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00:08.27carmonywhats goin on
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00:15.45Jacob_Kerrhey what's the best way to take all the values in an array and put them into one string with a sperator like ::
00:16.02Jacob_Kerris there some cool fuction or just use foreach>
00:24.00macnewboldJacob_Kerr: did you get your answer yet?
00:24.08macnewboldtry implode("::",$list)
00:24.27Utah_Davehey
00:24.33Jacob_KerrNice!
00:24.35Jacob_Kerrthanx man,,
00:24.37Jacob_Kerr..
00:25.56Jacob_Kerrand if there's only one index will that add nothing?
00:25.59Jacob_Kerrthat's what I want. :)
00:26.06Jacob_KerrWell testing it now.
00:27.54Jacob_Kerrworks well man thanx again ;)
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00:45.30oldsanyone happen to have a php function written that counts the number of weekend days in a month?
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00:51.22oldsmmm chipotle time
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02:39.13Jacob_KerrDoes anyone know why I can print a var out right before a return with the right value but it returns empty: http://pastebin.com/d34f797a5
02:39.44Jacob_Kerrthe print is on line 39 and the return is right after.
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15:34.39thebigdogty mindjuju
15:34.48thebigdogas long as it is good smack
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15:47.15macnewbold~rlart
15:47.15jbotexplains, ever so gently, that if _psychic_ doesn't give the channel more information, they can't help
15:47.55_psychic_~lart macnewbold
15:47.55jbotdrops a truckload of VAXen on macnewbold
15:48.17wpswhat is VAXen?
15:48.26_psychic_ooold computers
15:48.31bwelkershort for VAXen8
15:48.35_psychic_kinda like boxen
15:49.21bwelkerhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VAX
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15:49.35wpsah
15:49.57bwelkerthe kind that fill up whole floors of a building
15:50.28wpsI have a servant that googles for me
15:50.30bwelkergoogle is becoming obsolete, if you can't find it on wiki, it must not be important
15:50.30wpshis name is bwelker
15:50.35bwelkerlol
15:50.46bwelkeranything more for you, master?
15:51.04wpsyes… I'd like a strawberry shake from JCW's
15:51.12wpsand please have it here quickly… before it starts to melt
15:51.37bwelkerbefore I go, here's that link you were asking about: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2_Girls_1_Cup
15:51.44mindjujuoh no!
15:52.18bwelkerthe wiki page is safe, but i wouldn't follow any of the outside links
15:52.20mindjujuthat's ((gross + sick + nasty)^5)^1000000000000000000000000000
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15:52.33bwelkeri've actually never seen it, don't think i want to
15:52.37wpsplease don't paste stuff like that in here, bwelker
15:53.09bwelkerit really is safe to follow, no images
15:53.12bwelkerno video
15:53.18wpsit wasn't safe to read
15:53.42bwelkerok, my bad
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15:56.18_psychic_obama supports FISA == epic fail
15:58.16beandog?
15:58.32beandogI think its time for some lastfm
16:02.41beandogwhy doesnt this stupid thing have a pause button.
16:03.32mindjujuwhat thing?
16:03.39beandogmy lastfm player
16:04.33mindjujuoh, got me there, don't use last.fm
16:04.59beandogmindjuju, I guess youre just not as cool as me
16:05.08beandogdont feel bad.
16:05.13mindjujupsh
16:05.18beandog:)
16:05.19mindjujulast.fm stinks
16:05.22beandog~love mindjuju
16:05.23jbotIf you love mindjuju so much, why don't you marry it? (oooooh)
16:05.53beandogmindjuju, I just enjoy sucking down all our bandwidth at work
16:06.24beandogso we'll upgrade our network connection
16:06.25mindjujui have to hide mine, they want me to stop streaming
16:07.05mindjujumy argument is that if you're listening to techno, it has to be fresh
16:07.15mindjujucan't be stale old smelly techno
16:07.26beandogfresh
16:07.31mindjujufresh
16:07.49beandoglike granola bars in the morning sun.
16:08.07mindjujujust so
16:08.15mindjujuwho here is good at crypto ?
16:08.43bwelkeri don't know, some of that smelly old techno is pretty dang good, has some nice fruity notes to it
16:08.44fungusJust theory, and using other peoples tools.
16:09.26mindjujufungus - a friend is having me look over his page for stuff, and I've found something, but can't quite solve it on my own
16:09.33mindjujubut a crypto prolly could
16:09.58mindjujuhere are some strings and hashes, i'm looking for hash method
16:11.46mindjuju09:35 | 100C9314E1        09:31 | 1D029816E2             09:41 | 110B9312E1    10:00 | 140E9713E8
16:12.34fungusAre we sure these are hashes?
16:12.39mindjujui think his hash algorithm is homebrewed
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16:12.53fungusThey don't look like any standard hashing
16:12.54mindjujuwell, sorry, i'm prolly using the wrong word, cause hash is 1 way
16:13.07mindjujuencryption method
16:14.06mindjujuprolly not an easy way to figure it out if it is homebrewed?
16:14.39fungusSince they are short it might not be hard for true crypto math geeks.
16:16.29mindjujuthe only real pattern i see is that all of them start with a num, the second from end position is an E
16:16.39mindjujui wonder if dataw0lf or tierra might have an idea?
16:16.56thebigdogmindjuju, what are you trying to do?
16:17.21mindjujudetect the encryption algorithm
16:17.37tierrathey look like CRC
16:18.26mindjujuthe only CRC i know is cyclic redundnancy check for file sum
16:18.31mindjujuis there another, or is that what you mean?
16:18.56tierrayeah, that's what I meant
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16:19.30mindjujuthought it was limited to showing file integrity
16:20.01tierrathey aren't though... CRC is 8 characters, yours are 10
16:25.47wpsDon't Stop Me Now by Queen is one of the greatest songs of all time
16:26.35thebigdogmindjuju, it probably is a hash but modified
16:27.00thebigdogbut it is so hard to know without the code
16:30.09mindjujuthebigdog, no biggie, i'm prolly going to spend 2 or 3 more minutes on it and then pass it on.
