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| 00:28.30 | CGI523 | ~lart macnewbold |
| 00:28.30 | jbot | pulls out a ClueBat (tm) and thwaps macnewbold |
| 00:28.42 | macnewbold | ~terminate CGI523 |
| 00:28.47 | macnewbold | ~kill-9 CGI523 |
| 00:28.48 | CGI523 | yipes! |
| 00:28.59 | macnewbold | darn bot |
| 00:29.02 | macnewbold | too slow |
| 00:29.10 | macnewbold | sup, CGI523? |
| 00:29.17 | CGI523 | not much, just testing out everything |
| 00:29.30 | CGI523 | looks like we're up and running and it's not even 6:30p! |
| 00:29.33 | CGI523 | wahoo! |
| 00:29.33 | macnewbold | interesting... |
| 00:29.50 | macnewbold | ~shakespeare mindjuju |
| 00:29.50 | jbot | ACTION stands up and quotes Shakespeare: mindjuju - Thou impertinent elf-skinned scullian! |
| 00:30.00 | CGI523 | if you want to hear the stream, go to http://mail.billgood.us |
| 00:30.01 | macnewbold | not fair using two nicks to lart me, mj |
| 00:30.11 | CGI523 | well, i need to start streaming |
| 00:30.15 | macnewbold | I'd love to, but if I could listen live I'd be there at the meeting |
| 00:30.21 | macnewbold | wife planned some family thing :( |
| 00:30.26 | macnewbold | family in from out of town |
| 00:30.31 | CGI523 | no worries, i'm recording |
| 00:30.51 | CGI523 | plus, i've started to retask my time so that i'm with my family more, and doing more quality time with work |
| 00:30.56 | CGI523 | instead of quantity time with work |
| 00:31.00 | CGI523 | it's working out |
| 00:31.29 | CGI523 | we still need to do lunch one day |
| 00:31.50 | CGI523 | i'll see if i can time it soon so that i'm up there for the red5 deploy and then we can eat at himalayian kitchen |
| 00:31.54 | CGI523 | love that place |
| 00:46.23 | macnewbold | ping mindjuju or CGI523 |
| 00:46.37 | macnewbold | the link for the stream is giving "Server taking too long to respond" |
| 00:47.02 | macnewbold | eric dawes who works with Kevin/Dexter here at CG is trying to listen from home |
| 00:47.57 | macnewbold | anyway, if you get it fixed have kevin or Erik Johnson let Eric Dawes know how to get in. I'm on my way out and won't be here. |
| 00:48.07 | macnewbold | good luck with the meeting, y'all, sorry I couldn't be there |
| 00:48.20 | macnewbold | and mindjuju, yes we need to go out to lunch at the Himilayan Kitchen soemtime soon |
| 00:48.26 | macnewbold | indian food is too tasty to pass up |
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| 01:08.22 | Utah_Dave | mindjuju: has the meeting started? |
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| 01:20.32 | mindjuju | it's starting now |
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| 01:29.00 | beandog | freak Im finally done with work |
| 01:29.02 | beandog | hows the meeting? |
| 01:29.35 | josephscott | just got started |
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| 01:31.39 | mindjuju | sup beandog |
| 01:32.09 | beandog | mindjuju, you at the meeting right now? |
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| 03:57.41 | jgiboney | on this page in IE7 why does the last line of the plot not appear till I select it? http://expresslanevideo.com/singlemovie.php?movieid=724 |
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| 04:37.11 | jgiboney | I fixed my problem on the other page (i don't know how) but it is still happening here http://expresslanevideo.com/singlemovie.php?movieid=1222 |
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| 13:22.42 | mindjuju | anybody around? |
| 13:40.07 | mindjuju | sup bwelker |
| 13:40.17 | bwelker | sup |
| 13:40.27 | mindjuju | was just going to ask how to do an auto datetime stamp n mysql 5 |
| 13:40.43 | bwelker | on every update, or just create? |
| 13:40.44 | mindjuju | in mssql, i would choose datetime for field type, and for default value put now() |
| 13:40.55 | mindjuju | no, just on create |
| 13:41.08 | mindjuju | is it just the timestamp field type? |
| 13:42.50 | bwelker | you can either do a datetime with default NOW( ), or you can do: TIMESTAMP NOT NULL DEFAULT CURRENT_TIMESTAMP |
| 13:43.06 | bwelker | both work and behave the same |
| 13:43.26 | mindjuju | awesome, thx! |
| 13:43.36 | bwelker | but with both, make sure to leave them blank when you enter data |
| 13:49.53 | bwelker | also, when entering data, both datetime and timestamp fields will accept CURRENT_TIMESTAMP as well as NOW( ), but only timestamp fields will accept NULL (unless your datetime field is set to accept NULL, then it's value will be NULL) |
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| 14:53.35 | bwelker | and if you're a techno fan, and have never heard of this song... well, you're just not a true techno fan |
