wonder what Thomas Jefferson or Benjamin Franklin would think about us torturing prisoners |
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| 16:10.47 | mindjuju | this one mgeary - (10:06:18 AM) mgeary: oh, come on, Utah_Dave, just ask yourself, who would Jesus torture? |
| 16:10.52 | orsonj | farmer goes to hell. he doesn't seem to be uncomfortable. Devil asks why. He responds "It's just like working the fields in July" Devil turns up the heat. Farmer still fine, responds "It's like working in the silos in August." Devil gets mad and turns it to freezing. Comes back and farmer is partying. Devil asks why, farmer responds "<insert rival team> made it all the way!!!" |
| 16:14.06 | unum | Utah_Dave: as long as they weren't anglo thomas jefferson would probably be fine with it |
| 16:14.11 | mgeary | ahh, i gotcha mindjuju |
| 16:15.12 | mgeary | i guess we could segue into a discussion on what hell is at this point, but mixing guns, politics, wal*mart AND religion into one room might just be too much |
| 16:15.23 | mindjuju | true that mgeary |
| 16:15.34 | mindjuju | and don't forget Tasers |
| 16:16.02 | unum | I didn't understand hell until I read plato's republic |
| 16:16.10 | mgeary | and those violent discussions on jbot's gender |
| 16:16.24 | mindjuju | yeah, how could people think jbot is a girl? |
| 16:16.28 | mindjuju | he's dating a fembot |
| 16:16.37 | mindjuju | ~jbot |
| 16:16.38 | jbot | i guess jbot is a hack!, or known to have only said one useful thing. a tool, or dating the fembots, or [TK]D-Fender's b*tch, or suck, or a pain in the ass |
| 16:16.43 | unum | I guess I should have worded that "my understanding of hell came from plato's republic" |
| 16:16.58 | mindjuju | course, though, i guess a girl could just as easily date the fembots |
| 16:17.22 | unum | I think jbot refers to herself as her |
| 16:17.30 | orsonj | I hear some politition wants wal*mart to sell taser shells to religious nutcases that get bot genders mixed up |
| 16:17.52 | mindjuju | jbot, are you a boy? |
| 16:17.56 | mgeary | ~dogpile orsonj |
| 16:18.06 | mindjuju | jbot, dance |
| 16:18.17 | orsonj | ~rlart |
| 16:18.18 | jbot | takes a rusty axe and swings it violently, taking thebigdog's head off |
| 16:18.20 | mindjuju | jbot is foob'd |
| 16:18.34 | orsonj | tell that to thebigdog |
| 16:19.48 | mgeary | http://www.damninteresting.com/?p=495 |
| 16:22.39 | unum | ~dance |
| 16:23.22 | wps | are PHP errors produced from CLI PHP scripts written out to the same PHP log as errors from Apapche PHP scripts? |
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| 16:24.09 | unum | I think that's system dependentent |
| 16:24.20 | unum | so it depends on if you use the same php.ini file for both |
| 16:24.33 | unum | or if they both say to write them there :) |
| 16:24.49 | unum | usually my cli php.ini tells php to write errors to the screen |
| 16:53.46 | wps | don't eat theseâ¦Â they're nasty |
| 16:53.46 | wps | http://welchs.com/products/food-and-snacks/fruit-n-yogurt |
| 16:55.34 | mgeary | yogurt is only good as yogurt |
| 16:55.35 | _psychic_ | solid "yogurt" == nasty |
| 16:55.39 | _psychic_ | exactly. |
| 16:56.04 | mgeary | no yogurt pretzels, yogurt candy, yogurt balls with fruit inside, nada |
| 16:57.35 | mindjuju | what about Indian food? Saag Paneer? |
| 16:57.44 | mindjuju | course though, that 's more of a cheese |
| 16:57.51 | wps | they looked good so I bought an entire bulk box at Costco |
| 16:57.55 | wps | what a waste of money |
| 16:59.33 | DexterTheDragon | thats one messed up website |
| 17:08.16 | timinator | did you guys see the back to school sales at ShopKo and Walmart? |
| 17:08.22 | timinator | notebooks for 5-10 cents |