16:30.34mindjujuthough slapping the data into excel has reveal VERY interesting things about the algorithm
16:31.30mindjujufirst spot is always a 1, the 3rd spot aleays a 0, fifth is always 9, seventh is always 1, ninth is always E
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16:32.42thebigdogone thing to not is that during php installation time some salts are generated that will be used for various encryption algs
16:32.47thebigdognote
16:33.26thebigdogif he did a homebrewed one he might be using crypt
16:33.48thebigdogbut who knows with some people
16:34.09thebigdogi have seen some craptastic ones out there
16:34.32mindjujuyeah, this is starting to break down pretty fast
16:34.42mindjujui'm thinking of sticking with it another 5 minutex
16:34.55mindjujudon't have much time to waste today, but this is starting to be fun
16:40.46PoeticIntensitywhat ya doin', mindjuju ?
16:42.03mindjuju@ PoeticIntensity - a friend of mine wrote an app, wants me to go through it to see if i can poke holes in the security
16:42.35mindjujui was trying to find the algorithm for the following
16:42.44mindjuju09:35 | 100C9314E1        09:31 | 1D029816E2             09:41 | 110B9312E1    10:00 | 140E9713E8
16:43.23PoeticIntensityeeenteresting.
16:46.36bwelkertry removing the similar characters and look at them that way, might bring things forward you can't see
16:47.29mindjujuyup, just starting to do that, considering looking at it as if it were in hexdecimal notation
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17:30.15macnewboldso mindjuju, the lunch tomorrow is the one where the manager promised half price, right?
17:33.18thebigdogoh yeah..if that is the case then i might need to hit up some geek lunch
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18:11.47mindjujuugh, meetings stink
18:11.47mindjuju~meetings--
18:11.47mindjuju~karma meetings
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18:12.21mgearyhey hey
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18:12.35bwelkeroh poo
18:12.36mgearytry something simpler
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18:13.01bwelkerw00t
18:13.30mindjuju~bwelker++
18:13.51bwelker~mindjuju++
18:14.02mindjuju~karma mindjuju
18:14.02jbotmindjuju has karma of 6
18:14.02bwelkerlets just sit here and stroke each others egos
18:14.10mindjujuyeah!  6
18:14.16mindjuju~karma thebigdog
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18:14.28Utah_Dave~mindjuju++
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18:14.35mindjujuw00t!
18:14.40mindjujuthx utah_dave!
18:14.47mindjujuhey, you coming to geek lunch tomorrow?
18:15.57Utah_DaveI really would like to be there. What time is it again?
18:16.07mindjuju1:30
18:16.15bwelker1:30?   strange
18:16.23mindjujuutah_dave - http://upcoming.yahoo.com/event/843968/
18:16.40mindjujubwelker - you should come dude!
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18:18.10Utah_DaveI'm hoping to be there.
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18:19.58shawcrosshi, anyone could help me a bit with a .htaccess rules ?
18:20.01shawcross12http://paste.mycodenow.com/view/a59610db
18:23.26thebigdogthebigdog rocks
18:24.29orsonjdoes thebigdog rock htaccess rules?
18:24.45thebigdogwell yes
18:24.51thebigdog~thebigdog
18:24.51jbot[thebigdog] the postgreSQL guru, a GWAR groupie, or secretly loves AOL, or a lover of cursors, or now 33.  Frank Black
18:24.59thebigdogor perhaps not
18:25.00thebigdoghehe
18:25.06thebigdogwhatz up orsonj
18:25.12mindjujuexpert < thebigdog
18:25.28orsonjjust noticed shawcross's question, but don't know enough myself
18:25.32mindjujuinfact
18:25.48mindjujuexpert < thebigdog > gur00b
18:26.37thebigdogoh yeah
18:27.27thebigdogshawcross, what are you trying to do with your rewrite?
18:28.08mindjujuhopefully they'll have the Lord of the Dance there
18:28.17mindjujuso far they just have this girl i guess - http://paysonscottishfestival.org/dancers/index.html
18:28.22thebigdogmindjuju, that sounds awesome
18:28.37shawcrossi have codeigniter in my 12www.mysite.com/codeigniter/ but all the files get the rewrite rule, i cant acces to 12www.mysite.com/codeigniter/imagenes/loading.gi
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18:29.50thebigdogis that your site? mysite.com?
18:30.21shawcross12http://www.grupoelektra.es
18:30.25thebigdogshawcross, do you have access to the apache logs?
18:30.28shawcrossthis is taht
18:30.34shawcrossno i cant
18:31.06thebigdogit will be hard to trouble shot with some debug from mod_rewrite
18:31.24thebigdogbasically it is not hitting your condition
18:31.54thebigdogbut it is also hard to tell because your apache setup might be different then what i am use to too
18:32.49shawcrossis there any sentence to reset all rules of the apache had?
18:33.08thebigdognot really
18:33.23thebigdogwhat version of apache you using?
18:34.07shawcrossi cant do a phpinfo its a 2.x very general i know
18:35.22shawcrossi have a file that load sentences to apache conf, i dont use .htaccess file
18:37.29shawcrosscant i type RewriteCond $1 !^codeigniter(public|imagenes) with the folder first ?
18:40.01thebigdogtry adding the RewriteBase
18:40.39shawcrossi've do it but nothing rewritecond dont load
18:42.18thebigdogi would check your condition
18:42.41thebigdogi think the access to the first group is probably not what you want....it is hard to say with it being in the .htaccess
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18:43.58thebigdogshawcross, the backreference is probably not what you are wanting is it?
18:44.20mindjuju~APB macnewbold
18:44.20jbotACTION calls Tim to rough up macnewbold
18:44.24mindjujuPM sent
18:44.39mindjuju@ thebigdog, it is 50% off since they dogged us
18:44.42mindjujuyou coming?
18:44.58thebigdogwhat you mean mindjuju ?