| 14:54.46 | bwelker | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hS65n6sz0xo |
| 14:56.28 | bwelker | another classic - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ldr4qgyvLBA |
| 14:56.57 | bwelker | more - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9gWA491H4U |
| 15:14.15 | macnewbold | ~rlart |
| 15:14.16 | jbot | gives dataw0lf a "free" copy of Windows and then charges double for "Upgrades" |
| 15:14.21 | macnewbold | hehe |
| 15:14.39 | bwelker | did you walk into your office just for that? |
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| 15:41.05 | wps | I just had IT tell me that it isn't a good practice to restart Apache frequently |
| 15:41.19 | wps | huh? |
| 15:41.30 | wps | that sounds like "I don't want to do it" |
| 15:41.36 | bwelker | sure does |
| 15:41.49 | bwelker | what is it, like 20 keystrokes? |
| 15:41.53 | wps | how in the world could restarting apache have any negative effects on anything |
| 15:42.02 | DexterTheDragon | apache is usually restarted nightly to rotate logs |
| 15:42.21 | wps | interestingâ¦Â I didn't know it restarted itself when the logs were rotated |
| 15:42.27 | bwelker | the server is down for 2.2 seconds, and all the business you'll ever get will hit the site in those 2.2 seconds |
| 15:42.43 | bwelker | and you'll lose all your business |
| 15:42.45 | wps | that's not even a problemâ¦Â the site is load balanced |
| 15:42.58 | bwelker | well then, go put some smack down |
| 15:43.35 | bwelker | it's amazing how my winamp favorites playlist is playing all the songs I really like |
| 15:43.46 | bwelker | it's like it *knows* |
| 15:43.50 | DexterTheDragon | yeah the apache processes have to restart to establish new links to the new log files |
| 15:44.24 | DexterTheDragon | so it actually is a good practice to restart them |
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| 15:45.29 | DexterTheDragon | and if you do a graceful restart its not going to drop any connections |
| 15:45.46 | wps | yeah |
| 15:45.47 | bwelker | how do you do a graceful restart? |
| 15:45.48 | mgeary | we've got a server running 300 virtual hosts, with more being added at least every couple of days. I restart that webserver very frequently |
| 15:46.08 | DexterTheDragon | /etc/init.d/httpd graceful |
| 15:46.12 | bwelker | ahhh |
| 15:46.17 | mgeary | apachectl graceful |
| 15:46.43 | mindjuju | sup gents! |
| 15:46.50 | bwelker | blargh on you |
| 15:47.02 | DexterTheDragon | morning mindjuju |
| 15:47.22 | mindjuju | i changed my server's grub menu list making XP the default OS, and then rebooted the computer to act once again as a mail server, all over putty! |
| 15:47.26 | mindjuju | awesome! |
| 15:47.26 | timinator | morning mindjuju |
| 15:47.38 | bwelker | you missed my old school song posts above mindjuju |
| 15:47.53 | bwelker | putty will rule the world someday |
| 15:48.12 | bwelker | it's too late, you missed it |
| 15:48.20 | mindjuju | dag! |
| 15:48.22 | bwelker | lol |
| 15:48.24 | bwelker | jk |
| 15:48.29 | bwelker | you can scroll, it's okay |
| 15:48.37 | bwelker | i will allow it |
| 15:48.51 | wps | check out this site |
| 15:48.52 | wps | http://utahrealty.com/ |
| 15:48.57 | timinator | if I wanted to get into iPhone development, I'd learn ObjectiveC, right? And if so, could anyone recommend a book on the subject? |
| 15:49.07 | wps | doesn't that look like one of those domain squatter templed things? |
| 15:49.12 | bwelker | it does |
| 15:49.15 | wps | it's not thoughâ¦Â it's a real site for a real company |
| 15:49.19 | bwelker | i was just thinking that |
| 15:49.28 | bwelker | fire that designer |
| 15:49.30 | timinator | wps: exactly what I thought when it loaded |
| 15:49.52 | wps | they asked me to give them a price for creating a new header imageâ¦Â I suggested they redesign the site |
| 15:49.53 | wps | :) |
| 15:50.09 | wps | the other thing that's funny⦠|
| 15:50.10 | timinator | :) |
| 15:50.15 | wps | the site is Utah Realty |
| 15:50.20 | wps | the company is Realty Utah |
| 15:50.29 | wps | confusing |
| 15:50.31 | timinator | ya |
| 15:50.44 | timinator | get them a new .ico too wps |
| 15:50.58 | bwelker | thats okay, we have an ongoing bid here for a site that looks like it was created in the geocities days, and the owner says it's the best looking site on the internet, because her retina burning background images change |
| 15:51.01 | wps | yeahâ¦Â nice huh :) |
| 15:51.18 | wps | link? |
| 15:51.20 | timinator | bwelker: LOL |
| 15:51.32 | bwelker | not sure if it's kosher , or i would |
| 15:51.56 | wps | can't be as bad as the Telline (sp?) singer site we came up with yesterday |
| 15:52.04 | timinator | bwelker: party pooper |