| 17:08.35 | timinator | boxes of crayons for 20 cents |
| 17:08.39 | timinator | crazy stuff |
| 17:09.01 | wps | I'm surprised that Shopko is still in business |
| 17:09.05 | wps | I don't know anyone that shops there |
| 17:09.12 | wps | same with K-mart and Sears |
| 17:10.03 | orsonj | K-mart particularly |
| 17:10.14 | wps | yeah |
| 17:10.21 | bwelker | hey timinator: http://uphpu.pastebin.com/f776efc9a |
| 17:10.31 | bwelker | you left mere moments before i posted that yesterday |
| 17:10.33 | orsonj | I see more people in Shopko than K-mart (well, I go to Shopko more, so...) |
| 17:11.28 | timinator | that's awesome man.... thank you |
| 17:12.04 | bwelker | seriously, I was in the process of pasting and you logged out |
| 17:12.08 | bwelker | but you're welcome |
| 17:12.14 | bwelker | it was fun |
| 17:12.34 | bwelker | not heavily tested though |
| 17:12.49 | bwelker | so give it some strange ones and make sure it works well first |
| 17:15.30 | bwelker | but i'm out, taking care of my little girl today |
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| 17:19.38 | thebigdog | we need a lunch in bountiful this week |
| 17:20.19 | olds | timinator: shorter version of the gcf : http://uphpu.pastebin.com/m66fb1849 |
| 17:23.21 | timinator | NICE |
| 17:23.46 | timinator | love those single line functions |
| 17:29.29 | mgeary | this one's for mindjuju |
| 17:31.02 | mindjuju | love that song |
| 17:31.56 | mgeary | but there's no Unh or Tss |
| 17:32.01 | mgeary | eh? eh? :) |
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| 17:38.55 | mgeary | hey, what would it take for www.domain.com and domain.com to share the same PHP session space? |
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| 17:40.32 | DexterTheDragon | redirect one to the other |
| 17:41.12 | tierra | who's got a discount code for UTOS registration? |
| 17:41.34 | wps | mindjuju: |
| 17:41.39 | wps | (without the colon) |
| 17:41.47 | wps | (he had it removed as part of his operation) |
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| 17:42.12 | mindjuju | yo tierra |
| 17:42.16 | tierra | hey |
| 17:42.18 | mindjuju | i got Motts |
| 17:42.25 | mgeary | but do you have Moxie? |
| 17:43.09 | wps | the beverage? |
| 17:43.25 | mindjuju | nope |
| 17:43.31 | mindjuju | don't do energy drinks |
| 17:43.40 | mindjuju | darn, there aren't any Mott's commercials on youtube |
| 17:43.50 | mindjuju | but it was a funny applesauce commercial |
| 17:43.55 | wps | moxie isn't an energy drink |
| 17:44.01 | wps | it's the first mass produced carbonated beverage |
| 17:44.02 | wps | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moxie |
| 17:44.29 | wps | 1884 |
| 17:44.47 | mindjuju | ah |
| 17:45.35 | mgeary | wow |
| 17:45.38 | mgeary | Moxie was said to cure ailments ranging from softening of the brain to âloss of manhood.â |
| 17:45.54 | wps | impressive |
| 17:46.24 | wps | is there a way to delete a file off of a remote server using rsync? |
| 17:46.44 | wps | obviously if I sync the parent dirs, and the file is missing on the first server, it will be removed from the second |
| 17:46.51 | wps | but what if I don't want to sync the entire parent dir? |
| 17:47.22 | mgeary | are you asking because you only have rsync access, and not ssh? |
| 17:47.27 | wps | no |
| 17:47.51 | mgeary | you could use --include and --exclude to make so only that file was matched, i suppose |
| 17:48.29 | wps | I have a script that keeps to servers sync'd |
| 17:48.46 | wps | but the parent directory is so large that the rsync times out |
| 17:49.02 | wps | (because NOC has an SSH time-out that they won't increase the time limit on) |
| 17:49.06 | mgeary | nice |