18:45.13mindjujudidn't see your question from before
18:45.22mindjujuwhere macnewbold was asking about the price of the plate at tucanos
18:45.39mindjujuyou said you might go if it were, and it is
18:45.59mindjujuoriginally it was going to be for those who RSVP, but now, i've just confirmed it is for the table
18:46.50mindjujuif anybody else is interested please go to http://upcoming.yahoo.com/event/843968 to RSVP or PM or email me
18:47.13mindjujubut must have final count by tomorrow morning
18:48.36carmonyis this Utah group very active?
18:49.10mindjujuit's pretty active, meeting monthly, afterhours party monthly and geek lunch monthly
18:49.17mindjujuand the occassional geek event
18:49.53mindjujuwe network with other UGs both directly and through UTOS
18:50.43mindjujulast geek lunch we had 25, this one will be prolly 29, 30
18:50.54thebigdogi might have to come
18:51.01mindjujudude, you should
18:51.05thebigdogmaybe ill bring some goodies
18:51.10mindjujuwe had tons of people
18:51.12carmonyis most every from the SLC area?
18:51.42mindjujuactually, we try to split up events so that there is one in the north, south, east, west
18:52.00thebigdogwe have tons all over too
18:52.08thebigdoga few outsite of utah as well
18:52.12mindjujubut we're having 2 downtown events in a row because that's the way it worked out
18:52.22thebigdogi have 4 new books i can probably give away too for lunch
18:52.27thebigdoghow is the parking mindjuju ?
18:52.33mindjujutrue that, dataw0lf is in Reno, for example
18:52.43mindjujuthebigdog - Tucanos is at the Gateway
18:52.46thebigdogjsmith on the east coast
18:52.51thebigdogok
18:52.56mindjujui've only been there once, but it seems like it had decent parking
18:54.53carmonyany from Ogden?
18:55.07thebigdogtiminator and myself are up north
18:55.10thebigdogim in layton
18:55.20dataw0lfhm?
18:55.22dataw0lfoh.
18:55.24carmonynice, are most of the people hobbyists or do it for a living?
18:55.45Utah_Davecarmony: most do it for a living
18:56.10carmonyvery nice
18:56.36thebigdogim a hobbyist
18:56.45carmonyits nice having a mix
18:57.10dataw0lfWell, generally, good professional programmers are hobbyists, too.
18:57.16carmonynot sure how I stubled upon the uphpu website, but I've been doing PHP for years now.
18:58.20mindjujuglad to have ya carmony!
18:58.42mindjujunext php meet is PHP + Debug, presented by Kevin (DexterTheDragon)
18:58.46thebigdogwelcome
18:59.02DexterTheDragoncarmony: I'm in ogden
19:00.53carmonyvery nice
19:16.22macnewbolddon't listen to Dexter, he's not in ogden, he's in the room next door
19:16.48mindjujuheh
19:17.01mindjujuthat dexter, he's a wild one
19:27.08bwelkeryou should see him at foos...
19:34.04dataw0lfhttp://truedat.org/ opinions on new design?
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19:43.21mindjujudataw0lf - i love the color choice
19:43.42mindjujui small thing though, something about the Latest Entries box doesn't seem quite right
19:44.00mindjujui think it's because your mast has that gradient and it doesn't
19:45.43dataw0lfhmmm
19:45.46dataw0lfcould be right
19:46.11mindjujujust my opinion, you may want to ask wps who is far more skilled than I at design
19:47.30bwelkeri'm diggin the dots and the underline under the hotkeys
19:47.35bwelkernice
19:47.37bwelkersimple
19:48.26dataw0lfI'm not much of a designer, I do what I can
19:48.48mindjujuyeah, my skillz are in coding and COD4 headshots
19:49.00dataw0lfpfft
19:49.01bwelkermaybe take the upper dot off the hover state, so there is a difference between hover and active?
19:49.21bwelkeri headshot dataw0lf all day
19:49.25mindjujudataw0lf, i made it one step closer to COD4, i got on steam
19:49.26dataw0lfhaha
19:49.26bwelker"i can dance all day"
19:49.33bwelkerlol
19:49.36dataw0lfbwelker: you wish you could headshot me in CoD
19:49.36mindjujubut i'm stock on Team Fortress 2
19:49.41dataw0lfbooo
19:49.46dataw0lfyou should get a 360 and jump on Live
19:50.01mindjujuoh, you playing off the 360?
19:50.07bwelkerCoD:UO, you'd be owned all over the place
19:50.24bwelkeri'd headshot you with a nade
19:50.35dataw0lfmindjuju: Yea, I don't play computer games.
19:50.52dataw0lfbwelker: well that's fine, I play CoD 4 because I'm not living in the Dark Ages.
19:50.55timinatorso, if I'm running a MySQL query, and I want to ORDER BY `field`, but I want to pass in a sort array, is that possible?
19:51.03bwelkerjust because it'
19:51.08timinatoror should I sort in PHP?
19:51.12bwelkerit's old, doesn't mean it's bad
19:51.30dataw0lftiminator: pass in a sort array?  What do you mean?
19:51.40bwelkerlike cake?
19:51.45timinatorya.... a sort array
19:52.01bwelkerwell, normally you don't pass wort arrays to mysql
19:52.06bwelkers/wort/sort/
19:52.10dataw0lfthat must be some PHP stuff I don't recognize.
19:52.42timinatoras if I had values like 'a', 'b', 'c', and I wanted to have them come back with 'b' first, but then all the rest sorted normally
19:52.49bwelkeryou can pass your sort array through explode first, and then inject that into your query
19:53.39bwelkeryou can do something like ORDER BY field = 'b' ASC, id ASC
19:53.54bwelkerthat would put 'b' first and the rest in regular (id) order
19:54.05timinatorhmmm... that may be enough for this one
19:54.06timinatorthanks
19:54.10bwelkernp
19:54.26bwelker~cookie timinator
19:54.36bwelkerlol
19:54.47bwelkerthat's not what i meant
19:55.08bwelkersomebody's been messin with the cookie jar
20:00.38fungus~literal cmd: cookie (.*?)