| 15:52.07 | bwelker | sorry |
| 15:54.13 | timinator | :) jk |
| 15:55.37 | bwelker | mindjuju: you check those links? |
| 15:55.46 | wps | anyone love goosh.org as much as me? |
| 15:56.54 | mindjuju | just finished the last one actually |
| 15:56.55 | bwelker | looks like it could be cool, if you knew how to use it |
| 15:57.04 | bwelker | aren't those good songs |
| 15:57.11 | bwelker | they're old, but classics |
| 15:57.14 | timinator | I <3 goosh.org |
| 15:57.18 | mindjuju | love the last one |
| 15:57.34 | bwelker | lol, my wife always puts >3 |
| 15:57.48 | bwelker | "I less than 3 you, honey" |
| 15:57.52 | mgeary | umm |
| 15:57.54 | bwelker | er... greater |
| 15:57.55 | mgeary | greater than 3 ;) |
| 15:57.56 | bwelker | yeah |
| 15:58.08 | timinator | LOL |
| 15:58.43 | bwelker | i think she started it as an accident, but now she does it all the time,so... |
| 15:59.16 | bwelker | anywho... sorry to hijack... back to goosh |
| 15:59.47 | orsonj | It's a two handled umbrella |
| 15:59.58 | bwelker | ~goosh |
| 16:02.05 | wps | jbot, goosh is goosh.org |
| 16:02.06 | jbot | okay, wps |
| 16:02.57 | tierra | timinator: http://developer.apple.com/iphone/ |
| 16:04.10 | timinator | is that going to be better than grabbing an ObjC O'Reilly book and reading it cover to cover first? |
| 16:04.57 | tierra | probably |
| 16:05.18 | timinator | k |
| 16:05.20 | tierra | I guess it may help to know the language first |
| 16:05.21 | timinator | thx |
| 16:05.24 | tierra | heh |
| 16:05.24 | thebigdog | or you can ask thebigdog |
| 16:05.29 | tierra | yeah |
| 16:05.40 | timinator | what's your $.02, thebigdog |
| 16:05.47 | thebigdog | about |
| 16:06.01 | tierra | that iPhone dev page has a "Learning Objective-C: A Primer" article |
| 16:06.06 | timinator | learning ObjC, specifically for iPhone dev |
| 16:06.13 | thebigdog | im down for it |
| 16:06.21 | thebigdog | i wouldnt purchase the book though |
| 16:06.23 | bwelker | lol |
| 16:06.25 | timinator | no? |
| 16:06.29 | thebigdog | i get those free |
| 16:06.37 | thebigdog | but i am thebigdog |
| 16:06.38 | timinator | just use the freebies from Apple? |
| 16:06.51 | thebigdog | yeah i would |
| 16:07.15 | thebigdog | most times the book has so much extra fluff that you never really read |
| 16:07.16 | timinator | k |
| 16:08.19 | thebigdog | tierra, dont you use a version system other than cvs and svn? |
| 16:08.30 | thebigdog | i cant remember if you where the one talking about another one |
| 16:08.41 | synic | ObjC is pretty cool |
| 16:08.51 | synic | a little whack looking, but cool |
| 16:09.07 | tierra | thebigdog: not really... I've looked into a lot of them, maybe you're thinking about Mercurial? |
| 16:09.20 | tierra | but I'm mostly all on SVN |
| 16:09.31 | thebigdog | perhaps that is the one |
| 16:10.50 | thebigdog | objc has a really different syntax |
| 16:11.18 | timinator | thebigdog: do you have a freebie book that needs a review? |
| 16:11.35 | timinator | that's not crap? |
| 16:11.36 | thebigdog | find one and i'll see if i can get it |
| 16:11.51 | thebigdog | synic, those minis rock |
| 16:11.59 | thebigdog | i have a buddy that has one pimped out |
| 16:12.07 | thebigdog | not much pimping of them...but he does |
| 16:12.07 | timinator | what IDE would one use for ObjC? |
| 16:12.11 | synic | wait, can you use Xcode and etc in Windows? |
| 16:12.12 | thebigdog | eclipse |
| 16:12.29 | DexterTheDragon | vim |
| 16:12.36 | thebigdog | synic, im not sure if you can |
| 16:12.39 | synic | timinator: all the tutorials on apple's dev page use Xcode |
| 16:13.04 | synic | which includes designing the UI, testing in on a virtual machine, signing your app, etc |
| 16:13.37 | timinator | so that's probably the one to use, huh? |
| 16:14.18 | tierra | yeah, you could probably use others, but you'll have the best luck with Xcode |
| 16:14.49 | mgeary | if you want to develop for iPhone you need an Intel Mac running 10.5, afaik |
| 16:15.00 | timinator | I'm covered there |
| 16:15.11 | tierra | I don't think you do actually |
| 16:15.15 | timinator | MBP 17" w/ 10.5 |
| 16:15.26 | timinator | :) |
| 16:15.37 | mgeary | tierra: that's what i was told by someone who knows more about it than i do (which wouldn't take much) |
| 16:16.06 | thebigdog | xcode for iphone only runs on intel mac with leopard |
| 16:16.21 | thebigdog | xcode for mac development can run on both |
| 16:16.23 | tierra | does it only work with xcode 3? |
| 16:16.32 | mgeary | thebigdog: ^^ what i said ;) |
| 16:16.35 | timinator | ah, that's what it is.... |
| 16:16.46 | thebigdog | mgeary, yes and here is the link to confirm |
| 16:16.50 | thebigdog | http://developer.apple.com/technology/xcode.html |