| 17:49.15 | wps | it doesn't make a lot of sense to rsync the entire directory each time anyway |
| 17:49.39 | wps | so I am trying to figure out a want to change my script so that it just moves the files that have changedâ¦Â and doesn't have to scan the entire dir |
| 17:49.49 | wps | copying the files over with SCP works great |
| 17:50.01 | wps | â¦for new files that have been added |
| 17:50.10 | Utah_Dave | wps: once you've got everything copied up, an rsync should be pretty fast even with a lot of files |
| 17:50.21 | mgeary | yeah, how large is large? |
| 17:50.23 | Utah_Dave | at least, that's been my experience |
| 17:50.37 | wps | but for files have been removed from serverâ¦Â I need a way to remove them from the remote server |
| 17:51.21 | Utah_Dave | rsync has an option to delete from the second server |
| 17:51.27 | wps | rightâ¦Â and I have been using that |
| 17:51.29 | wps | and it works great |
| 17:51.40 | wps | except with this SSH timeout |
| 17:51.50 | wps | so I have to come up with a different solution |
| 17:52.20 | mgeary | wps: can't you rsync a subdirectory instead? |
| 17:52.25 | wps | I guess I could SCP the new files overâ¦Â and then SSH onto the remote box and "rm" the ones that need to be removed |
| 17:52.50 | mgeary | wps: are you using rsync's --checksum flag? |
| 17:53.00 | wps | I believe so |
| 17:53.06 | mgeary | that's your problem |
| 17:53.09 | mgeary | it goes much slower that way |
| 17:53.13 | mgeary | though it is nice |
| 17:53.35 | Utah_Dave | try --delete-after it's supposed to be a bit faster |
| 17:53.54 | Utah_Dave | I don't understand why your rsync ssh is timing out, when scp isn't timing out. |
| 17:53.58 | mgeary | of course, without that, any file not pushed with rysnc will be flagged for moving, but once you've done that once, you should be okay |
| 17:54.00 | Utah_Dave | They both run over ssh |
| 17:54.04 | mgeary | Utah_Dave: it's because it's doing all the checksumming |
| 17:54.11 | mgeary | i've had similar issues |
| 17:54.12 | Utah_Dave | I see |
| 17:54.29 | wps | those who administer our server have set an inactivity time out for SSH |
| 17:54.32 | mgeary | that's my theory, anyway |
| 17:54.48 | Utah_Dave | wps, I know, but scp is SSH as well |
| 17:54.50 | wps | it does not recognize the rsync scanning (the scan it does before it starts it's action) as activty |
| 17:55.08 | wps | rightâ¦Â but it's a process running, not someone actively typing |
| 17:55.22 | mgeary | yeah, SCP has constant network activity, whereas the checksumming happens on the remote machine and doesn't register as network activity |
| 17:55.35 | wps | right |
| 17:56.01 | mgeary | wps: are there a lot of non-code files involved? media files? |
| 17:56.09 | Utah_Dave | interesting |
| 17:56.15 | wps | it's 98% media files |
| 17:56.21 | mgeary | yeah |
| 17:56.27 | mgeary | those are a pain to checksum |
| 17:56.41 | DexterTheDragon | there might be a way to tell the ssh tunnel to send null data every so often so it doesn't timeout |
| 17:57.09 | mgeary | wps: are media files placed on the remote machine in any way other than rsync? |
| 17:57.35 | wps | no |
| 17:58.04 | mgeary | are there a lot of subdirs? |
| 17:58.05 | wps | (although not always with the same rsyncâ¦Â we have two different scriptsâ¦Â one that is automatic and one that is manual) |
| 17:58.07 | wps | yes, a lot |
| 17:58.11 | mgeary | ok |
| 17:58.40 | wps | this is a director that the non-programmers use (our artists) to get media on the production servers |
| 17:59.04 | mgeary | well, you'll want to do an rsync without the checksum flag. It's going to tell you that anything that wasn't copied over with rsync will need to be copied again |