20:01.22fungusahh, separate module
20:01.29mindjujuyeah
20:01.37mindjujudon't think it is customizable
20:01.57mindjujuat least from this side, that is
20:02.10bwelkerit's all good, it was pretty funny
20:02.15fungusNever saw it used with an argument before.
20:02.24bwelkercookie?
20:02.27bwelker~cookie
20:02.38bwelkerwow
20:02.54bwelkerlast time i used it, it pulled out a mac nut cookie
20:03.00bwelkernot the severe beating
20:04.10fungus~give bwelker a cookie
20:04.11jbotACTION gives bwelker a home-baked chocolate chip cookie to cheer him up.
20:04.41bwelkerhmm...  must have been using it wrong then
20:05.02fungus~cookie bwelker
20:05.12bwelkerBORK
20:05.42bwelkerlol
20:05.47fungus~cookie grep
20:06.21bwelkerw...
20:06.23bwelkert...
20:06.25bwelkerf...
20:07.01fungusahh, the argument is a search term to limit the factoids it grabs
20:07.15bwelkeri don't get it
20:07.20bwelker~cookie thing
20:07.29mgeary~x4 downgrade
20:07.29jboti guess x4 downgrade is if you want to downgrade from X4.0.1phase2 debs, remove the samosa repository from /etc/apt/soources.list and type (in one line) "dpkg --purge --force-depends `grep ^Package: /var/state/apt/lists/samosa.debian.org_%7ebranden_woody_i386_Packages | cut -d: -f2`; apt-get -f install"
20:07.51bwelker~cookie lart
20:08.18bwelker~cookie bwelker
20:08.34bwelkerstill don't get it, oh well
20:08.37dataw0lf~cookie dataw0lf
20:08.44dataw0lfhehe
20:08.50fungus~dink
20:08.50jbot[dink] see "dataw0lf"
20:09.11dataw0lfnice, bigdog
20:09.17dataw0lf~dataw0lf
20:09.17jbotyou are probably sleeping again, or da supahstah, or a dink, or #utah's number one troll, or known by his full title: dataw0lf,  Destroyer of Newbies, Troll of the Seas of IRC, God of All that is Technical, etc, etc, or a lamer as per "~nickometer dataw0lf", or  stderr, the proud owner of a Hello Kitty themed eMachine, or ehl oh ehl, or a guy who likes to bash stuff, or a guy who needs help moving
20:09.45bwelkerdamn
20:09.54bwelkeri wish i had a hello kitty emachine
20:10.00wpshey now
20:10.01dataw0lftoo bad for YOU!
20:10.10wpsthis is a G-rated channel
20:10.15bwelker"Oh look...   PWNIES"
20:10.21wpsno porn wiki links or profanity
20:10.31bwelkerjeez
20:10.54dataw0lfthere's a ... porn wiki?
20:11.10funguslol
20:11.12wps:)
20:11.15bwelkercareful with that one
20:11.24bwelkeryou might end up in pop-up land
20:11.26dataw0lfcareful? pfft.
20:11.31dataw0lfI have my own office.
20:11.39bwelkerand a hellokiitty emachine
20:11.41wpsbwelker burned my retna out with some link earlier
20:11.49bwelkerit was text
20:11.58bwelkertext never burned any retinas
20:12.06wpsyes, and I lost my innocence :)
20:12.12dataw0lfyou've never gotten into an internet argument with me before
20:12.20bwelkeri can't tell if your joking or not
20:12.31wpsabout keeping it clean… not joking
20:13.05bwelkerk, i'll try, but seriously, i though it was known enough that people would think it was funny, my bad
20:13.10dataw0lfno cursing, NSFW links (including offensive text), etc
20:13.17bwelkergotcha
20:13.32fungusEeek, no one is to ever mention the 2G1C video ever again.
20:14.06fungusI still have post traumatic stress disorder from seeing it.
20:14.08bwelkerok, i won't, but you should click this: http://tinyurl.com/2g9mqh
20:14.32wpsunfortunately my stupid employer blocks youtube
20:14.38wps~wedgie employer
20:14.38jbotACTION hangs employer from the flag pole by his underwear
20:14.57fungusSo does my employer.
20:15.09bwelkerlame
20:15.16fungusBut Since I control the firewall, i have special exceptions.  :)
20:15.36bwelkerwell then...   there's a link up there ^ just for you  =)
20:17.30mindjuju@fungus , that's too funny about 2g1c, i nearly plucked out my eyes to stop the hurt
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20:18.41bwelkeralthough i have seen the "minutes before 2g1c" on college humor
20:19.12mindjujuthe funny thing to see is the reations on youtube to 2g1c
20:19.25bwelkerthe one from joe rogan is pretty funny
20:20.20bwelkermindjuju: check out DI-hardcore, it's gettin good
20:20.34mindjujuk, switching over
20:20.57bwelkerit's fast though, hope you drank your bawls today
20:21.34wpstoo hot and you are nasty the rest of the day
20:22.08mindjujuyeah, way to hot out there
20:22.28mindjujui was coaching Tball yesterday at 5p and was miserable
20:22.55dataw0lfugh at least your city isn't covered in smoke
20:22.58dataw0lf+ heat
20:23.08mindjujubwelker - i like the cadence, but the flow isn't smooth
20:24.47bwelkeryeah, it switched over right after i told you to listen, sorry
20:24.56bwelkerit was good a bit ago
20:25.10bwelkerhad a nice drum and bass feel to it, now it's just spastic
20:27.46SunSparcIn his desktop version of the app
20:30.13mindjujusunsparc - pandora does serve fresh techno, but it scares me too much
20:30.45SunSparcmindjuju: Put away your fear.  Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering.
20:30.49SunSparc~fear
20:30.50jbotFear is the mind-killer.  Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.  I will face my fear.  I will permit it to pass over me and through me.  And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.  Where the fear has gone there will be nothing.  Only I will remain.
20:31.08mindjujuawesome!
20:31.10SunSparcjbot fear is also Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering.
20:31.10jbotokay, SunSparc
20:31.12mindjujua dune quote!
20:31.55mindjujunew dune, old dune or book dune?