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| 16:17.03 | tierra | that's pretty retarded... Apple does some stupid stuff sometimes |
| 16:17.17 | synic | yeah they do |
| 16:17.18 | mgeary | tierra: well, with 800+ apps already out, they must have some folk who disagree |
| 16:17.36 | thebigdog | they are pushing their intel |
| 16:17.45 | thebigdog | but i have one so im good |
| 16:17.46 | thebigdog | hehe |
| 16:17.46 | timinator | one may comply without agreeing |
| 16:17.53 | timinator | hehe |
| 16:17.54 | tierra | I have one, but it's still 10.4 |
| 16:18.12 | tierra | they just love to push people into upgrading whenever they have the chance |
| 16:18.15 | timinator | 10.5 is worth the $$ |
| 16:18.18 | mgeary | agreed |
| 16:18.21 | mgeary | (with timinator ) |
| 16:18.32 | mgeary | (and tierra, i suppose) |
| 16:18.44 | tierra | not that I care anyway though, I'm not doing iPhone dev |
| 16:18.46 | timinator | I agree w/ tierra too |
| 16:19.11 | mgeary | i'd sometimes swear they put a slow performance leak in their hardware |
| 16:19.11 | timinator | but 10.5 is worth it |
| 16:19.25 | tierra | I haven't seen anything in 10.5 that I thought was 'worth it' |
| 16:19.26 | mgeary | the machine that was so blazing fast the day you got it just doesn't stay that way |
| 16:19.42 | mgeary | tierra: the finder improvements alone have justified it for me |
| 16:20.02 | mgeary | the way "date modified" would be sluggish about updating drove me crazy |
| 16:20.29 | tierra | I'm usually in the terminal, so that's not really an issue :) |
| 16:20.40 | tierra | heh |
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| 16:24.52 | tierra | anyway, I still need a 10.4 machine anyway to test builds with, cuz unlike Apple, we develop our software to work on older machines too :) |
| 16:34.25 | timinator | there goes mindjuju again |
| 16:34.48 | mindjuju | dude, either secretly or openly, everybody loves disco |
| 16:35.01 | timinator | lol |
| 16:35.02 | thebigdog | i hate it |
| 16:35.05 | mindjuju | :) |
| 16:35.06 | thebigdog | i hate it |
| 16:35.23 | thebigdog | unfortunately the wife loves it for me too |
| 16:39.05 | mindjuju | thebigdog - i know why you don't like disco - here, hope this helps - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJj6d5QSYaE |
| 16:39.46 | thebigdog | that is sick mindjuju |
| 16:40.02 | mindjuju | :) |
| 16:40.45 | thebigdog | ill be back...i need to rise the barf from my mouth |
| 16:41.09 | mindjuju | don't be ashamed! |
| 16:41.31 | bwelker | mindjuju: LOL |
| 16:41.38 | bwelker | that is awesome |
| 16:41.46 | bwelker | and i like a few select disco songs |
| 16:43.00 | mgeary | does Abba count as disco? 'Cause Abba rawks |
| 16:43.18 | mindjuju | mgeary - fo sho |
| 16:43.33 | mgeary | a good friend of mine and his wife had lead roles in Mamma Mia down in Vegas. They got us VIP tickets to a show. It was awesome |
| 16:44.05 | wps | I was MM when it was here in SL |
| 16:44.07 | wps | it was great |
| 16:44.37 | wps | I love ABBA |
| 16:44.41 | wps | and am a huge disco fan |
| 16:45.10 | mindjuju | disco rawks |
| 16:46.12 | thebigdog | disco is dead |
| 16:46.25 | thebigdog | and there is a reason for that |
| 16:46.40 | wps | we are no longer friends, thebigdog |
| 16:46.44 | thebigdog | haha |
| 16:46.49 | thebigdog | kk wps |
| 16:47.04 | wps | that was worse than insulting my mother |
| 16:47.09 | thebigdog | haha |
| 16:47.18 | thebigdog | wps you crack me up |
| 16:47.30 | wps | you make me sad |
| 16:47.46 | thebigdog | oh why so sad panda bear |
| 16:47.54 | wps | let us all pray for thebigdog |
| 16:48.44 | thebigdog | hehe |
| 16:49.01 | mindjuju | for thebigdog - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocLMFmGa1ZA |
| 16:50.22 | thebigdog | haha i think everyone would fall out of their chair |
| 16:50.38 | thebigdog | i would wear it though just for that reason |
| 16:50.44 | wps | oh my |
| 16:51.14 | mindjuju | :) |
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| 16:58.58 | SunSparc | macnewbold: Thanks for taking care of Alain. |
| 17:00.46 | thebigdog | macnewbold, ty too...it means a lot to SunSparc |
| 17:01.08 | SunSparc | lol |
| 17:01.27 | thebigdog | 35.4% of uphpu works with macnewbold |
| 17:01.36 | SunSparc | thebigdog: Weren't they hiring recently? |
| 17:01.47 | thebigdog | i believe so |
| 17:02.08 | thebigdog | mac said he hates me...and will never hire me |
| 17:02.11 | SunSparc | Perhaps we should rename the group from uphpu to cgphpu |
| 17:02.17 | thebigdog | hehe |
| 17:02.18 | SunSparc | hehe |
| 17:02.42 | thebigdog | only mindjuju shows the love...wps hates me now |
| 17:02.53 | SunSparc | Too many haters |