| 17:59.18 | mgeary | but once you do that, you should be good going forward. It will be much, much faster |
| 17:59.20 | wps | they mount a directory via SMB, drop files in or delete files outâ¦Â the script does an SVN status and then checks thinks in our out of SVNâ¦Â and then syncs the changes up to the production cluster |
| 17:59.39 | mgeary | nice |
| 17:59.46 | wps | I have to take a phone call |
| 17:59.57 | wps | thanks for the ideasâ¦Â I'll be back in a bit |
| 18:02.13 | DexterTheDragon | wps: http://pthree.org/2008/04/16/keeping-your-ssh-connection-alive/ you could try passing one of those to the ssh tunnel that rsync uses to avoid the timeout |
| 18:02.41 | mgeary | hmm |
| 18:02.42 | mgeary | cool |
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| 18:09.16 | Utah_Dave | DexterTheDragon: nice link |
| 18:55.20 | mgeary | grooooooaaaan |
| 18:58.34 | mgeary | what a waste of a brilliant mind |
| 19:01.39 | mindjuju | yuck, with your skill set, that makes for v expensive tech support |
| 19:03.20 | bradym | i'm setting a 404 header, but getting a blank page instead of seeing the page i've set in my .htaccess for 404 errors.. anyone seen this happen before? |
| 19:04.15 | mgeary | "we need to share our outlook address book" <-- that's not part of imap. Please go away |
| 19:06.06 | mgeary | what does the log file say? |
| 19:07.58 | bradym | it's showing a 404 error |
| 19:08.15 | bradym | 127.0.0.1 - - [22/Jul/2008:12:06:09 -0700] "GET /test2.php HTTP/1.1" 404 28 ... |
| 19:11.00 | wps | I think I found a solution |
| 19:11.16 | wps | using an excludes/include list as mgeary suggested and then the delete-excludes flag |
| 19:11.40 | mgeary | you still checksumming? |
| 19:11.52 | wps | no, going to turn that off either way |
| 19:12.08 | mgeary | cool |
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| 19:12.19 | mgeary | did you see about those keepAlive flags you can send ssh? |
| 19:12.23 | wps | I think checksum is overkill for what I am doing |
| 19:12.28 | mgeary | yeah |
| 19:12.41 | mgeary | checksum is great if you can't control how the files get placed there, but if you can, it's not needed |
| 19:12.54 | wps | yes, I like the idea of not wasting cycles scanning the entire directories though |
| 19:13.22 | wps | there are only one or two files going up each time and it seems really wasteful (on production web servers) to scan the entire directory of thousands ad thousands of images each time |
| 19:13.34 | mgeary | totally |
| 19:14.38 | wps | I'll still use rsync, but just use it a file at a time instead of directories |
| 19:15.06 | mgeary | well |
| 19:15.16 | mgeary | if you don't use checksum, the scanning is really very, very fast |
| 19:16.10 | wps | perhaps I'll run it once without that here to see how it performsâ¦Â before I start changing my script |
| 19:20.53 | Utah_Dave | wps: we rsync gigs of stuff every night and it's really fast when there aren't many changes |
| 19:25.12 | wps | the cron runs every 15, so I'll know if it works (without the check sum) here in 5 minutes |
| 19:26.14 | wps | one thing that I don't get is that it seems to work when I fire off the script manually |
| 19:26.33 | wps | why would it work when I run the script manually but not when cron runs it? |
| 19:33.00 | thebigdog | anyone know a good javascript lib that has dynamic select options? |
| 19:33.14 | wps | dynamic select? |
| 19:33.47 | thebigdog | options |
| 19:34.03 | thebigdog | where select 1 drives options in select 2 |
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| 19:50.22 | mgeary | thebigdog: you want to link 2+ <select> inputs? |
| 19:50.34 | thebigdog | yeah i found it though |
| 19:50.37 | mgeary | k |
| 19:51.13 | thebigdog | basically where select1 dictates what is in select2 |