20:31.57bwelkerbut can you make the word "suffereing" be all whispery and spooky
20:32.15SunSparcmindjuju: All Dune.
20:32.21bwelkerthe newer 6hr one was pretty cool
20:32.27mindjujulove old dune, haven't seen new dune
20:32.37mindjujuafraid to
20:32.40bwelkerstill pretty strange though
20:32.44SunSparcbwelker: Yeah, they are much different, but I like them also.
20:32.55SunSparcOH NO!!!
20:33.31mindjujuscary
20:33.31bwelkeryour kids infiltrate your winamp again?
20:33.40SunSparcIndeed
20:33.53bwelkeram looking forward to that day
20:33.59SunSparchehe
20:34.14SunSparcKids are fun.  My fourth should be here any day now.
20:34.31SunSparcHey, there I go.  Good riddance to me.
20:35.48SunSparcAh, she is a cutie.
20:36.04bwelkeryeah she is
20:37.31bwelkercan't even imagine four though
20:37.44bwelkerone is crazy enough
20:38.25SunSparcHere are two of mine:  http://bp2.blogger.com/_ApgUF_bnvq4/SDSc_Fh0IZI/AAAAAAAAADk/C0TRFv2ChzI/s1600-h/DSC03445.JPG
20:39.39thebigdogbwelker, gratz and the little one
20:40.05SunSparcorsonj: Due date?
20:40.08orsonj25
20:40.14SunSparc15th
20:40.21SunSparcInduction date on 22
20:40.28bwelkerSunSparc: geez, they're people
20:40.44SunSparcbwelker: Hehe, yeah, they grow quick
20:40.47bwelkermine's still a little ball of cute
20:40.47SunSparcthebigdog: How many?
20:41.12SunSparcbwelker: I really enjoy infants.  They don't cause too much trouble.
20:41.22thebigdogSunSparc, i have 4
20:41.24bwelkerummm... apparently you didn't have mine
20:41.26thebigdog3g and 1b
20:41.35SunSparcbwelker: hehe
20:41.43bwelkershe's finally weening out of her SCREAMING phase
20:41.52SunSparcthebigdog: Wow, too much estrogen.  I have the opposite.  :)
20:42.43SunSparcbwelker: Screaming is a hard stage to love, that is true.  They go through that one several times before you can legally kick them out though.
20:43.41thebigdogSunSparc, no doubt
20:44.01Utah_DaveI always thought I liked infants. Until we had our first last month
20:44.16thebigdogthey are great if they are not yours
20:44.17bwelkeryeah, that first month is a tough one
20:44.19thebigdogis mho
20:44.42bwelkeri don't know, if ours hadn't been 'ours', i think we would have left her on the doorstep
20:44.44thebigdogin think in the next 5 years i will have a grandkid
20:44.49SunSparcI guess I am weird, or my kids have just been good.  The first 3 months are my favorite.
20:45.19SunSparcthebigdog: Hopeful?
20:45.23wpsthebigdog is an old fart
20:45.25bwelkeroh don't get me wrong, i already miss her wrinkly back and her teeniness...    it's the screaming i can do without
20:45.26thebigdognot really
20:45.38thebigdogbut it is a likely possibility
20:45.47thebigdogmy oldest will be 18 in jan
20:45.53SunSparcjbot: give bwelker some ear plugs
20:45.54jbotACTION gives some ear plugs to bwelker
20:46.07thebigdogyes i am an old fart
20:46.07wpshe's looking for a suitable alpha for his offspring to mate with
20:46.28thebigdogdude any guy that will take her and not bring her back is gold in my eyes
20:46.35wpsha ha ha
20:46.39SunSparclol
20:47.00thebigdogi will even pay for most stuff if i can get her out of the house
20:47.07thebigdogteenage girls are horrible
20:47.27SunSparcPerhaps that is why the invented the dowery.
20:47.35thebigdogi think that is the case
20:47.49thebigdogi will tell the guy anything to get her out of the house
20:47.59thebigdogshe cooks and cleans and does everything...trust me ;)
20:48.04thebigdoghehe
20:48.05bwelkerlol
20:48.06wpsoh my
20:48.19thebigdogcourse like any teenager that is a ie
20:48.21thebigdoglie
20:48.27wpsdoes your wife know how you feel about this?
20:48.43thebigdogyes i have told her on numerous occasions
20:49.07thebigdogthat when she moves out...she can only visit for a predefined length of time
20:49.16thebigdogthat cannot be extended
20:49.20thebigdogonly shortened
20:49.32thebigdogmindjuju, you around?
20:50.04thebigdogmy daughter told me when she is 18 she is moving out...i asked if that is a promise
20:50.12thebigdogmy wife laughed at me and her
20:50.13wpsha ha ha
20:50.24SunSparcthebigdog: Get it in writing, quick
20:50.31thebigdogyeah i need too
20:50.42wpsI don't want my daughter to move out until she is 21 and she isn't dating until she is 18
20:50.45thebigdogshe i not bad...just moody
20:50.51wpsI am a man… I know what men are like
20:51.02thebigdogwps, having girls sucks
20:51.10wpsyes, but I am scared at what boys will do to her
20:51.12thebigdogfrom 2 - 21 it is hell
20:51.44thebigdogall females are difficult
20:52.03thebigdogi told my wife she was high maintenance and she got all pissed off at me
20:52.21thebigdogthe conversation started out about cheating on a spouse
20:52.42thebigdogi told her i would never cheat...why would i want the additional headache of another high maintenance woman
20:53.06thebigdogthat was not the answer she was wanting to hear
20:53.40thebigdog~ping mindjuju
20:53.40jbotpong mindjuju
20:55.08mindjujui'm back thebigdog
20:55.15thebigdogpm
20:55.27mindjujuutah_dave - not quite so happy?
20:55.38mindjujusunsparc - awesome pic
20:55.52mindjujubwelker - awesome pic
20:55.53SunSparcmindjuju: Thank you! :)
20:56.00SunSparcDisneyland is awesome.