| 17:03.18 | mindjuju | that reminds me of more 80isms |
| 17:03.22 | mindjuju | player haters and trendy posers |
| 17:03.44 | thebigdog | yes it does |
| 17:04.06 | thebigdog | no disco here |
| 17:04.40 | thebigdog | all i know is that i'm going to heaven cause i eat at chipotles |
| 17:05.35 | bwelker | 35.4% of uphpu can't work at CG, there's only like 5 people here, but we all rawk ;) |
| 17:05.53 | bwelker | (or at least try to rawk, on occasion) |
| 17:06.01 | thebigdog | hehe |
| 17:06.42 | thebigdog | bwelker, dont you mean 64.6% of uphpu cant work at cg |
| 17:07.00 | bwelker | no, i mean the numbers don't add up |
| 17:07.21 | bwelker | there are like 20 people online right now, and only 5 in the office |
| 17:07.33 | bwelker | != 35% |
| 17:07.50 | bwelker | it's more like 27.2% |
| 17:08.16 | bwelker | but... as I've said before... 76.8% of all statistics are made up on the spot |
| 17:08.25 | bwelker | so I could be wrong |
| 17:09.12 | mgeary | ~bwelker bwelker |
| 17:09.12 | jbot | ACTION asks bwelker lots of questions, and completely distracts him from his train of thought |
| 17:09.22 | bwelker | NOOOO |
| 17:09.28 | bwelker | ~kk mgeary |
| 17:09.29 | jbot | ACTION whips out a bullhorn and blares out "KK! KK! 'OK' isn't good enough for me, it's gotta be 'KK'!" |
| 17:10.12 | thebigdog | hehe |
| 17:10.18 | thebigdog | which are the 5 |
| 17:10.36 | bwelker | me, and then the others, but we don't really talk ab out them |
| 17:10.39 | thebigdog | macnewbold, counts as 2 |
| 17:10.43 | bwelker | ok, fine |
| 17:10.46 | thebigdog | hehe |
| 17:11.07 | bwelker | doesn |
| 17:11.10 | thebigdog | ill just pretend i work there |
| 17:11.26 | bwelker | doesn't everybody else work at omniture or media rain or something |
| 17:11.26 | thebigdog | cuase im bored right now |
| 17:11.42 | thebigdog | only the ones that love disco |
| 17:11.49 | bwelker | lol |
| 17:12.09 | bwelker | is 6 people enough for a DDoS? |
| 17:13.04 | SunSparc | mgeary: Do tell |
| 17:13.10 | thebigdog | bwelker, sure |
| 17:13.16 | SunSparc | Disco rocks! |
| 17:13.20 | SunSparc | ;) |
| 17:13.28 | mgeary | nothing ticks me off more than an otherwise legit company that even has an "unsubscribe me" feature, and then they completely disregard your unsub attemmpts |
| 17:13.43 | mgeary | if they were pitching V1@grA, that'd be one thing |
| 17:13.49 | mgeary | but this is a legit company |
| 17:14.12 | mgeary | so i'm reporting them to their ISP abuse@, and listing them on every RBL i can find |
| 17:14.25 | mgeary | if fungus were here, i'd ask him what else i can do to mess them up |
| 17:14.28 | SunSparc | Ouch! |
| 17:14.32 | thebigdog | i hate employees that complain all the time |
| 17:15.01 | thebigdog | mgeary, bbb complaint |
| 17:15.06 | mgeary | i've had emails go to ISPs reporting abuse. they take that very seriously, and will block smtp services if warranted |
| 17:15.30 | thebigdog | i need some lunch |
| 17:15.32 | SunSparc | I take it serious when people report any of the sites I host. |
| 17:15.42 | SunSparc | Ticks me off too, as a provider |
| 17:17.04 | bwelker | it's only one shot at a time, but i'll do what i can |
| 17:17.08 | bwelker | ;) |
| 17:17.17 | SunSparc | :) |
| 17:17.58 | SunSparc | Seriously, if this was the old west, spammers would be wetting their pants right about now. |
| 17:18.13 | bwelker | I saw a guy at the range with a 30-06 barrel for a CT, it was a frickin cannon |
| 17:18.42 | SunSparc | I bet it was fun to watch him fire it |
| 17:18.45 | bwelker | dropping rifle shells in a handgun just scares me |
| 17:18.53 | bwelker | it knocked him back pretty far |
| 17:19.13 | bwelker | he offered, i declined, i was chicken |
| 17:19.33 | SunSparc | lol |
| 17:19.41 | bwelker | saw a couple deagles there as well, those are not small guns |
| 17:20.18 | SunSparc | Reminds me of the Glock-18. Full auto hand gun |
| 17:20.40 | bwelker | i know a guy who has an airsoft version of that gun |
| 17:20.42 | bwelker | it's fun |
| 17:20.48 | SunSparc | sweet |
| 17:21.12 | SunSparc | I cannot think of a good reason to own a fully automatic handgun. But it is fun to watch videos of it. |
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| 17:24.41 | mgeary | ~lart the FTC complaint assistant for being a useless piece of crap |
| 17:24.41 | jbot | pulls out his louisville slugger and uses the FTC complaint assistant's head to break the homerun record for being a useless piece of crap |
| 17:25.15 | mindjuju | mgeary, what did the ftc do? |
| 17:25.30 | mindjuju | didn't they just slap comcast on the wrist for throttling ? |
| 17:25.31 | mgeary | their business reporting tool doesn't work |