| 19:51.22 | thebigdog | if you know of a lib that has that let me konw |
| 19:51.23 | mgeary | yeah |
| 19:51.44 | wps | I have a few functions that I wrote that do it if you want them |
| 19:51.46 | mgeary | i've hand-rolled a bunch of those, but haven't used a tool that abstracts that out |
| 19:51.51 | wps | it's not a lib, but it does what you have described |
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| 19:57.23 | thebigdog | i found one 2 libs that do it...ill check them out |
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| 20:21.56 | mindjuju | 4 beandog - http://www.nbc11.com/slideshow/family/16941678/detail.html |
| 20:23.47 | beandog | mindjuju, oh man |
| 20:24.02 | beandog | a hammer would have taken care of that |
| 20:24.21 | mindjuju | heh, i wondered how i'd approach that |
| 20:24.33 | beandog | sell tickets |
| 20:24.34 | beandog | :) |
| 20:34.29 | mgeary | what a waste of a perfectly good jar |
| 20:35.15 | mindjuju | oh wow! |
| 20:35.27 | mindjuju | hulu.com added Weird Science to their movie line up! |
| 20:35.29 | wps | I wish I lived in 1850 |
| 20:35.42 | wps | or even 1900 would be alright |
| 20:35.43 | mindjuju | meh, it's close enough to 5p that i can watch and code at the same time |
| 20:36.18 | mindjuju | 1850? |
| 20:36.26 | wps | yupâ¦Â any time before electronics |
| 20:37.07 | mindjuju | before ? |
| 20:37.08 | mgeary | meh. if i lived back then, i'd have to earn a living doing something disreputable, instead of programming. Maybe politics |
| 20:37.37 | wps | mgeary would be a gunslinger |
| 20:38.43 | wps | I'm just getting burned out with technology and business |
| 20:38.46 | wps | I want to be a farmer |
| 20:39.01 | wps | something more blue collar |
| 20:39.11 | wps | our lives are too busy and stressful |
| 20:39.46 | wps | perhaps landscaping |
| 20:39.50 | wps | or a forest ranger |
| 20:40.01 | olds | get off my land hillbilly |
| 20:40.27 | olds | :) |
| 20:40.48 | wps | back when they lynched people in the town square instead of slapping them on the wrist of wasting ten years in court proceedings |
| 20:40.57 | wps | s/of/or/ |
| 20:41.03 | mindjuju | i'd work in an apothecary selling "MJ's Rowdy and Cantankerous Wonder Drink" guaranteed to cure gout, fatigue, headaches, blindness, bad breath and general - all purpose fire starting fluid |
| 20:41.23 | wps | :) |
| 20:42.09 | mindjuju | wps, you should move to Bora Bora |
| 20:42.22 | mindjuju | that's where i want to move |
| 20:42.32 | wps | eeek, no |
| 20:42.51 | mindjuju | where you just sit on a catamaran and fish for your dinner |
| 20:42.54 | wps | I hate salt water, humidity, sand, and sweating |
| 20:43.00 | mindjuju | oh |
| 20:43.18 | wps | I should move to Alaska |
| 20:43.43 | mindjuju | yeah, but you'd be frozen like 363 days out of the year |
| 20:44.04 | mgeary | i wouldn't mind Alaska in Spring and Fall, perhaps, but the whole solstice thing is too wacky |
| 20:44.12 | wps | Alaska isn't the arctic |
| 20:44.26 | wps | most of Alaska is like Northern Idaho (save the sun being gone thing) |
| 20:48.48 | mindjuju | JUNEAU - Average annual high temperature - 47.2 |
| 20:48.51 | mindjuju | that's just sick |
| 20:49.06 | mgeary | well don't go to Juneau |
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| 20:56.24 | orsonj | I don't suppose Anchorage would be any better |
| 20:57.34 | thebigdog | i lived in anchorage for years |
| 20:57.43 | thebigdog | it is actually really nice place to lvie |
| 20:58.06 | mindjuju | yeah, just like living in your freezer, but better |
| 20:58.11 | thebigdog | haha |
| 20:58.15 | mindjuju | more space |
| 20:58.15 | thebigdog | summers are great |
| 20:58.20 | thebigdog | never over 84 |