20:56.24wpsfor a toddler
20:56.31mindjujui've been wondering how young is too young for disneyland
20:58.21mgearymindjuju: 2 years old is not too young
20:58.54mindjujuhmmm
20:58.56SunSparcmindjuju: Depends on what you want them to do.
20:59.06SunSparcMy 2 year old had a blast.
20:59.07mindjujuteacup, small stuff
20:59.07bwelkerlike remember it
20:59.30SunSparcNot sure how much they will remember.
20:59.41bwelkernot much, if any
20:59.57bwelkeri went when i was 3 and all i remember is some guy in a boat shooting at a hippo
21:00.09SunSparcWell, it has only be a couple months and he still remembers quite a bit about it.
21:00.20mindjujuwell, Corban is 5
21:00.24SunSparcYeah, you probably lose it over time.
21:00.32mindjujudidn't know if too young
21:00.42mindjujuanybody been to lagoon, is it any good?
21:00.44bwelkerit will be replaced by girls eventually, girls or proper coding practices
21:00.59bwelkerwhich are mutaully exclusive
21:02.00SunSparcbwelker: hehe
21:02.03bwelkerit's def. getting better
21:02.09mindjujuSunSparc - any rides for kids?
21:02.17mindjujulike a bunch or a few?
21:02.19bwelkerthe one that goes straight up is pretty fun
21:02.20SunSparcbwelker: Unless the girl codes, whoa!
21:02.22mindjujuworth taking a 5 year old?
21:02.31SunSparcmindjuju: There is a whole kids area.
21:02.34bwelkerSunSparc: then my brain explodes
21:03.12bwelkergirls don't code, there's no reason to put a computer in the kitchen
21:03.21SunSparcmindjuju: My 5 year old was able to go on some of the big rides, but he was kinda scared on some of them.  Not as kid friendly as Disneyland by far.
21:03.58SunSparcbwelker: hehe, watch out, we have some girls in the channel sometimes.
21:04.07bwelkeryeah   i know
21:04.28mindjujubwelker - there is a #phpwomen channel that thebigdog and timinator and I raided once
21:04.38bwelker"raided"   nice
21:04.43thebigdogit twas fun
21:05.07bwelkernever heard of anybody crashing a virtual party before
21:05.21bwelkerthere are some pretty serious geeks in here
21:07.39timinatorvery fun
21:07.48thebigdogtoo much free time sometimes
21:08.01timinatorthebigdog even hooked up w/ one of them when it was all over
21:08.08timinatoroh, oops..... sorry dude
21:08.11thebigdognp
21:08.17thebigdog~flip timinator
21:08.18jbotACTION gives timinator the .|.. ..|.
21:08.19timinatorwasn't supposed to tell that story
21:08.22timinatorLOL
21:08.28timinator~flip back to thebigdog
21:08.28jbotACTION gives back to thebigdog the .|.. ..|.
21:08.29SunSparcWHAT?!
21:08.39thebigdogyeah this is her - http://www.v-nessa.net/
21:08.45mindjujuepic fail - http://commercial-archive.com/files/translateservererror.jpg
21:09.16SunSparcWow, not really work friendly image
21:09.36SunSparcmindjuju: Nice!
21:10.01bwelkermindjuju: awesome
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21:31.50SunSparcJust to verify, (in MySQL) there is not point in giving M a value in  "INT(M)" unless also specifying zerofill, correct?
21:33.36wpsif $_FILES['tmp_name'] is /tmp/phpBiOF8m
21:33.46wpsdoes that mean that there should be a file named "phpBiOF8m" in /tmp/ ?
21:34.24SunSparcwps: Yes, I am pretty sure that is the case.
21:34.26bwelkeryeah, before you move it
21:34.38wpshmm
21:34.42bwelkerafter you move it with move_uploaded_file, it gets deleted
21:34.42wpsit's not in /tmp/
21:35.00SunSparcYeah, what bwelker said
21:35.01bwelkerit's only in there for a moment, i believe
21:35.09SunSparcYep, hence "tmp"
21:35.15bwelkerprobably only while the script is running
21:35.19SunSparcYep
21:35.20wpsI haven't run move_uploaded_file() yet though
21:35.44bwelkeryou have to move it before the script stops, or it vanishes
21:36.02wpsoh… either you move it and it cleans up… or you don't move it and it cleans up ?
21:36.20bwelkeryeah, but it after you move it, the other copy is permanent
21:36.34wpsk
21:38.36wpsI love it when things break without any reason
21:39.45bwelker@SunSparc: i don't think it matters what you put in for M
21:40.53wpsah-haha
21:41.05wpsit was a permissions problem
21:41.07wps(it's usually that or a missing semicolon)
21:41.21bwelkerspeaking of semi-colons... http://uphpu.pastebin.com/m6fd77f5b
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21:41.27bwelkerany suggestions on this fun one?
21:42.11bwelkerps - it's cake, am is an alias for array_merge
21:45.36bwelkerhttp://uphpu.pastebin.com/m19065810 - better whitespace
21:45.58orsonjwhat's with all the commas on lines 19-21
21:46.06SunSparcbwelker: From what I have read, M only matters when using "zerofill"
21:46.33bwelkerorsonj: nothing, just easier to edit if the commas are already there
21:46.39bwelkerSunSparc: right
21:48.35bwelkerop, nm, i realized what my issue is
21:48.55bwelkerPHP doesn't like you to use functions when setting properties of classes
21:49.03bwelkeri forgot
21:49.05orsonjright, just noticed that
21:49.08SunSparc:)
21:49.12SunSparcI was wondering about that.
21:49.23bwelkerit seems so natural though
21:49.34orsonjlooks just fine until you realize it is a class def.
22:05.02orsonj~rlart
22:05.03jbotputs bwelker through a wood chipper
22:05.19mindjujupoor bwelker
22:05.21bwelkerdang you  arghalaghaaaaaa  blagh
22:05.29bwelkersplat
22:06.36bwelker~lart roses
22:06.36jbotinstalls PocketPC on roses's PDA
22:06.41orsonjthat's how my inlaws got those funky colored roses
22:07.04bwelkerdon't step in the bwelker
22:07.17bwelkerit's gooey and smells abit
22:09.28orsonj~raise bwelker
22:09.29jbotACTION raises bwelker from the dead
22:09.39bwelkerwoah
22:09.46bwelkeri feel funny
22:09.50thebigdog~flip Paldimo
22:09.50jbotACTION gives Paldimo the .|.. ..|.