| 17:25.33 | bwelker | SunSparc: if i had one, it would be for entertainment only |
| 17:25.38 | mindjuju | oh |
| 17:25.50 | bwelker | it would be fun though |
| 17:26.42 | SunSparc | bwelker: yes, it would :) |
| 17:26.50 | SunSparc | ~lart spammers |
| 17:26.50 | jbot | whips spammers with a wet and grimy noodle just because |
| 17:26.58 | SunSparc | Not good enough jbot |
| 17:27.01 | SunSparc | ~lart spammers |
| 17:27.01 | jbot | slaps a compatible dib on spammers's head |
| 17:27.12 | SunSparc | Still not good enough |
| 17:27.15 | SunSparc | ~lart spammers |
| 17:27.15 | jbot | raises middle finger to spammers |
| 17:27.19 | SunSparc | lol |
| 17:31.44 | mgeary | ohh. here's one for thebigdog |
| 17:32.02 | mgeary | ~airsupply thebigdog |
| 17:32.03 | jbot | ACTION takes thebigdog by the hand, hunkers down on one knee, gazes fondly into thebigdog's eyes, and croons, "'cause you're every woman in the world to meeeee...." |
| 17:32.05 | thebigdog | that is not very good |
| 17:32.09 | thebigdog | it only has 3 stars |
| 17:32.15 | mgeary | indeed |
| 17:32.30 | mgeary | kept more for archival purposes than sheer music goodness |
| 17:32.54 | mgeary | alright |
| 17:33.14 | mgeary | now let's see what i hear back on this little escalation i've undertaken |
| 17:33.38 | mgeary | if there's any justice, i'll get a very sincere, very apologetic email from the company |
| 17:38.25 | bwelker | how are you putting the song info on there? |
| 17:38.37 | thebigdog | anyone know if ups has a web service to provide shipping arrival dates? |
| 17:38.46 | bwelker | is it a pidgin plugin, or a winamp plugin? or what? |
| 17:38.48 | wps | I think they do, but don't know for sure, thebigdog |
| 17:38.59 | mgeary | bwelker: Colloquy on OS X |
| 17:39.04 | thebigdog | bwelker, i have a plugin for xchat |
| 17:39.23 | thebigdog | there is xchat for windows |
| 17:39.27 | thebigdog | it costs $$$ though |
| 17:39.29 | bwelker | meh, i like pidgin |
| 17:39.41 | bwelker | oh well, it's all good |
| 17:39.48 | bwelker | i'll just continue to type mine in |
| 17:39.51 | thebigdog | im not sure if there is a pidgin plugin |
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| 17:46.15 | wps | anyone want to buy a Mazda Speed 3â¦Â blackâ¦Â custom wheels ? |
| 17:46.24 | wps | excellent conditionâ¦Â very fast |
| 17:47.09 | wps | (for those that aren't aware, the "speed 3" is a souped up version of the Mazda 3, from the factory) |
| 17:47.59 | mgeary | and give up my '97 Mazda Protogé? are you kidding? |
| 17:48.30 | wps | I'm not sellingâ¦Â but the seller is offering a finders fee :) |
| 17:48.40 | mgeary | hah |
| 17:52.51 | wps | I have an MySQL table that I need to truncate and then repopulate with the contents of a spreadsheet |
| 17:53.25 | wps | any other suggestions than exporting as a CSV, reading in with PHP, looping, and inserting into the DB? |
| 17:53.52 | bwelker | get phpmyadmin |
| 17:54.00 | bwelker | truncate, then insert the csv |
| 17:54.15 | wps | I do have phpMyAdmin (although I rarely use it) |
| 17:54.24 | wps | is there a feature that can read a CSV and insert? |
| 17:54.29 | bwelker | yeah |
| 17:58.10 | thebigdog | wps what are you using for your spreadsheet app |
| 17:58.24 | wps | excel |
| 17:58.59 | thebigdog | you should be able to create a db connection for excel and import through that and not php |
| 18:00.27 | wps | I knew that Excel can ready from a DBâ¦Â it can write to one too? |
| 18:00.30 | wps | that's whacked |
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| 18:46.48 | thebigdog | yes you can read and write |
| 18:46.57 | thebigdog | if you have the connection setup for it |
| 18:47.10 | thebigdog | odbc connection iirc |
| 18:54.51 | mindjuju | AIEEE!!! |
| 18:54.56 | mindjuju | abandon ship! |
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| 19:44.41 | _psychic_ | What sort of services would you guys like to see on a municipal website? |
| 19:46.38 | Utah_Dave | _psychic_: I'd like to see a month by month history of my utilities usage. electricity, natural gas, etc |
| 19:47.29 | SunSparc | I would like to see when and where town meetings are |
| 19:47.53 | _psychic_ | "town meetings" ? |
| 19:48.26 | SunSparc | Yep |
| 19:48.32 | _psychic_ | like what |
| 19:48.50 | _psychic_ | city council meetings are almost always the same place |
| 19:48.51 | SunSparc | Town hall meetings? With all my town reps |
| 19:49.07 | SunSparc | That makes it easier. |
| 19:49.41 | SunSparc | Although if I just moved into town or just barely decided to get into my local city happenings I would have no idea where that is. |
| 19:50.30 | _psychic_ | I'm mostly asking about functionality rather than information |