| 20:58.30 | thebigdog | winters never lower and -84 |
| 20:58.42 | thebigdog | ok...it happened once for me is all |
| 20:59.06 | mindjuju | yeah, my freezer don't get that cold |
| 20:59.11 | thebigdog | i had so much fun there as a teenager |
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| 21:13.55 | Utah_Dave | I spent a month working in Anchorage. |
| 21:13.56 | Utah_Dave | I loved it |
| 21:14.33 | Utah_Dave | When I got there the lake by my hotel was frozen solid. |
| 21:14.56 | mindjuju | so wait, it was melted at one point? |
| 21:14.56 | Utah_Dave | Over the course of a few weeks, it melted and then float planes buzzed the hotel every few minutes |
| 21:15.11 | Utah_Dave | it was awesome. I got some great pictures |
| 21:15.16 | mindjuju | wow! must have been global warming! |
| 21:17.49 | wps | nice! |
| 21:18.13 | wps | we just got a job posted to the _utah_ _php_ users group for a C++ position in Nevada! |
| 21:19.43 | _psychic_ | It'd be relevant to this channel, but maybe not the website. :) |
| 21:21.06 | wps | recruiters drive me nuts |
| 21:21.19 | wps | anyone in here used or benefited from a recruiter? |
| 21:21.44 | timinator | that's a negative, good buddy |
| 21:22.11 | mindjuju | well, i did go through a recruiter but that was about 12 years ago |
| 21:22.11 | wps | seems like the internet would have made recruiters obsolete |
| 21:22.14 | orsonj | I think I got a t-shirt from one |
| 21:22.56 | timinator | one would think |
| 21:23.43 | orsonj | I think the benefit they can travel to you for an interview? |
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| 21:24.35 | wps | google_translate('en', $orsonj['comments'], LAST); |
| 21:24.56 | orsonj | s/fit/fit is that/ |
| 21:25.04 | wps | ah |
| 21:25.24 | timinator | Who hires recruiters though? Companies with more money than time, that want to lower the signal to noise ratio. |
| 21:25.31 | orsonj | at least for university recruiting anyway. That is what they seem to do around here. |
| 21:26.52 | orsonj | My brother-in-law does recruiting for his company. It costs the company three days of an employee's time and they get a bunch of resumes and interview a dozen people. |
| 21:27.16 | orsonj | maybe it is two employees... |
| 21:27.55 | orsonj | As for other recruiting techniques, I'm not sure how it works. |
| 21:28.26 | mindjuju | Now a headhunter on the other hand |
| 21:28.36 | mindjuju | is a different beast all together |
| 21:28.57 | wps | aren't they the same ting? |
| 21:29.00 | wps | aren't they the same thing? |
| 21:29.40 | mindjuju | headhunters are executive level positions |
| 21:29.55 | mindjuju | a lot of companies only hire through headhunters, at least in Houston |
| 21:30.10 | mindjuju | because of the cost / risk associated with hiring upper level execs |
| 21:30.20 | mgeary | recruiters are spendy ($$) |
| 21:31.47 | wps | in my cron tab |
| 21:31.57 | wps | I was using &> to direct output to /dev/null |
| 21:32.08 | wps | I want to make sure I understand the synxtax |
| 21:32.22 | wps | I was told that 1> and 2> could be used to redirect more specifically |
| 21:32.36 | wps | 1> being the output and 2> being errors |
| 21:32.38 | wps | is that correct? |
| 21:33.07 | wps | does &> catch both?, so the only reason to use 1> and 2> would be if I want the two types to go to two different log files? |
| 21:33.08 | orsonj | for some shells, yes. I'm not positive on cron |
| 21:33.16 | mgeary | hey, going back to our discussion a few days ago about what googlebot can index, does anyone have any insights into how google treats content that is injected into a page via javascript/ajax? |
| 21:41.02 | orsonj | as best as I can tell, not very well. |