22:10.01bwelker~Paldimo
22:10.23thebigdogjbot Paldimo is a follower of thebigdog
22:10.24jbotthebigdog: okay
22:10.37bwelkerthat's descriptive
22:11.20macnewbold~bdhit thebigdog
22:11.21jbotACTION leaps to Sunrise Claw of the Cruel Snake on thebigdog
22:11.52mindjuju~poo jsmith as he doesn't get nearly enough rlarts, larts or anything else
22:11.52jbotACTION summons a troop of flying monkeys to fling their poo at jsmith as he doesn't get nearly enough rlarts, larts or anything else
22:11.55thebigdog~melvin macnewbold
22:11.56jbotACTION pulls macnewbold underwear up to the ceiling...and smiles
22:12.17mindjujuand plus, he's not teaching any more
22:12.20Paldimo~flip thebigdog
22:12.20jbotACTION gives thebigdog the .|.. ..|.
22:12.30thebigdog~kick Paldimo
22:12.31jbotACTION kicks Paldimo
22:12.34jsmith~staple mindjuju
22:12.35jbotACTION attaches a staple gun to a pneumatic nail gun via duct tape, staples mindjuju quite well, and hands mindjuju to jsmith
22:12.43mindjuju~jattack jsmith
22:12.44jbotACTION reprograms jsmith phone to be the new AOL support line
22:12.47bwelkerdon't make me sit between you guys
22:12.52thebigdog~slap Paldimo
22:12.53jbotACTION slaps Paldimo, keep your grubby fingers to yourself!
22:12.55mindjujuYeah!
22:12.59bwelker~bwelker everybody
22:12.59jbotACTION asks everybody lots of questions, and completely distracts him from his train of thought
22:13.08mindjujuthose jsmith attacks rock!
22:13.14mindjuju~jattack thebigdog
22:13.14jbotACTION reprograms thebigdog phone to be the new AOL support line
22:13.39bwelker~lart the room
22:13.39jbotslaps the room around with a large trout
22:13.52mindjuju~jattack bwelker
22:13.52jbotACTION reprograms bwelker 's caller ID so that it says Bill Gates
22:14.08bwelkernice, i am now a PC god
22:14.14bwelkeron caller ID onle
22:14.20bwelkers/onle/only/
22:14.27thebigdog~flip timinator
22:14.28jbotACTION gives timinator the .|.. ..|.
22:14.34thebigdogtiminator, did you get that
22:14.38timinatorgot it
22:14.42timinatorloud and clear
22:14.50thebigdogbefore that
22:14.57thebigdogbefore you attention getter
22:15.01timinatorya, got that too.....
22:15.10Paldimo~jattack thebigdog
22:15.11jbotACTION starts to capture thebigdog VOIP packets and post them to the web
22:15.21timinatorI only liked that song for about a week
22:15.21thebigdog~whaleslap Paldimo
22:15.22jbotACTION beats Paldimo upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh
22:15.22timinatorsheesh
22:15.34Paldimoouch...
22:15.45Paldimo~jslap thebigdog
22:15.52PaldimoNOooo!
22:16.01bwelkerfail
22:16.02Paldimo~slap the bigdog
22:16.03jbotACTION slaps the bigdog, keep your grubby fingers to yourself!
22:16.07Paldimobetter....
22:16.14bwelker~bdhit Paldimo
22:16.15jbotACTION slaps the diviner's tin avalanche on Paldimo
22:21.38dataw0lfjeez, bwelker, does your day consist just of emoting stuff on IRC?
22:21.40dataw0lfcrikey.
22:22.35bwelkersure, why not
22:23.00bwelkeraparently you didn't see the epic war that just happened?
22:23.25bwelkerit was like a john woo movie, but with text
22:24.34thebigdog~pwn Paldimo
22:24.35jbotACTION logs into the machine Paldimo is sitting at and pulls a fast one.
22:24.43Paldimo~pwn thebigdog
22:24.43jbotACTION logs into the machine thebigdog is sitting at and pulls a fast one.
22:24.52Paldimo~whelp thebigdog
22:26.27bwelker~dwhit someone which deserves it
22:26.27jbotACTION launches the Knee of the Crippled Roosters and smiles at someone which deserves it's pain
22:26.55thebigdog~slam Paldimo
22:26.56jbotACTION slams Paldimo against a large cement Tux
22:27.16thebigdog~doorslam Paldimo
22:27.17jbotACTION grabs Paldimo by the scruff of the neck and hustles him bodily out the door, "Don't let the door hit you on the butt on the way out!" <SLAM>
22:27.42thebigdog~whaleflurry Paldimo
22:27.43jbotACTION unleashes a flurry of slaps at Paldimo using Gilbert - the ideal whale for the job
22:28.02bwelkerjeez, where is the list you're pulling these from
22:28.04thebigdog~whalebomb Paldimo
22:28.04jbotACTION throws an explosive whale named Gunter at Paldimo and hides.
22:28.13SunSparcbwelker: ask jbot
22:28.28bwelkeri've asked a couple of times, jbot is pretty mum about them
22:28.34thebigdoghaha
22:28.42bwelkerjbot doesn't like me
22:28.57thebigdog~kiss bwelker
22:28.57jbotACTION forces bwelker to give burnin a big kiss on the forhead
22:29.06SunSparc~cookie bwelker
22:29.17SunSparc:(
22:29.19bwelker~bwelker
22:29.19jbotyou are, like, statistically significant, or thinks he's funny, or the best at everything
22:29.35thebigdog~kawfeestrike bwelker
22:29.36jbotAn average sized kawfee descends from the roof, attempts to hit bwelker, but lands in a big pile of medical waste, mostly containing rabies infected needles. After this, the kawfee is eaten by small dogs, who become rabid and seek out to destroy humanity.