| 19:51.19 | SunSparc | A magic 8 ball to ask question about whether or not the city is going to finish (this, that, or the other) project on time and on budget |
| 19:51.44 | _psychic_ | Noted. |
| 19:51.46 | SunSparc | Calendar of events |
| 19:52.06 | SunSparc | Utility for me to be able to quickly find my council reps |
| 19:52.19 | SunSparc | And their contact info, their stand on things, etc |
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| 19:55.14 | Utah_Dave | _psychic_: I'd also like to see the detailed city budget |
| 19:55.31 | _psychic_ | k |
| 19:55.43 | SunSparc | A municipal city really is an information site. |
| 19:55.52 | SunSparc | s/city/site |
| 19:57.15 | _psychic_ | I disagree |
| 19:57.19 | _psychic_ | I want to pay bills |
| 19:57.22 | _psychic_ | file reports |
| 19:57.25 | _psychic_ | check out books |
| 19:57.30 | _psychic_ | talk with neighbors |
| 19:57.32 | _psychic_ | get alerts |
| 19:57.32 | _psychic_ | etc. |
| 19:57.40 | _psychic_ | There's *so* much that could be done that isn't. |
| 19:57.43 | SunSparc | Ok, you win |
| 19:57.45 | SunSparc | :) |
| 19:57.51 | _psychic_ | Info is a big part, no doubt. |
| 19:57.58 | beandog | I dont wanna pay bills |
| 19:57.58 | _psychic_ | But I'm looking for feature ideas, mostly. |
| 19:58.20 | orsonj | heh |
| 19:58.29 | _psychic_ | yes, yes you do. |
| 19:58.35 | _psychic_ | you pay them, don't you? ;) |
| 19:58.56 | beandog | uh |
| 19:59.11 | beandog | sure |
| 20:00.11 | orsonj | well, I want my power cutoff less than I want to pay power bills |
| 20:00.29 | _psychic_ | exactly. |
| 20:00.53 | beandog | I wanna go see Batman. |
| 20:00.58 | beandog | whos with me? |
| 20:01.22 | orsonj | let's see, I've got a couple hours |
| 20:01.24 | beandog | friday afternoon matinee |
| 20:01.30 | mindjuju | beandog, there is actually an event schedule |
| 20:01.37 | mindjuju | not a uphpu or utos |
| 20:01.39 | mindjuju | hang on quick sec |
| 20:01.50 | orsonj | too bad I'm a bit removed in the physical sense |
| 20:01.50 | SunSparc | If you are just barely thinking of getting tickets though, you are probably too late. |
| 20:02.03 | beandog | SunSparc, the really late shows usually arent sold out |
| 20:02.11 | beandog | the midnight ones |
| 20:02.21 | mindjuju | beandog - http://www.bungeeconnect.com/movie/batman/ |
| 20:02.52 | beandog | oh sweet |
| 20:02.55 | beandog | Beetlejuice at midnight tonight |
| 20:03.41 | beandog | mindjuju, Tuesday? |
| 20:03.46 | beandog | I dont have thatt much self control |
| 20:03.58 | mindjuju | :) |
| 20:04.57 | beandog | this fandango thing is expensive |
| 20:05.01 | beandog | I'll just say I'm a child and save $3 |
| 20:05.06 | orsonj | maybe we could go to the same showing in different cities and talk to each other on the phone the whole time |
| 20:05.32 | beandog | heh |
| 20:10.27 | beandog | anyone going to see it this weekend |
| 20:27.54 | _psychic_ | SunSparc, olds: Check out this iphone case. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000TYUOSU/ref=s9subs_c2_img1-rfc_p?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER |
| 20:28.50 | SunSparc | Uh, hehe, wrong picture :) |
| 20:28.52 | SunSparc | Doh |
| 20:28.56 | wps | bwelker: using the phpMyAdmin CSV import⦠should my file have column headers? |
| 20:29.38 | SunSparc | _psychic_: looks like a print cartrige |
| 20:32.19 | bwelker | not sure |
| 20:32.25 | bwelker | i think you can have it either way |
| 20:38.47 | wps | man, what a waste |
| 20:38.49 | wps | CLI is king |
| 20:39.11 | wps | I have wasted the past hour trying to get a CSV imported through phpMyAdmin |
| 20:39.19 | wps | I could have had it done in ten minutes with a quick PHP Script |
| 20:40.10 | beandog | yah |
| 20:40.10 | *** part/#uphpu bwelker (n=Benjam@166.70.178.114) |
| 20:40.15 | beandog | CSV import in PMA is a bit tricky |
| 20:42.03 | *** topic/#UPHPU by wps -> Utah PHP Users Group | uphpu.org |
| 20:43.00 | *** topic/#UPHPU by wps -> Utah PHP Users Group | uphpu.org | Channel log @ http://ibot.rikers.org/%23uphpu/ |
| 20:43.24 | *** topic/#UPHPU by wps -> Utah PHP Users Group | uphpu.org | Channel log @ http://ibot.rikers.org/%23uphpu/ |
| 20:43.57 | beandog | we have logs? |
| 20:44.04 | beandog | you mean my constant inanity goes on record? |
| 20:44.05 | wps | we do |
| 20:44.09 | wps | it does |
| 20:44.12 | DexterTheDragon | wps: LOAD DATA INFILE foo.csv INTO TABLE foobar FIELDS TERMINATED BY ',' ENCLOSED BY "'" |
| 20:44.16 | DexterTheDragon | something like that |
| 20:44.31 | wps | it's jbot's fault |
| 20:44.36 | wps | he writes it all down in his diary |
| 20:45.07 | wps | thanks, Dex |
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| 20:53.09 | mindjuju | DexterTheDragon ^5 |