| 21:41.24 | wps | it doen't seem like the bots would hang around and wait for the page to change |
| 21:44.20 | wps | tail is a cool utility |
| 21:47.28 | orsonj | wps: I think "command > file 2>&1" is the bash way of doing it. |
| 21:47.36 | orsonj | 47 15 * * * echo $SHELL > /home/orsonj/crontest.txt |
| 21:47.45 | orsonj | that will tell you what shell cron is using |
| 21:47.57 | orsonj | mine seems to use "dash" |
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| 21:54.17 | beandog_ | http://www.boingboing.net/200807221001.jpg |
| 21:54.22 | beandog_ | rice! |
| 21:54.34 | beandog_ | who knew there was a rice council of america. |
| 21:55.13 | Utah_Dave | that hilarious. Every product has to be sexy! |
| 21:55.42 | orsonj | who knew there was a Cecchetti Council of America |
| 21:56.08 | beandog_ | Utah_Dave, plus its from like 1950 |
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| 22:03.14 | thebigdog | wps - http://www.dsj.net/compedge/shellbasics1.html |
| 22:03.25 | thebigdog | that is a good read on pipes and redirects in shells |
| 22:03.30 | wps | thanks |
| 22:04.23 | thebigdog | here is another one - http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/ioredirintro.html |
| 22:04.28 | thebigdog | that might be better |
| 22:05.59 | beandog_ | tldp! |
| 22:05.59 | thebigdog | http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/io-redirection.html |
| 22:06.00 | beandog_ | ++ |
| 22:17.23 | orsonj | http://linuxshellaccount.blogspot.com/2008/07/basic-io-redirection-differences-in.html |
| 22:20.36 | orsonj | also, csh does >& instead of &> (bash style) |
| 22:28.22 | wps | so I build a web app for a client few years agoâ¦Â they paid me but never used it |
| 22:28.28 | wps | and now they just hired me to build it again |
| 22:28.43 | mgeary | sweet |
| 22:28.48 | wps | ;) |
| 22:29.07 | mgeary | ask them if you can just skip the build stuff and get paid for delivering them something else that they won't use |
| 22:37.13 | orsonj | so, you updated the copyright date and put their new logo in? |
| 22:38.49 | wps | not quite that easy, but yes |
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| 22:50.47 | wps | wow, I just saw someone using a laptop with 800 x 600 resolution |
| 22:51.00 | wps | they could only see 3/4 of our home page |
| 22:51.48 | orsonj | I know some people do that so they can actually read stuff |
| 22:52.01 | mgeary | "you ever taken it off any sweet jumps?" |
| 22:53.04 | orsonj | ??? |
| 22:53.53 | wps | I did |
| 22:54.56 | orsonj | wife only liked the falling over the fence scene, hated the rest of the movie |
| 22:55.05 | mgeary | yeah, i didn't like it very much |
| 22:55.14 | orsonj | haven't seen it since before I got married |
| 22:57.19 | orsonj | well, maybe not |
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| 23:20.38 | timinator | I'm out.... later guys |
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| 23:32.37 | mindjuju | thebigdog , you still around? |
| 23:41.26 | thebigdog | eys |
| 23:41.45 | thebigdog | mindjuju, yes |
| 23:41.58 | thebigdog | funny thing happend today |
| 23:42.20 | thebigdog | i cashed my check yesterday and put it in checking...it would not post until today |
| 23:42.28 | thebigdog | so i went and checked today the balance |
| 23:42.33 | thebigdog | i had like double the money |
| 23:42.39 | mindjuju | you're kidding! |
| 23:43.02 | thebigdog | come to find out my old employer moved to adp and they sent me a check direct deposit for 2 full weeks of work |
| 23:43.10 | thebigdog | haha |
| 23:43.21 | thebigdog | needles to say i got a new laptop |
| 23:43.22 | thebigdog | hehe |
| 23:43.24 | thebigdog | j/k |
| 23:43.31 | thebigdog | mindjuju, whatz up |