22:30.14thebigdog~push Paldimo
22:30.15jbotACTION enlists carmony to push Paldimo over the edge of a very high cliff
22:30.15bwelkerfine, i know when i'm not welcome  :(
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22:30.36Paldimo~eat thebigdog
22:30.37jbotThat's too disgusting.
22:30.41thebigdog~whalepoop Paldimo
22:30.42jbotACTION catapults a truckload of whale poop from a freakishly large killer whale named Hugh at Paldimo
22:30.57Paldimo~poo thebigdog
22:30.57jbotACTION summons a troop of flying monkeys to fling their poo at thebigdog
22:31.15thebigdog~scapegoat Paldimo
22:31.15jbotlooks around when Paldimo tries to make someone else the Scapegoat and points at TheRedBaron
22:32.15thebigdog~ownthecrapoutof Paldimo
22:32.15jbotACTION uses her awesome ricochet maneuvers and frags Paldimo forty-two times in a row.
22:33.11thebigdog~hamstercrap Paldimo
22:33.12jbotACTION beats the living hamstercrap out of Paldimo
22:33.28Paldimodude...... no bueno
22:33.40PoeticIntensitybueno! bueno!
22:33.58thebigdog~poof Paldimo
22:33.59jbotACTION turns around to see Paldimo dissappear into thin air, never to be seen again.
22:34.14Paldimo~bomb thebigdog
22:34.15jbotACTION drops a humongous exploding nuke on thebigdog
22:34.16PoeticIntensity~pick thebigdog
22:34.17jbotACTION carefully extracts the boogers from thebigdog's nose and feeds them to Paldimo
22:34.24Paldimoew....
22:34.41Paldimo~eat thebigdogs boogers
22:34.41jbotACTION slurps up all the thebigdogs boogers available
22:34.42thebigdoghaha
22:36.59thebigdog~spoon Paldimo
22:37.00jbotACTION gouges out Paldimo's eyes with a small plastic spoon
22:37.30wpsI'm glad it was that definition of "spoon" and had nothing to do with cuddling
22:38.03Paldimo~cuddle thebigdog
22:38.03jbotACTION grabs thebigdog and cuddles until thebigdog begs for mercy
22:38.20thebigdog~tunafart Paldimo
22:38.21jbotACTION eats a week-old tuna sandwich with relish and walks over to Paldimo, leg raised, to let 'em rip.
22:38.44thebigdog~lisp wps
22:38.44jbot(((((wps)))))
22:38.48wps?
22:38.50thebigdoghaha
22:39.01SunSparchehe
22:39.11thebigdog~special visit wps
22:39.12jbotACTION rapes wps
22:39.16thebigdoghaha
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22:41.14mgearygroan
22:41.28thebigdogmgeary, kk
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22:44.02thebigdogwps what does your value point too?
22:45.29wpsexample1.dev.example2.com
22:46.41thebigdogthat shoudl be an a record
22:46.43thebigdogis it?
22:47.00wpsis "example1.dev.example2.com" an A record?
22:47.24wpsyes (basically)
22:47.29wpsoh… wait
22:47.30wpsno
22:47.45wps*.dev.anavidesign.com is CNAME to
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22:47.52wpsanavidesign.com which is an A
22:51.34thebigdogthat should work for you
22:51.39thebigdoghas it been updated
22:52.22thebigdogwhy add example1.dev that alrady has a record
22:52.49wpswhat?
22:53.41thebigdogok let me see if i have this straight
22:54.12wpshmmm… 
22:54.14wpsI think it is working
22:54.17wpsit's getting to the server
22:54.20thebigdoghaha
22:54.29wpsit's just not translating the URL
22:54.51wpsnot that it should have been
22:54.58wpsI was just thinking it would for some reason
22:55.01wpsnever mind
22:58.02wpst minus 60 minutes until barbecue
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23:09.09SunSparcAny MySQL index gurus here?
23:09.18thebigdogno
23:09.30SunSparchehe
23:09.30thebigdogonly pgsql gurus in the house
23:09.37thebigdogwhatz up
23:09.44thebigdogill try and help
23:10.02SunSparcWhy would CREATE INDEX `events_date_1` ON `events` (`date(null)`); Cause this error: ERROR 1072 (42000) at line 318: Key column 'date(null)' doesn't exist in table
23:10.18SunSparcIf I take out the "(null)" importing the sql works.
23:10.54SunSparcThe "(null)" was put there by a SQL editor I am testing out.
23:11.14SunSparcNot sure if "(null)" is standard usage or if perhaps the app I am using has a bug.
23:12.48thebigdogwhy put a null there
23:13.01SunSparcThat is my question
23:14.13thebigdogoh i think the null is to specify the portion of the element
23:14.16timinatorgotta run guys..... late
23:14.38thebigdogthe length of the element
23:14.50thebigdogand you probably cant do a index length on a date type
23:14.53SunSparcYeah, but null is apparently not valid I guess.
23:14.54thebigdogit is all or nothing
23:15.13SunSparcWell, all the columns with null give the same error.
23:15.14thebigdogyeah either () or (value)
23:15.25SunSparcYeah, that is what I was thinking.
23:15.35SunSparcI just sent an email to the app developer.
23:15.51SunSparcI think it's a bug.
23:17.07thebigdogdo you have a unique constraint on the element?
23:18.06SunSparcNo
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23:42.54thebigdog~karma thebigdog
23:42.54jbotthebigdog has karma of 7
23:43.02thebigdog~karma mge
23:43.02jbotmge has neutral karma
23:43.07thebigdog~karma mgeary
23:43.07jbotmgeary has karma of 7
23:49.09SunSparc~karma SunSparc
23:49.09jbotsunsparc has karma of 8
23:49.15SunSparcwoot!
23:51.22oldsummm
23:51.30oldshttp://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/storage-engines.html
23:51.38oldsThe BLACKHOLE storage engine accepts but does not store data and retrievals always return an empty set.
23:52.17oldsI fail to see its utility
23:53.17oldshttp://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/blackhole-storage-engine.html

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