| 21:00.44 | thebigdog | when we doing chipotles in bountiful |
| 21:04.11 | herlo | thebigdog: Tuesday! |
| 21:04.26 | thebigdog | that is cool wth me |
| 21:04.27 | herlo | or Wednesday |
| 21:04.39 | thebigdog | mindjuju, #2 make it happen |
| 21:04.48 | SunSparc | When are we doing Taco Bell in Orem? |
| 21:04.57 | herlo | SunSparc: NEVER!! |
| 21:05.04 | herlo | Taco Hell is gross! |
| 21:05.04 | thebigdog | i know i know |
| 21:05.05 | SunSparc | lol |
| 21:09.13 | thebigdog | how did you the meeting go? |
| 21:09.26 | thebigdog | did it get recorded? |
| 21:12.59 | herlo | thebigdog: I wasn't there, but I'm sure mindjuju recorded it |
| 21:37.49 | undertakingyou | quick question to throw out there for anyone. |
| 21:38.38 | undertakingyou | Working on a website and I just added the google maps stuff through their api. |
| 21:39.04 | undertakingyou | but thet map covers up my javascript menu. |
| 21:39.39 | undertakingyou | (see http://www.larkinmortuary.com/maptest.php) |
| 21:39.51 | undertakingyou | Any way to stop that from happening? |
| 21:49.34 | orsonj | http://www.robertbolton.com/google-maps-and-cssjavascript-drop-down-menus |
| 21:49.45 | Utah_Dave | undertakingyou: have you tried changing the z-index of the div the map is in? |
| 21:50.20 | orsonj | the article (and some comments) suggest that z-index needs to be done on all elements, not just the containing div |
| 21:50.30 | Utah_Dave | doh! orsonj beat me |
| 21:50.36 | orsonj | heh |
| 21:58.31 | timinator | shhh |
| 22:03.16 | orsonj | http://www.geekculture.com/joyoftech/joyarchives/1117.html |
| 22:05.13 | unum | their portions are too small for me |
| 22:05.25 | unum | I have to order six items to feel sastified |
| 22:05.32 | unum | of course I'm biased |
| 22:05.43 | orsonj | ~rlart |
| 22:05.44 | jbot | blames eco for all the evil in the world |
| 22:19.22 | orsonj | http://www.zahuraink.com/the_wet_martini/assets/appetizers_chipolte_chicken_mini_tacos.jpg |
| 22:23.02 | mindjuju | ~apb fungus |
| 22:23.02 | jbot | ACTION summons Leland to stake out fungus |
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| 22:24.28 | mindjuju | hey, what was the name of that ticketing system you were recommending that one day after the geek lunch when we were walking around the gateway? |
| 22:24.30 | mindjuju | remember? |
| 22:25.31 | fungus | Request Tracker by BestPractical |
| 22:25.43 | mindjuju | ah yes |
| 22:25.44 | mindjuju | thx! |
| 22:25.50 | fungus | http://bestpractical.com/rt |
| 22:28.08 | fungus | their latest version has a much better looking interface too. |
| 22:29.49 | dataw0lf | Ugh, I hate RT |
| 22:29.58 | fungus | What's better? |
| 22:30.29 | dataw0lf | pretty much everything |
| 22:30.31 | dataw0lf | sticky notes |
| 22:30.33 | dataw0lf | email |
| 22:30.38 | fungus | lol |
| 22:30.42 | dataw0lf | carving tickets into stone |
| 22:30.56 | fungus | eh, RT isn't *that* bad. |
| 22:31.11 | fungus | It's the best ticketing system I have ever used. |
| 22:31.15 | dataw0lf | wow |
| 22:31.34 | fungus | I've used a whole lot of crap up until now though. |
| 22:32.43 | fungus | If you think RT is bad, you should see Perfect Tracker. |
| 22:32.50 | dataw0lf | we're using roundup and basecamp. decent combo |
| 22:33.07 | fungus | Runs on Windows/ASP/MSSQL |
| 22:33.53 | fungus | That sounds cool, but that wouldn't work for us. |
| 22:34.39 | dataw0lf | how would roundup not work for you? |
| 22:35.55 | fungus | I haven't looked at roundup yet. Maybe I misunderstood what it does. |
| 22:36.36 | dataw0lf | I've incorporated roundup into automatic error reporting in several Django applications here (since roundup is Python, it's incredibly simple to write a middleware for Django that automates error reporting) |
| 22:37.00 | thebigdog | i use stinkfly |
| 22:37.10 | dataw0lf | and roundup is generic enough where you can use it for pretty much anything involving tracking |
| 22:38.05 | fungus | I'll look at it, but unfortunately the manager of tech support is a windows guy and feels that if it doesn't cost a ton, it sucks. |
| 22:38.17 | dataw0lf | ugh. |
| 22:38.25 | fungus | yeah, just what I thought. |
| 22:39.04 | fungus | That is why i suggested RT. They provide support to fulfill the need to spend money. and it looks all "enterprisey" |
| 22:39.30 | thebigdog | roundup integrates with svn too |
| 22:39.35 | dataw0lf | you mean it's needlessly complex and looks like crap? Is that the definition of enterprisey? |
| 22:39.55 | dataw0lf | git > svn |
| 22:40.43 | fungus | Yup, enterprisey. |
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| 23:35.32 | olds | we use basecamp + fogbugz |
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